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Ok here is my idea...
Place gps units on all firearms. (old and new)...
Make it illegal for any person possessing an un-traceable firearm or firearm that is unregistered to them a Class A felony; With a guarantee for a sentence reflecting LIFE IN PRISON, or equally Leading to a direct execution "with no exceptions"...
Basically I don't care if anyone owns anywhere between 1 gun, or 100 guns...
But I don't think just anyone should have a gun and go unnoticed by police, schools, and the general population...
Now, if guns were given active gps units, we would be able to track their whereabouts in real time. Leading to less firearm related deaths, fatalities, and both small and large crimes. Think about it, a squad car could posses a link to a live satellite feed showing the location of all firearms in the area; Not only that government approved dispatch centers would have the ability to track a person carrying multiple guns at a time and could send a patrol unit to intervene the subject to identify the reason the firearms are being moved (likely stopping many crimes prior to their execution).
If police knew where all firearms were everyday citizens would be easier approachable by law enforcement; As police wouldn't have to use deadly force as often due to them having first hand knowledge on weather a suspect is carrying at the time. Or running (yet unarmed)... This would reduce the number of deadly force incidents on all unarmed suspects!
Guns are dangerous. I will agree with that; But Guns are also good self defense systems, as well as collector items, and survival tools...
How do we apply them to a structured society if they are among society with no management?
The problem isn't about whether people should, or shouldn't have the right to bear arms. The problem is gun crime.
The problem is stolen weapons, and untraceable firearms killing people everyday...
Would you except a stolen firearm if you knew the penalty for possessing it was "life in prison with no parole".
And would you accept or even steal a firearm with an active gps unit on it?
And would you accept a non gps traceable weapon (again) knowing prior to accepting it; That being caught with its possession is an automatic execution...
(I doubt many people would). Taking the above into account, and add a firearm / live tracking dispatch center, into the equation. The few that would choose to commit the above infractions, would be easily traceable and likely questioned before they had time to commit any potential crimes...
This does not imply that anyone's rights are taken away from them. (own a 1000 guns or a million guns for all I care; But you need to be responsible for them at all costs. If you abuse keeping your firearm in a safe place you in my opinion are just as guilty as the offender that commits a crime with your firearm in my eyes)..
What this revision of firearm laws would do is make both the owners, and the potential thief's more responsible and less likely to commit to gun related crimes, and mishandling...
I am not worried about gun owners. I am worried about gun crimes and that people that have them in their possession are not being monitored leading to a multiliplude of problems in our society.
I live in a city, I am nervous about how easily a firearm could be possessed both illegally and legally...
We need to address this problem with a solution. We need to know that measures are taken, and people are being held accountable for their actions...
We do not need to un-arm american citizens. We need to re-arm american standards.
also once gps units are implanted on firearms, police would have an active amount of leads on all firearms located in an area of a firearm related crime. ( Helping them to triangulate potential suspects, and protect the people you love).
Sure you would have to be a more responsible "gun owner". But That shouldn't be a huge request coming from an unarmed citizen.
You want the right to bear arms. Then Bear them the right way. Or choose not to own one in the first place. It shouldn't be me or my loved ones lives paying the price for the 'mistakes' of Gun owners. It should be the gun owners that have to suffer for abusing the responsibilities in owning a gun...
UNFUCK AMERICA!
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12/23/2012 07:48 PM
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Re: attn gun tards
Terrible idea. For many, many reasons.

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12/23/2012 07:50 PM
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Did you think that all up on your onesies, OP?

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12/23/2012 07:53 PM
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Did you think that all up on your onesies, OP?

cruise
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?
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Did you think that all up on your onesies, OP?

cruise
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>?
why...
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Terrible idea. For many, many reasons.

putin
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?why is it a bad idea?
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12/23/2012 07:55 PM
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I'm sure that the criminals would never think of removing said GPS device.
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I'm sure that the criminals would never think of removing said GPS device.
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Then let them be slain...
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12/23/2012 07:56 PM
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I'm sure that the criminals would never think of removing said GPS device.
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Then let them be slain...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Thats the whole point. If they disregard their own lives. Then so be it.
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12/23/2012 07:58 PM
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wakeup
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12/23/2012 07:59 PM
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wakeup
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why all the this is a bad idea posts but no effort to back up why said idea is a bad idea...
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I'm sure that the criminals would never think of removing said GPS device.
 Quoting: Tuko


Then let them be slain...
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How would you know in advance that they disarmed the GPS?

How would you enforce the installation of GPS units on all guns?

How large would the GPS unit be?

How would it adapt to EVERY firearm?

Can you imagine the size and scope of a tracking system it would require?

The list goes on...
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OP, I think you should publicly announce what valuable items you own and where you hide them. Also, please tell everyone you see each time you leave your home and how long you'll be gone.

Jesus Christ on honey fried banana bread, OP. You don't think things through too much do you?
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wakeup
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that was a wake up call for all the anti-guntards ....since we are name calling people that prefer to defend themselves.
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12/23/2012 08:05 PM
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I'm sure that the criminals would never think of removing said GPS device.
 Quoting: Tuko


Then let them be slain...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


How would you know in advance that they disarmed the GPS?
Satellite tracking via email to dispatch center (much like an ankle brackets (house arrest monitors) that currently track offenders).

How would you enforce the installation of GPS units on all guns?
Give a date window giving all owners 3 months to comply. Any firearm not taken in by said window / date becomes illegal contraband...

