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Was Jesus really free from sin ?

 
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Was Jesus really free from sin ?
I keep hearing Jesus never sinned.

Is this true ?
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Yes, he was the spotless lamb or else his sacrifice could not have been accepted.

But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 1 Peter 1:19
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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Mark 10:18

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How is this so ? ^^

Free from sin, but " not good " as well ?
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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Mark 10:18

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How is this so ? ^^

Free from sin, but " not good " as well ?
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Being holy means neither good nor evil.
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From my understanding jesus was a little shit just like we can or have been.
The years of his early life were torn from the bible, 18 thru about 30.

The reason was to keep us in line.

In my belief system he was good and pure in later years and did rise from the dead to show us that we have the power to do the same.

What ever you believe I honor!

This makes sense to me, we are powerful beyond our knowledge at this point. It is changing as we all awaken and come to know this for ourselves.
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Jesus did not sin in the sense of moral corruption, yet he had a flesh and blood body which was subject to corruption and he died due to that. He broke 'their' laws, the Sadducees and the Pharasees, so in that sense he 'sinned' according to them He knew the law and in knowing it that is how sin enters this world we occupy, but he fulfilled His Father's laws to the letter.

NO, Jesus did not sin.

Please, this day and forever, think occasionally of what He who could have elected otherwise suffered for such miserable souls as we are to save us, and have gratitude.

Thank you God for your plan and thank you Jesus for obeying your Father.
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From my understanding jesus was a little shit just like we can or have been.
The years of his early life were torn from the bible, 18 thru about 30.

The reason was to keep us in line.

In my belief system he was good and pure in later years and did rise from the dead to show us that we have the power to do the same.

What ever you believe I honor!

This makes sense to me, we are powerful beyond our knowledge at this point. It is changing as we all awaken and come to know this for ourselves.
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Interesting, thanks.
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so he drank and consorted with whores but he needed a break from all the sanctimonious bullshit.
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Yea it's true, that's why he's "the lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world". He's the only one qualified to be a savior.
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From my understanding jesus was a little shit just like we can or have been.
The years of his early life were torn from the bible, 18 thru about 30.

The reason was to keep us in line.

In my belief system he was good and pure in later years and did rise from the dead to show us that we have the power to do the same.

What ever you believe I honor!

This makes sense to me, we are powerful beyond our knowledge at this point. It is changing as we all awaken and come to know this for ourselves.
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I wouldn't listen to this New Age shit.
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When you reach full spectrum and beyond which is Christ/GoD consciousness then you hit a state where Sin does not apply to you as it does to others. You will never cross into evil but you can access light and dark to meet the task at hand.

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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Mark 10:18

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How is this so ? ^^

Free from sin, but " not good " as well ?
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You have to read the context. Jesus was talking to the rich young ruler. Jesus knew that this young man who called him good had no idea that he was Emmanuel which means 'God with us'.

Also, this young man thought very highly of himself; he also thought Jesus was just a good teacher and a good person.

Jesus was pointing out to him that the only really 'good' as in perfectly, divinely good person is God. And yes, Jesus is God the Son and is perfectly good.

Jesus then begins to show the young ruler that he really isn't a 'good' as he supposes because when Jesus tells him to go and sell everything he has and give it to the poor, the guy walks away saddened.

The whole point of the passage and the whole point Jesus wants to get accross to each one of us is that WE HAVE NO DIVINE GOODNESS IN US....WE HAVE HUMAN GOODNESS WHICH FALLS SHORT IN MEETING GOD'S DEMAND.

That's why WE EACH NEED TO ACCEPT JESUS' PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS ON OUR BEHALF TO BE ACCEPTED AND RECONCILED WITH GOD THE FATHER AND TO ENTER HEAVEN.

Philippians 3:9
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.

Galations 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.


Romans 3:21-28
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

EVEN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD WHICH IS BY FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE: for there is no difference:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to DECLARE HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the juftifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay, but by the law of faith.

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."


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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Mark 10:18

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How is this so ? ^^

Free from sin, but " not good " as well ?
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You read but do not comprehend. Jesus was pointing out they were calling him God.

"why do you call me good?"
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Sure he is the Great God and Savior, God with us.
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sin is in the eye of the beholder.

