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I have to tell it to someone. I found this forum where I hope to find like-minded people.

It's very strange to me, but since the beginning I had a gut feeling that he didn't do it. It simply didn't make sense to me that shy, withdrawn kid with Asperger Syndrome will wake up one day and kill his mother with cold blood.

The more I've learned about the story, the more I am convinced that he is a victim.

I didn't have this feeling when I've read about some other atrocious crimes. I understand that people go mad and kill other people, but...

Many people ask why. I ask myself WHAT FOR. Everybody stresses that he supposedly had a plan, he didn't act on impulse, like I have enough of my oppressive mother so I will shut her in her face. He had to get up relatively early and prepare himself.

Now no matter how deranged was his mind, I have to ask this question: WHAT FOR. What goal he was realizing? What he allegedly did was a basically terrorist attack on elementary school. The answer that he did it without any goal in mind doesn't satisfy me, because it's not like the human mind works. Nobody is making plans to achieve nothing. To kill yourself you don't have to drive to school and kill little children. You can do it in the comfort of your home after you killed your mother.

So again: WHAT FOR?

Columbine massacre is self-understood, they did it for revenge.

There can't be any plausible explanation of revenge in this case. The mother connection to the school is doubtful. The most ludicrous ideas are that guy from autistic spectrum would be upset that his mother was busy with something or someone else. 20 year old guy, definitely not disturbed enough to not be able at least for some time to attend regular high school, with Asperger Syndrome, would love to just play computer games while his mother was out. I can imagine the kind of conflict they had: she wanted him to be more social, make friends, and he just wanted to be alone.

Is it a reason to kill your mother? Nope.
It can be a reason to occasional outbursts of frustration but not scary enough that she will be afraid that he will take the gun one day.

I'm looking at his face. He was killed, I know it, he didn't kill himself nor his mother. Any thoughts?
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Adam Lanza shot no one!

Garcia has been following the story from the beginning. In Garcia’s opinion Adam Lanza killed no one. Certainly not his mother, who he loved, nor anyone else.

Adam is described as “not violent, shy and quiet”, and his mother Nancy as “really pleasant”, according to neighbor Ryan Kraft, 25.

His father, Peter Lanza, says he was “surprised and horrified” at the news reports.

A woman friend of Peter Lanza's said: “Adam was doing wonderfully! This is inconceivable. Peter loves his children. Adam was doing so well.”

Early reports said Adam used a shotgun, a .223-caliber rifle and two semi-automatic handguns. And had an abundance of ammunition. Later reports said he used only the rifle and handguns, then later only the handguns, the rifle was left in the car. Also he was reported clad in military assault gear and a bullet proof vest. Why wear a vest if you are gonna kill yourself? A kid too shy to talk to classmates waltzes into a store to buy this stuff with no questions asked?

Are we to believe this shy, quiet, non violent young man who was doing wonderfully used a pair of handguns to murder 26 people with military sharpshooter precision in less than four minutes? And then just stop killing for no reason and turn a gun on himself? Why would he just stop killing? He had “an abundance of ammunition”! They said he murdered his mother as well. How did they know this? The guns and crime scene were still at the school...?

Early reports said the gunmen (plural) were buzzed into the school. Later reports said Lanza acted alone and broke through the front doors.

Early reports said Ryan Lanza, 24 was one of the gunmen and was found dead by Police. Later reports said he died of a self-inflicted gun shot. It was not Ryan at all. They said Adam had Ryan’s ID on him...I doubt this.

Initial reports said there were two gunmen. Cameras showed Police arresting a man in the woods and further searching cars in the area. What happened to the guy from the woods?

They said Adam destroyed the hard-drives on the computers in his home and that the FBI could not retrieve any data from them. Oh really, since when would the gurus at the FBI not be able to recapture deleted files? And for what purpose would Adam destroy the hard drives? Was he intending to hide incriminating evidence? Why would someone who is gonna kill himself do this?

