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Im not allowed in the U.S.A. anymore

 
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 06:55 PM
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I havent been shopping in the states since about 1995...
So I thought Id go help out the american economy a little on saturday & travel in to go get some last minute christmas shopping done

fat chance for me...

they turned me back & said I wasnt allowed in because of an old impaired charge I got 25 years ago here in canada

im 46 years old & the only criminal record I have is a 25 year old impaired (DUI) charge

now get this....

the car in front of me had five muslims in it & two of the ladies (I assume they were ladies) in the back of the car had head scarves covering their entire heads & faces

these people never got out of their vehicle at all & the women (I assume they were women) in the back never even removed the head scarves once

their vehicle went right through within 3 minutes ( I was held up an hour filling out paper work telling me im never allowed in)

I dont get it 1dunno1

I mean maybe they were law abiding american citizens for all I know ???

But I just dont get it ... how did the border agents even know if they were women ? or if they didnt each have explosives under all them sheets or burqa's ???

do the american border agents really have it against white canadians???

my impaired charge (DUI) 25 years ago wasnt even on american soil, it was in canada

I have zero criminal record in the U.S.

I just dont get it 1dunno1

is it a money grab ??
do they just hate white canadians ??
anybody else have this problem ??

they told me not to ever come back & if I did they'd lock me up because now that they've made me aware im not allowed back it would then be within their rights.. I was stunned

I wanted to ask them why they let the car full of towel heads in front of me in without even making them remove the head scarves but decided to shut my mouth

a 25 year old impaired charge 1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30797151


That last part about keeping your mouth shut was the smartest thing you did. I have discovered that the "force" is in charge and it is shoot to kill... always justified. Overall...stay out of the limelight and out of the way.
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 06:56 PM
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The USA is the equivalent of Hitler's Germany, circa 1934.

damned

It'll get MUCH worse, before it gets better. IF it ever does.
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12/24/2012 06:57 PM
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Why are people raging on the OP. He's only relating a story. A story that should make us all think.

I think the problem is that too many Canadians make so many disparaging remarks to Americans.

I for one find your story interesting and it baffles me.
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many Canadians make so many disparaging remarks to Americans

many Canadians make so many disparaging remarks to canadians too so dont take offense lol
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None taken.
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12/24/2012 06:57 PM

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So come in thru Mexico. it seems to be wide open.
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12/24/2012 06:58 PM
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Your racism is showing.
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well im not racist at all

but I still do not understand what you mean?
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Sometimes the truth is just racist. Like it or not.
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12/24/2012 06:59 PM
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Your racism is showing.
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well im not racist at all

but I still do not understand what you mean?
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Sometimes the truth is just racist. Like it or not.
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Sad and true!
Sharty Mc Bean

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12/24/2012 06:59 PM
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Your racism is showing.
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well im not racist at all

but I still do not understand what you mean?
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i allways lol when i hear someone say "i'm not a racist, but..."
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 07:01 PM
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You can get into US anytime you want, there are thousands of miles of open land between the US and canada. Just walk across.
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12/24/2012 07:02 PM
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Your racism is showing.
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well im not racist at all

but I still do not understand what you mean?
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i allways lol when i hear someone say "i'm not a racist, but..."
 Quoting: Sharty Mc Bean


racism does not exist.... but you sure at good at defining it!
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/24/2012 07:03 PM
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well I was just curious if anybody else experienced the same problem

the border agents did how ever give me paper work to fill out if I ever want the entry waiver for $1000

I thru the paper in the garbage when I got home

saturdays experience for me was enough to say fuck it... never again will I try

I used to go all the time up & until 1995

and even then I had that same DUI charge

funny..

but not really...
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 07:04 PM
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the only spike in "racism" is because of socioeconomic problems related to immigration currently. but,.... whatever.
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12/24/2012 07:05 PM
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You can get into US anytime you want, there are thousands of miles of open land between the US and canada. Just walk across.
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then id have to drag my christmas shopping bags over the hills & thru the snow
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 07:07 PM
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maybe u had a tattoo of a dick on your forehead?
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/24/2012 07:10 PM
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maybe u had a tattoo of a dick on your forehead?
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fuck that

after I seen yours on your forehead I decided I wasnt gonna get one
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 07:12 PM
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OP is such a whiner, I'm relieved they kept him out. Think of all the "OMG Strange whining noise heard !!" threads that would have been started.
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12/24/2012 07:13 PM

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I mean maybe they were law abiding american citizens for all I know ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30797151


That is why you did not get in.

The scanners they use now detect certain types of behavior at checkpoints.

Your anger and anxiety set off red flags.
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I doubt if he was angry or anxious up until he was refused entry.
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12/24/2012 07:17 PM
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ok I think I get it now....

this is all about the burning down the white house shit back in 1812 isnt it????

well whatever the reason... fuck it!

