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NY Paper publishes list of CCW permit holders!!

 
Uncle Mikey

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12/24/2012 12:45 PM
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1


So you are "Ok" with posting public records as long as it is about somebody famous or some poor smuck that got arrested(Mug Shot) but was later found "Not Guilty"...and what about the guy from the 1996 Olympic bombing?...all that's "OK" huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


If you rape babies ya I want your name posted, these people have commited no crime and had they of they would probably not hold that permit...
 Quoting: Omniscient1




But what if person accused you of such, you get arrested, name & mug shot on the Tele and in print....but 2 days later, it's proven you were out of the country at the time...soo you are OK with that?
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This is about 'pre-crime'... before being accused of anything... much less being arrested.
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12/24/2012 12:46 PM
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Now you can see why the Zionist placed their people in large cities. They are now implementing their agenda onto America.
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12/24/2012 12:50 PM
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I thought I had to be wrong, but no!


Original article:

[link to amiglobalsecurity.com]


The map:

[link to www.lohud.com]


You know this means that other papers are going to do the same, right?
 Quoting: suvalley


It's a matter of public record, but still.

They did the same thing in Tennessee years and years ago. Kind pissed me and the wife off as, you know, there we were listed in the paper.

On balance, the newspapers are too liberal for my taste. I never buy 'em. Don't watch MSM either though.
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12/24/2012 12:52 PM
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Good. I carry to keep you freaks on notice.

Hell, I'd wear a neon sign that says "WARNING-ARMED AND TRAINED! DON'T DO ANYTHING STUPID, DIPSHIT!" If I could.

Publish it. Tell them to tell their friends. This dude is not a victim.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


Well, just don't ever plan on leaving your home now though, because if if it 'published' information that you have guns there, it will be a target for theft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30630593


You must not own a weapon. Mine make my house a fortress. You're not getting in here. Bet your life on it.

I'm not looking for trouble, but your tax dollars paid for me to be classically trained. You come after me or mine...man.....I'll have your homies pouring out forties and your momma explaining to the news how you were just turning your life around.

Take that shit to the bank.
 Quoting: LunaticFringe


You're either just plain stupid or on the doll,...which is it?
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 12:55 PM
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Oh great, I bet the burglar/home invader types are going to have a field day with this one.

A criminal picks out a house and then for some extra insurance that the occupants of said house won't be able to defend their property/lives, he can just check the map.

Something like this could very well revolutionize the burglary industry in such counties. Great day to be a criminal.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


THIS is what I've been trying to say.
Not only is this a HUGE violation, it will, most likely, cause crime to rise amongst those who own guns and can't stay home all the time to defend what they have, and against those who do not own guns, which may easy prey now that there is a handy list from which to choose.
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12/24/2012 12:57 PM
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Oh man this is really bad, I can not believe they did this- another sign that our govt. has lost control and the constitution is going, going, gone...sigh
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Point is, the Creator Endowed right to keep and bear arms stands, whether open carry or concealed carry. In neither case permission aka permits are an infringement upon all Creator Endowed Rights.

Have the damned PERMIT in the first place? Isn't that itself an Infringement?

Just like the Marriage License, the PERMIT to marry.
davvi

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12/24/2012 12:57 PM
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1


So you are "Ok" with posting public records as long as it is about somebody famous or some poor smuck that got arrested(Mug Shot) but was later found "Not Guilty"...and what about the guy from the 1996 Olympic bombing?...all that's "OK" huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


a "famous" person has no expectation of privacy, a private citizen does. what part of that don't you understand?
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 12:58 PM
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So, honestly, if we take this one step further, some could say that it was stupid for anyone to obtain so called' legal permission' to defend their own lives.
The
permission' coming from a totally corrupt gov in the first place, makes one wonder.............
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Oh man this is really bad, I can not believe they did this- another sign that our govt. has lost control and the constitution is going, going, gone...sigh
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Point is, the Creator Endowed right to keep and bear arms stands, whether open carry or concealed carry. In neither case permission aka permits are an infringement upon all Creator Endowed Rights.

Have the damned PERMIT in the first place? Isn't that itself an Infringement?

Just like the Marriage License, the PERMIT to marry.
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Nail hits head.
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12/24/2012 01:01 PM
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Incredibly wreck less. I'm certain though, there are many, many others packing heat. Most of the criminal element and others that simply never got a permit. The map imho would be completely red.
 Quoting: PokerFace


Where's the corresponding map of ALL firearms 'known' to be in possession of the People? All, what, 260 Million firearms.. of course its really no one's business who has what arms period.

