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NOW.... 2 FIRE FIGHTERS DEAD 2 OTHERS SHOT.... Shooter Dead.... WEBSTER NY

 
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Hmm, this does look like another attack on your right under the second amendment to keep and bear arms.
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Do you really think this? I think it's a break down in the American society. People are getting pissed off with toffs running the show and reeping all the rewards while the poor sods at the bottom of the pile keep getting trod on. People have had enough and now times are getting hard we will see alot more of these shooting I would imagine.
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i agree with you, i have never seen so many people so angry and so tired of the crap coming from washington.

both dems and repubs are angry. you would think that moronic dems would at least be happy that the muzz still occupies the white house? but no. i am also seeing a lot of hopelessness which goes against everything which defines an american.

i hope i am wrong, but i see big trouble ahead.
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The same shit is going on here in the UK to be honest. Rich toffs get tax breaks of around £70,000 while the poor sods at the bottom get raped and any help they rely on taken away. It's all part of thier NWO plan i guess to turn the people against each other. Then they can claim full control over us. That's thier ultimate goal.
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Hmm, this does look like another attack on your right under the second amendment to keep and bear arms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11270093


Do you really think this? I think it's a break down in the American society. People are getting pissed off with toffs running the show and reeping all the rewards while the poor sods at the bottom of the pile keep getting trod on. People have had enough and now times are getting hard we will see alot more of these shooting I would imagine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30787471


These shootings are staged by TPTB to push their gun grabbing agenda.

Think about it:

- Children
- Volunteer Firemen

Who next?

The pattern is to incite a tear jerk emotional response by the general public to HATE GUNS. Then banning them will be easy.
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The fact that the House address was 191 is creepy .

I saw that at 7 am here ...

As A person in this Town i can tell you that we are cooked economically here . I live near Kodak Park . Ghost Town !!

Xerox is a shell of it's former glory ... There are no traffic jam's here on your way to work !!! Because there is NO WORK !!!

The police < County Sheriff -State trooper's- Homeland Security -ICE- Local Town police forces and Roch. Police Dept> Feed of the public on the road's and x press way's . They stay far away from the GHETTO's . they just drive around and respond to Domestic's .

Everyone has a BENEFIT card !!!!And O bammy phone

Crime is Rampant !!! But never makes the news . The Black Market is allowed to go full speed , while the County grabs the cash in Fines , seizure's and jail time restitution through PROBATION .

The Indigenous population in the City of Rochester Run the Drugs in OPEN MARKETS all over . You Can't walk around at NIGHT !!! Racism is RAMPANT !!! Black on White .
There are shooting 's and murders daily here...
The Shots fired never make the news unless some one was injured .

This sounds like a mad man on the loose that had enough !!! The Jury is still out .

This town couldn't operate w/o the College 's Hospital's
and Courts .. That is the ROCHESTER economy .

The MCWA <water authority> Uses large dose Sodium Flouride in the Water .. Everyone is a ZOMBIE ...they believe everything they are told ....People here do not talk to each other about any thing ... Complete SHEEPLE !!!

This town is screwed . MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
 Quoting: Lie Detector 29710017


If you type 191 Lake Road Webster, NY in search box on Google Earth it will pin the location to a house that has the the number 181 in the steet view.

Then while in steet view proceed eastward from 181 and the sequence of house numbers are 183, 187, 189, 193, 195.

If you go back to the 181 house that's being identified as 191, proceed westwards and the house numbers are 177, 175, 171. Numbers game?
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Hmm, this does look like another attack on your right under the second amendment to keep and bear arms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11270093


Do you really think this? I think it's a break down in the American society. People are getting pissed off with toffs running the show and reeping all the rewards while the poor sods at the bottom of the pile keep getting trod on. People have had enough and now times are getting hard we will see alot more of these shooting I would imagine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30787471


These shootings are staged by TPTB to push their gun grabbing agenda.

Think about it:

- Children
- Volunteer Firemen

Who next?