Dear Peter & Ryan Lanza we plead with you to protect and defend the innocence of your brother who was obviously brainwashed and threatened into these events then murdered by his handler in the end...

Parts of this report were taken from: The Chicago Tribune, Sunday Dec. 16th, 2012.
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Who is Garcia?

Peter Lanza is involved, if only indirectly.
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Yes, I don't believe he killed his mother...or hurt those children.
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He killed her with cold blood?
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I want to add something that came to my mind later.

The destroyed computers.

Now, I'm a bit of nerd myself. I'm not an aspie, but I like to be by myself and sit at the computer. He was called by many a nerd, computer genius and so on. First for me it's inconceivable to destroy my computer because I have kind of emotional connection with it. :) But jokes aside, I think that THEY destroyed the computers and their owners because this kid hacked some site and got some important information.


And one thing more: looking for a motive. There is no frigging chance that someone who is autistic/aspie, would like to voluntarily become the center of attention. He can kick and scream, and curse; but to plan an atrocity that for sure will make him famous and in the spotlight. Noooo!
No aspie will enjoy the idea to become famous mass-murderer.
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I have to tell it to someone. I found this forum where I hope to find like-minded people.

It's very strange to me, but since the beginning I had a gut feeling that he didn't do it. It simply didn't make sense to me that shy, withdrawn kid with Asperger Syndrome will wake up one day and kill his mother with cold blood.

The more I've learned about the story, the more I am convinced that he is a victim.

I didn't have this feeling when I've read about some other atrocious crimes. I understand that people go mad and kill other people, but...

Many people ask why. I ask myself WHAT FOR. Everybody stresses that he supposedly had a plan, he didn't act on impulse, like I have enough of my oppressive mother so I will shut her in her face. He had to get up relatively early and prepare himself.

Now no matter how deranged was his mind, I have to ask this question: WHAT FOR. What goal he was realizing? What he allegedly did was a basically terrorist attack on elementary school. The answer that he did it without any goal in mind doesn't satisfy me, because it's not like the human mind works. Nobody is making plans to achieve nothing. To kill yourself you don't have to drive to school and kill little children. You can do it in the comfort of your home after you killed your mother.

So again: WHAT FOR?

Columbine massacre is self-understood, they did it for revenge.

There can't be any plausible explanation of revenge in this case. The mother connection to the school is doubtful. The most ludicrous ideas are that guy from autistic spectrum would be upset that his mother was busy with something or someone else. 20 year old guy, definitely not disturbed enough to not be able at least for some time to attend regular high school, with Asperger Syndrome, would love to just play computer games while his mother was out. I can imagine the kind of conflict they had: she wanted him to be more social, make friends, and he just wanted to be alone.

Is it a reason to kill your mother? Nope.
It can be a reason to occasional outbursts of frustration but not scary enough that she will be afraid that he will take the gun one day.

I'm looking at his face. He was killed, I know it, he didn't kill himself nor his mother. Any thoughts?
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You have written what's been my mind, but I have to disagree with you about Columbine. I think there is a lot more to each than has been told in the official stories.

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GLP has been ripping the Lanza Event to shreds. Just had to say that.

OP, your point of view is one that I share, among others.
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i agree. even if the kid shot his mother, the odds of committing that act and then going to kill kids at a secure elementary school defies logic, reason, and deductive probability. imo...the mom was shot, the lanza kid was drugged, taken to the scene, suicided after the massacre. a lanza might have had his brothers old id to purchase beer, authorities found it and it led to the multitude of confusing stories until one made the most sense....order out of chaos.
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Im beginning to think he wasn't even at the school. They killed him and his mother for whatever reason and set Adam up as the patsy.
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I want to add something that came to my mind later.

The destroyed computers.

Now, I'm a bit of nerd myself. I'm not an aspie, but I like to be by myself and sit at the computer. He was called by many a nerd, computer genius and so on. First for me it's inconceivable to destroy my computer because I have kind of emotional connection with it. :) But jokes aside, I think that THEY destroyed the computers and their owners because this kid hacked some site and got some important information.