How large would the GPS unit be?
Depending on weapon. 1.5 in max...

How would it adapt to EVERY firearm?
Multiple companies could engineer devices for firearms of all types...

Can you imagine the size and scope of a tracking system it would require?

Yes. It would create more jobs for many public and private sectors. both helping society, economically, and providing more security to everyday americans. As well as clearing dangerous felons off the streets.

The list goes on...
 Quoting: Tuko
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12/23/2012 08:06 PM
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OP, I think you should publicly announce what valuable items you own and where you hide them. Also, please tell everyone you see each time you leave your home and how long you'll be gone.

Jesus Christ on honey fried banana bread, OP. You don't think things through too much do you?
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actually I do.
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Get a ccw permit op and move on.45autokarma
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12/23/2012 08:08 PM
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The gps cold be in the firing pin (integrated) aaaand,did you see skyfall,judge dredd, guns peonalized... You can't do that in. Year but begin jusjt right now....
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wakeup
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that was a wake up call for all the anti-guntards ....since we are name calling people that prefer to defend themselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11591025


I am not an anti gun tard.

I think guns should be on the market (any type you want). I just think that they should also be monitored.
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Get a ccw permit op and move on.:45autokarma:
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lol - you're old school, just like me - still with the Hydra-Shoks.

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12/23/2012 08:09 PM
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Why stop there? Lets put a camera in every room of every home and on every street corner in America. Hell, lets just turn it into a police state and no one will commit crimes! Problem solved!

putin
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Get a ccw permit op and move on.:45autokarma:
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


this isnt about me...

Its about the entire world community.

Putting a stop to illegal weapon purchasing, and firearm related crimes.
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Why stop there? Lets put a camera in every room of every home and on every street corner in America. Hell, lets just turn it into a police state and no one will commit crimes! Problem solved!

putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21687950


I don't believe that this is violating your personal privacy...

If you choose to own a firearm, you should be willing to accept the responsibilities in its ownership...
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12/23/2012 08:13 PM
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I don't believe that this is violating your personal privacy...

If you choose to own a firearm, you should be willing to accept the responsibilities in its ownership...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


About 99.99% of all firearms owners already accept the responsibility for the safe usage and storage of their firearms. No need to insult, punish, or unnecessarily intrude upon them.
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12/23/2012 08:14 PM
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Why stop there? Lets put a camera in every room of every home and on every street corner in America. Hell, lets just turn it into a police state and no one will commit crimes! Problem solved!

putin
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21687950


I don't believe that this is violating your personal privacy...

If you choose to own a firearm, you should be willing to accept the responsibilities in its ownership...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


Also this is to make it less of a police state. As the excessive use of deadly force is mainly attributed to police concerns that civilians are armed.

Having your weapons secured is already your responsibility. So this in no way complicates that. It just means that im implying that someone makes sure you hold onto your end of the bargain...
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Get a ccw permit op and move on.45autokarma
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


this isnt about me...

Its about the entire world community.

Putting a stop to illegal weapon purchasing, and firearm related crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


How about we just put a microchip in everyone's forehead and wrist that tracks everything that everyone purchases period?
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12/23/2012 08:16 PM
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I don't believe that this is violating your personal privacy...

If you choose to own a firearm, you should be willing to accept the responsibilities in its ownership...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


About 99.99% of all firearms owners already accept the responsibility for the safe usage and storage of their firearms. No need to insult, punish, or unnecessarily intrude upon them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21687950


There would be no at home check ups. This isn't probation. This is monitoring.

The only reasoning a police man would intervene is if the gps unit triggers a alarm. (which would be all dependent on set statutes in law).
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Thread: What do you think about my idea on the new gun legislation

one thread not enough?

and my comment from the other thread still stands.


4 words...

shall not be infringed.


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12/23/2012 08:18 PM
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I'm sure that the criminals would never think of removing said GPS device.
 Quoting: Tuko


Then let them be slain...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


How would you know in advance that they disarmed the GPS?

How would you enforce the installation of GPS units on all guns?

How large would the GPS unit be?

How would it adapt to EVERY firearm?

Can you imagine the size and scope of a tracking system it would require?

The list goes on...
 Quoting: Tuko


and your list is just a start
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12/23/2012 08:19 PM
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Get a ccw permit op and move on.:45autokarma:
 Quoting: ar-15 nut


this isnt about me...

Its about the entire world community.

Putting a stop to illegal weapon purchasing, and firearm related crimes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


How about we just put a microchip in everyone's forehead and wrist that tracks everything that everyone purchases period?
 Quoting: Undestroyer


This isn't about tracking people, its about tracking weapons...

We do this to keep people safe. Not to infringe their rights of privacy...

If you own a gun you already committed to storing it securely, and using it within the realm of the law.

Whats so different Are you scared that you couldn't abide by keeping your end of the bargain?
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I'm sure that the criminals would never think of removing said GPS device.
 Quoting: Tuko


Then let them be slain...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23231420


How would you know in advance that they disarmed the GPS?

How would you enforce the installation of GPS units on all guns?

How large would the GPS unit be?

How would it adapt to EVERY firearm?

Can you imagine the size and scope of a tracking system it would require?

The list goes on...
 Quoting: Tuko


and your list is just a start
 Quoting: s. d. butler


I answered these earlier.

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