Jesus apparently didn't "sin" in the eyes of the people. he behaved like a good little man.

but the popes, who are supposedly infallible and supposedly represent God Himself, did they sin when they had orgies? when they poisoned political opponents? when they took money for favors? when they forged papers to get ownership of huge tracts of land? when they ordered the massacre of thousands of people, such as the Crusades or their quests to conquer and rule the New World?

since they represent God, and literally say they can do no wrong no matter what (and therefore are totally unaccountable), do they sin when they do things anyone else would be punished, even executed, for?

sin is what God says is sin. but whose version of God? and who is to say which is to be followed and which illegitimate, thus ignored?

why do so many christians say they have God's blessing, but don't even attempt to act like Jesus?
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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Mark 10:18

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How is this so ? ^^

Free from sin, but " not good " as well ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14105059


You have to read the context. Jesus was talking to the rich young ruler. Jesus knew that this young man who called him good had no idea that he was Emmanuel which means 'God with us'.

Also, this young man thought very highly of himself; he also thought Jesus was just a good teacher and a good person.

Jesus was pointing out to him that the only really 'good' as in perfectly, divinely good person is God. And yes, Jesus is God the Son and is perfectly good.

Jesus then begins to show the young ruler that he really isn't a 'good' as he supposes because when Jesus tells him to go and sell everything he has and give it to the poor, the guy walks away saddened.

The whole point of the passage and the whole point Jesus wants to get accross to each one of us is that WE HAVE NO DIVINE GOODNESS IN US....WE HAVE HUMAN GOODNESS WHICH FALLS SHORT IN MEETING GOD'S DEMAND.

That's why WE EACH NEED TO ACCEPT JESUS' PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS ON OUR BEHALF TO BE ACCEPTED AND RECONCILED WITH GOD THE FATHER AND TO ENTER HEAVEN.

Philippians 3:9
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith.

Galations 3:6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.


Romans 3:21-28
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;

EVEN THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD WHICH IS BY FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST UNTO ALL AND UPON ALL THEM THAT BELIEVE: for there is no difference:

For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to DECLARE HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the juftifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay, but by the law of faith.

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."

 Quoting: Morganite


So then God is good in a way that separates him from Jesus ?
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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Mark 10:18

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How is this so ? ^^

Free from sin, but " not good " as well ?
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You read but do not comprehend. Jesus was pointing out they were calling him God.

"why do you call me good?"
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Isn't that the whole point of asking a question ?

Do you really feel the need to be so redundant to point out I don't understand it, when I am asking for an explanation in the first place ?
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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."

Mark 10:18

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How is this so ? ^^

Free from sin, but " not good " as well ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14105059


IT is because our thoughts are mostly evil, lusting after things of the flesh.... Materialism and sexual sin! It is very difficult to be an over-comer but if you ask for help?
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So then God is good in a way that separates him from Jesus ?
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No, Jesus is telling the guy that no one is truely good except God. He asked why the guy was calling him good because he knew the guy thought Jesus was just another ordinary man who was a good teacher.

God and Jesus have the same Divine Goodness because they're both part of the Godhead. God the Son(Jesus) is right now standing beside God the Father who is sitting on his throne in heaven. God the Holy Spirit is living in each believer's spirit on earth.

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So then God is good in a way that separates him from Jesus ?
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No, Jesus is telling the guy that no one is truely good except God. He asked why the guy was calling him good because he knew the guy thought Jesus was just another ordinary man who was a good teacher.

God and Jesus have the same Divine Goodness because they're both part of the Godhead. God the Son(Jesus) is right now standing beside God the Father who is sitting on his throne in heaven. God the Holy Spirit is living in each believer's spirit on earth.
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What's the difference between " good " and
" truly good " ?
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Jesus was not free from sin. You were told that so no matter how much effort you put forth into being as he asked you to be, you would always perceive yourself as falling short. In this way you continue to defeat yourselves, and continue to be controlled by those whose actions are contrary to the will of Christ, yet who use his persona as an icon with which to dominate you.

If there is anything that Jesus hates, it is that.

Jesus was indeed a vessel for the example of Perfect Service. Despite his character flaws and physical limitations, despite the pain he bore at witnessing his image be made the focus while his message ignored, despite being betrayed physically and emotionally by those that he loved most of all, and despite, most importantly, being (incarnate as a) human, he never betrayed his own purpose. He never traded his ways for the ways of the world. He never imposed his will nor sought against the free will granted each and every soul by the Will of God. He simply walked the walk. He offered Truth, Peace, Happiness - everything one would desire to have with them while traveling the path of our eternal lives - through his teaching, through his example.

