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I am being FORCED into this SHIT! Christmas!

 
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You must be a real blast throughout the year, in the next two months is geared up for Valentine's Day, then Passover 2 months later.
Your whole year is pretty fucked isn't it OP? Let me guess none of it can be laid at your feet.
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Doesn't matter if you believe in God or not. You will be judged and if you don't wake up soon you aren't going to like when that day comes. Quit being selfish and enjoy being with your girlfriends family ya Scrooge

Oh and maybe this will help u wake up!


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I have just about f'ing had it up to my cranium!

Having just spent the last 2 months being force-fed Christmas crap by various advertizing and town festive lights I am now expected to go and 'celebrate' this shit, and go to see family members in the name of a festival that I DO NOT believe in... I am an Atheist, why the hell should I?

No but my GF says that I have to be present (pardon the pun)!

Now if I do not attend this family gathering I will be subject to taunts of miserable all day if not for the next 2-weeks. I'm sick of it... why force someone into something that they really do not want to do... it sucks!

rant
 Quoting: NOT HAPPY 17988798


What caliber of gun do they point at your head?

Seriously, man, start drawing some boundaries, and stand your ground.

So what if you are "taunted" for two weeks? Get over it.

If you politely, firmly, clearly, and without malice, simply state that you have other plans... you do not have to accept any invitation anywhere. Ever.

Those "other plans" may be to clean your toenails while hanging out in GLP in your pajamas, but they are legitimately 'other plans', and you are under no compulsion to explain them.

So this year, since you acted like you were going along with all the fake festive shit... you have to suck it up and go and endure it.

But start laying the groundwork now for next year. Let everyone know as soon as politely, clearly, and firmly as possible that you have "other plans" for next "Christ"mas.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird




WELL SAID!!!

I believe in God and Christ but, I do not believe in celebrating 'Christmas'. My family and friends have known this for years and don't expect me to be present for anything that resembles any kind of christmas celebration. Some still send christmas cards but, they know that they won't be receiving one from me. I send out 'I"m thinking of You' notes (I make them)randomly during the year.

I have told them that any other time of the year that they want to have a family get together just for the sake of getting together that I would most certainly attend.
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I have just about f'ing had it up to my cranium!

Having just spent the last 2 months being force-fed Christmas crap by various advertizing and town festive lights I am now expected to go and 'celebrate' this shit, and go to see family members in the name of a festival that I DO NOT believe in... I am an Atheist, why the hell should I?

No but my GF says that I have to be present (pardon the pun)!

Now if I do not attend this family gathering I will be subject to taunts of miserable all day if not for the next 2-weeks. I'm sick of it... why force someone into something that they really do not want to do... it sucks!

rant
 Quoting: NOT HAPPY 17988798



Then you should fit in nicely with the pagans seeing that christmass is not a christian holiday by any means ...
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For the most there is a lot of good advice... there was compromise as we came home early.

As for those stating the obvious with their 'grow a pair' tactics - well that is just that, sometimes that rhetoric is not an option, we are all different. The world would be a boring place if we all felt the same.

No... it was compromise. I didn't have to sit there and join in per se, but the awkwardness of the situation was obvious for myself.

I just cannot stand having to put up with some of the dross that happens at this time of year in the name of corporate development be it religious or not.

Some of you guys who are not Atheist (BTW I do actually hate that word because it I do not hold a belief system as such to attach nonsensical wording to it) really have no idea what a person like myself has to endure - or maybe you do because you are often persecuted for your belief system.

As one reply stated... and I agree... I have laid out my plan and will not be doing it again.

However my family have the opportunity to see me all year round I do not want to get together with people gathering around something I have entirely no need for or believe in.

As for someone calling me miserable... why just because I do not follow faith? I have hour of fun and entertainment without the need to attach crosses and tinsel encrusted trees to my life... in fact that tree would have been much happier growing out in the sticks where it belongs and noit cut down for a stupid corporate Christmas.

i believe opposite to someone who is choosing to bash me as miserable because I hold no faith... it is faith that gave you the choice to call me out as miserable... yeah very religious of you.

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I have just about f'ing had it up to my cranium!

Having just spent the last 2 months being force-fed Christmas crap by various advertizing and town festive lights I am now expected to go and 'celebrate' this shit, and go to see family members in the name of a festival that I DO NOT believe in... I am an Atheist, why the hell should I?

No but my GF says that I have to be present (pardon the pun)!

Now if I do not attend this family gathering I will be subject to taunts of miserable all day if not for the next 2-weeks. I'm sick of it... why force someone into something that they really do not want to do... it sucks!

rant
 Quoting: NOT HAPPY 17988798



Then you should fit in nicely with the pagans seeing that christmass is not a christian holiday by any means ...
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Entirely the opposite... The winter solstice is not the 25th.
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OP.....since you are atheist and Christmas has nothing to do with the Savior of the Bible.....you're all set. What are you complaining about?
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I have just about f'ing had it up to my cranium!

Having just spent the last 2 months being force-fed Christmas crap by various advertizing and town festive lights I am now expected to go and 'celebrate' this shit, and go to see family members in the name of a festival that I DO NOT believe in... I am an Atheist, why the hell should I?

