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She survived Hitler and wants to warn America

 
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A lesson from history:

Kitty Werthmann survived Hitler.

“What I am about to tell you is something you’ve probably never heard or read in history books,” she likes to tell audiences.

“I am a witness to history. I cannot tell you that Hitler took Austria by tanks and guns; it would distort history. “We voted him in.”.
“No more freedom of speech. Anyone who said something against the government was taken away. We knew many people who were arrested, not only Jews, but also priests and ministers who spoke up.

Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.

“Totalitarianism didn’t come quickly, it took 5 years from 1938 until 1943, to realize full dictatorship in Austria. Had it happened overnight, my countrymen would have fought to the last breath. Instead, we had creeping gradualism. Now, our only weapons were broom handles. The whole idea sounds almost unbelievable that the state, little by little eroded our freedom.”

“This is my eye-witness account.

“It’s true. Those of us who sailed past the Statue of Liberty came to a country of unbelievable freedom and opportunity.

“America is truly is the greatest country in the world.

“Don’t let freedom slip away.

“After America, there is no place to go.”
Sounds familiar,
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Some people are VERY slow learners.

Jewish groups push for action on gun control

By Ron Kampeas · December 18, 2012

President Obama attends the Sandy Hook interfaith vigil at Newtown High School in Newtown, Conn., Dec. 16, 2012. (Pete Souza / White House)

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- In the wake of the shooting rampage in Newtown, Conn., Jewish groups are looking to build alliances and back legislation to strengthen gun control laws.

[link to www.jta.org]

Dum de dum dum...
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At least not all Jewish people are for control measures.

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Some people are VERY slow learners.

Jewish groups push for action on gun control

By Ron Kampeas · December 18, 2012

President Obama attends the Sandy Hook interfaith vigil at Newtown High School in Newtown, Conn., Dec. 16, 2012. (Pete Souza / White House)

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- In the wake of the shooting rampage in Newtown, Conn., Jewish groups are looking to build alliances and back legislation to strengthen gun control laws.

[link to www.jta.org]

Dum de dum dum...
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Well they might think that is correct..But CONTROL is NOT the answer. Regardless of faith we must learn from history.
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At least not all Jewish people are for control measures.

[link to jpfo.org]
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Well that site is Quite interesting.
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Hitler was a Good Leader.
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Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
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What a liar. Nothing of the kind happened.
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Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
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What a liar. Nothing of the kind happened.
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Yeah, Hitler Never Disarmed his People, that is a Jewish Lie.
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Hitler was a Good Leader.
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Hitler did do some good things ..BUT was shadowed by cults and nut jobs with their own agendas. History is rewritten EVERYDAY..we may never know the truth what transpired there and the causes of his actions. Just like his father Frankenberger of Graz in Austria we are shrouded in the fog of history.
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Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
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What a liar. Nothing of the kind happened.
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WRONGO:
[link to usa-the-republic.com]
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Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
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What a liar. Nothing of the kind happened.
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Yeah, Hitler Never Disarmed his People, that is a Jewish Lie.
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You too..LEARN history..

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Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
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What a liar. Nothing of the kind happened.
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WRONGO:
[link to usa-the-republic.com]
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Another jewish liar. Germans were not banned from owning weapons. Jews were.
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Then they took our guns

“Next came gun registration. People were getting injured by guns. Hitler said that the real way to catch criminals (we still had a few) was by matching serial numbers on guns. Most citizens were law abiding and dutifully marched to the police station to register their firearms. Not long afterwards, the police said that it was best for everyone to turn in their guns. The authorities already knew who had them, so it was futile not to comply voluntarily.
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What a liar. Nothing of the kind happened.
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WRONGO:
[link to usa-the-republic.com]
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Another jewish liar. Germans were not banned from owning weapons. Jews were.
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This post is about history and the removal of guns from society and not about the Jewish people..
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What a liar. Nothing of the kind happened.
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WRONGO:
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Another jewish liar. Germans were not banned from owning weapons. Jews were.
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This post is about history and the removal of guns from society and not about the Jewish people..
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Ok. Then don't spread these untruths. Where are the stories about Lenin and Stalin disarming russians? Those are the guys who really killed their own population. Hitlers dead were a result of war.
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Hitler was a Good Leader.
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The truth about Nazi Gun Grabbers!

With gun owners increasingly aware of the Jewish leadership of the gun-banning
movement, a group of Jews in Milwaukee claiming to be defenders of the Second
Amendment have been noisily denouncing gun control as a "Nazi" scheme. The group,
calling themselves Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, assert that Adolf
Hitler was the father of all gun grabbers. The proof of this, they claim, was the German
Weapons Law (Waffengesetz) of March 18, 1938, which was enacted by Germany's
National Socialist government. They have succeeded in persuading at least one magazine
read by firearms enthusiasts to publicize their claims repeatedly (Guns and Ammo, May
1993 and March 1994).

The truth of the matter is that the 1938 German law specifically provided for the ownership
and carrying of firearms, including handguns, by law-abiding German citizens. Jews, of
course, were not German citizens -- the National Socialists defined citizenship in ethnic
terms -- and the law specifically barred Jews from having any role in the manufacture of
firearms or ammunition or from being firearms dealers (but not from purchasing or owning
firearms).

The German law certainly was not an ideal one from the viewpoint of today's beleaguered
American patriot, because it did have certain licensing requirements. A permit
(Waffenerwerbschein) was required to buy a handgun (but not a long gun), and a separate
license (Waffenschein), good for three years, was required to carry any firearm in public.
Actually, the German law was less restrictive than most state and local laws in the United
States were before the current campaign to nullify the Second Amendment shifted into high
gear in 1993. More significantly, it ameliorated a law which had been enacted ten years
earlier by a Left-Center government hostile to the National Socialists (the government
headed by Wilhelm Marx and consisting of a coalition of Socialists and Catholic Centrists).
The 1938 law irritated the Jews by pointedly excluding them from the firearms business,
but it clearly was not a law aimed at preventing the ownership or use of firearms, including
handguns, for either sporting or self-defense purposes by German citizens. As noted
above, it actually relaxed or eliminated the provisions of a pre-existing law.


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Some people are VERY slow learners.

Jewish groups push for action on gun control

By Ron Kampeas · December 18, 2012

President Obama attends the Sandy Hook interfaith vigil at Newtown High School in Newtown, Conn., Dec. 16, 2012. (Pete Souza / White House)

WASHINGTON (JTA) -- In the wake of the shooting rampage in Newtown, Conn., Jewish groups are looking to build alliances and back legislation to strengthen gun control laws.

[link to www.jta.org]

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The truth about Nazi Gun Grabbers!

With gun owners increasingly aware of the Jewish leadership of the gun-banning
movement, a group of Jews in Milwaukee claiming to be defenders of the Second
Amendment have been noisily denouncing gun control as a "Nazi" scheme. The group,
calling themselves Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership, assert that Adolf
Hitler was the father of all gun grabbers. The proof of this, they claim, was the German
Weapons Law (Waffengesetz) of March 18, 1938, which was enacted by Germany's
National Socialist government. They have succeeded in persuading at least one magazine
read by firearms enthusiasts to publicize their claims repeatedly (Guns and Ammo, May
1993 and March 1994).

The truth of the matter is that the 1938 German law specifically provided for the ownership
and carrying of firearms, including handguns, by law-abiding German citizens. Jews, of
course, were not German citizens -- the National Socialists defined citizenship in ethnic
terms -- and the law specifically barred Jews from having any role in the manufacture of
firearms or ammunition or from being firearms dealers (but not from purchasing or owning
firearms).

The German law certainly was not an ideal one from the viewpoint of today's beleaguered
American patriot, because it did have certain licensing requirements. A permit
(Waffenerwerbschein) was required to buy a handgun (but not a long gun), and a separate
license (Waffenschein), good for three years, was required to carry any firearm in public.
Actually, the German law was less restrictive than most state and local laws in the United
States were before the current campaign to nullify the Second Amendment shifted into high
gear in 1993. More significantly, it ameliorated a law which had been enacted ten years
earlier by a Left-Center government hostile to the National Socialists (the government
headed by Wilhelm Marx and consisting of a coalition of Socialists and Catholic Centrists).
The 1938 law irritated the Jews by pointedly excluding them from the firearms business,
but it clearly was not a law aimed at preventing the ownership or use of firearms, including
handguns, for either sporting or self-defense purposes by German citizens. As noted
above, it actually relaxed or eliminated the provisions of a pre-existing law.

The facts, in brief, are these:

* The National Socialist government of Germany did not fear its citizens. Adolf Hitler was
the most popular leader Germany has ever had.

* The spirit of National Socialism was one of manliness, and individual self-defense and
self-reliance were central to the National Socialist view of the way a citizen should behave.
The notion of banning firearms ownership was alien to National Socialism.

* Gun registration and licensing (for long guns as well as for handguns) were legislated by
an anti-National Socialist government in Germany five years before the National Socialists
gained power. Five years after they gained power they got around to rewriting the gun law
enacted by their predecessors, substantially ameliorating it in the process (for example,
long guns were exempted from the requirement for a purchase permit; the legal age for gun
ownership was lowered from 20 to 18 years; and the period of validity of a permit to carry
weapons was extended from one to three years). They may be criticized for leaving certain
restrictions and licensing requirements in the law, but they had no intention of preventing
law-abiding Germans from keeping or bearing arms.

The highlights of the 1938 German Weapons Law (which in its entirety fills 12 pages of the
Reichsgesetzblatt with legalese), especially as it applied to ordinary citizens rather than
manufacturers or dealers, follow:

* Handguns may be sold or purchased only on submission of a Weapons Acquisition
Permit (Waffenerwerbschein), which must be used within one year from the date of issue.
Muzzle-loading handguns are exempted from the permit requirement.

* Holders of a permit to carry weapons (Waffenschein) or of a hunting license do not need
a Weapons Acquisition Permit in order to acquire a handgun.