Many have made a big deal about him, much to his disdain. Yet, left to our own free wills, so very few of us have truly chosen to embrace his example and message above the political dogma mandated and imposed upon us by those who claim to speak for him, yet speak not the same message.
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Jesus was born into a great home and was well trained as were the forefathers down the generations, that is how a family is supposed to be, together in all things. He was put through temptations. It is difficult for people to grasp that Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost, One Person Who works in three mighty Offices and He created the universe and all things in it and no one can be in place of Him. It is not possible for Father, Son and Holy Ghost to be three separate individuals, three personalities, three Gods, the deity or trinity is Offices not three personalities. No such thing as "God in three persons". No such thing as three persons, One Person. The Jews who received the revelation at His coming knew perfectly well Who He Is and was, they would never even think of such a thing as three Gods - crazy - they understood omnipotence and the prophecies that would be fulfilled to save them. God has a Name and He is Jesus. The Pope's doctrine and the Islamic doctrine falls away completely when this is understood. Conceived by The Holy Ghost and rose up from the dead, only The Great Creator can do that. His children by predestination before the earth was created were already in His thoughts, they were with Him. It is impossible for a Pope to act as Jesus being second in charge to God because Jesus is God, (insanity) that is why it is the false vine of Christianity, the great harlot and its daughters, and it is also impossible for Muhamed to act as second in charge to God being the greater prophet than Jesus as they say, impossible because Jesus is God, these doctrines are completely invalid, their God they serve is clearly not Jesus, so it can only be Satan - the deceiver - the human race is deceived by Satan ! Jesus already did a mighty work pulling these people out through the ages and things are still happening ! The Jews will never accept three Gods and this alone should tell. Everybody knows now who these three gods are in the Catholic doctrine and it has got nothing to do with Father, Son and Holy Ghost, their prescribed 'jesus' is a pathetic perception because they are heathens, don't believe and have no faith and are paedophiles - the Jews find it abominable when you tell them Jesus is the Messiah due to this witches brew from the bottomless pit ! THIS FRAUD COMMITTED IN THE NAME OF CHRISTIANITY IS GIGANTIC !
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Jesus was not free from sin. You were told that so no matter how much effort you put forth into being as he asked you to be, you would always perceive yourself as falling short. In this way you continue to defeat yourselves, and continue to be controlled by those whose actions are contrary to the will of Christ, yet who use his persona as an icon with which to dominate you.

If there is anything that Jesus hates, it is that.

Jesus was indeed a vessel for the example of Perfect Service. Despite his character flaws and physical limitations, despite the pain he bore at witnessing his image be made the focus while his message ignored, despite being betrayed physically and emotionally by those that he loved most of all, and despite, most importantly, being (incarnate as a) human, he never betrayed his own purpose. He never traded his ways for the ways of the world. He never imposed his will nor sought against the free will granted each and every soul by the Will of God. He simply walked the walk. He offered Truth, Peace, Happiness - everything one would desire to have with them while traveling the path of our eternal lives - through his teaching, through his example.

Many have made a big deal about him, much to his disdain. Yet, left to our own free wills, so very few of us have truly chosen to embrace his example and message above the political dogma mandated and imposed upon us by those who claim to speak for him, yet speak not the same message.
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applause

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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Stop nitpicking every verse from the bible. Most of the stuff was written in parables. They can have different meanings to different people

All I know that I WAS SAVED BY JESUS

I asked him to come into my heart and confessed my sins, all the DEPRESSION AND ANXIETY i had was completely gone, and still gone to this day

I use to be suicidal

Now I cant EVEN THINK ABOUT SUICIDE

JESUS is the way, the only way

People like you that nitpick the verses and try to steer the sheep to hell... oh man you better stop it

They way Jesus would prove that he was the sun of God was through miracles, not bible verses

youtube street healing with Tom, and look at the testimonials of those that are being healed by Jesus, not by nitpicking the bible..
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Yea it's true, that's why he's "the lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world". He's the only one qualified to be a savior.
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Well, that makes Jesus a liar. Isn't telling lies a sin? First off, Jesus DID NOT take away the sins of the world. He only took away the sins of Christians. And then he only took away the sins of Christians who repented of their sins and turned from them and sinned no more. This is why Jesus said, CLEARLY, that the road to heaven is very narrow and only a few get in.

So Jesus only died for a few people, NOT the sins of the world. He didn't even have to die, actually. People already knew they needed to follow the laws and commandments and they already were told in the OT they had to turn from their sins. The people already knew they had to believe in God and, in fact, put God first in their life. So why did Jesus die? I have no idea.

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