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Sandy Hook....No AR-15!!!!!

 
Dr Einstein

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is the YouTube "NBC News" video a forgery?

wtf
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THIS IS VERY STRANGE

we have this YouTube video of an NBC News broadcast saying
that the AR-15 was not used at Sandy Hook.

BUT, i cant' find any direct websites where NBC is
saying this again in print. the only references to this
NBC-youtube report are found on "fringe" websites.

and a google search turns up no other significant mentions
of this new astounding information.

wtf wtf

wtf
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


is the YouTube "NBC News" video a forgery?

wtf
Dr Einstein

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from another thread:

Jesus I hope this NO AR bullshit dies in a fire (distraction story)... it's not NEW at all...

That's a news report from the DAY OF THE EVENT... it is old FALSE information that is no longer relevant. Please stay focused on the real information please... and try not to fall for every distraction put in front of your face (and for the record NOT a single printed news report backs up that NBC video fake claim).
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Update.... Confirmed, AR-15 in mother's car. Not brought in the school! Here we go!


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


if you look at picture of the 2 nuns id say they have MP5s [link to pix11.com]
 Quoting: icyman61


Those nuns look suspicious as fuck, clothes are just so "perfect," one is holding her coat like she has a damn AR up in there...plus car keys in hand ready to split? Lmao..
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Let's ban nuns from school property.
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Update.... Confirmed, AR-15 in mother's car. Not brought in the school! Here we go!


[link to www.youtube.com]
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


if you look at picture of the 2 nuns id say they have MP5s [link to pix11.com]
 Quoting: icyman61


Those nuns look suspicious as fuck, clothes are just so "perfect," one is holding her coat like she has a damn AR up in there...plus car keys in hand ready to split? Lmao..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27792917



Let's ban nuns from school property.
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and, especially, laughing monsignors!
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DENVER, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 31, 2012) - A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.
Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.
The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios.
The actors regularly rehearse scenarios involving the Incident Command System and crisis communications, and appear in interactive training films produced in both 2D and stereoscopic 3D.
Producers Jennifer McCray-Rincon and John Simmons formed the group to demonstrate emerging security technologies, help first responders visualize life-saving procedures, and assist trainers in delivering superior hands-on crisis response training.
For example, with a large shopping center, the producers review all security camera views and design dramatic scenes specifically for existing camera angles, robotic camera sweeps, and manually-controlled camera moves.
The producers then work with the trainers to create a "prompt book" for the actors so that key scenario developments can be triggered throughout the mall shooting simulation, and caught on tape.
The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall, shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall.
Visionbox Crisis Actors can also play the role of citizens calling 911 or mall management, or posting comments on social media websites.
During the exercise, the producers use two-way radio to co-direct the Crisis Actors team from the mall dispatch center and at actors' locations.
Within this framework, the exercise can test the mall's monitoring and communications systems, the mall's safety plan including lockdown and evacuation procedures, the ability of first responders and the mall to coordinate an effective response, and their joint ability to respond to the media and information posted on the Internet.
Security camera footage is edited for after-action reports and future training.
For more information visit www.Visionbox.org and www.CrisisActors.org.
Visionbox is a project of the Colorado Nonprofit Development Center. Crisis Actors is a project of the Colorado Safety Task Force established by Colorado State Senator Steve King.
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Need to send this to somebody. Interested to see where they were the day of the mall shooting, phone records, ct shooting etc. this should be plastered all of drudgereport.com
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DENVER, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 31, 2012) - A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.
Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.
The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios.
The actors regularly rehearse scenarios involving the Incident Command System and crisis communications, and appear in interactive training films produced in both 2D and stereoscopic 3D.
Producers Jennifer McCray-Rincon and John Simmons formed the group to demonstrate emerging security technologies, help first responders visualize life-saving procedures, and assist trainers in delivering superior hands-on crisis response training.
For example, with a large shopping center, the producers review all security camera views and design dramatic scenes specifically for existing camera angles, robotic camera sweeps, and manually-controlled camera moves.
The producers then work with the trainers to create a "prompt book" for the actors so that key scenario developments can be triggered throughout the mall shooting simulation, and caught on tape.
The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall, shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall.
Visionbox Crisis Actors can also play the role of citizens calling 911 or mall management, or posting comments on social media websites.
During the exercise, the producers use two-way radio to co-direct the Crisis Actors team from the mall dispatch center and at actors' locations.
Within this framework, the exercise can test the mall's monitoring and communications systems, the mall's safety plan including lockdown and evacuation procedures, the ability of first responders and the mall to coordinate an effective response, and their joint ability to respond to the media and information posted on the Internet.
Security camera footage is edited for after-action reports and future training.
For more information visit www.Visionbox.org and www.CrisisActors.org.
Visionbox is a project of the Colorado Nonprofit Development Center. Crisis Actors is a project of the Colorado Safety Task Force established by Colorado State Senator Steve King.
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Need to send this to somebody. Interested to see where they were the day of the mall shooting, phone records, ct shooting etc. this should be plastered all of drudgereport.com
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6545575

