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ban nuclear power for bombs and you got a deal.....
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YOu have the right to bear arms. It is not specific as to which arms you have the right to. I think you shoul have the right to have the guns that excited when the amendment was written. :3
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another sheep chimes in

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America is an advert for just how wrong things can go .. when people put there own pleasure for shooting ahead of the lifes of innocent Children
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Do you really think they give a shit about a petition? Seriously? This has been in the works for a long time. You'd be better off preparing for what's coming. And it wont be pretty.
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If you need that many rounds from a high powered gun, maybe you should rethink hunting as a hobby? A good hunter needs 1 possibly 2 shots to take down a deer or other animal.
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The 2nd Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting.

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Exactly correct. Its about guarding against tyrany.
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are you a US citizen? if you are, you need to learn your history. The second amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. Its to prevent an oppressive government from putting tyranny against its populations. Look libtard, no matter how many the laws (which criminals dont follow), if someone has a motive.....they will get it done regardless how. If he didnt get it from his mom, he would have gotten it somewhere else. people need to realize it is not just a gun issue. Its a cultural issue. All mass shooters are "crazy" and on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. And im sure the last shooter was too but they deny it. You know all the medical commercials that say you may feel like you want to commit suicide? well that goes for homicide too. We need to look at big pharma too. But all major media outlets are endorsed by them so they wont bring up the issue.Another problem is the media putting more fear into people watching the news. Misinforming them on what type of guns do what. There are people who didnt even think it was legal to own a gun. Wrongful education is part of the issue. When Obama says "i believe in the 2nd amendment, i think all hunters should have gun rights"....being a constitutional scholar, he should know that is NOT about hunting, target shooting or tradition. We are a free country found on guns, and were given the Bill of rights to make sure we stay free. Founding fathers knew society and technology would change, they know that banks and oppressive governments want disarmed populations so they can control them. Why do you think this is the most free nation in the world? Why do think people come here? Because 200+ years ago, we had a revolution against a tyrannical government. We inherited the right to own guns not to just to hunt but to protect yourself as an individual, your family and your country from repeating history.... If people would just re-watch the movie "The Patriot", and see why we have what we have and the scarifies made to give you a free country and see if history repeats itself,


Handguns do a great job of providing us with protection from criminals. Assault weapons, on the other hand, are made for one thing and one thing only... killing other people.

The second amendment was written at a time of great turmoil and tumult at an early point in our history, but we are past the point where we need to rise up against our government. It is very unlikely that, in our lifetimes, we will see another need for a revolution in America. And, if that point does come, Americans will find a way to acquire the necessary to tools to bring about the revolution irregardless of the laws in place.

We must face reality and put our right to safety over our "right" to bear arms.pigchef
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are you a US citizen? if you are, you need to learn your history. The second amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. Its to prevent an oppressive government from putting tyranny against its populations. Look libtard, no matter how many the laws (which criminals dont follow), if someone has a motive.....they will get it done regardless how. If he didnt get it from his mom, he would have gotten it somewhere else. people need to realize it is not just a gun issue. Its a cultural issue. All mass shooters are "crazy" and on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. And im sure the last shooter was too but they deny it. You know all the medical commercials that say you may feel like you want to commit suicide? well that goes for homicide too. We need to look at big pharma too. But all major media outlets are endorsed by them so they wont bring up the issue.Another problem is the media putting more fear into people watching the news. Misinforming them on what type of guns do what. There are people who didnt even think it was legal to own a gun. Wrongful education is part of the issue. When Obama says "i believe in the 2nd amendment, i think all hunters should have gun rights"....being a constitutional scholar, he should know that is NOT about hunting, target shooting or tradition. We are a free country found on guns, and were given the Bill of rights to make sure we stay free. Founding fathers knew society and technology would change, they know that banks and oppressive governments want disarmed populations so they can control them. Why do you think this is the most free nation in the world? Why do think people come here? Because 200+ years ago, we had a revolution against a tyrannical government. We inherited the right to own guns not to just to hunt but to protect yourself as an individual, your family and your country from repeating history.... If people would just re-watch the movie "The Patriot", and see why we have what we have and the scarifies made to give you a free country and see if history repeats itself,


Handguns do a great job of providing us with protection from criminals. Assault weapons, on the other hand, are made for one thing and one thing only... killing other people.

