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US petition to deport PIERS MORGAN over 70,000... BBC reporter says he will be ARRESTED at HEATHROW!

 
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The constitution doesn't apply to foreigners. That was made very clear in the writing of the constitution.
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Go back to 1st Grade and learn how to read. The U.S. Constitution even deals with the 'naturalization' of foreigners. But you don't know that because your can't read, but your Cat does know both how to write and type.
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I am a lawyer and I can inject some sense into this situation even if America wanted to deport Mr. Morgan ,it couldn't because it would be a fundamental violation of human rights and it would be a violation of several US laws as well as international conventions . In fact it would be legal for Mr . Morgan to sue the creators of this petition for slander among other major and minor offences.
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Right. A lawyer who can't properly form or complete a sentence or spell correctly.

As an attorney, which I'm sure you are (sarcasm), you should be well aware of another part of the 1st Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

NOTE: This applies to U.S. Citizens, not foreign nationals here on a guest/work visa.

The person who created this petition is well protected under the 1st Amendment as well as those who signed it. Mr. Morgan is not.
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you're wrong!

the person that started the petition is protected under the 1st amendment, as are all the people that signed it, as is piers morgan...
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness



Well you should be aware that the rights given to American citizens as recognized under the constitution apply to all people because it is unilaterally agreed that these are God given rights.

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So although the 1st amendment states you have the right to freedom of expression, that doesn't count if someone is using that right to express an opinion about the 2nd amendment?

I'm confused. I really am confused.

Tell me again about the bit where America is the land of the free and the just?
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Listen to the video and you'll know why Piers Morgan is a criminal in the UK. Then he lands the lead CNN job and says that Americans should change their Constitution.

The audacity is outrageous.

If an American wants to say we should change the Constitution that's one thing, but when a foreigner gets a media job on your home soil and this happens??

It doesn't matter what country... If someone from China got the lead anchor gig at the CBC and then said we should amend the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.. I would be PISSED OFF.

And that's what it's about... it's not about his freedom of expression.
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Yeah. kind of like an Illegal Kenyan saying that too.
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Give it up, fanatics.

Focus your attention on the REAL problems:

BHO
A corrupt and deceitful government
Illegal aliens
Failed parenting
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"A corrupt and deceitful government" do you guys not have guns to solve that issue. Why not use them.?

"Failed parenting" guns seem to be sorting that out right..?


"Illegal aliens" I wonder how the natives feel..? but still guns are solving the issue right...?


applause2 Guns coming to a school near you...
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Our constitution gives us the right to bear arms. That's pretty plain and simple. What part do you not get. This right is to keep us from living under the rogue government that your people enjoy. We are free thinkers, free people and we want to stay that way. What gives you the right to question any of this? Nothing, like Piers you have no rights here because we the people say so
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what do you mean rogue governments? our politicians get strung up for the slightest thing...

your government is far more authoritarian and corrupt than ours...

your guns havent been able to stop that have they?
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness

Now you got it.

your government is far more authoritarian and corrupt than ours...(your words)

That's why we have our guns.
 Quoting: myeyesropenow42


my God! you dont make sense. so if having guns is a good thing, why do you have this government? your guns havent, and cant do shit about it!
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


Prior to now they were acting on the rest of the world and we were living the life of freedom and abundance. But now that your government, along with all the others that have been put into place, have decided that a world order of their liking has been achieved they don't care about the individual freedom of a soul. I'm telling you that whatever is good in this universe has shown us true freedom and people like your kind cannot beat us down or make us forget. The plan failed and the good, the godly, are still here and it is on.
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I am a lawyer and I can inject some sense into this situation even if America wanted to deport Mr. Morgan ,it couldn't because it would be a fundamental violation of human rights and it would be a violation of several US laws as well as international conventions . In fact it would be legal for Mr . Morgan to sue the creators of this petition for slander among other major and minor offences.
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Right. A lawyer who can't properly form or complete a sentence or spell correctly.

As an attorney, which I'm sure you are (sarcasm), you should be well aware of another part of the 1st Amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

NOTE: This applies to U.S. Citizens, not foreign nationals here on a guest/work visa.

The person who created this petition is well protected under the 1st Amendment as well as those who signed it. Mr. Morgan is not.
 Quoting: CatBTX


you're wrong!

the person that started the petition is protected under the 1st amendment, as are all the people that signed it, as is piers morgan...
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness



Well you should be aware that the rights given to American citizens as recognized under the constitution apply to all people because it is unilaterally agreed that these are God given rights.

Lawyer for 13 years
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err thats exactly what i was saying!
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The petition takes aim at Morgan for his impassioned defense of proposed gun control legislation on air this week. It accuses him of launching “a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment.”
But according to immigration attorney Mark Schifanelli, it would take more than expressing an opinion on television to get Morgan booted out of the country.

The Department of Homeland Security would have the power to start a deportation process on Morgan if it was warranted, Schifanelli said, but even then, there’s no guarantee Morgan wouldn’t win the right to stay in an appeals process.

