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NOW.... 2 FIRE FIGHTERS DEAD 2 OTHERS SHOT.... Shooter Dead.... WEBSTER NY

 
Ostria1

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They're saying now that 3 homes and a car were burnt out, and as far as anyone can say the fire started in the car.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


if it is so then it would be an ambush
but.. how easy is it for a fire to start from a car and spread over the homes there?
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They're saying now that 3 homes and a car were burnt out, and as far as anyone can say the fire started in the car.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Home at 191 Lake Rd. in Webster was owned by William Spengler and had 193 deeded to him. Unsure about his involvement if any..
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They're saying now that 3 homes and a car were burnt out, and as far as anyone can say the fire started in the car.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Home at 191 Lake Rd. in Webster was owned by William Spengler and had 193 deeded to him. Unsure about his involvement if any..
 Quoting: Nlightened


This is public info so no infraction..
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They're saying now that 3 homes and a car were burnt out, and as far as anyone can say the fire started in the car.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


if it is so then it would be an ambush
but.. how easy is it for a fire to start from a car and spread over the homes there?
 Quoting: Ostria1


I guess if you parked close enough it would be easy enough to do it.

They're saying now that 3 homes and a car were burnt out, and as far as anyone can say the fire started in the car.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


Home at 191 Lake Rd. in Webster was owned by William Spengler and had 193 deeded to him. Unsure about his involvement if any..
 Quoting: Nlightened


This is public info so no infraction..
 Quoting: Nlightened


Even so, is it a wise thing to post?
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This happened several times in and around Tulsa and Muskogee, Oklahoma in the mid to late 90s. Fucking idiot gangbangers would shoot at passing ambulances and fire trucks. It was nuts.

I feel for the families of the slain.
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who will be the first to suggest armed guards with firefighters is the answer?
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spock
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


All due respect, how many times have you heard of a fire fighter being itentionally gunned down? They are seen as community pillars and enact no forms of oppression. RIch, poor, there is no reason to target a fire fighter.They are not a threat even to drug kingpins and slave traders. THere is no precedent being set here, otherwise the DC Snipers would have resulted in SAM Sites at gas stations. A teacher is a target because they deal with oceans of people who are not full developed and are suceptible to dangerous impulse and angst. Teachers having access to defense weaponry has a precedent. Half the high schools already have metal detectors and frisking.
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it's a rad russian on a roof
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Just another day in the Ole US of A
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30583851


Now we have Fire Fighters being shot at with assault rifles... What are the chances of this ??
 Quoting: Nlightened


Yeah, no chance this person was rejected for or fired from being a firefighter. It HAS to be someone with an AR-15, either former/current Military or someone in or with strong ties to a Malitia. It's about time in the script to start going after the Malitias so I'm going to go with that one.
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Anyone heard about sniper shooting in NYC now?
wtf
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who will be the first to suggest armed guards with firefighters is the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30774316


If you woul read posts before replying you woul see several have already suggested that. READ READ READ!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082



You're right , it wasn't long a all.
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What probably really happened was the home owner had bullets stored somwhere and the fire was causing the cartridges to discharge unfortunately hitting one of the fireman who responded. And because e lame stream media is all about hype they immediately said there was a gunman, when what probably happened is it was just a result of the fire burning cartridges in the home on fire.
 Quoting: I call Bull 15405508


this
Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
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I'll bet you ten to one this SOB set the fire too.
WTF, an arsonist, sniper!
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What probably really happened was the home owner had bullets stored somwhere and the fire was causing the cartridges to discharge unfortunately hitting one of the fireman who responded. And because e lame stream media is all about hype they immediately said there was a gunman, when what probably happened is it was just a result of the fire burning cartridges in the home on fire.
 Quoting: I call Bull 15405508


this
 Quoting: Dark_Green


another reason to ban ammo. It's about damn time, son
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What probably really happened was the home owner had bullets stored somwhere and the fire was causing the cartridges to discharge unfortunately hitting one of the fireman who responded. And because e lame stream media is all about hype they immediately said there was a gunman, when what probably happened is it was just a result of the fire burning cartridges in the home on fire.
 Quoting: I call Bull 15405508


this
 Quoting: Dark_Green


they said at least one was shot at the back
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who will be the first to suggest armed guards with firefighters is the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30774316


spock
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


All due respect, how many times have you heard of a fire fighter being itentionally gunned down? They are seen as community pillars and enact no forms of oppression.
 Quoting: Hilary's Ass Hair 6691628


Yeah, it's pretty rare. It's not unheard of here though.
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Give firefighters armed guards.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30568477


Better yet, stop illegally restricting citizens' rights to bear arms and just put a news bulletin out about the location of the shooter and then watch CCW holders turn him into hamburger.

Law enforcement officers needed and they are us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29724397


In the imagination of your tiny mind.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30568477


Morgan, is that you?

you won't like the cooking in England...