And one thing more: looking for a motive. There is no frigging chance that someone who is autistic/aspie, would like to voluntarily become the center of attention. He can kick and scream, and curse; but to plan an atrocity that for sure will make him famous and in the spotlight. Noooo!
No aspie will enjoy the idea to become famous mass-murderer.
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Yeah, I think you may be right. The computer was the key clue. There was something on there or he hacked and got information on something he shouldn't have.
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I have to tell it to someone. I found this forum where I hope to find like-minded people.

It's very strange to me, but since the beginning I had a gut feeling that he didn't do it. It simply didn't make sense to me that shy, withdrawn kid with Asperger Syndrome will wake up one day and kill his mother with cold blood.

The more I've learned about the story, the more I am convinced that he is a victim.

I didn't have this feeling when I've read about some other atrocious crimes. I understand that people go mad and kill other people, but...

Many people ask why. I ask myself WHAT FOR. Everybody stresses that he supposedly had a plan, he didn't act on impulse, like I have enough of my oppressive mother so I will shut her in her face. He had to get up relatively early and prepare himself.

Now no matter how deranged was his mind, I have to ask this question: WHAT FOR. What goal he was realizing? What he allegedly did was a basically terrorist attack on elementary school. The answer that he did it without any goal in mind doesn't satisfy me, because it's not like the human mind works. Nobody is making plans to achieve nothing. To kill yourself you don't have to drive to school and kill little children. You can do it in the comfort of your home after you killed your mother.

So again: WHAT FOR?

Columbine massacre is self-understood, they did it for revenge.

There can't be any plausible explanation of revenge in this case. The mother connection to the school is doubtful. The most ludicrous ideas are that guy from autistic spectrum would be upset that his mother was busy with something or someone else. 20 year old guy, definitely not disturbed enough to not be able at least for some time to attend regular high school, with Asperger Syndrome, would love to just play computer games while his mother was out. I can imagine the kind of conflict they had: she wanted him to be more social, make friends, and he just wanted to be alone.

Is it a reason to kill your mother? Nope.
It can be a reason to occasional outbursts of frustration but not scary enough that she will be afraid that he will take the gun one day.

I'm looking at his face. He was killed, I know it, he didn't kill himself nor his mother. Any thoughts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28304177


Check out the thread called "Sandy Hook: How does a 110 lbs kid (working alone)..."] top post of page 4.

Whether you believe it or not, it will at least be a good starting point for understanding really what happened that day.
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The whole thing reminds me of the Johnny Depp movie Nick of Time!
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kinda start Here:

Im beginning to think he wasn't even at the school.

and go from there
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OK. So here I am back again. I was thinking for the past few days about this whole thing and I can't shake the feeling that Adam was an innocent victim.

I wanted to add some points.

People called him a looser that snapped. I don't see anything in his life that could make him snap.

First of all in his house he had his little Aspie paradise. I am fond of video games myself and I can only imagine how blissful was his existence. If he played CoD it's only normal that he will know all the weapons by heart. And no, I don't believe in this BS that video games make you violent. If he would like to repeat some CoD mission he wouldn't go to shoot children. He would go to a high school, that was BTW closer to his house or to a mall.

Now, what about this rot, that he had some pent up anger. I don't think so. His position in life wasn't miserable. His family had money, he could learn whatever he wanted. His mother with her social life and getaways left him plenty of space. My guess is that she wasn't happy that he is different, but I think that she accepted it. As a person with high IQ he could apart from playing video games, just develop one of his interests with the use of Internet.

I'm a bit of loner too. There are many people in our society that are simply not so much interested in other people. Let alone in killing them. I will repeat my question again. Why should he kill this children. What for?

It's so sad. They, I don't know who, killed this young man and his mother. The only consolation I have is that his soul knows the truth and his mother's knows it too. I hope they are united in peace.
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OK. So here I am back again. I was thinking for the past few days about this whole thing and I can't shake the feeling that Adam was an innocent victim.

I wanted to add some points.