The pattern is to incite a tear jerk emotional response by the general public to HATE GUNS. Then banning them will be easy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30788376


You may be totally right. I am not disagreeing with you. It is very strange all this gun shooting for sure. It's either staged or people are so fk'ed off living in this world as it is they are going ape. Who knows the truthsuicide
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Hmm, this does look like another attack on your right under the second amendment to keep and bear arms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11270093


Do you really think this? I think it's a break down in the American society. People are getting pissed off with toffs running the show and reeping all the rewards while the poor sods at the bottom of the pile keep getting trod on. People have had enough and now times are getting hard we will see alot more of these shooting I would imagine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30787471


i agree with you, i have never seen so many people so angry and so tired of the crap coming from washington.

both dems and repubs are angry. you would think that moronic dems would at least be happy that the muzz still occupies the white house? but no. i am also seeing a lot of hopelessness which goes against everything which defines an american.

i hope i am wrong, but i see big trouble ahead.
 Quoting: davvi


The same shit is going on here in the UK to be honest. Rich toffs get tax breaks of around £70,000 while the poor sods at the bottom get raped and any help they rely on taken away. It's all part of thier NWO plan i guess to turn the people against each other. Then they can claim full control over us. That's thier ultimate goal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30787471


^ i think so too. over here, democrats try to get more and more people "employed" by the government and more and more people addicted to government benefits to keep themselves in power forever. the more people depend on government the more likely they are to vote for the politician who promise more.

we taxpayers are barely able to feed ourselves with what is left in our paychecks and yet we are told we are not paying "enough." republicans aren't much better.

i think they are hoping for a revolt of some sort to make excuses for martial law. that is why they are trying desperately to take our guns.
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The 'mass' murders are staged events. We will see highly publicized shootings until a ban is in effect. This is extortion. Every shooting will be overly publicized. Part of the brainwashing.

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Ding Ding Ding this guy gets it!
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I wonder if they will put a mighty tax on buying guns. That keeps the wealthy protected but of course the poor would not be able to afford them.
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I wonder if they will put a mighty tax on buying guns. That keeps the wealthy protected but of course the poor would not be able to afford them.
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Or they could tax the ammo to fk as the guns are already in circulation.
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William Spangler, born in 1950, identified as the shooter. He killed himself at the scene.

Spangler had a lengthy criminal history...apparently killed his grandmother in the 1980s.

This is all per the latest PC.
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Spangler had a brief gunfight with the first police responders on the scene before taking his own life. The medical examiner is who said he took his own life with a gunshot to the head.
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I wonder if they will put a mighty tax on buying guns. That keeps the wealthy protected but of course the poor would not be able to afford them.
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they will put the tax on ammunition.
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Do I believe that this was some type of random shootings!!?? No!! the new world order illuminuti bankers and their bloody CIA will do false flag things like this to have more people hate guns so that they can have a legitimate reason to banish the guns and take them!!

But after these devils have tried to force everybody to take their coming mark of the beast chip; and after they have killed almost all of Gods people who wouldn't take their chip, the Great and the Almighty God of heaven will plague them for 42 months of hell on the Earth; and then He will send His Son Jesus Christ and His mighty angelic armies to the Earth to wipe them all out and have them all before His Almighty's Father Great White Throne Judgment; where they will be judged and thrown into the great lake of fire and brimstone!!
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The police chief pointed out that as a convicted felon, Spangler was not legally allowed to possess these weapons. They still haven't released what weapons and how many there were.
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If Bill Spengler did not have such easy access to those matches this sensless tragedy could have been avoided.
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rofl

If Spengler would have been executed or kept in jail where he belongs for the murder of his grandmother this would not have happened. Freaking stupid to be out after 17 years for murder. Cop shooters get hundreds of years.
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If Bill Spengler did not have such easy access to those matches this sensless tragedy could have been avoided.
 Quoting: Copperhead


rofl

If Spengler would have been executed or kept in jail where he belongs for the murder of his grandmother this would not have happened. Freaking stupid to be out after 17 years for murder. Cop shooters get hundreds of years.
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how insane we are, we give criminals more rights than we do law-abiding citizens.

leftards, you own this....
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[link to www.13wham.com]

That's the local story ...

Mr . Spangler killed his Estranged Sister in the house and set it on Fire ...along w/ the car . The fire dept bailed , and the fire raged unwarranted . 6 homes where lost . SWAT removed neighbors w/ a armed vehicle during the lock down .