:)
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Anyone heard about sniper shooting in NYC now?
wtf
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hiding
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I only live about 20 miles from Webster. Can't believe this is happening.
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Just another day in the Ole US of A
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30583851


Now we have Fire Fighters being shot at with assault rifles... What are the chances of this ??
 Quoting: Nlightened


Kids, firefighters... The last people you could imagine being shoted.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8298598


Don't forget teachers and police officers. Who's next?
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who will be the first to suggest armed guards with firefighters is the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30774316


If you woul read posts before replying you woul see several have already suggested that. READ READ READ!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


You read every single post on every single page? Wow. Most people don't have that kind of time.

In any case, is it really worth this kind of reaction? Someone asked a question that had already been asked. So?

Why is it so hard for people to be kind?
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who will be the first to suggest armed guards with firefighters is the answer?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30774316


If you woul read posts before replying you woul see several have already suggested that. READ READ READ!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


You read every single post on every single page? Wow. Most people don't have that kind of time.

In any case, is it really worth this kind of reaction? Someone asked a question that had already been asked. So?

Why is it so hard for people to be kind?
 Quoting: Little Willow


this
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Saying that there's going to be an update soon on the feed.
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Exactly.

Or, how many children were murdered by abortion yesterday?

The truth of inconvenience.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041


ffs..drink driving is illegal...abortion should also be banned, just as guns should be banned...

how many more innocent people are gonna be killed by psychos in your insane country before you people change your opinion on gun laws?

your a bunch of angry barbarians yeilding guns, its MADNESS!!!

just look at the mentality of people posting on here...you hate all muslims and have people calling to nuke them all ffs..

you hate black people, hispanics and anyone else that isnt white...

you are a backwards nation that hasnt caught up with the rest of the world...

you dont give guns to psychos and america is just full of psychos...

putin
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


Yeah, they're SO much more civilized over there.


 Quoting: Billxam


uk has its monsters no doubt. but it seems you americans are just full of anger and hatred like no other nation on the planet...

your children become mass murderers ffs, your government goes around the world killing millions.

its like you are a bunch of raving lunatics...

again how many more innocent people are going to be killed before you grow a brain and realise letting any tom, dick or harry carry guns leads to psychos getting them and carrying out their sick fantasies

and it makes it easy for the 'normal' guy in a rage to kill.

thats always been my point, guns make it 'easy' to kill, whereby the same people wouldnt have the guts to kill using a knife for example.

in 2011 68% of murders commited in the US were done using firearms...

take those firearms away can you imagine how your murder rates would fall???
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


Most of these assholes are related to your cuntry in one way or another. England has raped the planet and continues to do so through it's legacy. Your an idiot with a short-term memory problem. What pops off over here is just beneath the surface over there. It never went away. Just wait bitch boy.
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Civil war inc.
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What probably really happened was the home owner had bullets stored somwhere and the fire was causing the cartridges to discharge unfortunately hitting one of the fireman who responded. And because e lame stream media is all about hype they immediately said there was a gunman, when what probably happened is it was just a result of the fire burning cartridges in the home on fire.
 Quoting: I call Bull 15405508


Bullets don't go up like that. They just harmlessly (almost) "pop" when they are burned.
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Just another day in the Ole US of A
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30583851


Now we have Fire Fighters being shot at with assault rifles... What are the chances of this ??
 Quoting: Nlightened


Kneeegrow guettos in Portugal use this same tactic. They call in 9/11 for a problem (accident/fire/etc) and when they show up, they get shot at.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30456781


Really? Never heard about this. But news like this never make it into the news in Germany.
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when was this Kentacy incident they said about?
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Webster New York

Named after Daniel Webster a statesman who argued several cases before the Supreme Court

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Webster:

Other notable appearances by Webster before the Supreme Court include his representation of James McCulloch (as cashier at the Baltimore branch of the Second Bank of the United States) in McCulloch v. Maryland (1819), the Cohens in Cohens v. Virginia (1821), and Thomas Gibbons in Gibbons v. Ogden (1824), cases similar to Dartmouth in the court's application of a broad interpretation of the Constitution and strengthening of the federal courts' power to constrain the states, which have since been used to justify wide powers for the federal government.

Probably not conneted but thought I'd look it up.
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when was this Kentacy incident they said about?
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thats ok i found it

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Just another day in the Ole US of A
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30583851


Now we have Fire Fighters being shot at with assault rifles... What are the chances of this ??
 Quoting: Nlightened


Kneeegrow guettos in Portugal use this same tactic. They call in 9/11 for a problem (accident/fire/etc) and when they show up, they get shot at.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30456781


Really? Never heard about this. But news like this never make it into the news in Germany.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1245570


It's happened once or twice in the UK over the years.

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