The second amendment was written at a time of great turmoil and tumult at an early point in our history, but we are past the point where we need to rise up against our government. It is very unlikely that, in our lifetimes, we will see another need for a revolution in America. And, if that point does come, Americans will find a way to acquire the necessary to tools to bring about the revolution irregardless of the laws in place.

We must face reality and put our right to safety over our "right" to bear arms.pigchef
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YOu have the right to bear arms. It is not specific as to which arms you have the right to. I think you shoul have the right to have the guns that excited when the amendment was written. :3
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Don't know who said this but it seem appropriate

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I AINT SIGNING NO STINKING PETITION, it’s just a plot to harvest your IP and send a SWAT Team to your door when or before the shit hits the fan.

Better to keep your ammo high and dry and lay low so you’ll be around to help strike the final blow. Liberty was brought to you by like minded patriots and the barrels of their guns.

When the time comes Liberty will be upheld by like minded patriots and the barrels of their guns. The mere fact that they are trying to wrest owners from their firearms is a sure sign they want to clamp down even harder on your liberties then they are now doing.

You Gandhi types, don’t expect us to bust you out of your FEMA camp anytime soon, you’ll just get in the way.

The Tree of Liberty must be watered from time to time with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants alike, in the process those willing give up their Liberties (whether they take advantage of them or not) for some fake sense of security should be weeded out like the 2nd class citizens they are.

You 2nd class(ers) think I got an attitude, wait till you get a load of what your security providers have in store for your defenseless fat ass. They can probably get two lampshades out of it.
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It should be reasonable to consider limit on assault rifles. Just as anti-gun folks to accept handguns, rifles and shotties for personal protection.
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It should be reasonable to consider limit on assault rifles. Just as anti-gun folks to accept handguns, rifles and shotties for personal protection.
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No.
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America is an advert for just how wrong things can go .. when people put there own pleasure for shooting ahead of the lifes of innocent Children
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I was about to sign it, then noticed that the official petition spells the word assault incorrectly, and got embarrassed.

Fix it and I'll sign.

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Stop any legislation that will ban "assualt weapons", semi-automatic rifles or handguns and high capacity magazines.
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It should be reasonable to consider limit on assault rifles. Just as anti-gun folks to accept handguns, rifles and shotties for personal protection.
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No.
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That is the issue. No reasoning. We have to be able to consider both sides on this. If we don't, then we are just bullying one side or the other.

Will banning assault rifles stop school shootings? Absolutely not.

Will the pro-gun side accepting the ban help slow the anti-gun push? Absolutely.
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It should be reasonable to consider limit on assault rifles. Just as anti-gun folks to accept handguns, rifles and shotties for personal protection.
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No.
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That is the issue. No reasoning. We have to be able to consider both sides on this. If we don't, then we are just bullying one side or the other.

Will banning assault rifles stop school shootings? Absolutely not.

Will the pro-gun side accepting the ban help slow the anti-gun push? Absolutely.
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There is no reasoning or dialogue with them. It only works one way, we cave. Every time. Until they get what they want-complete disarmament, except for them of course.

This isn't about me or any single individual. It's about America and future generations.
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Petition my ass. Make movement to get my Arms. My rights are just that...My Rights, and a Constitution on paper or parchment guaranteeing me anything is jack-shit. I guarantee my rights. Nuff said.........These little buutcracks mean nothing to me, Pack a lunch.
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Petition my ass. Make movement to get my Arms. My rights are just that...My Rights, and a Constitution on paper or parchment guaranteeing me anything is jack-shit. I guarantee my rights. Nuff said.........These little buutcracks mean nothing to me, Pack a lunch.
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Petition..........Huh.......you folks are strange and VERY Ignorant at best, stupid at the far end of the spectrum of understanding. I'm not going to petition those jack wagons for what is ALREADY Mine. You slaves need to read more and watch TV Sport's less.
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It should be reasonable to consider limit on assault rifles. Just as anti-gun folks to accept handguns, rifles and shotties for personal protection.
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No.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


That is the issue. No reasoning. We have to be able to consider both sides on this. If we don't, then we are just bullying one side or the other.

Will banning assault rifles stop school shootings? Absolutely not.

Will the pro-gun side accepting the ban help slow the anti-gun push? Absolutely.
 Quoting: luridanimus



There is no reasoning or dialogue with them. It only works one way, we cave. Every time. Until they get what they want-complete disarmament, except for them of course.