He was convicted in 83' For Murdering His Grandmother . He bludgeoned her 33 times w/ a hammer .

After being released on parole in 97 ' He fell off the map .

He took care of his Mom and Sister in that house . He had told a neighbor that when his Mom passes away he would kill the useless Sister . The mom died--- and he did kill his sister..Body found in 191 Lake RD.

As well as 2 victim's responding to the initial car fire call. < They where retired cop's from the Webster township who did fire volunteering.>

This LOOKS like a Nutter that had it w/ life and was likely following through w/ a long planned murder suicide .

Killing the 1st responders was likely a bonus ...

Here is all the INFO w/ pic's

[link to www.whec.com]

I think he was ACE'd by the cops . Why else shoot at people. he probably did not want to kill himself .

Death/suicide by police .

Every law enforcement Agency in the Area Responded . Showing all the gadgets and SWAT stuff ...That guy was not gonna come out of this ALIVE .. he killed a COP ...
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THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

ENFORCE GUN CONTROL NOW
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THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

ENFORCE GUN CONTROL NOW

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bump

clappa
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[link to www.13wham.com]

That's the local story ...

Mr . Spangler killed his Estranged Sister in the house and set it on Fire ...along w/ the car . The fire dept bailed , and the fire raged unwarranted . 6 homes where lost . SWAT removed neighbors w/ a armed vehicle during the lock down .

He was convicted in 83' For Murdering His Grandmother . He bludgeoned her 33 times w/ a hammer .

After being released on parole in 97 ' He fell off the map .

He took care of his Mom and Sister in that house . He had told a neighbor that when his Mom passes away he would kill the useless Sister . The mom died--- and he did kill his sister..Body found in 191 Lake RD.

As well as 2 victim's responding to the initial car fire call. < They where retired cop's from the Webster township who did fire volunteering.>

This LOOKS like a Nutter that had it w/ life and was likely following through w/ a long planned murder suicide .

Killing the 1st responders was likely a bonus ...

Here is all the INFO w/ pic's

[link to www.whec.com]

I think he was ACE'd by the cops . Why else shoot at people. he probably did not want to kill himself .

Death/suicide by police .

Every law enforcement Agency in the Area Responded . Showing all the gadgets and SWAT stuff ...That guy was not gonna come out of this ALIVE .. he killed a COP ...
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thanks for this information.
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THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

ENFORCE GUN CONTROL NOW

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30788701


we need nut control before we need gun control. did you not read that his first victim was blungeoned with a hammer, she is just as dead as the two firefighters.
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BAN HAMMERS-PUT CARPENTERS OUT OF WORK
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BAN HAMMERS-PUT CARPENTERS OUT OF WORK
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lol, thumbs
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THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

ENFORCE GUN CONTROL NOW

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30788701


The news is amplifying these events that normally go unnoticed to make people so afraid of themselves that they will give up a very important inalienable right to self defense. Guns will never be kept out of the hands of criminals. Prohibition creates more problems than it solves every time. The amplification of these stories destroys the true sense of proportion to gun ownership/sanity to violent/insane anomalies.
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He took care of his Mom and Sister in that house . He had told a neighbor that when his Mom passes away he would kill the useless Sister . The mom died--- and he did kill his sister..Body found in 191 Lake RD.
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umm..

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GG.
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The shooter could have wanted a cop-assisted suicide and to literally go out in a blaze. Just saying.
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Have they deported piers morgan yet ?
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I'd say he'd make a fine president. Maybe a king. His royal highness King Piers, House of Morgan. Put the Yanks in their rightful place.
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This isn't NYC this is upstate. Lot of guns there trust me
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THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS.

ENFORCE GUN CONTROL NOW

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bump

clappa
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Stop Bump clapping your own post
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And since the perp wasn't allowed to buy firearms.....
I wonder if the perp did a little shopping online using that published list by a online NY NewsPaper of NY CCW permit holders (who also might own other firearms) to get his firearms????

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Audio: I'm on a mobile so the lnk might not work

[link to m.youtube.com]

Do a Webster ny firefighter search
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Satellites guarding the Spy Drones guarding the Snipers guarding Armed-Guards guarding the Firemen..... Trickle down theory?





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