* A hunting license authorizes its bearer to carry hunting weapons and handguns.

* Firearms and ammunition, as well as swords and knives, may not be sold to minors
under the age of 18 years.

* Whoever carries a firearm outside of his dwelling, his place of employment, his place of
business, or his fenced property must have on his person a Weapons Permit
(Waffenschein). A permit is not required, however, for carrying a firearm for use at a
police-approved shooting range.

* A permit to acquire a handgun or to carry firearms may only be issued to persons whose
trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a permit. In particular, a
permit may not be issued to:

1. persons under the age of 18 years;

2. legally incompetent or mentally retarded persons;

3. Gypsies or vagabonds;

4. persons under mandatory police supervision (i.e., on parole) or otherwise temporarily
without civil rights;

5. persons convicted of treason or high treason or known to be engaged in activities hostile
to the state;

6. persons who for assault, trespass, a breach of the peace, resistance to authority, a
criminal offense or misdemeanor, or a hunting or fishing violation, were legally sentenced to
a term of imprisonment of more than two weeks, if three years have not passed since the
term of imprisonment.

* The manufacture, sale, carrying, possession, and import of the following are prohibited:

1. "trick" firearms, designed so as to conceal their function (e.g., cane guns and belt-buckle
pistols);

2. any firearm equipped with a silencer and any rifle equipped with a spotlight;

3. cartridges with .22 caliber, hollow-point bullets.

That is the essence. Numerous other provisions of the law relate to firearms manufacturers,
importers, and dealers; to acquisition and carrying of firearms by police, military, and other
official personnel; to the maximum fees which can be charged for permits (3 Reichsmarks);
to tourists bringing firearms into Germany; and to the fines and other penalties to be levied
for violations. (A full text and translation of these German gun laws is available from
National Vanguard Books, PO Box 330, Hillsboro WV 24946 USA, for $14 postpaid.)

The requirements of "trustworthiness" and of proof of need when obtaining a permit are
troubling, but it should be noted that they were simply carried over from the 1928 law:
they were not formulated by the National Socialists. Under the National Socialists, these
requirements were interpreted liberally: a person who did not fall into one of the prohibited
categories listed above was considered trustworthy, and a statement such as, "I often carry
sums of money," was accepted as proof of need.

The prohibitions of spotlight-equipped rifles and hollow-point .22 caliber ammunition were
based on considerations that the former were unsporting when used for hunting, and the
latter were inhumane.

It was not until 1945, when the communist and democratic victors of the Second World
War had installed occupation governments to rule over the conquered Germans that
German citizens were denied the right to armed self-defense.

Despite these facts, there are a number of people among those who support Second
Amendment rights who have fallen for the Jewish trick of associating gun-grabbing with
Hitler and the National Socialists. These people sometimes make such statements as, "The
first thing Hitler did when he came to power was round up all the guns." Such statements
are demonstrably false, and when they are made by a person who genuinely supports
Second Amendment rights they reveal the person's ignorance or dishonesty. When they
are made by a Jewish group it is clear that their intent is to confuse the public and
deceitfully deflect blame from their fellow Jews.

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National Vangard:
The magazine covers issues from a White Nationalist perspective. NAZI propaganda machine..what did you expect of their slant on the 1938 gun law..According to the Mag which used to be called "ATTACK".

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Agree. It's Nazi Germany all over again.....
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Another jewish liar. Germans were not banned from owning weapons. Jews were.
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This post is about history and the removal of guns from society and not about the Jewish people..
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Ok. Then don't spread these untruths. Where are the stories about Lenin and Stalin disarming russians? Those are the guys who really killed their own population. Hitlers dead were a result of war.
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Gun Control Hall of Fame:
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Another jewish liar. Germans were not banned from owning weapons. Jews were.
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This post is about history and the removal of guns from society and not about the Jewish people..


Ok. Then don't spread these untruths. Where are the stories about Lenin and Stalin disarming russians? Those ar
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ys who really killed their own population. Hitlers dead were a result of war.

Gun Control Hall of Fame:
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By Jews for the Preservation of Fir
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Jewish liars.
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At least not all Jewish people are for control measures.

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controlled opposition.
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so this story shows an 11 year old to be politically aware and well informed. sounds legit
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so this story shows an 11 year old to be politically aware and well informed. sounds legit
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One may be surprised who knew what in that era.
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Except that now Germany (no longer ruled by a dictator) is a better place to live. The Nazis simply relocated to the U.S. and the Bush family is at the helm of the takeover.
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so this story shows an 11 year old to be politically aware and well informed. sounds legit
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More so than you are, obviously.
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At least not all Jewish people are for control measures.

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a shitty website? yeah..

why dont you look up your jews in the government and figure the truth out?
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Something is better than nothing, pay attention, it's still free. Lead by example.
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This might sound fucked up.

But i"m starting to believe that if Hitlers armies won. We would be living in a better world.

It would be builded on blood and tears, but is this society any better?

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