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BREAKING: Firefighters killed in pre-planned fire/ambush

 
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[link to www.cnn.com]

appears to be the same type of incident in the series 'prison break' where the guy is told to kill someone and then kill himself.....

what makes a more dramatic statement than to murder those that dedicate their lives to helping others?

manchurian slaves are out there?

this is getting way beyond coincidental to have so many questionable murders without any real motive.
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12/24/2012 04:41 PM
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and in NY to boot. This will certainly create justification for draconian gun laws...at least in NY.
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This kind of False Flag terrorism must come to screaching halt!!....Who in the hell would ever think about killing responding firefighters...for the purpose of gun control legislation?....this is getting overtly stupid , desparate, on the the part of TPTB/NWO guys.
just waiting for the SHTF...been watching the USA go into the sewer for 52 years.tried to fight the gun grabbers, had some victories...tried to fight corrupt politicians as a delegate to the Republican party...found out it's all BS
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well under the 50% rule of copy:

from link.

"It does appear that it was a trap that was set," said Pickering, who choked back tears as he talked about the firefighters who were killed. One of them, Lt. Michael Chiapperini, was also a police lieutenant with about 20 years on the force, he said.

"We are a safe community, and to have tragedy befall us like this is just tremendous. ... You know, these people get up in the middle of the night to go put out fire," he said. "They don't expect to be shot and killed."

The shooting occurred amid a renewed gun control debate after the December 14 elementary school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, that killed 26 people, most of them children. The gunman in that case also apparently killed his mother and himself"

Yes, it is beyond shocking because it is unbeleivable.
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12/24/2012 04:48 PM
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No doubts at all. Filthy project paperclip CIA nazi scum.
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This kind of False Flag terrorism must come to screaching halt!!....Who in the hell would ever think about killing responding firefighters...for the purpose of gun control legislation?....this is getting overtly stupid , desparate, on the the part of TPTB/NWO guys.
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this subject was started much earlier today...i did a search before posting of 'firefighter' but the other thread uses two words 'Fire Fighters'..

as it is
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link to other thread posted earlier today

Thread: NOW.... 2 FIRE FIGHTERS DEAD 2 OTHERS SHOT.... Shooter Dead.... WEBSTER NY
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The show becomes more entertaining for the feeble of mind.
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This kind of False Flag terrorism must come to screaching halt!!....Who in the hell would ever think about killing responding firefighters...for the purpose of gun control legislation?....this is getting overtly stupid , desparate, on the the part of TPTB/NWO guys.
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What a fucking asshole you are,eat shit & die you pig
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This kind of False Flag terrorism must come to screaching halt!!....Who in the hell would ever think about killing responding firefighters...for the purpose of gun control legislation?....this is getting overtly stupid , desparate, on the the part of TPTB/NWO guys.
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Seems like it. And the fact that these events have been so closely packed together is another telling detail. Sheeple forget too quickly, so the events have to happen in short order, for the max effect. MSM then makes sure the "issues" " (govt-created talking points) are shoved down their throats.
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This kind of False Flag terrorism must come to screaching halt!!....Who in the hell would ever think about killing responding firefighters...for the purpose of gun control legislation?....this is getting overtly stupid , desparate, on the the part of TPTB/NWO guys.
 Quoting: Dexdrake


What a fucking asshole you are,eat shit & die you pig
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back at ya fool
baffle m with briliance,or startle m with stupidity. everbody outta the pool.
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lol
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My cousin was there, on duty. This is his FB status update for those interested.

"Early this morning while responding to a car fire that was upgraded to a structure fire, West Webster, NY volunteer firefighters were fired upon by one or more gunmen. 2 FFs died in the Line of Duty with 2 more in the hospital, condition listed as serious. As we gather with our friends and family this holiday, let's remember them in our prayers."
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My cousin was there, on duty. This is his FB status update for those interested.

"Early this morning while responding to a car fire that was upgraded to a structure fire, West Webster, NY volunteer firefighters were fired upon by one or more gunmen. 2 FFs died in the Line of Duty with 2 more in the hospital, condition listed as serious. As we gather with our friends and family this holiday, let's remember them in our prayers."
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They are definitely in my heart and thoughts this Christmas Eve. May the rest of the holidays be a peaceful one.
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Yes, TPTB are getting real desperate, running scared. People are waking up and they are being exposed. Payback is coming. They know it. Everything is planned. Keep focused, pay close attention, watch.
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12/24/2012 11:38 PM
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FUCK ALL of you who don't give a shit about these men. I hope your homes burn to the ground and the firefighters that should be there, cant be. Assholes. Find some goddamn christmas spirit.

I pray that America burns. This country seriously needs a cleansing. Die, bitches.
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12/25/2012 01:02 AM
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The gunman, William Spengler, had served more than 17 years in prison for beating his 92-year-old grandmother to death in 1980 at the house next to where Monday's attack happened in upstate New York, Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering said.

