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2013 Polar Vortex Collapsing; Complete Disintegration Possible!!! US, North Europe, Midle East Hit!!!

 
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Polar Vortex Collapse, Arctic Freeze Imminent
By Andrew at 9:24 AM The model forecasts above both show big high pressure centers interrupting the polar vortex and splitting it into two pieces. Such a split exemplifies the traditional weakening of the polar vortex. When that polar vortex is weakened, the cold air locked up in said polar vortex flows south, possibly into North America, maybe into the US. This is a very good sign coming from the models at this point in time to go along with the stratospheric observations.

Continuing with watching the models, we turn to a charted forecast of the ECMWF model. I want you to look at the bottom image, called the EP Flux. In short, the EP flux shows the direction and strength (shown by length of arrow) that air moves into the stratosphere. In events where warm air enters the stratosphere, long, extended arrows are commonly seen. The forecast into the days before New Year's Day show a batch of extended arrow motions, suggesting a large motion of warming may be incoming into the stratosphere. This enhanced EP Flux would theoretically enhance warming potentials in the Arctic, thus further weakening the Polar Vortex. I find it likely that the aforementioned 50mb wave over East Asia would be to blame for this rise in EP Flux values.... [link to theweathercentre.blogspot.de]
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What horse shit this thread is. Not only is it horse shit, the PV splits all the time in winter and moves over, for example in Europe there is currently a split PV, one where it should be and another over Russia. To add more horse shit to this horse shit thread, the UK is showing signs of a classic Bartlett setup which = sunny, dry weather with temperatures well above average for this time of year, a full blown westerly flow, much needed dryness for the UK too. So take your horse shit thread and feed it another chimp.
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I got studded snow tires on my truck. Bring it.
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Originally Posted by Luisport

Hi everyone, this is my first post here! A portuguese forecaster say that we will see a polar vortex collapse in the first 10 days of January. What do you think about this? I don't understand nothing of it yet, so what could happen if this massive event take place? Thank you everyone for all this information posted here!
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Depends on where it collapsed.
Down into Canada or even Russia wouldn't be much use here.
In 2010 it broke and fell down into the north sea and the rest as they say is history.
That usually replaces behind with high pressure that if as can happen (and did in Nov Dec 2010) it links mid Atlantic with another high..then your winds turn north and north east advecting very icy air to us.

Thats as layman as I can describe.

That said,Portuguese man has no way of knowing what's to happen in chaos theory, so if right he's a lucky guesser.

In this thread,we're discussing a possible warming of the upper atmosphere in polar regions that could cause another 2010 as described.
Could but so many variables,we just don't know.
These things have a nasty habit of bringing snow to Athens rather than Dublin mostly.

Hope that helps
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i think we were lucky with the 2010 event, because it happened in November, in the last month of autumn, when we still has some warmth of autumn to offset the very cold air that dropped right over us. it was still VERY cold, but not as bad as if it had happened in January, as this one might

we'll see. it's based on models, and weather models are not reliable. 'fantasy island' I think the long range ones are known as. notice the poster above said it's 'not much use' to the uk if it dropped into russia or canada? Some of these fools actually want something like this to happen.
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watch the video , free now

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What horse shit this thread is. Not only is it horse shit, the PV splits all the time in winter and moves over, for example in Europe there is currently a split PV, one where it should be and another over Russia. To add more horse shit to this horse shit thread, the UK is showing signs of a classic Bartlett setup which = sunny, dry weather with temperatures well above average for this time of year, a full blown westerly flow, much needed dryness for the UK too. So take your horse shit thread and feed it another chimp.
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don't know where your living in the uk, but most places are being saturated with rain
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Ozone levels
Interesting indeed. Just as a side subject, I noticed a very suspicious increase in the ozone levels along the North-West coast of the US/Vancouver area in Canada. We talk about a sudden increase of 30 to 40% of the ozone levels, this is something very localised and now it is moving along the Canada-US border. I do not understand what could create such increase in ozone, and why so concentrated. Now I guess it is somehow connected with the OP!

[link to exp-studies.tor.ec.gc.ca]

Sorry not sure where to get an archive for the previous days, I have it on my local drive but do not know if I can upload it here..
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What if the underground bunkers in Denver are really for an ice age?

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Good point.........
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i dont like how 44º C / 110 Fº feels like
i need to get out of this fucking city
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I think it would be hard (difficult/cold/etc) virtually anywhere......in cities, maybe more services or help available than in country areas.....however - other resources available in rural areas, such as trees to cut and burn for heat if electric goes out, wild game to eat if supplies lines shut down.
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Not sure if related, but California is now getting wave after wave of major rain. Not quite as bad as the Nov storm, but if persistent is going to cause flooding.