People called him a looser that snapped. I don't see anything in his life that could make him snap.

First of all in his house he had his little Aspie paradise. I am fond of video games myself and I can only imagine how blissful was his existence. If he played CoD it's only normal that he will know all the weapons by heart. And no, I don't believe in this BS that video games make you violent. If he would like to repeat some CoD mission he wouldn't go to shoot children. He would go to a high school, that was BTW closer to his house or to a mall.

Now, what about this rot, that he had some pent up anger. I don't think so. His position in life wasn't miserable. His family had money, he could learn whatever he wanted. His mother with her social life and getaways left him plenty of space. My guess is that she wasn't happy that he is different, but I think that she accepted it. As a person with high IQ he could apart from playing video games, just develop one of his interests with the use of Internet.

I'm a bit of loner too. There are many people in our society that are simply not so much interested in other people. Let alone in killing them. I will repeat my question again. Why should he kill this children. What for?

It's so sad. They, I don't know who, killed this young man and his mother. The only consolation I have is that his soul knows the truth and his mother's knows it too. I hope they are united in peace.
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He is a mass murderer!! why would you think he's innocent? He killed babies!
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He is a mass murderer!! why would you think he's innocent? He killed babies!
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OK. So here I am back again. I was thinking for the past few days about this whole thing and I can't shake the feeling that Adam was an innocent victim.

I wanted to add some points.

People called him a looser that snapped. I don't see anything in his life that could make him snap.

First of all in his house he had his little Aspie paradise. I am fond of video games myself and I can only imagine how blissful was his existence. If he played CoD it's only normal that he will know all the weapons by heart. And no, I don't believe in this BS that video games make you violent. If he would like to repeat some CoD mission he wouldn't go to shoot children. He would go to a high school, that was BTW closer to his house or to a mall.

Now, what about this rot, that he had some pent up anger. I don't think so. His position in life wasn't miserable. His family had money, he could learn whatever he wanted. His mother with her social life and getaways left him plenty of space. My guess is that she wasn't happy that he is different, but I think that she accepted it. As a person with high IQ he could apart from playing video games, just develop one of his interests with the use of Internet.

I'm a bit of loner too. There are many people in our society that are simply not so much interested in other people. Let alone in killing them. I will repeat my question again. Why should he kill this children. What for?

It's so sad. They, I don't know who, killed this young man and his mother. The only consolation I have is that his soul knows the truth and his mother's knows it too. I hope they are united in peace.
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Dude, they deleted your thread?
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This kid may not even exist?

He may be a fabrication by Psychopaths?

Most of the "public" information I have seen indicate only one (1) child in the Lanza family.

There is also some evidence that "Adam" changed his name to "Ryan" several years ago?

They are the same person?
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He is a mass murderer!! why would you think he's innocent? He killed babies
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Yeah, but he didn't eat them? So he cant be ALL BAD?

Seriously though,

There is NO EVIDENCE anyone was killed at this Circus Psy-Op.

The "Media", and certain factions of Psychopaths are perpetrating a Propaganda Scheme.

THAT is what the EVIDENCE INDICATES.

Nothing More.
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I happen to agree with this, he was a victim as well as any others murdered by the black ops and murder incorporated stinky diaper group running this world. Harming others, enslaving others is very immature, very weak and pathetic and very much a stinky pile of diapers from tiny tots.

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he got ascended with next to wilcock
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His dad is THE tax guy for GE. Hes also on trial in the LIBOR scandal, sounds like a good ol Mafia tactic of trying to stop someone from testifing.
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I'm looking at his face. He was killed, I know it, he didn't kill himself nor his mother. Any thoughts?
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He probably is innocent, though I doubt you can prove that by just looking at his face. How do we even know anyone was really killed? Countless people are shot to death elsewhere in the country but the media is fixated on this one law enforcement drill with crisis actors as if it really happened.
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This kid may not even exist?

He may be a fabrication by Psychopaths?

Most of the "public" information I have seen indicate only one (1) child in the Lanza family.