This isn't about me or any single individual. It's about America and future generations.
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I disagree. I think you are accepting, and possible promoting division. Like you said, it is not about you or a single individual, but a UNITED States of America. We should promote unity. We seem so focused on our issues (guns, abortions, justic, drugs, terrorism, etc.) that we don't see how it divides us. The US is supposed to be a united peoples governed by a small government. We can't get back to a small government until we are united. We won't unite until we can be reasonable and compromise.
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Petition my ass. Make movement to get my Arms. My rights are just that...My Rights, and a Constitution on paper or parchment guaranteeing me anything is jack-shit. I guarantee my rights. Nuff said.........These little buutcracks mean nothing to me, Pack a lunch.
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Petition..........Huh.......you folks are strange and VERY Ignorant at best, stupid at the far end of the spectrum of understanding. I'm not going to petition those jack wagons for what is ALREADY Mine. You slaves need to read more and watch TV Sport's less.
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You perspective is not of a governed individual. You don't seem to desire a government at all. Perhaps the US is not a place you should dwell. Most countries and their peoples hold on to the concept of government in charge of law, order, justice, etc. Wrong or right, that is the history of humanity. We tend not to be anarchist, and certainly not isolationist. You are speaking as an extreme minority and living as a taboo.
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No.
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That is the issue. No reasoning. We have to be able to consider both sides on this. If we don't, then we are just bullying one side or the other.

Will banning assault rifles stop school shootings? Absolutely not.

Will the pro-gun side accepting the ban help slow the anti-gun push? Absolutely.
 Quoting: luridanimus



There is no reasoning or dialogue with them. It only works one way, we cave. Every time. Until they get what they want-complete disarmament, except for them of course.

This isn't about me or any single individual. It's about America and future generations.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


I disagree. I think you are accepting, and possible promoting division. Like you said, it is not about you or a single individual, but a UNITED States of America. We should promote unity. We seem so focused on our issues (guns, abortions, justic, drugs, terrorism, etc.) that we don't see how it divides us. The US is supposed to be a united peoples governed by a small government. We can't get back to a small government until we are united. We won't unite until we can be reasonable and compromise.
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rofl
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That is the issue. No reasoning. We have to be able to consider both sides on this. If we don't, then we are just bullying one side or the other.

Will banning assault rifles stop school shootings? Absolutely not.

Will the pro-gun side accepting the ban help slow the anti-gun push? Absolutely.
 Quoting: luridanimus



There is no reasoning or dialogue with them. It only works one way, we cave. Every time. Until they get what they want-complete disarmament, except for them of course.

This isn't about me or any single individual. It's about America and future generations.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


I disagree. I think you are accepting, and possible promoting division. Like you said, it is not about you or a single individual, but a UNITED States of America. We should promote unity. We seem so focused on our issues (guns, abortions, justic, drugs, terrorism, etc.) that we don't see how it divides us. The US is supposed to be a united peoples governed by a small government. We can't get back to a small government until we are united. We won't unite until we can be reasonable and compromise.
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rofl
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Divisive.....great.
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No.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


That is the issue. No reasoning. We have to be able to consider both sides on this. If we don't, then we are just bullying one side or the other.

Will banning assault rifles stop school shootings? Absolutely not.

Will the pro-gun side accepting the ban help slow the anti-gun push? Absolutely.
 Quoting: luridanimus



There is no reasoning or dialogue with them. It only works one way, we cave. Every time. Until they get what they want-complete disarmament, except for them of course.

This isn't about me or any single individual. It's about America and future generations.
 Quoting: s. d. butler


I disagree. I think you are accepting, and possible promoting division. Like you said, it is not about you or a single individual, but a UNITED States of America. We should promote unity. We seem so focused on our issues (guns, abortions, justic, drugs, terrorism, etc.) that we don't see how it divides us. The US is supposed to be a united peoples governed by a small government. We can't get back to a small government until we are united. We won't unite until we can be reasonable and compromise.
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Re-quoted for truth!ouncsam
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Signed.