What I want to know is those (outside of active duty) who have a PERMIT to kill, that is a License to Kill.
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Oh man this is really bad, I can not believe they did this- another sign that our govt. has lost control and the constitution is going, going, gone...sigh
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Point is, the Creator Endowed right to keep and bear arms stands, whether open carry or concealed carry. In neither case permission aka permits are an infringement upon all Creator Endowed Rights.

Have the damned PERMIT in the first place? Isn't that itself an Infringement?

Just like the Marriage License, the PERMIT to marry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246



Nail hits head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30630593


Permit to Marry Concealed.
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12/24/2012 01:05 PM
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1


So you are "Ok" with posting public records as long as it is about somebody famous or some poor smuck that got arrested(Mug Shot) but was later found "Not Guilty"...and what about the guy from the 1996 Olympic bombing?...all that's "OK" huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


a "famous" person has no expectation of privacy, a private citizen does. what part of that don't you understand?
 Quoting: davvi


15,000 people converge on you 'oh, private person', start videoing you, going through you garabage, posting it all on FB, you are now a "Famous Person".. don't you see the illogic of your argument? By such methods you are transformed from 'private person with an expectation of privacy into a public 'famous' person, it happens every day of the week.

Its not really what 'should be' but rather 'what is'.
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12/24/2012 01:13 PM
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That's just showing which peoples houses not to fuck with.
 Quoting: DooMCooN 1266067



Wrong, unfortunately!

This irresponsible reporting has just shown the criminal element where they need to go and who to target to obtain firearms that will be used to commit crimes against innocent people!

If just one of these homes is burglarized and a firearm stolen and then used in a crime where a person is injured, then the paper that published this information should be held CRIMINALLY and civilly liable!
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 01:14 PM
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Concealed weapon: The Belt under your coat that can be used to garrott some fool. The ball point pen, in your inner coat pocket that can be shoved into the temple of another poor fool. The cell phone in your pocket tied and linked remotely via public cell towers to a remote bomb's trigger (is that a concealed weapon?). But hey, lets only worry about Firearms and Knives... right?

Its better to just ASSUME that everyone is carrying a weapon at all times. One reason to treat everyone with Respect.
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12/24/2012 01:15 PM
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sorry for my ignorance in the matters, but if you have a 2nd amendment that already permits you to carry weapons, why should you register?
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1


So you are "Ok" with posting public records as long as it is about somebody famous or some poor smuck that got arrested(Mug Shot) but was later found "Not Guilty"...and what about the guy from the 1996 Olympic bombing?...all that's "OK" huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


a "famous" person has no expectation of privacy, a private citizen does. what part of that don't you understand?
 Quoting: davvi


15,000 people converge on you 'oh, private person', start videoing you, going through you garabage, posting it all on FB, you are now a "Famous Person".. don't you see the illogic of your argument? By such methods you are transformed from 'private person with an expectation of privacy into a public 'famous' person, it happens every day of the week.

Its not really what 'should be' but rather 'what is'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


oh please, are you trying to tell me that actors and assorted celebrities are not trying to be "famous?"

i said that a person has the expectation of privacy, i did NOT say that everyone will respect that privacy.
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12/24/2012 01:17 PM
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Good. As a citizen I need to know where all the crazies are.
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Anonymous Coward
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And the libs don't think a gun permit is an invasion of privacy.

Look at this you fucking morons. If journalist have this information the government certainly does and will come and round people up one by one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28822130


And to suggest as you might, that the concealed carry person without a Permit, doesn't have the same right to privacy as the Permit holder is not equally an invasion of privacy?

Its the same Creator Endowed rights, people, with or without a PREMIT.
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12/24/2012 01:19 PM
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So did they include the mafia and every thug hoodlum who bought a discounted gun out of the trunk of a Cadillac?
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Good. As a citizen I need to know where all the crazies are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24545480


Crazies?
Just wait....
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12/24/2012 01:21 PM
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Soon you will see a new map showing where all INFIDELS reside!
Oh yeah! They will, and the Mahdi Obama will be the one to enforce it.yoda
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12/24/2012 01:23 PM
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Is this considered public information?
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12/24/2012 01:27 PM
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Is this considered public information?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16178844


The names and badge numbers of your local police officers are of public record too, but they don't publish their addresses and they SHOULDN'T either!
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12/24/2012 01:28 PM
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Criminals looking for weapons now know just where there might be other guns they can steal along with the idea of what other valuables the permit holder have.

