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NY Paper publishes list of CCW permit holders!!

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 01:35 PM
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Oh man this is really bad, I can not believe they did this- another sign that our govt. has lost control and the constitution is going, going, gone...sigh
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Point is, the Creator Endowed right to keep and bear arms stands, whether open carry or concealed carry. In neither case permission aka permits are an infringement upon all Creator Endowed Rights.

Have the damned PERMIT in the first place? Isn't that itself an Infringement?

Just like the Marriage License, the PERMIT to marry.
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Nail hits head.
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Permit to Marry Concealed.
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haha that's called common law marriage.
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12/24/2012 01:40 PM
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I believe this is the original article. The guy, a retired police officer, is more or less blaming the mother for the Connecticut shooting.

[link to www.lohud.com]
 Quoting: 008-80


"In May, Richard V. Wilson approached a female neighbor on the street and shot her in the back of the head, a crime that stunned their quiet Katonah neighborhood.

What was equally shocking for some was the revelation that the mentally disturbed 77-year-old man had amassed a cache of weapons — including two unregistered handguns and a large amount of ammunition — without any neighbors knowing."


Wilson could just as easily used a titanium knitting needle and drove it quickly into this woman's eye and right into her brain, or just at that back lower base of her skull. No gun needed, no knife, no ax, no spear, no bomb. He could have as easily used a screw driver or a hammer.

Would the neighbor have been any less stunned had he used a knitting needle? Ah, but for the anti-gun fanatics the megaphone of a stunned neighborhood would have been a one published event and quickly forgotten.
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12/24/2012 01:43 PM

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What that rag may not understand is criminals have access to the internet too and if they get ahold of something like this, they will know who NOT to fuck with. It'd be so easy for them to do their evil if they knew who owned guns and who doesn't. Just avoid the addresses that have permits and CCW's to ensure your target will be a helpless victim. If the victim has a gun and it's not registered, they go to jail, so technically it would be criminal on criminal crime. People whose addresses aren't on that list are pretty much in danger of an armed criminal targeting them now.
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Good. I carry to keep you freaks on notice.

Hell, I'd wear a neon sign that says "WARNING-ARMED AND TRAINED! DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID, DIPSHIT!" If I could.

Publish it. Tell them to tell their friends. This dude is not a victim.
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Well, just don't ever plan on leaving your home now though, because if if it 'published' information that you have guns there, it will be a target for theft.
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Law of Un-Intended Consequences...I kept telling folks blabbing on & on about "Transparency" and the FOIA

That shits done come round to bite yall in the ass..Ha Ha!!
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We need even more LAWs, damn-it,

So that we can have even more and more Unintended consequences so we can make even more laws to produce even more unintended consequences so we can make even more laws...
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Ah Christ!

1doh1

Here we go! Un-fucking-believable. Can't depend on the media these days for anything but utter stupidity!

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12/24/2012 01:48 PM
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How many of those you suspect are law enforcement.
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Cops don't a CCW.
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Grew a brain.

Uniform Cops open carry .. but many of them also carry a CCW backup.

Many under cover detectives (aka another form of Cops) go full CCW.
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How many of those you suspect are law enforcement.
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Cops don't a CCW.
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Grew a brain.

Uniform Cops open carry .. but many of them also carry a CCW backup.

Many under cover detectives (aka another form of Cops) go full CCW.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


Exactly. I have friends and family who are LEO's and they are required to carry at all times. So CCW is a requirement for them to even have the job. Believing the police don't have CCW's is just plain idiotic, this isn't the UK or New Zealand.
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12/24/2012 01:55 PM
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I apologize if I'm being redundant because I didn't read through 5 pages of messages, but it wouldn't bother me at all. Hopefully, the thugs read the paper and now know to avoid my house. Win-Win.
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12/24/2012 01:59 PM
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Oh great, I bet the burglar/home invader types are going to have a field day with this one.

A criminal picks out a house and then for some extra insurance that the occupants of said house won't be able to defend their property/lives, he can just check the map.

Something like this could very well revolutionize the burglary industry in such counties. Great day to be a criminal.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


How stupid that post is.

I guess only CCW even are the only ones to have weapons in their houses, eh?

Its a laugh a minute around here.
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12/24/2012 02:00 PM
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Why should CCW permit holders be public record ?
 Quoting: Omniscient1


Why not?

How about Drivers Lic. ?

Marriage / Death certs. ?

Property taxes / real estate deeds ?

My & other public servants salaries ?

I can go on, but first why do you think CWP holders are any better?
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Add in Permit to Carry Explosives, to that list.
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12/24/2012 02:03 PM
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This the problem with permits.

You already HAVE a permit it's called the 2ND AMENDMENT.

Stop asking the government for permission to do things you already have a right to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29158753


The 2nd is not a PERMIT. Again, a laugh a minute.

And it is not even a PERMIT for the Fed Gov to infringe Creator Endowed Rights.

In fact the 2nd is a RESTRAINT upon the Fed Gov, not on the People.
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12/24/2012 02:06 PM
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It took less than five minutes to find the home address of that newspaper's President/Editor.

Perhaps the NRA should post her personal information. Because it's all public record...
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12/24/2012 02:08 PM
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They just put at risk everyone who doesn't own a gun.

Now I'm feeling to GET ONE ASAP.