Sandy Hook?

actors, my ass.

these were cold-blooded blood-thirsty killers.
Dr Einstein

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some of the scenarios i've read make this sound like
a training exercise for some bizarre assassination squad,
and Sandy Hook Elementary School was nothing more than a "proving grounds".
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[link to forums.radioreference.com]

EDIT: FIXED LINK

This is Radio Reference forum where people listen live to police scanners.

See about half way down comments about the masked nuns that police were looking for.

Further down on page mentioned TWO HAND GUNS FOUND WITH DEAD SHOOTER Nothing out of cops' mouths said anything about a rifle


The audio for this is also on that site
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog



At 11:37am "It is confirmed that 3 people have been transported to Danbury Hospital, unknown / unconfirmed injuries. the shooter is DOA, two guns retrieved from him."

Why would LE send the dead shooter to the hospital by ambulance and not send other victims?
Dr Einstein

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DENVER, CO--(Marketwire - Oct 31, 2012) - A new group of actors is now available nationwide for active shooter drills and mall shooting full-scale exercises, announced Visionbox, Denver's leading professional actors studio.
Visionbox Crisis Actors are trained in criminal and victim behavior, and bring intense realism to simulated mass casualty incidents in public places.
The actors' stage acting experience, ranging from Shakespeare to contemporary American theater, enables them to "stay in character" throughout an exercise, and improvise scenes of extreme stress while strictly following official exercise scenarios.
The actors regularly rehearse scenarios involving the Incident Command System and crisis communications, and appear in interactive training films produced in both 2D and stereoscopic 3D.
Producers Jennifer McCray-Rincon and John Simmons formed the group to demonstrate emerging security technologies, help first responders visualize life-saving procedures, and assist trainers in delivering superior hands-on crisis response training.
For example, with a large shopping center, the producers review all security camera views and design dramatic scenes specifically for existing camera angles, robotic camera sweeps, and manually-controlled camera moves.
The producers then work with the trainers to create a "prompt book" for the actors so that key scenario developments can be triggered throughout the mall shooting simulation, and caught on tape.
The actors can play the part of the shooters, mall employees, shoppers in the mall, shoppers who continue to arrive at the mall, media reporters and others rushing to the mall, and persons in motor vehicles around the mall.
Visionbox Crisis Actors can also play the role of citizens calling 911 or mall management, or posting comments on social media websites.
During the exercise, the producers use two-way radio to co-direct the Crisis Actors team from the mall dispatch center and at actors' locations.
Within this framework, the exercise can test the mall's monitoring and communications systems, the mall's safety plan including lockdown and evacuation procedures, the ability of first responders and the mall to coordinate an effective response, and their joint ability to respond to the media and information posted on the Internet.
Security camera footage is edited for after-action reports and future training.
For more information visit www.Visionbox.org and www.CrisisActors.org.
Visionbox is a project of the Colorado Nonprofit Development Center. Crisis Actors is a project of the Colorado Safety Task Force established by Colorado State Senator Steve King.
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Need to send this to somebody. Interested to see where they were the day of the mall shooting, phone records, ct shooting etc. this should be plastered all of drudgereport.com
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6545575

Sandy Hook?

actors, my ass.

these were cold-blooded blood-thirsty killers.
 Quoting: Dr Einstein


or, as the sheriff in the movie "Kill Bill" said: "yup, this was the work of a salllty-dawg".
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bump
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18 of the children were all huddled in a closet.