“He’s got certain rights,” Schifanelli told ABC News Monday. “Even as a foreign national in the United States, he’s afforded various rights under national security law and due process.”

What’s more, Morgan’s supposed attack on the Second Amendment is likely protected by the First Amendment. His speech would have to present “immediate danger” in order to break the law. Schifanelli said it’s unlikely Morgan’s defense of gun restrictions would meet that requirement.

But perhaps the best reason the president wouldn’t deport Morgan for advocating stricter gun laws on television is that he would be guilty of the same crime.


[link to abcnews.go.com]
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classic!
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


The only legal offense Mr. Morgan can be deported for is treason and espionage which is defined as.'

Treason is subversive of the government; there is High Treason, as well. ('treason' meaning; subversion of the rights of citizens as well).

Espionage, is snooping in violation of trust. Trust is designated by the Constitution.

Treason can be an action that is perpetuated by espionage.

American citizens are protected from charges of espionage, by the rights of the First Amendment, since it guarantees that the population of citizens are to be kept informed via a Free Press and remain active within the workings of the government.
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Deporting someone for speaking their viewpoint peacefully is anti-American. Morgan is a fool, but deporting him would set a dangerous precedent.
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^^ THIS
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hey, if john lennon can get deported, so can Piers ....



it is a bit odd though. taken off air would be a much better remedy
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How come someone doesn't just shot him?
They do that over there right?
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American don't want him harmed they just want him to go home. I kinda suspect you guys just don't want him back and that is why so many Brits are up in arms{which they don't have} defending him.
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Piers Morgan needs to sue for defamation and libel
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I am a lawyer and I can inject some sense into this situation even if America wanted to deport Mr. Morgan ,it couldn't because it would be a fundamental violation of human rights and it would be a violation of several US laws as well as international conventions . In fact it would be legal for Mr . Morgan to sue the creators of this petition for slander among other major and minor offences.
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what do you mean rogue governments? our politicians get strung up for the slightest thing...

your government is far more authoritarian and corrupt than ours...

your guns havent been able to stop that have they?
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness

Now you got it.

your government is far more authoritarian and corrupt than ours...(your words)

That's why we have our guns.
 Quoting: myeyesropenow42


my God! you dont make sense. so if having guns is a good thing, why do you have this government? your guns havent, and cant do shit about it!
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


Prior to now they were acting on the rest of the world and we were living the life of freedom and abundance. But now that your government, along with all the others that have been put into place, have decided that a world order of their liking has been achieved they don't care about the individual freedom of a soul. I'm telling you that whatever is good in this universe has shown us true freedom and people like your kind cannot beat us down or make us forget. The plan failed and the good, the godly, are still here and it is on.
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now you're speaking gibberish! you've gone way off the debate here.


people like my kind? what that despise killing and violence?

true freedom isnt won at the point of a gun its won by the point of a pen!
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he should have been indited for his role in the globe phone hacking case, but instead he just pulled the i dont remember excuse, tell teddy to fire him and send his packing back to murdoch
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I am a lawyer and I can inject some sense into this situation even if America wanted to deport Mr. Morgan ,it couldn't because it would be a fundamental violation of human rights and it would be a violation of several US laws as well as international conventions . In fact it would be legal for Mr . Morgan to sue the creators of this petition for slander among other major and minor offences.
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bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag
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Piers Morgan can sue the creators of this petition because this petition constitutes as slander against a private citizens particularly libel and defamation and any act to deport Piers Morgan would violate the universal 1st amendment and also several international conventions.
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Piers Morgan needs to sue for defamation and libel
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i dont think he would have a leg to stand on.

but there is no way on Gods great earth he will be deported for this

only a complete retard would either want or expect that...
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Look, you Brits stuck us with Russel brand. We didn't like it but we have adapted but Morgan is too much. The windbag needs to go home. We have enough condescending pretentious assholes already without a foreign invasion of smug douchebag Brits. Admit it..you just don't want him back!
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Piers should call for the UN to intervene this would be an illegal act if he gets deported on the basis of a petition.
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Look, you Brits stuck us with Russel brand. We didn't like it but we have adapted but Morgan is too much. The windbag needs to go home. We have enough condescending pretentious assholes already without a foreign invasion of smug douchebag Brits. Admit it..you just don't want him back!
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lol! well we have Madonna, take her back and you got a deal!
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Now you got it.

your government is far more authoritarian and corrupt than ours...(your words)

That's why we have our guns.
 Quoting: myeyesropenow42


my God! you dont make sense. so if having guns is a good thing, why do you have this government? your guns havent, and cant do shit about it!
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


Prior to now they were acting on the rest of the world and we were living the life of freedom and abundance. But now that your government, along with all the others that have been put into place, have decided that a world order of their liking has been achieved they don't care about the individual freedom of a soul. I'm telling you that whatever is good in this universe has shown us true freedom and people like your kind cannot beat us down or make us forget. The plan failed and the good, the godly, are still here and it is on.
 Quoting: myeyesropenow42


now you're speaking gibberish! you've gone way off the debate here.