Spengler, 62, was paroled in 1998 and had led a quiet life since, authorities said.


Seems weird that you would go "quiet" for 14 years, and then do something like this.

And at 62 years of age.

So he goes to jail at the age of 31, gets out at 48, and does nothing wrong until he turns 62?!

Weird.
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we spotted this story before... follow the thread... WTF
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The gunman, William Spengler, had served more than 17 years in prison for beating his 92-year-old grandmother to death in 1980 at the house next to where Monday's attack happened in upstate New York, Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering said.

Spengler, 62, was paroled in 1998 and had led a quiet life since, authorities said.


Seems weird that you would go "quiet" for 14 years, and then do something like this.

And at 62 years of age.

So he goes to jail at the age of 31, gets out at 48, and does nothing wrong until he turns 62?!

Weird.
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Scapegoat!
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12/25/2012 02:29 AM
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No birth cert for this guy. The firemen were volunteers who conveniently started just last year.

They don't exist either. I found the lady who died in October - supposedly the mom. She has a death cert but no birth.

This is the same as the Sandy Hook shooting. All characters.

To the person who thinks we don't care about fire fighters... we do... REAL ONES.

If it appears too incredible - chances are it is.

c'MON SHEEEEPLE.

IT'S TIME TO WAKE THE FLOCK UP.

WE ARE BEING PLAYED!
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you are unfortunately, quite right.

“The media's the most powerful entity on earth. They have the power to make the innocent guilty and to make the guilty innocent, and that's power. Because they control the minds of the masses.” ~ Malcolm X

“Whoever controls the media, controls the mind”
~ Jim Morrison

I am quite positive that firemen shooting was NOT that guy they blame

I watched it unfold and in the beginning they didn't know "how many shooters there were"

and they chased "him" but he "disappeared" then.... was found dead.

... why would he shoot so many.... then stop and kill himself

"his" quote on "type written" "suicide" note was that he was "good at killing people"

...why did he "stop" .... what he was "good" at...

just when it was getting "good"?

FAKE STAGED Same as 911 & just how many others??? ONE is TOO many!!!

the one cop in hospital was under "guarded" condition???

guarding him from "what" or ... preventing him! from speaking as he may have seen something he wasn't supposed to...

and is getting "counselling" (like the cop in Canada that tried to speak up about corruption)
& Brandon Laub arrested & wisked off to a psych ward for criticizing his gov't on FB & whose lawyer said that he is getting thousands of calls of a similar nature to that of his client

"Brandon told his attorney that while in the psyc ward a shrink told him he was going to brain wash him and force him to take medication.

the whole thing stinks!

one of the firemen was a cop...

how "convenient" (maybe he was truly a good cop and was making trouble for the man, or was just a "great" pawn to use...)

Also, they let the 6 more houses burn for more effect!!!

they could have put them out but they "played" the whole thing out

with "armored vehicles"...(how conveniently located were they?)

and an evacuation


making a full impact on a whole community

(time it for max coverage when so many are home for holidays

also

information was not being released of how , where, and who actually pulled the trigger to shoot back at "him"


they could have done anything with radios... luring the real cops to a fake destination (where he "disappeared")...

while the murder gang got away in the other direction...


and FULL media!

another "gun" incident

and the guy and his sister were just scapegoats and poor and probably no relatives or people to be "interested"from a "positive" point of view.


how creepy!

not the mass deaths... but STILL an "anti-gun" message was the "POINT" of all the "newscasts"


...how scary that they are going through with it till they get their way

unless the humanity in humans rises & unites...

.... stay tuned more more gun atrocities (they are...trying for copy - cat so they won't have to keep instigating it themselves)

maybe that is the meaning behind kid's VIOLENT gun video games?

to take guns away?

to "program" future murderers/assasinators/killers (soldiers)? it wouldn't be the 1st time!!!!JFK, MLK, John Lennon & scores of others...

[link to www.wanttoknow.info]
MKUltra [link to en.wikipedia.org]

plenty of patsies out there, easy pickings for highly skilled strategist super criminal types like the ones lurking in the shadow govt's

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I can hardly stand the sound of it all
I can hardly stand the taste of it all
I can hardly stand the smell of it all"
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Slaughters by placid admirals
& that fat slow generals are getting
Obscene on young blood
Do you know we are ruled by tv”
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~ Amy Goodman

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"Only A Pawn In Their Game" song by Bob Dylan
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Not one report I have read or watched brings up the fact that felons already cannot own firearms, or even simply ask how he got them. Every one of them made damn sure to mention it was an AR-15 that was used though. Two tragic events really. Good, honorable men killed, and their deaths used to press a sinister agenda.





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