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Dapurps User ID: 30803443 Canada 12/29/2012 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dapurps You just went full retard. In order to save money from that you have to detox you dumb fuck Stop. If you have enough money to drink 18 beers per night for 5 years, and use heroin.. you have enough money for anything... who do you think you're talking to here? i'm not a liar like you.. 18 beers cost 25$ for me. Heroin cost me 100$. I make 160$ a day. after cigarettes that's 25$ left over. 25$ wont get me 30,000$ to get to a proper rehab. that's cause you need to stop buying the drugs and alcohol dipshit. you can't have both. moron. make a choice. In order to stop buying them you gotta detox. For fuck sakes man i swear you have less brain cells then me. "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." :ftwpanda: dapurps |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24470710 United States 12/29/2012 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 03:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A liar? In what regard? I believe he has spoken truth of his experience. Name calling kills discourse and make the callee look weak with those with eyes that know. Proper argument does not call for such. :) he makes over 4k a month. and he tells me he can't afford rehab. that's why I called him a liar. the problem is his choices, not his addiction. he's a liar and he won't accept that because he lies to himself on a daily basis. just because he is honest about his lying to himself, it does not make him an honest person. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264 Stop. If you have enough money to drink 18 beers per night for 5 years, and use heroin.. you have enough money for anything... who do you think you're talking to here? i'm not a liar like you.. 18 beers cost 25$ for me. Heroin cost me 100$. I make 160$ a day. after cigarettes that's 25$ left over. 25$ wont get me 30,000$ to get to a proper rehab. that's cause you need to stop buying the drugs and alcohol dipshit. you can't have both. moron. make a choice. In order to stop buying them you gotta detox. For fuck sakes man i swear you have less brain cells then me. you make a choice. you can walk into a rehab right now. and say.. I make over 4k a month. I'm here to get clean. and you would get clean. but you're a liar and you refuse to make that choice because you're a liar. |
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pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. |
Dapurps User ID: 30803443 Canada 12/29/2012 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dapurps 18 beers cost 25$ for me. Heroin cost me 100$. I make 160$ a day. after cigarettes that's 25$ left over. 25$ wont get me 30,000$ to get to a proper rehab. that's cause you need to stop buying the drugs and alcohol dipshit. you can't have both. moron. make a choice. In order to stop buying them you gotta detox. For fuck sakes man i swear you have less brain cells then me. you make a choice. you can walk into a rehab right now. and say.. I make over 4k a month. I'm here to get clean. and you would get clean. but you're a liar and you refuse to make that choice because you're a liar. Guessing you've never been close to an addict before. Thank god for that. Learn how to deal with people in a humane way instead of talking like you're better then someone because that my friend will get you nowhere but lonely. Last Edited by Dapurps on 12/29/2012 03:58 AM "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." :ftwpanda: dapurps |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. lol. this is hilarious! they show increased performance because they can actually get up and function after ingesting the drug they grew dependent on.. since their body now needs the drug to function... god you are so daft its infuriating! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24470710 United States 12/29/2012 03:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. can you link me to those studies? it's all in the mind dude |
pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. lol. this is hilarious! they show increased performance because they can actually get up and function after ingesting the drug they grew dependent on.. since their body now needs the drug to function... god you are so daft its infuriating! So... heroin has tolerance, right? Simple question. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264 that's cause you need to stop buying the drugs and alcohol dipshit. you can't have both. moron. make a choice. In order to stop buying them you gotta detox. For fuck sakes man i swear you have less brain cells then me. you make a choice. you can walk into a rehab right now. and say.. I make over 4k a month. I'm here to get clean. and you would get clean. but you're a liar and you refuse to make that choice because you're a liar. Guessing you've never been close to an addict before. Thank god for that. Learn how to deal with people in a humane way instead of talking like you're better then someone because that my friend will get you nowhere but lonely. ^Nice way to feel sorry for yourself and change the topic liar. Back to your old tricks eh? Oh boo hoo I'm an addict, oh boo hoo.. I can't go to rehab because I can't afford it. Meanwhile. IN REALITY. You are lying. Drawing pity, and funding your own demise when you have enough money to go to rehab right now. L_I_A_R go ahead and boo hoo some more about how sad your life is... |
