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why are the 13 apostle women not mentioned in the bible?

 
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I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me.

As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions.
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Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that?

Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that?
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At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not?
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I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband.
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Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me.

But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you.
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Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that?

Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that?
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At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not?
 Quoting: Life and Love


I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband.
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Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me.

But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you.
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Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for.
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13 is sacred. So much so, they try to make you think it is unlucky...

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Thanks OP, I never knew there were 12 + Mary the mother of Jesus women who followed Jesus in the Bible. Very interesting.
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1+3=4

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At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not?
 Quoting: Life and Love


I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband.
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Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me.

But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for.
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Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently.

Blessings.

hf

Edit to add: oh, you've never been able to show from my posts where I have either supported or denied anything other than the OP's original thesis of "13" "apostle" women.

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I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband.
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Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me.

But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently.

Blessings.

hf
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If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening.
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Which one of the Abrahamic religions started this hatred for women?
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Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me.

But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently.

Blessings.

hf
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If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening.
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Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings.
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they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
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the 12 apostles are 12 posts eg; mthly,hrs,mins,sec, she is the serpent,sine 13. the caduceus progression cycles of birth she is the motion notion presence of conscious continuity .
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Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently.

Blessings.

hf
 Quoting: Life and Love


If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening.
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Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings.
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You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture.
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Women are to be treated with LOVE and respect. Sadly, most boys are taught early from infancy on to young men to disrespect women.


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Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently.

Blessings.

hf
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If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening.
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Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings.
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You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture.
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Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture."

One will be sufficient.

Thank you.
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If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening.
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Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture.
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Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture."

One will be sufficient.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god:

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
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(We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
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Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture."

One will be sufficient.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god:

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


(We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
 Quoting: Life and Love

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So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes?

OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend?
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You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture.
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Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture."

One will be sufficient.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god:

Women are to be quiet in church. For example.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


(We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
 Quoting: Life and Love

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes?

OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend?
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I'm traditional catholic.
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god

and written by men, not MY GOD
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Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture."

One will be sufficient.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Life and Love


You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god:

...


(We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.)
 Quoting: Life and Love

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247


So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes?

OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend?
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I'm traditional catholic.
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And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter?

So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else?
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god

and written by men, not MY GOD
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Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is.
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god

and written by men, not MY GOD
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Just wow! Can you carefully reread what I really wrote? The "first century" descriptor was not applied to scripture but to our viewing/reading it. Do you think we should read scripture with, say, 19th century eyes? or maybe 21st century eyes?
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god:

...

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So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes?

OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend?
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I'm traditional catholic.
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And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter?

So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else?
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They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage.
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So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes?

OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend?
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I'm traditional catholic.
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And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter?

So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else?
 Quoting: Life and Love


They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage.
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And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand.
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god

and written by men, not MY GOD
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Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is.
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yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating.
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I'm traditional catholic.
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And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter?

So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else?
 Quoting: Life and Love


They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage.
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And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand.
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Good.
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The beloved Disciple was a woman, Mary of Bethany who was also a disciple of John the Baptist. She wrote the Gospel of John (the Baptist), Revelation and 1 Epistle and got letters from Peter and Paul (other two Epistles) so what part shows that God doesn't have women in positions of authority?
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god

and written by men, not MY GOD
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Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is.
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yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating.
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Your god is Satan. Plain and simple.
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And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter?

So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else?
 Quoting: Life and Love


They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage.
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And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Good.
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I'm glad we continued the conversation. Now I can make a definitive statement based on knowledge: There are probably several doctrines of the Catholic church with which I would disagree and not take part in. However, unlike a lot of others on GLP, I will never bash or make fun of them.
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They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage.
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And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand.
 Quoting: Life and Love


Good.
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I'm glad we continued the conversation. Now I can make a definitive statement based on knowledge: There are probably several doctrines of the Catholic church with which I would disagree and not take part in. However, unlike a lot of others on GLP, I will never bash or make fun of them.
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That's nice of you.
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god

and written by men, not MY GOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247




yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Your god is Satan. Plain and simple.
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Oh really, says who? the accuser?

Isaiah 55:9

9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,
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they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother...

imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality.

This is what these women did

yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified...

most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women...

so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side...

hm...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431


the 12 apostles are 12 posts eg; mthly,hrs,mins,sec, she is the serpent,sine 13. the caduceus progression cycles of birth she is the motion notion presence of conscious continuity .
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the nile/Eridanus is in taurus 8 oclock/apostle this is depicted in the last supper the planets either side/apostles just personified posts jesus-sun, mary -moon,
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You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god

and written by men, not MY GOD
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247




yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776


Your god is Satan. Plain and simple.
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Some people just will not open their mind....