There is also some evidence that "Adam" changed his name to "Ryan" several years ago?

They are the same person?
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Do you know where I can read more about this?
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Adam Lanza shot no one!

Garcia has been following the story from the beginning. In Garcia’s opinion Adam Lanza killed no one. Certainly not his mother, who he loved, nor anyone else.

Adam is described as “not violent, shy and quiet”, and his mother Nancy as “really pleasant”, according to neighbor Ryan Kraft, 25.

His father, Peter Lanza, says he was “surprised and horrified” at the news reports.

A woman friend of Peter Lanza's said: “Adam was doing wonderfully! This is inconceivable. Peter loves his children. Adam was doing so well.”

Early reports said Adam used a shotgun, a .223-caliber rifle and two semi-automatic handguns. And had an abundance of ammunition. Later reports said he used only the rifle and handguns, then later only the handguns, the rifle was left in the car. Also he was reported clad in military assault gear and a bullet proof vest. Why wear a vest if you are gonna kill yourself? A kid too shy to talk to classmates waltzes into a store to buy this stuff with no questions asked?

Are we to believe this shy, quiet, non violent young man who was doing wonderfully used a pair of handguns to murder 26 people with military sharpshooter precision in less than four minutes? And then just stop killing for no reason and turn a gun on himself? Why would he just stop killing? He had “an abundance of ammunition”! They said he murdered his mother as well. How did they know this? The guns and crime scene were still at the school...?

Early reports said the gunmen (plural) were buzzed into the school. Later reports said Lanza acted alone and broke through the front doors.

Early reports said Ryan Lanza, 24 was one of the gunmen and was found dead by Police. Later reports said he died of a self-inflicted gun shot. It was not Ryan at all. They said Adam had Ryan’s ID on him...I doubt this.

Initial reports said there were two gunmen. Cameras showed Police arresting a man in the woods and further searching cars in the area. What happened to the guy from the woods?

They said Adam destroyed the hard-drives on the computers in his home and that the FBI could not retrieve any data from them. Oh really, since when would the gurus at the FBI not be able to recapture deleted files? And for what purpose would Adam destroy the hard drives? Was he intending to hide incriminating evidence? Why would someone who is gonna kill himself do this?

Dear Peter & Ryan Lanza we plead with you to protect and defend the innocence of your brother who was obviously brainwashed and threatened into these events then murdered by his handler in the end...

Parts of this report were taken from: The Chicago Tribune, Sunday Dec. 16th, 2012.
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good points! you forgot the 4 handguns too! Like you said why would he stop shooting.Exactly,especially since now theyre saying that they think he might have been trying to out kill that guy that shot 70 some people.If that were the case,why did he shoot victims multiple times also?If his goal was as many as fast as possible he wouldnt have shot some people up to 11 times...this whole thing is horrible...theres many victims in this,not just ones directly associated with it,which we all kind of were the way it played out on tv.
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I want to add something that came to my mind later.

The destroyed computers.

Now, I'm a bit of nerd myself. I'm not an aspie, but I like to be by myself and sit at the computer. He was called by many a nerd, computer genius and so on. First for me it's inconceivable to destroy my computer because I have kind of emotional connection with it. :) But jokes aside, I think that THEY destroyed the computers and their owners because this kid hacked some site and got some important information.


And one thing more: looking for a motive. There is no frigging chance that someone who is autistic/aspie, would like to voluntarily become the center of attention. He can kick and scream, and curse; but to plan an atrocity that for sure will make him famous and in the spotlight. Noooo!
No aspie will enjoy the idea to become famous mass-murderer.
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I never thought of the hacking aspect!
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This kid may not even exist?

He may be a fabrication by Psychopaths?

Most of the "public" information I have seen indicate only one (1) child in the Lanza family.

There is also some evidence that "Adam" changed his name to "Ryan" several years ago?

They are the same person?
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Do you know where I can read more about this?
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i saw something to...like a geneology only had them having one son,but never saw with my own eyes
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This is worth a read ...

I do think he is innocent tho .. No one died !

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