I dont even like shopping anyway & I heard vegas isnt all its cracked up to be anyways

& if this is an old grudge about the white house burning shit ... then I only have one thing to say about that even though I wasnt alive in 1812 .... next time dont invade canada & your little white house would have never been burned to the ground twice
imetthecreator

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12/24/2012 07:22 PM
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Where were you trying to cross over at OP? I am originally from Michigan and a buddy of mine has a sagetory conviction on his record [he was 19, she was 17] and he crossed numerous times at Detroit/Windsor.
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vermont
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derby line especially they are pricks at that station from what i heard
To the %99
Be glad you still are asleep and dream
awakening and knowing is the real nightmare
Anonymous Coward
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12/24/2012 07:23 PM
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first off, you were a drunken asshole on the road lucky you didnt kill somebody, and lucky you got caught before you did.
but aside from that, being it was 25 yrs ago.
why don't you look the information up on the internet with your computer.
if you didnt know already, now you do.
your not allowed into us because you have a criminal record.

you need to get a friggin Pardon. which takes a really long time like a fucken year and must be at least 5 years after the end of your last sentence for a criminal charge was complete.
it costs almost a bloody grand
they you get this gay piece of paper that says your record is sealed
but thats not all
if your even charged with any crime without ever even getting convicted in the future your record is reopened and its really hard to get a pardon again.

not only that but certain cuntries wont accept your pardon as ledgit and hold you convicted as a criminal for life like Satan that can never forgive anyone for anything.
including the most fucked up cuntry in the world USA

if you do get a pardon it really is useles for almost everything except that you can travel to the states again with conditions

you could just try sneaking by, but if they check you out then your supposed to have gotten a waiver in advance which means that any time you want to goto the us you need to plan it out in advance and pay some cunt money to let you go there
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/24/2012 07:26 PM
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Where were you trying to cross over at OP? I am originally from Michigan and a buddy of mine has a sagetory conviction on his record [he was 19, she was 17] and he crossed numerous times at Detroit/Windsor.
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vermont
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30797151


derby line especially they are pricks at that station from what i heard
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highgate springs
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/24/2012 07:29 PM
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first off, you were a drunken asshole on the road lucky you didnt kill somebody, and lucky you got caught before you did.
but aside from that, being it was 25 yrs ago.
why don't you look the information up on the internet with your computer.
if you didnt know already, now you do.
your not allowed into us because you have a criminal record.

you need to get a friggin Pardon. which takes a really long time like a fucken year and must be at least 5 years after the end of your last sentence for a criminal charge was complete.
it costs almost a bloody grand
they you get this gay piece of paper that says your record is sealed
but thats not all
if your even charged with any crime without ever even getting convicted in the future your record is reopened and its really hard to get a pardon again.

not only that but certain cuntries wont accept your pardon as ledgit and hold you convicted as a criminal for life like Satan that can never forgive anyone for anything.
including the most fucked up cuntry in the world USA

if you do get a pardon it really is useles for almost everything except that you can travel to the states again with conditions

you could just try sneaking by, but if they check you out then your supposed to have gotten a waiver in advance which means that any time you want to goto the us you need to plan it out in advance and pay some cunt money to let you go there
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oh ok,

asshole
Bowyn Aerrow

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12/24/2012 07:40 PM
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Considering I walk on a cane due to a drunk driver I have little empathy for people with DUI's and having that on their record haunt them for life.

Obviously the people in front of you didn't have any marks on their record. Meaning that while being Islamic in faith, they were good citizens who followed the law.

The majority of Muslims do consider their religion one of peace and like Christians disregard the hateful 'go out and kill' commandments. BOTH religions sacred books has a lot to say about keeping the purity of their religion with slaughter, mayhem and murder.

Profiling a whole group of people because a few are terrorists is wrong.

Considering all of the recent shootings, all done by white boys, if we applied your logic, every white male should be held for questioning.
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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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12/24/2012 07:50 PM
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Considering I walk on a cane due to a drunk driver I have little empathy for people with DUI's and having that on their record haunt them for life.

Obviously the people in front of you didn't have any marks on their record. Meaning that while being Islamic in faith, they were good citizens who followed the law.

The majority of Muslims do consider their religion one of peace and like Christians disregard the hateful 'go out and kill' commandments. BOTH religions sacred books has a lot to say about keeping the purity of their religion with slaughter, mayhem and murder.

Profiling a whole group of people because a few are terrorists is wrong.

Considering all of the recent shootings, all done by white boys, if we applied your logic, every white male should be held for questioning.
 Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow


I wasnt looking for empathy

& I wasnt putting down muslims

I was only asking if anyone else has experienced the same situation

& from what I now hear ... yes.. any criminal charge, no matter how minor & harmless, will prevent entrance to the U.S. even if those offenses were committed elsewhere outside of the U.S. & also no matter how many ages ago these offenses occurred.

but I clearly see the money grab ...

