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why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?

 
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why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
A better question may well have been why are there 13 bankers families, why were there 13 colonies, why including jesus were there 13.

saviors come in all shapes and sizes, usually however to save a select few.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
A better question may well have been why are there 13 bankers families, why were there 13 colonies, why including jesus were there 13.

saviors come in all shapes and sizes, usually however to save a select few.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
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Women were taken out by Emperor Constantine, ever heard of the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? Check it out.

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13 is sacred. So much so, they try to make you think it is unlucky...

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Thanks OP, I never knew there were 12 + Mary the mother of Jesus women who followed Jesus in the Bible. Very interesting.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
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Women were taken out by Emperor Constantine, ever heard of the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? Check it out.

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i def. have read it, and it has a lot of truth in it without a doubt.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
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I'll wait for the OP to post a list of the names of the 13 women before commenting further.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine
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Because the bible does not comply to your new age nonsense.
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so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine
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Because the bible does not comply to your new age nonsense.
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lol there is a big difference between the TRUTH, and most new age nonsense...


with that being said, jesus was all about equality.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
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I'll wait for the OP to post a list of the names of the 13 women before commenting further.
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its listed in the bible as "the women"...

there are other scriptures out there,

do names matter?

i can quote from scripture, but does that make it valid?

isn't the message behind the message what matters?

not the actual message..
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with that being said, jesus was all about equality.
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Not really.

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


I'll wait for the OP to post a list of the names of the 13 women before commenting further.
 Quoting: Life and Love


its listed in the bible as "the women"...

there are other scriptures out there,

do names matter?

i can quote from scripture, but does that make it valid?

isn't the message behind the message what matters?

not the actual message..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


You're the one who mentioned the number 13, not I. Nor do I remember Scripture calling women "apostles." They may well have been called that, but to say so without anything to back it up is sheer speculation.

An evenhanded look at Scripture, however, will reveal much more of an emphasis on women than other literature of that cultural period.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
with that being said, jesus was all about equality.
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Not really.

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
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Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
with that being said, jesus was all about equality.
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Not really.

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
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Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)

And even Paul wrote that in Christ there is no distinction between male and female (or Jew/Gentle, free/slave).
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
with that being said, jesus was all about equality.
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Not really.

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
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New Age nonsense.
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No one talks about Jessica Christ of Nazareth either.
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
with that being said, jesus was all about equality.
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Not really.

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


New Age nonsense.
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My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that?
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
there were some names of women who followed Christ
Mary and Martha, Joanna and Maria Jacobs mother..

But apostle women? i doubt it.
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Not really.

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
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Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


New Age nonsense.
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My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that?
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It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family.

Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be.
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Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
 Quoting: Life and Love


New Age nonsense.
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My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that?
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It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family.

Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be.
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Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again.

Any more ad hominem attacks left?
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New Age nonsense.
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My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that?
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It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family.

Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again.

Any more ad hominem attacks left?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Anything of substance to prove your nonsense?
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check Luke 8.1
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My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that?
 Quoting: Life and Love


It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family.

Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again.

Any more ad hominem attacks left?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Anything of substance to prove your nonsense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace.

On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!)
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cause it was written by homos like Paul who hated women?
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Re: why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?
The woman, in scripture, represents the soul..which must be disciplined and brought into agreement with the spirit which is in union, by the Holy Spirit, with God. (WE are one)

Women are "spirit men" too..
3 times must the males of Israel appear before The Lord"

This, symbolically meant everyone in Christ Jesus for it speaks of the spirit within the mortal..(there are no males or females in Christ Jesus). No all people come to God in three experiences..represented by the feasts..

Passover..born again..a baby
"Ye must be born again"
Come unto me, ye who need rest"

Pentecost..stripping of desires,earthly entanglements
"I buffet my body..."
"I die daily..."

Tabernacles..death of self
"I no longer live but Christ lives in me"
"the glory that will be revealed in us"
"until we come to the unity of Christ.."
"the whole of creation awaits the manifestation of the Sons of God"
For the one guy..Paul was answering a question..in the next verse he says "What! You think the word of God comes to you alone." The most annointed teacher I ever met was a woman.
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It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family.

Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again.

Any more ad hominem attacks left?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Anything of substance to prove your nonsense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace.

On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!)
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You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity.
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Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again.

Any more ad hominem attacks left?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Anything of substance to prove your nonsense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace.

On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!)
 Quoting: Life and Love


You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity.
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I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me.

As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions.
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Anything of substance to prove your nonsense?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace.

On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!)
 Quoting: Life and Love


You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me.

As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that?

Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that?
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Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace.

On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!)
 Quoting: Life and Love


You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me.

As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that?

Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not?
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You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity.
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I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me.

As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that?

Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not?
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I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband.