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I hadn't heard this story...

Local pastor Jim Solomon, who spoke to the first grader after Friday's mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., recounted the story to ABC News. Of 16 children in the classroom, the unidentified girl was the only survivor.

"She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood and the first thing she said to her mom was, 'Mommy, I'm OK but all my friends are dead,'" Solomon said. "Somehow in that moment, by God's grace, she was able to act as she was already deceased."

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]


So, someone said there were "16 angels" in Ms' Soto's class. Does that mean this report is about her class?

If there are 15 kids killed in this class, and it is not Ms. Soto's class...

Then the remainder of killed kids has to be from her class, has to equal 5 killed for the numbers to square.

Any info appreciated. Thanks
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Re: Help Me Out Here - She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood??
You seem determined. Collect it all while you can.
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Re: Help Me Out Here - She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood??
I think the lone survivor child was said to come from Roussue's class...Soto's had the children that she hid in the closet, also the rosen kids came from Soto's class

But the statement that "She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood..." sounds like a bunch of made-up tear-jerker drama

the only kids that "ran out of the school building" before, during or after the shooting were the Rosen kids...
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I think the lone survivor child was said to come from Roussue's class...Soto's had the children that she hid in the closet, also the rosen kids came from Soto's class

But the statement that "She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood..." sounds like a bunch of made-up tear-jerker drama

the only kids that "ran out of the school building" before, during or after the shooting were the Rosen kids...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280257


The Rosen kids are a made up story, as well, but yeah, I can't imagine after all that time any kid ran out of the school unescorted. Thanks, for the teacher info.
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I hadn't heard this story...

Local pastor Jim Solomon, who spoke to the first grader after Friday's mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., recounted the story to ABC News. Of 16 children in the classroom, the unidentified girl was the only survivor.

"She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood and the first thing she said to her mom was, 'Mommy, I'm OK but all my friends are dead,'" Solomon said. "Somehow in that moment, by God's grace, she was able to act as she was already deceased."

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]


So, someone said there were "16 angels" in Ms' Soto's class. Does that mean this report is about her class?

If there are 15 kids killed in this class, and it is not Ms. Soto's class...

Then the remainder of killed kids has to be from her class, has to equal 5 killed for the numbers to square.

Any info appreciated. Thanks
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


Yea, I gave up even trying to point out the inconsistencies and straight out lies about this FF. People have been watching MSM for so long now that it is virtually impossible to convince them that this shooting never took place. It's important to see how these lying bastards work and discover their slip ups so we know what to look or next time, and can hopefully sound the cannons before MSM gets to the people, but besides that I am done with Sandy Hook. You and I and a few others saw this lie from the get-go, but few others can accept that their government/media would be so bold as to fabricate the whole thing. Even after 9/11. It's sad really...
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Re: Help Me Out Here - She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood??
Yea...the whole thing is a made up story but like 'pilot said, convincing people is futile on this one, as it has been on all the previous FFs. This one is different though, I think one of the reasons children were used this time is to "naturally" minimise the blowback in a way that squelched all questions on moral grounds and leaves them able to get away with the big lies...its just too touchy a subject.
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so, yah'all are saying if I went to Sandy hook and low crawled my ass up in there. I would find no blood, no bullet holes, no stench, no nothin?
personaly I would find a death squad with mp5's more believable.
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[link to www.courant.com]

The above linked article, from 12/15 at 11:44pm has the following description of Ms. Soto's class:

"Lanza next arrived at teacher Victoria Soto's classroom. Soto is believed to have hidden her 6- and 7-year old students in a classroom closet. When Lanza demanded to know where the children were, Soto tried to divert him to the other end of the school by saying that her students were in the auditorium.

But six of Soto's students tried to flee. Lanza shot them, Soto and another teacher who was in the room. Later, in their search for survivors, police found the remaining seven of Soto's students still hiding in the closet. They told the police what had happened."

13 total students from Soto's: seven, survivors, six slain.

Here's the Dec. 22 story from the courant with different numbers: [link to www.courant.com]

"The arriving officers encountered a shocking scene in Soto's classroom. Lanza had shot her, as well as special education teacher Anne Marie Murphy and six of Soto's 6- and 7-year old students. Seven of Soto's students were found huddled and unharmed in a classroom closet, apparently hidden by Soto when she heard shooting. The other students fled the classroom."