"your dangerous & we dont want you in here"
"pay $1000 & now your allowed in here because your not dangerous anymore"

took me awhile to see it, but now I see it clearly > MONEY GRAB

obviously if Im so dangerous that im not allowed in the U.S. then no cash would change that.

I see the truth now.
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12/24/2012 07:52 PM
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I mean maybe they were law abiding american citizens for all I know ???
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That is why you did not get in.

The scanners they use now detect certain types of behavior at checkpoints.

Your anger and anxiety set off red flags.
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That is why the emperor couldn't get a job in Canada.

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12/24/2012 08:16 PM

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Thanks for posting this, OP. It's an interesting anecdote and an important insight into how US border agents are handling visitors. It's chilling that they have instant access to such an old driving record - why would the Canadian government make that information available to a foreign government?

I was recently travelling thru the Honolulu airport, and watched as a TSA agent literally screamed at an older Kiwi gentleman because he hadn't removed his belt, thus setting off the metal detector. The screaming drew a lot of attention, he was understandably upset and humiliated.

I don't blame you at all for not wanting to return to the US, and I'm sorry it's come to this. No question that our economy could've used your support.
"When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." - T. Jefferson
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12/24/2012 08:18 PM
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$1000 for a entry waiver to go shopping for the day

that sounds pricy

is a good way to go broke before you even hit the stores
s. d. butler

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12/24/2012 09:37 PM
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I havent been shopping in the states since about 1995...
So I thought Id go help out the american economy a little on saturday & travel in to go get some last minute christmas shopping done

fat chance for me...

they turned me back & said I wasnt allowed in because of an old impaired charge I got 25 years ago here in canada

im 46 years old & the only criminal record I have is a 25 year old impaired (DUI) charge

now get this....

the car in front of me had five muslims in it & two of the ladies (I assume they were ladies) in the back of the car had head scarves covering their entire heads & faces

these people never got out of their vehicle at all & the women (I assume they were women) in the back never even removed the head scarves once

their vehicle went right through within 3 minutes ( I was held up an hour filling out paper work telling me im never allowed in)

I dont get it 1dunno1

I mean maybe they were law abiding american citizens for all I know ???

But I just dont get it ... how did the border agents even know if they were women ? or if they didnt each have explosives under all them sheets or burqa's ???

do the american border agents really have it against white canadians???

my impaired charge (DUI) 25 years ago wasnt even on american soil, it was in canada

I have zero criminal record in the U.S.

I just dont get it 1dunno1

is it a money grab ??
do they just hate white canadians ??
anybody else have this problem ??

they told me not to ever come back & if I did they'd lock me up because now that they've made me aware im not allowed back it would then be within their rights.. I was stunned

I wanted to ask them why they let the car full of towel heads in front of me in without even making them remove the head scarves but decided to shut my mouth

a 25 year old impaired charge 1dunno1
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30797151


That is completely wrong and stupid. I have a friend who can't go to Canada because of the exact same situation,the only difference is the D.U.I. is a bit more recent.

Sympathies. But that is what gubmints do.
s. d. butler

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12/24/2012 09:41 PM
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Thanks for posting this, OP. It's an interesting anecdote and an important insight into how US border agents are handling visitors. It's chilling that they have instant access to such an old driving record - why would the Canadian government make that information available to a foreign government?

I was recently travelling thru the Honolulu airport, and watched as a TSA agent literally screamed at an older Kiwi gentleman because he hadn't removed his belt, thus setting off the metal detector. The screaming drew a lot of attention, he was understandably upset and humiliated.

I don't blame you at all for not wanting to return to the US, and I'm sorry it's come to this. No question that our economy could've used your support.
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The U.S. and Canadian gubmints have agreements, locking down the two countries. All about people control
IssueX

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12/24/2012 09:41 PM
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We dont need anymore criminals in the US. Stay in Canada you dick.
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you sounded just like the border agent

really you call people with a DUI from 25 years ago a criminal ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30797151


that sounds like overzealous ridiculous border guard activity

nothing seems as easy or relaxed as it was just 10 years ago...

supposedly, nothing is the same after 9/11

funny that we went through 2 world wars, pearl harbor, cold war tensions, all the 'red scare' communist terrorist groups in the 60s and 70s, and we were still allowed to travel with some respect

but 9/11, and that's it....new order ushered in, and in many places totally affected by that event
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12/24/2012 09:44 PM
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maybe u had a tattoo of a dick on your forehead?
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fuck that

after I seen yours on your forehead I decided I wasnt gonna get one
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30797151


lmfao

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