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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love I believe your first statement. However, unlike your sentiment about me, you do matter to me. As to your second statement, I'll believe when you offer some substance. At the moment it appears that you are just defending your own opinions. Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that? Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that? At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not? I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband. Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me. But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 Women are to be quiet in church, you're denyng that? Men are to be the leader of the family, you're denying that? At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not? I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband. Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me. But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you. Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25567776 United States 12/24/2012 07:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 13 is sacred. So much so, they try to make you think it is unlucky... Quoting: 2012Portal [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Thanks OP, I never knew there were 12 + Mary the mother of Jesus women who followed Jesus in the Bible. Very interesting. 1+3=4 2+2=4 1+1+1+1=4 11:11 |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love At the moment I'm most concerned that you think some people should mean nothing. I find that frightening and disturbing. Do you not? I get it, you're a woman. Find a husband. Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me. But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you. Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for. Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently. Blessings. Edit to add: oh, you've never been able to show from my posts where I have either supported or denied anything other than the OP's original thesis of "13" "apostle" women. Last Edited by Life and Love on 12/24/2012 07:39 PM We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me. But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you. Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for. Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently. Blessings. If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening. |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love Another conclusion of yours that's false. Three for three. Perhaps you can see why your posts don't hold a lot of credibility for me. But I really do believe that one thing you said, that I mean nothing to you. Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for. Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently. Blessings. If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening. Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19505114 Australia 12/24/2012 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality. This is what these women did yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified... most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women... so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side... hm... the 12 apostles are 12 posts eg; mthly,hrs,mins,sec, she is the serpent,sine 13. the caduceus progression cycles of birth she is the motion notion presence of conscious continuity . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 Maybe you're gay. Can't think of a good reason why anyone would willingly deny the teachings of christianity just so he can elevate women into a position they don't want and are not made for. Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently. Blessings. If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening. Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings. You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture. |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love Four out of four conclusions false. But of course, I mean nothing to you, so I think I won't give you an opportunity for a fifth failure. Perhaps the people who taught you the doctrines you are promoting can help you out with the worth of all people. I may mean nothing to you, but fortunately Jesus sees it differently. Blessings. If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening. Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings. You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture. Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture." One will be sufficient. Thank you. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 If you think Jesus accepts the denying of holy scripture you're in for a rude awakening. Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings. You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture. Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture." One will be sufficient. Thank you. You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god: |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love Son, I've put you on my prayer list. And that's because you really do matter to me. I am praying that soon you will get to really know Jesus, one-on-one, and begin to really follow Him. Blessings. You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture. Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture." One will be sufficient. Thank you. You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god: So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes? OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 You're not a christian if you don't follow the teachings of the holy scripture. Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture." One will be sufficient. Thank you. You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god: So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes? OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend? I'm traditional catholic. |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love Please, please, please review my posts in this thread and even elsewhere on GLP and POST where I've not "followed the teachings of the holy scripture." One will be sufficient. Thank you. You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god: So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes? OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend? I'm traditional catholic. And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter? So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
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Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and written by men, not MY GOD Just wow! Can you carefully reread what I really wrote? The "first century" descriptor was not applied to scripture but to our viewing/reading it. Do you think we should read scripture with, say, 19th century eyes? or maybe 21st century eyes? We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god: ... So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes? OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend? I'm traditional catholic. And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter? So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else? They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage. |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love So we shouldn't read scripture with 1st century eyes? OP, maybe I don't understand you. Which church do you attend? I'm traditional catholic. And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter? So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else? They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage. And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25567776 United States 12/24/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and written by men, not MY GOD Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is. yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter? So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else? They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage. And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand. Good. |
MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada 12/24/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The beloved Disciple was a woman, Mary of Bethany who was also a disciple of John the Baptist. She wrote the Gospel of John (the Baptist), Revelation and 1 Epistle and got letters from Peter and Paul (other two Epistles) so what part shows that God doesn't have women in positions of authority? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and written by men, not MY GOD Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is. yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating. Your god is Satan. Plain and simple. |
Life and Love User ID: 26735250 United States 12/24/2012 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Life and Love And traditional catholicism teaches that people don't matter? So when you go to Mass tonight, not a single woman will speak a word of conversation to anyone else? They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage. And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand. Good. I'm glad we continued the conversation. Now I can make a definitive statement based on knowledge: There are probably several doctrines of the Catholic church with which I would disagree and not take part in. However, unlike a lot of others on GLP, I will never bash or make fun of them. We become like that to which we are devoted. - Choose wisely. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30795247 Germany 12/24/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30795247 They certainly don't preach. Which is how the church always understood this passage. And by "church" you are meaning the Catholic church, right? I think I am beginning to understand. Good. I'm glad we continued the conversation. Now I can make a definitive statement based on knowledge: There are probably several doctrines of the Catholic church with which I would disagree and not take part in. However, unlike a lot of others on GLP, I will never bash or make fun of them. That's nice of you. |
Kay User ID: 25567776 United States 12/24/2012 08:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and written by men, not MY GOD Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is. yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating. Your god is Satan. Plain and simple. Oh really, says who? the accuser? Isaiah 55:9 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19505114 Australia 12/24/2012 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they are referred to as "the women" in the book of acts... plus mary the mother... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1747431 imagine being told, surrounded by a society dominated by men, that you are their equals.. both mentally and spiritually...you are given access to the indwelling spirit of the father and compelled to teach others about this message of love and equality. This is what these women did yet generations later.. this equality was lost..and patriarchal reign occurred almost instantly after jesus was crucified... most people at the time just couldn't comprehend this about women... so if the bible is gods book, why is there no emphasis on the divine feminine and also these groups of apostles who also taught.. WHO DID NOT ABANDON JESUS , who stated at his side... hm... the 12 apostles are 12 posts eg; mthly,hrs,mins,sec, she is the serpent,sine 13. the caduceus progression cycles of birth she is the motion notion presence of conscious continuity . the nile/Eridanus is in taurus 8 oclock/apostle this is depicted in the last supper the planets either side/apostles just personified posts jesus-sun, mary -moon, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 7880169 United States 12/24/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You're denying that women are to be quiet in church, by claiming these are 1st century scriptures not the holy word of god Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25567776 and written by men, not MY GOD Your god is whatever you want him to be, your desires determine what your god is. yes, I know the Father's ways are higher than the fallen thoughts of men who wrote the bible and have twisted it, just by the things he has shown me personally. Religions will not work with the new things he is creating. Your god is Satan. Plain and simple. Some people just will not open their mind.... |