People don't understand that banning assault rifles isn't the answer, it's the beginning of the end. Give then an inch and they will take it all. Just read the Patriot Act if you doubt me.
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it has worked everywhere else on the planet.


only in america do these massacres occur on a regular and growing basis.


the patriot act was to counter 'terrorism' and americans with guns restricted everywhere

else in the world kill multiple times the amount of americans terrorists will ever be capable of.


islamic extremists think the second ammendment is their best friend.
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I'm going to say this once. Port Arthur.

Before you start telling me my history, read your own. People kill people. Guns are a tool, and I'm going to defend my fellow American's right to keep and bear arms, to have well armed state militias in order to protect American's from tyrannical government. That is the purpose of our right to bear arms.

These killings happen all over the world. Just read the front page of any big city newspaper any where in the world and then tell me the problem is only in America. Someone WANTS you to think that the problem is only here so you aren't paying attention to something else. So unless you live here and are part of the culture, don't tell me about my laws. Thanks.
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the tyrany is explicit in the statement. in the middle east they would go for a break at lunch time and cover their goods in the market with just a cloth.... if someone tried to steal anything their hand would be chopped off.... it worked swell.... if you don't want a gun don't by one... but you do have the right to one if you want it.... tyranical government... it seems you might very rightly have one if they are telling you to get rid of your rights... that was the whole purpose.....
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Keep up the good work people.

For those of you that have Facebook accounts, post this link, let people know about this petition.
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Do you really think they give a shit about a petition? Seriously? This has been in the works for a long time. You'd be better off preparing for what's coming. And it wont be pretty.
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What better do you have to do with your time?

Only takes a few minutes to spread the word and sign the petition.

And besides, when the Goverment does nothing to honor the names who have signed these petitions, guess what?
It will be just another example to prove that our votes and voices mean nothing!

So, either way, WE are accomplishing something.
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If you need that many rounds from a high powered gun, maybe you should rethink hunting as a hobby? A good hunter needs 1 possibly 2 shots to take down a deer or other animal.
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are you a US citizen? if you are, you need to learn your history. The second amendment has NOTHING to do with hunting. Its to prevent an oppressive government from putting tyranny against its populations. Look libtard, no matter how many the laws (which criminals dont follow), if someone has a motive.....they will get it done regardless how. If he didnt get it from his mom, he would have gotten it somewhere else. people need to realize it is not just a gun issue. Its a cultural issue. All mass shooters are "crazy" and on anti-depressants and anti-psychotics. And im sure the last shooter was too but they deny it. You know all the medical commercials that say you may feel like you want to commit suicide? well that goes for homicide too. We need to look at big pharma too. But all major media outlets are endorsed by them so they wont bring up the issue.Another problem is the media putting more fear into people watching the news. Misinforming them on what type of guns do what. There are people who didnt even think it was legal to own a gun. Wrongful education is part of the issue. When Obama says "i believe in the 2nd amendment, i think all hunters should have gun rights"....being a constitutional scholar, he should know that is NOT about hunting, target shooting or tradition. We are a free country found on guns, and were given the Bill of rights to make sure we stay free. Founding fathers knew society and technology would change, they know that banks and oppressive governments want disarmed populations so they can control them. Why do you think this is the most free nation in the world? Why do think people come here? Because 200+ years ago, we had a revolution against a tyrannical government. We inherited the right to own guns not to just to hunt but to protect yourself as an individual, your family and your country from repeating history. Most gun owners know this as well. They claim there are 11,000 deaths a year from guns. 90% of that were deaths from gang/police violence. Gang members dont follow laws either. And the logic to take away your protection from "gang' members or other violent criminals is just ridiculous. Either way, I think the issues of guns is just the government using tragedies to further their political agenda. People think that "military style" assault weapons are bad. NO citizen is allowed to own a fully automatic machine gun without extensive permits and need a class A dealer licenses which is next to impossible to get. These "styles" that look evil, function the same the ones that look like less military like. Its just what they perceive it to be. When they say "we want to ban all semi--automatic weapons", thats 90% of all guns. I think there needs to be regulation on violent movies, games, and in society while still having the ability to stay a free nation without taking our rights away. This is a "collectivist" model the government is going by....one person does wrong, so everyone else is punished. That is a military mentality and very dangerous. If people would just re-watch the movie "The Patriot", and see why we have what we have and the scarifies made to give you a free country and see if history repeats itself,
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OP you couldn't have put any better than that,if nimrod can't understand it then let him give his gun and follow them. I'll keep my guns





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