19 total students from Soto's here: seven in the closet, six slain, and the "other" students who fled the classroom; six of them if you buy the Rosen story.

Glaring inconsistency. Both stories are still on their website, so screenshot them.

Anyone have reports of the total
number of kids in Soto's class to start?
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Anyone have reports of the total
number of kids in Soto's class to start?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


A friend posted this picture of Vicki on her Tumblr page where she said she had talked to her on Tuesday "and she told me she loved her 16 angels and never wanted to let them go." She added: "Today when the shooting started Vicki hid her kids in closets and when the gunman came into her room she said the class was in gym. She was then murdered. Not one of her students were harmed. Words can not express how heartbreaking and tragic this is. I will miss you dearly."

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
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Re: Help Me Out Here - She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood??
Anyone have reports of the total
number of kids in Soto's class to start?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


A friend posted this picture of Vicki on her Tumblr page where she said she had talked to her on Tuesday "and she told me she loved her 16 angels and never wanted to let them go." She added: "Today when the shooting started Vicki hid her kids in closets and when the gunman came into her room she said the class was in gym. She was then murdered. Not one of her students were harmed. Words can not express how heartbreaking and tragic this is. I will miss you dearly."

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


If there were 16 to start, 7 in the closet, 6 slain, that only leaves 3 to end up at Rosen's. He said 6.

The friend who posted on tumblr might not have accurate information to start, but there must be a way, through the school or by some other means, to know how many students were present in Ms. Soto's class before the shooting.
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Re: Help Me Out Here - She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood??
Yea...the whole thing is a made up story but like 'pilot said, convincing people is futile on this one, as it has been on all the previous FFs. This one is different though, I think one of the reasons children were used this time is to "naturally" minimise the blowback in a way that squelched all questions on moral grounds and leaves them able to get away with the big lies...its just too touchy a subject.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1280257




Agreed.

Kinda like the way they put a black foreigner in the White House.
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Re: Help Me Out Here - She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood??
Anyone have reports of the total
number of kids in Soto's class to start?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


A friend posted this picture of Vicki on her Tumblr page where she said she had talked to her on Tuesday "and she told me she loved her 16 angels and never wanted to let them go." She added: "Today when the shooting started Vicki hid her kids in closets and when the gunman came into her room she said the class was in gym. She was then murdered. Not one of her students were harmed. Words can not express how heartbreaking and tragic this is. I will miss you dearly."

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


If there were 16 to start, 7 in the closet, 6 slain, that only leaves 3 to end up at Rosen's. He said 6.

The friend who posted on tumblr might not have accurate information to start, but there must be a way, through the school or by some other means, to know how many students were present in Ms. Soto's class before the shooting.
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


Class photo, maybe. They published one of Rouseau's class, minus her face, and minus the famous Emile child. Maybe there's one out there of Soto's class.
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Re: Help Me Out Here - She ran out of the school building covered from head to toe with blood??
Anyone have reports of the total
number of kids in Soto's class to start?
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


A friend posted this picture of Vicki on her Tumblr page where she said she had talked to her on Tuesday "and she told me she loved her 16 angels and never wanted to let them go." She added: "Today when the shooting started Vicki hid her kids in closets and when the gunman came into her room she said the class was in gym. She was then murdered. Not one of her students were harmed. Words can not express how heartbreaking and tragic this is. I will miss you dearly."

Read more: [link to www.nydailynews.com]
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


If there were 16 to start, 7 in the closet, 6 slain, that only leaves 3 to end up at Rosen's. He said 6.

The friend who posted on tumblr might not have accurate information to start, but there must be a way, through the school or by some other means, to know how many students were present in Ms. Soto's class before the shooting.
 Quoting: GladioDaddy-O


Class photo, maybe. They published one of Rouseau's class, minus her face, and minus the famous Emile child. Maybe there's one out there of Soto's class.
 Quoting: New Age Messiah


I found it.
[link to www.bing.com]

Shows 15 kids. The Courant's latest article cited in my previous post adds up to 19. Sure, kids could have been absent from the picture. Stiil don't know the total number of kids present in Soto's class on 12/14.
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