X-mass pineapples delivery...
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Ozone levels
Interesting indeed. Just as a side subject, I noticed a very suspicious increase in the ozone levels along the North-West coast of the US/Vancouver area in Canada. We talk about a sudden increase of 30 to 40% of the ozone levels, this is something very localised and now it is moving along the Canada-US border. I do not understand what could create such increase in ozone, and why so concentrated. Now I guess it is somehow connected with the OP!

[link to exp-studies.tor.ec.gc.ca]

Sorry not sure where to get an archive for the previous days, I have it on my local drive but do not know if I can upload it here..
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You should start a seperate thread about this subject and what you have and put up any links. The Ozone is rarely discussed around here and has an important part to play in all of this. There are so many anomolies right now its good to SEE them all and connect some dots. Please if you would not mind starting the thread. It could pull in some others that are into it and can add other info as it goes along. Just a thought and thanks for throwing that into this.
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does this include europe too my portugese friend?
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yes for shure! If a total collapse happen i think we can see negative temp in the north africa
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Growing instabilty in any system is marked by massive swings before a new trend zone is established. This could occur in our lifetimes or go on for centuries, even thousands of years.
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No winter last year,i say bring it !
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I'm with you! So hungry for snow and cold here -
bring on the freeze pleeze!!
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Dam fools!
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Moon rings : [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Caused by reflection on ice particles in the upper atmosphere, and generally moon rings are said to warn of approaching storms.

UK, USA, Portugal... And others coutry I forgot are seeing this phenomen since 2 or 3 nights.

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3 days ago in my city it was -25C
now its +3C
can someone explain ?
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3 days ago in my city it was -25C
now its +3C
can someone explain ?
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yes, the polar vortex usualy is circular in shape, but now is a big oval, that's why north and central Asia have so cold temp. in this moment. So polar vortex with this movement is weakening very quikly, going to asia area and retiring from other places like your location
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Weather goes haywire over Europe: scientists baffled by erratic swings of jet stream

Posted on December 25, 2012by The Extinction Protocol
December 25, 2012 – CLIMATE – From deadly cold in Russia, floods in Britain and balmy conditions that have residents in southwest France rummaging for their bathing suits, the weather has gone haywire across Europe in the days leading up to Christmas. The mercury in Moscow has fallen to minus 25 degrees Celsius (minus 13 degrees Fahrenheit) — unseasonably cold in a country where such chills don’t normally arrive until January or February. The cold has claimed 90 lives in Russia since mid-December and 83 in Ukraine, with eastern Eurasia in the grips of an unusually icy month that has seen temperatures drop to as low as minus 50 degrees C in eastern Siberia. Another 57 people have died from the cold in Poland this month, and officials say the icy front is probably “the most severe of the last 70 years,” according to Regis Crepet, a forecaster with Meteo-Consult. While the former Eastern bloc shivers and Britain fights severe flooding after heavy rains, holiday-makers and residents in the south of France and in Italy have dug out their shorts and swimwear to welcome an unexpected blast of beach weather. Temperatures on Sunday climbed to 24.3 degrees C in Biarritz on the Atlantic coast, nearly 12 degrees hotter than the seasonal average, and nudging the 1983 record of 24.4 degrees C. “These are remarkable temperatures that we do not see every year,” French weather forecaster Patrick Galois said. In Catania on Italy’s Sicily coast, beach temperatures on Christmas day are forecast to climb as high as 22 degrees C in some places, while in Austria, the small village of Brand at an altitude of more than 1,000 meters (3,200 feet), noted a December 24 record of 17.7 degrees C. Jim Palmer, professor of climate physics at Oxford University, told AFP the weather extremes are explained by the northern hemisphere “jet stream,” a ribbon of air that speeds around the planet high up in the atmosphere. The stream is akin to a length of rope “that you wiggle a bit,” said Palmer — its undulations differing from year to year. This winter the jet stream is particularly wavy, pulling cold air in over Russia from the far north, and bringing hotter air up from the south over France and its neighbors. “The question: Is the waviness and the unusual configuration of the jet stream the result of climate change? We don’t know. The models are probably not quite good enough to tell us,” said Palmer, though there was “some evidence” this may be the case. -TD [link to theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com]
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What do you think about this my friend?
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I think we are fucked.

New Doom 100% Sure. Ice Age!

Get your diapers ready.
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Full blown Arctic storm outside right now. I'm not going out there! God Jul!!!
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I think we are fucked.

New Doom 100% Sure. Ice Age!

Get your diapers ready.
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Brace yourselves winter is coming

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Interesting
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Imagine if the ice age went down and everyone ran to the equator. Just as the last of the survivors show up the poles then proceed to shift.

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