If the shooter shot through the thick school doors, the bullets would have been mushed and fragmented, probably impossible to tell what kind of gun they came from.
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when the police show up and there's a bunch of people shot, the first thing they are worried about is getting killed themselves, so they are obviously paranoid about there being other shooters, that could attack them from the perimeter or something, so of course the first thing they do is run around making sure there are absolutely no other accomplices.
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I'm moving on. People lie. We know that much. Are we all suckers falling for the intentional confusion of the MSM?
Maybe. Maybe I'm a sheep when I thought I wasn't. This video makes me wonder.

[link to www.youtube.com]
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
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Pin it!!
 Quoting: 7.83Hz


Stop saying pin it... this is obviously an old news report from shortly after the event... why are people assuming this was just aired today?

Go to Google and find a current news report about this I dare you...
 Quoting: TruthNow88


First of all, this has already been pinned. And secondly, this is the latest update as of 12-21-2012, when everyone was distracted by doom. You know, like when bills are passed on New Years Eve? Got it Shill?
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Hey OP, how did you determine the date of that NBC video to by from the 21st? I can't see any date on the footage.
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hiding
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Pin it!!
 Quoting: 7.83Hz


Stop saying pin it... this is obviously an old news report from shortly after the event... why are people assuming this was just aired today?

Go to Google and find a current news report about this I dare you...
 Quoting: TruthNow88


First of all, this has already been pinned. And secondly, this is the latest update as of 12-21-2012, when everyone was distracted by doom. You know, like when bills are passed on New Years Eve? Got it Shill?
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Hey OP, how did you determine the date of that NBC video to by from the 21st? I can't see any date on the footage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Sorry OP, that video is from the 15th.

Still, It goes to show that whatever "officials" Pete Williams the "Chief Justice Correspondent" of NBC news is using either gave him false information, or it was true information, but either way, someone was covering up something.

Good thread.
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Stop saying pin it... this is obviously an old news report from shortly after the event... why are people assuming this was just aired today?

Go to Google and find a current news report about this I dare you...
 Quoting: TruthNow88


First of all, this has already been pinned. And secondly, this is the latest update as of 12-21-2012, when everyone was distracted by doom. You know, like when bills are passed on New Years Eve? Got it Shill?
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Hey OP, how did you determine the date of that NBC video to by from the 21st? I can't see any date on the footage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Sorry OP, that video is from the 15th.

Still, It goes to show that whatever "officials" Pete Williams the "Chief Justice Correspondent" of NBC news is using either gave him false information, or it was true information, but either way, someone was covering up something.

Good thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Sorry, here is the link to Mediate showing that video on 12/15

[link to www.mediaite.com]
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When I started this thread I still did not know the date of the original broadcast. From reading articles in reference to the quote there had been no further updates by law enforcement, as of the date of those articles, the 21st. If anyone has something more interesting to post, good luck to you all. My patty-cake playing days on this site are over.
Peace.
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P.S-
TruthNow88, you took what I said out of context. That does not win you arguments or friends.
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the shooter would have loaded each weapon clip,beforehand, didn't re load clips at scene.

use rifle first to shoot through entrance and first victims clips empty on rifle.

put in car boot , retrieve more loaded handguns, continue with days events.


later reports, post confusion, say the rifle was fired empty and equipped with a high capcity clip.


witnesses saw him discharging both handgun and rifle.

there is no confirmation anywhere a rifle was not used.

videos are also creatively edited.