Plus if married, and wife or husband does not work, this would scare me worst than the idea of protecting myself.
The citizen that goes to all the work involved in obtaining such permits are not ones who we have to worry about.

Those who own many of these media outlets should worry us more than many of stories they run, or in this case distort. Next they will be running the address of those who are the first responders to these crime scenes.

Take a closer look at todays breaking story from Webster, NY to try understanding how these deranged minds operate. Please consider the safety of those who are most in danger, such as police, firemen and medical teams.
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Is this considered public information?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16178844


Do you actually read the threads or just pop in and post?

I think that a lot of people here talk too much and read too little.
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So you are "Ok" with posting public records as long as it is about somebody famous or some poor smuck that got arrested(Mug Shot) but was later found "Not Guilty"...and what about the guy from the 1996 Olympic bombing?...all that's "OK" huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


If you rape babies ya I want your name posted, these people have commited no crime and had they of they would probably not hold that permit...
 Quoting: Omniscient1




But what if person accused you of such, you get arrested, name & mug shot on the Tele and in print....but 2 days later, it's proven you were out of the country at the time...soo you are OK with that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


Innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, you are intentionaly defaming the charactors of rightfull/lawfull gun owners here, prior to any criminal act having taken place.
 Quoting: Omniscient1


Are or are not Permits to Carry Concealed Weapons a matter of Court File Records, and Public, or Not?

Doesn't that depend on that particular State's laws as to CCW laws and their language?

Oh, like marriage 'license'.. some one alleges you are not married to this woman, they go to the Court house and dig around to see whether or not you are in fact married to that woman they also check to see in the records whether or not that is a divorce between you and that woman. Is that a case of being found innocent until proven guilty in a court law? Perhaps not the same thing exactly as a CCW permit.. but very similar. Again it goes to just how the law in a State is written, in its language as to whether or not CCW are a matter of Public Record. Obviously they are or the Reporter illegally broke into the Court to obtain that information... or someone did.
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12/24/2012 01:34 PM
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Wrong on so many levels and will likely backfire on whoever did this.
 Quoting: Omniscient1


So you are "Ok" with posting public records as long as it is about somebody famous or some poor smuck that got arrested(Mug Shot) but was later found "Not Guilty"...and what about the guy from the 1996 Olympic bombing?...all that's "OK" huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794








WOW what a twist how exactly did you you come up with that response according to what was said?

Me thinks YOU maybe the next big WHACKO to hit the news!!!!

Please say you don't own any weapons and I mean ANY WEAPONS like spoons, forks, knives etc.!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10372663




Nope, you guys love to see "dirt" on the "other guy", well guess what now YOU may be the "Other Guy"...ENJOY
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30659794


clappa
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Oh man this is really bad, I can not believe they did this- another sign that our govt. has lost control and the constitution is going, going, gone...sigh
 Quoting: SpiderJones


Point is, the Creator Endowed right to keep and bear arms stands, whether open carry or concealed carry. In neither case permission aka permits are an infringement upon all Creator Endowed Rights.

Have the damned PERMIT in the first place? Isn't that itself an Infringement?

Just like the Marriage License, the PERMIT to marry.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246



Nail hits head.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30630593


Permit to Marry Concealed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246

haha that's called common law marriage.
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12/24/2012 01:40 PM
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I believe this is the original article. The guy, a retired police officer, is more or less blaming the mother for the Connecticut shooting.

[link to www.lohud.com]
 Quoting: 008-80


"In May, Richard V. Wilson approached a female neighbor on the street and shot her in the back of the head, a crime that stunned their quiet Katonah neighborhood.

What was equally shocking for some was the revelation that the mentally disturbed 77-year-old man had amassed a cache of weapons — including two unregistered handguns and a large amount of ammunition — without any neighbors knowing."


Wilson could just as easily used a titanium knitting needle and drove it quickly into this woman's eye and right into her brain, or just at that back lower base of her skull. No gun needed, no knife, no ax, no spear, no bomb. He could have as easily used a screw driver or a hammer.

Would the neighbor have been any less stunned had he used a knitting needle? Ah, but for the anti-gun fanatics the megaphone of a stunned neighborhood would have been a one published event and quickly forgotten.





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