Nice work, idiots.
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There are many people who have guns who don't have CCW permits.
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It took less than five minutes to find the home address of that newspaper's President/Editor.

Perhaps the NRA should post her personal information. Because it's all public record...
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DO IT!!!!!!
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12/24/2012 02:12 PM
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sorry for my ignorance in the matters, but if you have a 2nd amendment that already permits you to carry weapons, why should you register?
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The 2nd is not a PERMIT.. it is a RESTRAINT on the Fed Gov. The 2nd is a simple declaration and acknowledgement of what is a Creator Endowed (or Naturally Endowed) Human Right.

You know, like Gravity is a natural power, or a Creator endowed Power.
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So you are "Ok" with posting public records as long as it is about somebody famous or some poor smuck that got arrested(Mug Shot) but was later found "Not Guilty"...and what about the guy from the 1996 Olympic bombing?...all that's "OK" huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


a "famous" person has no expectation of privacy, a private citizen does. what part of that don't you understand?
 Quoting: davvi


15,000 people converge on you 'oh, private person', start videoing you, going through you garabage, posting it all on FB, you are now a "Famous Person".. don't you see the illogic of your argument? By such methods you are transformed from 'private person with an expectation of privacy into a public 'famous' person, it happens every day of the week.

Its not really what 'should be' but rather 'what is'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


oh please, are you trying to tell me that actors and assorted celebrities are not trying to be "famous?"

i said that a person has the expectation of privacy, i did NOT say that everyone will respect that privacy.
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Opps.. EXPECTATION of privacy.. but once the public makes a person 'famous'.. many wanna be Famous self pronounced and self announce often end up totally ignored, and so have by defact an expectation of privacy.. what furiates them is that they can't get the public to grant them the expectation of public acclaim.

But yeah, I see your point.
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12/24/2012 02:18 PM
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Soon you will see a new map showing where all INFIDELS reside!
Oh yeah! They will, and the Mahdi Obama will be the one to enforce it.yoda
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Get over yourself.
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ALL I CAN SAY IS PEOPLE VOTED FOR THESE DUMB FUCKS!!!!!!

Write now we are a country DIVIDED! Right down the middle.

and as long as people keep voting for these TOOTIE FRUITY PEDDLING FAGOTS. THIS IS THE SILLY BILLY MENTALITY YOUR GOING TO BE CONTINUALLY FED!

We told you so!!!!
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Good. I carry to keep you freaks on notice.

Hell, I'd wear a neon sign that says "WARNING-ARMED AND TRAINED! DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID, DIPSHIT!" If I could.

Publish it. Tell them to tell their friends. This dude is not a victim.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


Well, just don't ever plan on leaving your home now though, because if if it 'published' information that you have guns there, it will be a target for theft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30630593


You must not own a weapon. Mine make my house a fortress. You're not getting in here. Bet your life on it.

I'm not looking for trouble, but your tax dollars paid for me to be classically trained. You come after me or mine...man.....I'll have your homies pouring out forties and your momma explaining to the news how you were just turning your life around.

Take that shit to the bank.
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You're either just plain stupid or on the doll,...which is it?
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It was a joke, fuckwad.

Kinda.
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12/24/2012 02:29 PM
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Ah Christ!

1doh1

Here we go! Un-fucking-believable. Can't depend on the media these days for anything but utter stupidity!

putin
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Yeah, and the Internet also has A MEDIA... and is equally stupid.
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12/24/2012 02:34 PM
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We are going into phase II from the culture war to a civil war.
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We are going into phase II from the culture war to a civil war.
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no way.. the culture war has been going on for hundreds of years.. rarely gets to civil war state. Just because you want to shill for Civil War doesn't make it work.
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People who are NOT on that list should be worried
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Yes.
Because criminals will be looking at the list & checking it twice to rob all the people who are not on it.
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1

They are now targets..NOT cool.
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Although armed targets
everything in its right place
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1

They are now targets..NOT cool.
 Quoting: THE INQUISADOR


verysad
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We are going into phase II from the culture war to a civil war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28613082


no way.. the culture war has been going on for hundreds of years.. rarely gets to civil war state. Just because you want to shill for Civil War doesn't make it work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


Life is still fairly good in the US due to unemployment compensation among other things. I do not think there will be civil war, but I do think our government is setting the stage for American Rebels or helping some type of movement along. Civil war perhaps may be a growth from a rebel movement. Remember, government is "MANAGEMENT." An agenda is thought out, planned and put into place. I would still, though, like to know why the DHS ordered so much ammo.
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We are going into phase II from the culture war to a civil war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28613082


no way.. the culture war has been going on for hundreds of years.. rarely gets to civil war state. Just because you want to shill for Civil War doesn't make it work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


You use shill way too much. I think you are a shill for shills.
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I thought I had to be wrong, but no!


Original article:

[link to amiglobalsecurity.com]


The map:

[link to www.lohud.com]


You know this means that other papers are going to do the same, right?
 Quoting: suvalley


oh my...i smell a massive lawsuit...and remember under obama care....all ur medicals and financial stuff is in a central registery....like to see how secure they become????
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Didn't Hitler do something similar? Looks like the Nazis are a little scared! Every American citizen should have at least two guns, and not toy-shooters either!
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1

They are now targets..NOT cool.
 Quoting: THE INQUISADOR


Although armed targets
 Quoting: Philligan


Exactly!

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