404error User ID: 1395091 Australia 12/29/2012 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. lol. this is hilarious! they show increased performance because they can actually get up and function after ingesting the drug they grew dependent on.. since their body now needs the drug to function... god you are so daft its infuriating! Hey cunt, don't ignore me. I'd like you to know how it feels to be continually belittled for no logical reason at all. |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 12/29/2012 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A liar? In what regard? I believe he has spoken truth of his experience. Name calling kills discourse and make the callee look weak with those with eyes that know. Proper argument does not call for such. :) he makes over 4k a month. and he tells me he can't afford rehab. that's why I called him a liar. the problem is his choices, not his addiction. he's a liar and he won't accept that because he lies to himself on a daily basis. just because he is honest about his lying to himself, it does not make him an honest person. Rehab is much more expensive than that, I have been told. I had a friend just this last Summer who nearly overdosed on a cocktail of pills she was taking, unbeknownst to everyone. When she decided to detox after almost dying, the 'center' for her withdrawal required something like a $13,000 down payment. Just to get IN the doors. Now how is that fair? Perhaps that is where the REAL problem lays. I think yes. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. can you link me to those studies? it's all in the mind dude [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov] That one doesn't do it, let me know. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 04:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | legalization would require the reversal of a powerful machine. the whole thing is not useful for humanity. it's fun but it's all for money. now, you could learn how to do something helpful or volunteer with the time spent on drugs. people choose to buy into modern medicine or not. i think that people should know their true nature and by insisting on some pathology of addiction one's true power is not made readily available to them... the easy way out if you will. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. lol. this is hilarious! they show increased performance because they can actually get up and function after ingesting the drug they grew dependent on.. since their body now needs the drug to function... god you are so daft its infuriating! So... heroin has tolerance, right? Simple question. wat? heroine has tolerance? the human body has tolerance.. ugh.. the drug is the drug.. wtf are you on now??? look how poor your education is... you think the drug itself has tolerance.. you can't even tell the difference between the human and the drug.. that is how much your brain has rot. |
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jadksn User ID: 31069334 United States 12/29/2012 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't know how I feel about this. Quoting: jadksn 31069334 The Libertarian in me says that I should be allowed to ingest whatever I want, from Rat Poison to the hardest of drugs. But needles and amphetamines are always a bad idea. I live in a part of the country where there's a meth house in every neighborhood, and let me tell you... Amphetamine psychosis is a scary thing. Yeah so take it out of the hands of criminals. They can't compete in an open market. I'm not so sure I'd trust our government to manufacture heroin either, with their conflict poppies bought from Afghanistan.. I've seen the evil face of Amphetamines too many times... You see a man with a home and a career turned into the empty shell of a man in the matter of months. I've never known anyone who just casually used Crystal Meth, it was a NEED to use. They'd do things they otherwise wouldn't do to get another fix. I could get behind a full legalization of Hallucinogens and Marijuana, but Meth is where I draw my line in the sand. |
Dapurps User ID: 30803443 Canada 12/29/2012 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dapurps In order to stop buying them you gotta detox. For fuck sakes man i swear you have less brain cells then me. you make a choice. you can walk into a rehab right now. and say.. I make over 4k a month. I'm here to get clean. and you would get clean. but you're a liar and you refuse to make that choice because you're a liar. Guessing you've never been close to an addict before. Thank god for that. Learn how to deal with people in a humane way instead of talking like you're better then someone because that my friend will get you nowhere but lonely. ^Nice way to feel sorry for yourself and change the topic liar. Back to your old tricks eh? Oh boo hoo I'm an addict, oh boo hoo.. I can't go to rehab because I can't afford it. Meanwhile. IN REALITY. You are lying. Drawing pity, and funding your own demise when you have enough money to go to rehab right now. L_I_A_R go ahead and boo hoo some more about how sad your life is... I'm actually having a great time right now knowing i still have a heart left unlike you Enjoy picking on addicts and one of these days you're gonna be loosing a couple teeth. Trust me kid living a self righteous life is no way to live. "What you perceive to be becomes your reality." :ftwpanda: dapurps |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A liar? In