people like my kind? what that despise killing and violence?

true freedom isnt won at the point of a gun its won by the point of a pen!
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


Killing and violence is happening everyday around this world and the majority of it is caused by governments with pens. We like our freedom, we like our guns, it's not your business, and i'm surprised you can even keep typing your garbage back
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Look, you Brits stuck us with Russel brand. We didn't like it but we have adapted but Morgan is too much. The windbag needs to go home. We have enough condescending pretentious assholes already without a foreign invasion of smug douchebag Brits. Admit it..you just don't want him back!
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lol! well we have Madonna, take her back and you got a deal!
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Uhhh...err...nevermind.
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Piers Morgan needs to sue for defamation and libel
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i dont think he would have a leg to stand on.

but there is no way on Gods great earth he will be deported for this

only a complete retard would either want or expect that...
 Quoting: higher state of consciousness


Piers would have a very good case
Please keep in mind that

If someone has made a false statement about you, you may be able to sue them for defamation of character. There are two kinds of defamation: slander, which is defamation in spoken form, and libel, or defamation in written form. Unless you are considered by the court to be a public figure or involved in a public issue, you need not prove that the defendant made the statement with the intent to harm you. You will, however, have to prove that the statement actually harmed you.
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Sorry, just got home and have not read all the pages.
Is he wanted in the U.K. ? If yes,than why isn't he being extradited ?



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Look, you Brits stuck us with Russel brand. We didn't like it but we have adapted but Morgan is too much. The windbag needs to go home. We have enough condescending pretentious assholes already without a foreign invasion of smug douchebag Brits. Admit it..you just don't want him back!
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The native Americans were saying the same thing about you 200 years ago.
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This is a classic case of using the media to scare Americans into voting for policies that are against their own interest. What are we to do when the New World Order freaks come to dismantle our country and turn us into dumbed down sitting ducks. Where is my John Wayne?
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Aprox 35 people killed in america by guns, 8 being kids. Every day, every month every single year. And you are worried about terrorism? you kill more of your own than the terrorists will ever achieve.
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how many people are killed by automobiles?

How many people, dogs, cows etc. are killed by police?

How many elderly are killed by induced death "euthanasia"?

How many are killed by legalized smoking/drinking of tobacco and booze?

How many people are killed by prescription drugs?

How many people are killed by government assassination?
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The petition takes aim at Morgan for his impassioned defense of proposed gun control legislation on air this week. It accuses him of launching “a hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution by targeting the Second Amendment.”
But according to immigration attorney Mark Schifanelli, it would take more than expressing an opinion on television to get Morgan booted out of the country.

The Department of Homeland Security would have the power to start a deportation process on Morgan if it was warranted, Schifanelli said, but even then, there’s no guarantee Morgan wouldn’t win the right to stay in an appeals process.

“He’s got certain rights,” Schifanelli told ABC News Monday. “Even as a foreign national in the United States, he’s afforded various rights under national security law and due process.”

What’s more, Morgan’s supposed attack on the Second Amendment is likely protected by the First Amendment. His speech would have to present “immediate danger” in order to break the law. Schifanelli said it’s unlikely Morgan’s defense of gun restrictions would meet that requirement.

But perhaps the best reason the president wouldn’t deport Morgan for advocating stricter gun laws on television is that he would be guilty of the same crime.


[link to abcnews.go.com]
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Aprox 35 people killed in america by guns, 8 being kids. Every day, every month every single year. And you are worried about terrorism? you kill more of your own than the terrorists will ever achieve.
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how many people are killed by automobiles?

How many people, dogs, cows etc. are killed by police?

How many elderly are killed by induced death "euthanasia"?

How many are killed by legalized smoking/drinking of tobacco and booze?

How many people are killed by prescription drugs?

How many people are killed by government assassination?
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All of those things you listed are not made to kill and are all logical fallacies
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Look, you Brits stuck us with Russel brand. We didn't like it but we have adapted but Morgan is too much. The windbag needs to go home. We have enough condescending pretentious assholes already without a foreign invasion of smug douchebag Brits. Admit it..you just don't want him back!
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The native Americans were saying the same thing about you 200 years ago.
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Try again pretend Bahamian lawyer,my family came here in 1933.
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Look, you Brits stuck us with Russel brand. We didn't like it but we have adapted but Morgan is too much. The windbag needs to go home. We have enough condescending pretentious assholes already without a foreign invasion of smug douchebag Brits. Admit it..you just don't want him back!
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The native Americans were saying the same thing about you 200 years ago.
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Yeh to the British empire
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This is a classic case of using the media to scare Americans into voting for policies that are against their own interest. What are we to do when the New World Order freaks come to dismantle our country and turn us into dumbed down sitting ducks. Where is my John Wayne?
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