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| samanthasunflower User ID: 29507233 12/24/2012 10:33 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN April 13, 2009 It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner. Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime: In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates: Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent. During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women. [link to www.ncpa.org] Last Edited by samanthasunflower on 12/24/2012 10:34 AM |
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| lemmik1900 (OP) User ID: 25587235 12/24/2012 10:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN Quoting: samanthasunflower April 13, 2009 It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner. Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime: In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates: Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent. During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women. [link to www.ncpa.org] Thank you for your input Samantha. Defenceless citizens make easy prey. |
| lemmik1900 (OP) User ID: 25587235 12/24/2012 10:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The banning of guns in the US is to make sure or atleast dcrease the amount of resistance as much as possible when martial law is declared. The reason the 2nd amendment was created was to fight against corrupt govt. Which is exactly what you guys have. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29128713 I see you understand the situation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30108220 12/24/2012 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think very little will happen here regarding gun restrictions. I tend to support some restrictions and stuff like Newtown reinforces that but then I think if they go too far and leave Americans without the ability to defend themselves against ANY threat then things could get bad quickly. Wouldn't want to see invaders like the FSA in Syria here in the US slaughtering Christians or some guy with a closeted desire for Pol Pot Maoist style government gain power and turn his sights on Americans. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24152885 12/24/2012 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN Quoting: samanthasunflower April 13, 2009 It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner. Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime: In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates: Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent. During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent. Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent. Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent. At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent. Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women. [link to www.ncpa.org] That's all fine and good, but that article describes correlation and seems to hold that up as causation, as if to say "violent crime went up when some (and yes, it was only SOME) types of guns were "banned" in Australia. One would need to delve further into any statistics that were available prior to the ban that could show the rate by which civilians successfully prevented crimes using a firearm prior to any banning. Did Australia even have concealed carry? I think not. The rape statistic then, is especially suspect, since if women did not carry guns to protect themselves from rape prior to the "ban," then the current lack of access to them cannot be held up as the cause of an increase in rapes. "Lies, damned lies, and statistics," as they say. Sorry guntards, you are really losing the public opinion war here. Personally, I live in a country that requires a safety course and background check in order to acquire a firearm, and that's just A-OK by me since that way I know the guy I'm shooting next to at the range isn't a mental defective or clueless noob. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30630593 12/24/2012 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. I was just reading this account of gun confiscation when I stumbled upon this thread. It's about Austria not Australian, however, there are significant similarities and it explains, in a first person account, of what happens when a government controls every aspect of human life. [link to blog.beliefnet.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28002595 12/24/2012 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It should be noted that in Germany in the 30's after the Nazi (National Socialist Workers mind you, not the jackboot storm troopers we think of) party took power they gave away so much free stuff and made up jobs they raised taxes on the rich and demonized the rich and Jews. Then they took up guns to make the population safe. The end result we all know. |
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| lemmik1900 (OP) User ID: 25587235 12/24/2012 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting. I was just reading this account of gun confiscation when I stumbled upon this thread. It's about Austria not Australian, however, there are significant similarities and it explains, in a first person account, of what happens when a government controls every aspect of human life. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30630593 [link to blog.beliefnet.com] Thanks for sharing that link. It is a very "eye opening" account of what this woman lived to witness in her life, when freedom and liberty is ripped away from "THE PEOPLE." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6673466 12/24/2012 11:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'mass' murders are staged events. We will see highly publicized shootings until a ban is in effect. This is extortion. Every shooting will be overly publicized. Part of the brainwashing. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
| lemmik1900 (OP) User ID: 25587235 12/24/2012 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'mass' murders are staged events. We will see highly publicized shootings until a ban is in effect. This is extortion. Every shooting will be overly publicized. Part of the brainwashing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6673466 [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I do believe the part where you state that all shootings will now be overly publicized. It suits the gun ban adgenda. |
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