FAIL
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i have written to my congressman and senator
and told them both that we should let the guntards keep
one six-shooter revolver. (for personal protection)

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Stop saying pin it... this is obviously an old news report from shortly after the event... why are people assuming this was just aired today?

Go to Google and find a current news report about this I dare you...
 Quoting: TruthNow88


First of all, this has already been pinned. And secondly, this is the latest update as of 12-21-2012, when everyone was distracted by doom. You know, like when bills are passed on New Years Eve? Got it Shill?
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Hey OP, how did you determine the date of that NBC video to by from the 21st? I can't see any date on the footage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Sorry OP, that video is from the 15th.

Still, It goes to show that whatever "officials" Pete Williams the "Chief Justice Correspondent" of NBC news is using either gave him false information, or it was true information, but either way, someone was covering up something.

Good thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


yes, that was all that bad mis-information that was
going on way back.

the important point is that it WAS NOT a news report
that was made today about "new developments".
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First of all, this has already been pinned. And secondly, this is the latest update as of 12-21-2012, when everyone was distracted by doom. You know, like when bills are passed on New Years Eve? Got it Shill?
 Quoting: RANDOMguy


Hey OP, how did you determine the date of that NBC video to by from the 21st? I can't see any date on the footage.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Sorry OP, that video is from the 15th.

Still, It goes to show that whatever "officials" Pete Williams the "Chief Justice Correspondent" of NBC news is using either gave him false information, or it was true information, but either way, someone was covering up something.

Good thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


yes, that was all that bad mis-information that was
going on way back.

the important point is that it WAS NOT a news report
that was made today about "new developments".
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


That point was acknowledged. You are belaboring it, and it is far from the "important" point of the discussion in this thread.

A more important point is to note that the misinformation was purposeful. And NBC never "retracted" that. That was a serious update wherein their "Chief Justice correspondent" was quoting his "official local and state sources" who were apparently correcting an earlier report.

Which cannot then be blamed on the passion of the moment reporting that led to the original report of 2 pistols and some rifles needing to be "officially" contradicted.

No, this is tantamount to either gross incompetency, OR even worse, calculated fog of war misinformation to cause confusion.

As an example see the early AP reports. The AP reporters were either being fed incredibly bad info from sources they were claiming were law enforcement officials, OR the AP reporters were just MAKING THINGS UP (lying through their teeth).

Which sets a narrative into motion, because most people just hear and believe the first reports, and their minds are then infected with untruth from then on. PSY OPS.

And even more DIRECT proof of conspiracy to sew misinformation was found when the NEWTOWN BEE published a retraction wherein they state their original wrong story was writen based on information gained when their reporter interviewed someone who impersonated the principal and gave the principal's name DAWN HOCHSPRUNG.

Or did you miss that one too?

So again, you missed what was most important about the op bringing up this video. It was not so important that he thought it might have been a very recent update, and it was already acknowledged and corrected before you piped in with your "most important" nonsense.
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Hmmm!?


[link to www.youtube.com]
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what?

we can't believe anything the medical examiner says
any more than we can believe anything those bozo government
officials in Sandy Hook say.

we are completely in the dark about this whole thing.
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Update.... Confirmed, AR-15 in mother's car. Not brought in the school! Here we go!


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please see...

Thread: Sandy Hook - #1 Inconsistency - Contradictory Statement in this Saga

Thread: MUST SEE: medical examiner video from scene.. wowè crazy wierd shit! not normal... great video

[link to www.youtube.com]

And so many more...
"I think, therefore I am..."
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"I don't think, therefore I am not..."
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RockHall, we've been fighting the battle all day.
that NBC news report is from Dec. 15, and it is
the initial mis-information that was put out during
all the chaos.

don't waste anymore of your time on this rabbit.
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Update.... Confirmed, AR-15 in mother's car. Not brought in the school! Here we go!


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if you look at picture of the 2 nuns id say they have MP5s [link to pix11.com]
 Quoting: icyman61


Here is a piece of information:

The "nuns" were (are), in fact, males.

MP5's were not used, but another 9mm weapon was.

I will be watching to see what is being done with this information.

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