what regard? I believe he has spoken truth of his experience. Name calling kills discourse and make the callee look weak with those with eyes that know. Proper argument does not call for such. :) he makes over 4k a month. and he tells me he can't afford rehab. that's why I called him a liar. the problem is his choices, not his addiction. he's a liar and he won't accept that because he lies to himself on a daily basis. just because he is honest about his lying to himself, it does not make him an honest person. Rehab is much more expensive than that, I have been told. I had a friend just this last Summer who nearly overdosed on a cocktail of pills she was taking, unbeknownst to everyone. When she decided to detox after almost dying, the 'center' for her withdrawal required something like a $13,000 down payment. Just to get IN the doors. Now how is that fair? Perhaps that is where the REAL problem lays. I think yes. :) I think there is a big difference between the U.S. and Canada.. however.. he actively chooses to fund his choices... which are all detrimental to his body and mind... its his choice.. he makes it daily...he has come up with a list of excuses for why it is essential for him to make those choices.. because he wants to stay high.. it's as simple as that.. it annoys me that he is trying to draw pity when its clearly his choices that are the issue.. you can't let a junkie tug on your heart strings.. they know what they are doing.. they are professional liars. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30887249 Japan 12/29/2012 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are all RIGHT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30887249 And you don't stand far away from each other, instead of Discussing this in a unproductive Way you should stop and Breath in and out! Heroin/ Opium is much bigger than just a individual Problem, Opium is killing not only the User but also the People in the Country of Origin! The best and easiest Way to kill whole Societies is with H., look for the Iran, for northern India and Pakistan, look for Myanmar and Mexico! Come on, man... at least try... If they didn't need to smuggle there would be none of this... But this will never happening, Opium is lucrative and a Legalisation in the US do not mean that it will be "Legal" in that Countries too! Heroin is out of Fashion in the Western World but not there, this Societies there can't recover because Drugs led to Corruption, Corruptions led to Weapons and Weapons kill the People! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264 you make a choice. you can walk into a rehab right now. and say.. I make over 4k a month. I'm here to get clean. and you would get clean. but you're a liar and you refuse to make that choice because you're a liar. Guessing you've never been close to an addict before. Thank god for that. Learn how to deal with people in a humane way instead of talking like you're better then someone because that my friend will get you nowhere but lonely. ^Nice way to feel sorry for yourself and change the topic liar. Back to your old tricks eh? Oh boo hoo I'm an addict, oh boo hoo.. I can't go to rehab because I can't afford it. Meanwhile. IN REALITY. You are lying. Drawing pity, and funding your own demise when you have enough money to go to rehab right now. L_I_A_R go ahead and boo hoo some more about how sad your life is... I'm actually having a great time right now knowing i still have a heart left unlike you Enjoy picking on addicts and one of these days you're gonna be loosing a couple teeth. Trust me kid living a self righteous life is no way to live. I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it. You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting. |
pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: pi Heroin addicts reliably show increased performance while under the influence. And "the drugs" wouldn't be so time consuming if the "junkie" didn't need to spend all day thinking of where to get a dose of proper painkiller. lol. this is hilarious! they show increased performance because they can actually get up and function after ingesting the drug they grew dependent on.. since their body now needs the drug to function... god you are so daft its infuriating! So... heroin has tolerance, right? Simple question. wat? heroine has tolerance? the human body has tolerance.. ugh.. the drug is the drug.. wtf are you on now??? look how poor your education is... you think the drug itself has tolerance.. you can't even tell the difference between the human and the drug.. that is how much your brain has rot. Right-o. So then, they might become tolerant to the original narcotic effects... yes? Don't see you finding a hole in it. I don't know how I feel about this. Quoting: jadksn 31069334 The Libertarian in me says that I should be allowed to ingest whatever I want, from Rat Poison to the hardest of drugs. But needles and amphetamines are always a bad idea. I live in a part of the country where there's a meth house in every neighborhood, and let me tell you... Amphetamine psychosis is a scary thing. Yeah so take it out of the hands of criminals. They can't compete in an open market. I'm not so sure I'd trust our government to manufacture heroin either, with their conflict poppies bought from Afghanistan.. I've seen the evil face of Amphetamines too many times... You see a man with a home and a career turned into the empty shell of a man in the matter of months. I've never known anyone who just casually used Crystal Meth, it was a NEED to use. They'd do things they otherwise wouldn't do to get another fix. I could get behind a full legalization of Hallucinogens and Marijuana, but Meth is where I draw my line in the sand. Hmm. Yes methamp does have a dedicated user group. Keep in mind though, that in the USA, children are prescribed both amphetamine (Adderall) and methamphetamine (Desoxyn). For ADD. Not saying I'm agreeing, but still, if it's supposedly safe for kids... |
pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are all RIGHT! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30887249 And you don't stand far away from each other, instead of Discussing this in a unproductive Way you should stop and Breath in and out! Heroin/ Opium is much bigger than just a individual Problem, Opium is killing not only the User but also the People in the Country of Origin! The best and easiest Way to kill whole Societies is with H., look for the Iran, for northern India and Pakistan, look for Myanmar and Mexico! Come on, man... at least try... If they didn't need to smuggle there would be none of this... But this will never happening, Opium is lucrative and a Legalisation in the US do not mean that it will be "Legal" in that Countries too! Heroin is out of Fashion in the Western World but not there, this Societies there can't recover because Drugs led to Corruption, Corruptions led to Weapons and Weapons kill the People! Yes... Did you read the post? Please do so. |
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pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264 You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting. So... If heroin were dirt cheap... like it says in the post, one of the cheapest substances (drugs, food, plastic, what have you)... Then how could it fund anything? Seriously? Can you do anything but be a bigot? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 18475264 Canada 12/29/2012 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264 You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting. So... If heroin were dirt cheap... like it says in the post, one of the cheapest substances (drugs, food, plastic, what have you)... Then how could it fund anything? Seriously? Can you do anything but be a bigot? You're posing a question for a hypothetical fantasy. Stick to reality. In reality. Heroin is expensive and costs the lives of thousands of innocent people so you can get high. FACE REALITY. |
pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the entire population of the world is drastically different you wouldn't even be able to find participants in this day and age. also, it's for morphine which is a chemically different substance and used for surgeries... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Wrong on both counts. And thirdly, heroin is used in the UK. You want another study? I prefer to take things out with simple logic, but if you want to be blinded by science, I can do that to... |
Seer777 Ride the wings of the mind User ID: 3018467 United States 12/29/2012 04:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rehab is much more expensive than that, I have been told. Quoting: Seer777 I had a friend just this last Summer who nearly overdosed on a cocktail of pills she was taking, unbeknownst to everyone. When she decided to detox after almost dying, the 'center' for her withdrawal required something like a $13,000 down payment. Just to get IN the doors. Now how is that fair? Perhaps that is where the REAL problem lays. I think yes. :) I think there is a big difference between the U.S. and Canada.. however.. he actively chooses to fund his choices... which are all detrimental to his body and mind... its his choice.. he makes it daily...he has come up with a list of excuses for why it is essential for him to make those choices.. because he wants to stay high.. it's as simple as that.. it annoys me that he is trying to draw pity when its clearly his choices that are the issue.. you can't let a junkie tug on your heart strings.. they know what they are doing.. they are professional liars. From what I have heard there is a reason they call it 'kicking the habit' as the legs will jerk as one detoxes. This should be a hint that the body and morphine derivatives do not dance well together. Not for long anyway. I hear the leg cramps are torture. That is what she told me. I am happy to not know. :) Difficulties strengthen the Mind as labor does the body... ~Seneca |
pi User ID: 30946295 Canada 12/29/2012 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the only way for you to get what you want in the world is to learn to forgive Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24470710 Yup... so do so... I have a heart. I don't however, tolerate crap, and you're full of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18475264 You, on the other hand.. are funding the destruction of innocent people around the world.. who die for you to get high.. and you think you have a heart. You're so selfish and pathetic its disgusting. So... If heroin were dirt cheap... like it says in the post, one of the cheapest substances (drugs, food, plastic, what have you)... Then how could it fund anything? Seriously? Can you do anything but be a bigot? You're posing a question for a hypothetical fantasy. Stick to reality. In reality. Heroin is expensive and costs the lives of thousands of innocent people so you can get high. FACE REALITY. FACE THE FORCE OF CHANGE, BIGOT |