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The results of banning guns in Australia

 
lemmik1900
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
The result has been no more mass shootings.
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The result has been no more mass shootings.
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Correct.
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
The result has been no more mass shootings.
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More home invasions.
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
Has anyone conducted a poll on the preferred murder weapon among murder victims?
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Has anyone conducted a poll on the preferred murder weapon among murder victims?
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Thats a very interesting question.
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Has anyone conducted a poll on the preferred murder weapon among murder victims?
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Thats a very interesting question.
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Maybe the assailants have a preference.
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AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

April 13, 2009

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

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The banning of guns in the US is to make sure or atleast dcrease the amount of resistance as much as possible when martial law is declared. The reason the 2nd amendment was created was to fight against corrupt govt. Which is exactly what you guys have.
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AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

April 13, 2009

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

[link to www.ncpa.org]
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Thank you for your input Samantha.
Defenceless citizens make easy prey.
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
The banning of guns in the US is to make sure or atleast dcrease the amount of resistance as much as possible when martial law is declared. The reason the 2nd amendment was created was to fight against corrupt govt. Which is exactly what you guys have.
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I see you understand the situation.
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I think very little will happen here regarding gun restrictions. I tend to support some restrictions and stuff like Newtown reinforces that but then I think if they go too far and leave Americans without the ability to defend themselves against ANY threat then things could get bad quickly. Wouldn't want to see invaders like the FSA in Syria here in the US slaughtering Christians or some guy with a closeted desire for Pol Pot Maoist style government gain power and turn his sights on Americans.
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

April 13, 2009

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

[link to www.ncpa.org]
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


That's all fine and good, but that article describes correlation and seems to hold that up as causation, as if to say "violent crime went up when some (and yes, it was only SOME) types of guns were "banned" in Australia. One would need to delve further into any statistics that were available prior to the ban that could show the rate by which civilians successfully prevented crimes using a firearm prior to any banning.

Did Australia even have concealed carry? I think not. The rape statistic then, is especially suspect, since if women did not carry guns to protect themselves from rape prior to the "ban," then the current lack of access to them cannot be held up as the cause of an increase in rapes.

"Lies, damned lies, and statistics," as they say. Sorry guntards, you are really losing the public opinion war here. Personally, I live in a country that requires a safety course and background check in order to acquire a firearm, and that's just A-OK by me since that way I know the guy I'm shooting next to at the range isn't a mental defective or clueless noob.
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
Interesting. I was just reading this account of gun confiscation when I stumbled upon this thread. It's about Austria not Australian, however, there are significant similarities and it explains, in a first person account, of what happens when a government controls every aspect of human life.
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
It should be noted that in Germany in the 30's after the Nazi (National Socialist Workers mind you, not the jackboot storm troopers we think of) party took power they gave away so much free stuff and made up jobs they raised taxes on the rich and demonized the rich and Jews. Then they took up guns to make the population safe. The end result we all know.
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When it was time to take away possessions and rearrange society the storm trooper jackboot Nazi's came along and nobody has any means to resist.
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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
Interesting. I was just reading this account of gun confiscation when I stumbled upon this thread. It's about Austria not Australian, however, there are significant similarities and it explains, in a first person account, of what happens when a government controls every aspect of human life.
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Thanks for sharing that link. It is a very "eye opening" account of what this woman lived to witness in her life, when freedom and liberty is ripped away from "THE PEOPLE."
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The 'mass' murders are staged events. We will see highly publicized shootings until a ban is in effect. This is extortion. Every shooting will be overly publicized. Part of the brainwashing.

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Re: The results of banning guns in Australia
The 'mass' murders are staged events. We will see highly publicized shootings until a ban is in effect. This is extortion. Every shooting will be overly publicized. Part of the brainwashing.

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I do believe the part where you state that all shootings will now be overly publicized.
It suits the gun ban adgenda.
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Has boomerang violence seen a dramatic increase?

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