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Anonymous Coward User ID: 23663666 United States 12/24/2012 05:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality. This is what these women did yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified... most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women... so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side... hm... Women were taken out by Emperor Constantine, ever heard of the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? Check it out. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 12/24/2012 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality. This is what these women did yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified... most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women... so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side... hm... Women were taken out by Emperor Constantine, ever heard of the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? Check it out. i def. have read it, and it has a lot of truth in it without a doubt. |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality. This is what these women did yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified... most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women... so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side... hm... I'll wait for the OP to post a list of the names of the 13 women before commenting further. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 12/24/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 Because the bible does not comply to your new age nonsense. lol there is a big difference between the TRUTH, and most new age nonsense... with that being said, jesus was all about equality. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1747431 United States 12/24/2012 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality. This is what these women did yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified... most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women... so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side... hm... I'll wait for the OP to post a list of the names of the 13 women before commenting further. its listed in the bible as "the women"... there are other scriptures out there, do names matter? i can quote from scripture, but does that make it valid? isn't the message behind the message what matters? not the actual message.. |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality. This is what these women did yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified... most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women... so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side... hm... I'll wait for the OP to post a list of the names of the 13 women before commenting further. its listed in the bible as "the women"... there are other scriptures out there, do names matter? i can quote from scripture, but does that make it valid? isn't the message behind the message what matters? not the actual message.. You're the one who mentioned the number 13, not I. Nor do I remember Scripture calling women "apostles." They may well have been called that, but to say so without anything to back it up is sheer speculation. An evenhanded look at Scripture, however, will reveal much more of an emphasis on women than other literature of that cultural period. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.) And even Paul wrote that in Christ there is no distinction between male and female (or Jew/Gentle, free/slave). We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.) New Age nonsense. My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.) New Age nonsense. My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that? It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family. Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be. |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love Paul, not Jesus, and in a corrective model of church leadership, not the normative model. (We need to read these passages with 1st century eyes.) New Age nonsense. My post is "new age nonsense?" LOL May I quote you on that? It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family. Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be. Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again. Any more ad hominem attacks left? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family. Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be. Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again. Any more ad hominem attacks left? Anything of substance to prove your nonsense? |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family. Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be. Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again. Any more ad hominem attacks left? Anything of substance to prove your nonsense? Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace. On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!) We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 29363518 United States 12/24/2012 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Women are "spirit men" too.. 3 times must the males of Israel appear before The Lord" This, symbolically meant everyone in Christ Jesus for it speaks of the spirit within the mortal..(there are no males or females in Christ Jesus). No all people come to God in three experiences..represented by the feasts.. Passover..born again..a baby "Ye must be born again" Come unto me, ye who need rest" Pentecost..stripping of desires,earthly entanglements "I buffet my body..." "I die daily..." Tabernacles..death of self "I no longer live but Christ lives in me" "the glory that will be revealed in us" "until we come to the unity of Christ.." "the whole of creation awaits the manifestation of the Sons of God" For the one guy..Paul was answering a question..in the next verse he says "What! You think the word of God comes to you alone." The most annointed teacher I ever met was a woman. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 It was always christian tradition that women are to be quiet in church and that the man is the leader of the family. Christianity is not what you hippies like it to be. Now I'm a hippie, too? LOL again. Any more ad hominem attacks left? Anything of substance to prove your nonsense? Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace. On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!) You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity. |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace. On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!) You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity. I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me. As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace. On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!) You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity. I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me. As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions. Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that? Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that? |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love Plenty, but unlike you, I have nothing to prove. I'll leave proof to you and the OP, since it seems so lacking. So, I'll let you go first and set the pace. On the other hand you have made unprovable (and unknowable) statements about me that are quite hilarious. I should ping all my friends to this thread so they can laugh with me. (I can't wait to see your proof about my new agishness and hippiness. This will be great!) You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity. I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me. As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions. Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that? Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that? At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 You mean nothing to me. I'm defending traditional christianity. I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me. As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions. Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that? Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that? At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not? I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband. |