No but my GF says that I have to be present (pardon the pun)!

Now if I do not attend this family gathering I will be subject to taunts of miserable all day if not for the next 2-weeks. I'm sick of it... why force someone into something that they really do not want to do... it sucks!

rant
 Quoting: NOT HAPPY 17988798


What caliber of gun do they point at your head?

Seriously, man, start drawing some boundaries, and stand your ground.

So what if you are "taunted" for two weeks? Get over it.

If you politely, firmly, clearly, and without malice, simply state that you have other plans... you do not have to accept any invitation anywhere. Ever.

Those "other plans" may be to clean your toenails while hanging out in GLP in your pajamas, but they are legitimately 'other plans', and you are under no compulsion to explain them.

So this year, since you acted like you were going along with all the fake festive shit... you have to suck it up and go and endure it.

But start laying the groundwork now for next year. Let everyone know as soon as politely, clearly, and firmly as possible that you have "other plans" for next "Christ"mas.
 Quoting: goodmockingbird




WELL SAID!!!

I believe in God and Christ but, I do not believe in celebrating 'Christmas'. My family and friends have known this for years and don't expect me to be present for anything that resembles any kind of christmas celebration. Some still send christmas cards but, they know that they won't be receiving one from me. I send out 'I"m thinking of You' notes (I make them)randomly during the year.

I have told them that any other time of the year that they want to have a family get together just for the sake of getting together that I would most certainly attend.
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Exactly the same for me. I'm so glad to hear that others are standing up for the truth.
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Atheists are miserable people
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Funny that, because if I'd invited some xtians to my little solstice fire celebration I'm sure they'd tell me to get lost with my pagan beliefs, yet everyone is expected and downright harrassed and harrangued into celebrating something they dislike and don't believe in or they're labelled as "miserable people".

How are you supposed to be happy when you're having somebody else's beliefs absolutely rammed down your throat by pretty much the entire world?

Leave people alone if that's what they want you bully.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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Atheists are miserable people
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Funny that, because if I'd invited some xtians to my little solstice fire celebration I'm sure they'd tell me to get lost with my pagan beliefs, yet everyone is expected and downright harrassed and harrangued into celebrating something they dislike and don't believe in or they're labelled as "miserable people".

How are you supposed to be happy when you're having somebody else's beliefs absolutely rammed down your throat by pretty much the entire world?

Leave people alone if that's what they want you bully.
 Quoting: ming


Hit the nail on the head... Thanks :)
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I have just about f'ing had it up to my cranium!

Having just spent the last 2 months being force-fed Christmas crap by various advertizing and town festive lights I am now expected to go and 'celebrate' this shit, and go to see family members in the name of a festival that I DO NOT believe in... I am an Atheist, why the hell should I?

No but my GF says that I have to be present (pardon the pun)!

Now if I do not attend this family gathering I will be subject to taunts of miserable all day if not for the next 2-weeks. I'm sick of it... why force someone into something that they really do not want to do... it sucks!

rant
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Every year around Christmas for almost 10 years or so now, I start feeling weird when my family starts celebrating Christmas...
Today, since in Germany we celebrate Christmas in the evening, it wasn`t any different, short before the Celebrations started, I started feeling weird again, like every year.
This feeling only leaves me again, when I can get away from the Christmas Celebrations.

It is as if the room is filled with thick air, even though everyone else feels quite normal and happy, its just me who can sense this and it always heavily affects me.

So now I want to share with you my Truth about Christmas, which some of you might be aware of already, but this thread is also a means of adressing this being, that is behind this charade and exposing it, because I don`t think many people have done this so far.

This year the understanding that came to me was, that Santa Claus or Father Christmas, is the same being as the Christian God Yahweh, "God the Father", and therfor Saturn.

It is in itself already quite telling, that even non Christians all around the world, have adopted this type of Christmas and Santa Claus archetype, and started celebrating something similar or even the same, without having any real deeper reason to do so...

Santa Claus, is the Judging God Entity for Children.
Children believe anything they are being told, so this being is very real for them. For Children Santa Claus exists, period.
Santa Claus can see everything Children are doing and watches them all the time over the whole year, making a list of what they are doing. Even when I`m writing this some rage starts boiling inside me, the mind fucking they do with our Children all around the world...

The most important thing for a child to learn is, that it is a free being, who can and needs to try anything, to learn what for them feels right and wrong, instead of being told by their parents or other authorities, what is right or wrong.
The normal Christian God is beyond the scope of understanding for a child, it cannot understand why it would be judged by this ominous being sitting on a cloud or why this god would even be so evil as to send people to a place like hell. This mindcontrol program, simply cannot access the pure mind of a child yet and is therfor useless.

But a nice old man with a fluffy white beard and flying reindeers, who brings presents to children who were behaving good starts their imagination, like a real life disney movie. This concept is much easier to understand and involves a reward, that is fathomable to children.
Which also leads to the point, that parents tell their children, that imaginary friends aren`t real, that very vivid dreams aren`t real, that none of their inherent spiritual abilities are real, but Santa Clause who is flying on a skid with reindeers is real, and dare any parent to tell their children, that it is a made up lie.

The whole Ritual of Christmas, prepares the child`s mind, into accepting the existence of a Judgemental Christian God, Yahweh, that has the very same characteristics, like Santa Claus.
He claims to be able to see everything, but only his judgement is a bit more cruel, because in this case it is not about present or no present, or even worse a rod, but Eternal Hell Fire or Eternal Heaven instead.

Through telling the Children, that they either get a present when they behave good, light side of duality, or behave bad, dark side of duality, one being explored, the other being taught to heavily fear... that they even get punished with a rod, if they were really bad, which for a child really just means, exploring their true freedom, since a child really cannot do anything really "bad" yet.
The child`s mind is being conditioned into accepting, that punishment of bad people through the Christian God Yahweh, is an acceptable behaviour and completely justified, even needs to be enforced.

And if all of this mind fucking with our Children wouldn`t be enough...
The Celebration of Christmas which involves the gifting of presents BIG or small... conditions the mind, for entering into a Matrix, where Rich People are good and better/behaved better and therfor get more materialistic presents, and poor people were somehow bad/behaved worse, since they can only afford less materialistic presents.

The same goes for rich and poor children, where the confident but arrogant and bullying child in school, brags about getting a new tv or video console from Santa Claus, while the quiet child that is really good in his heart, just might have gotten, something much smaller and less expensive... I guess you see where I`m going with his.

Truth be told I hate Christmas, since I know the truth behind it, it is an ugly mindcontrol program, fucking with the purity of our Children`s Mind, and not a fucking single bit more than that.

I know what you are doing Yahweh and I will not keep quite anymore, with your bullshit false synthetic light programs that have infected the minds of our Children and Adults!

This needed to be released, now I can hopefully happily celebrate Mother Earth, Father Sun and Myself, for just Being Us and Winter being a time, where Mother Earth blesses us with Snow, instead of being a time where "Christmas is coming"...

How is this for sharing the Spirit of Christmas... would it really be that bad to tell our children, that they get their presents from us as every other child around the world, because we love them unconditionally for who they are...?
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Well said!!!!!
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Happy Festivus to you all!!
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Doesn't matter if you believe in God or not. You will be judged and if you don't wake up soon you aren't going to like when that day comes. Quit being selfish and enjoy being with your girlfriends family ya Scrooge

Oh and maybe this will help u wake up!


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30755795


How would you feel if everyone demanded you celebrate something you didn't enjoy or believe in, and then called you names because you refused? Quit being a hypocrite.
Out of this ugliness may come,
Some day, so beautiful a flower,
That men will wonder at that hour,
Remembering smoke and flowerless slum,
And ask-glimpsing the agony
Of the slaves who wrestle to be free-
'But why were all the poets dumb?'
-William Montgomerie

So many gods, so many creeds,
So many paths that wind and wind,
While just the art of being kind
Is all the sad world needs.
-Ella Wheeler Wilcox
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Atheist...I was one of those lunatics once.
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ya, fuck you too asshole
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Every year around Christmas for almost 10 years or so now, I start feeling weird when my family starts celebrating Christmas...
Today, since in Germany we celebrate Christmas in the evening, it wasn`t any different, short before the Celebrations started, I started feeling weird again, like every year.
This feeling only leaves me again, when I can get away from the Christmas Celebrations.

It is as if the room is filled with thick air, even though everyone else feels quite normal and happy, its just me who can sense this and it always heavily affects me.

So now I want to share with you my Truth about Christmas, which some of you might be aware of already, but this thread is also a means of adressing this being, that is behind this charade and exposing it, because I don`t think many people have done this so far.

This year the understanding that came to me was, that Santa Claus or Father Christmas, is the same being as the Christian God Yahweh, "God the Father", and therfor Saturn.

It is in itself already quite telling, that even non Christians all around the world, have adopted this type of Christmas and Santa Claus archetype, and started celebrating something similar or even the same, without having any real deeper reason to do so...

Santa Claus, is the Judging God Entity for Children.
Children believe anything they are being told, so this being is very real for them. For Children Santa Claus exists, period.
Santa Claus can see everything Children are doing and watches them all the time over the whole year, making a list of what they are doing. Even when I`m writing this some rage starts boiling inside me, the mind fucking they do with our Children all around the world...

The most important thing for a child to learn is, that it is a free being, who can and needs to try anything, to learn what for them feels right and wrong, instead of being told by their parents or other authorities, what is right or wrong.
The normal Christian God is beyond the scope of understanding for a child, it cannot understand why it would be judged by this ominous being sitting on a cloud or why this god would even be so evil as to send people to a place like hell. This mindcontrol program, simply cannot access the pure mind of a child yet and is therfor useless.

But a nice old man with a fluffy white beard and flying reindeers, who brings presents to children who were behaving good starts their imagination, like a real life disney movie. This concept is much easier to understand and involves a reward, that is fathomable to children.
Which also leads to the point, that parents tell their children, that imaginary friends aren`t real, that very vivid dreams aren`t real, that none of their inherent spiritual abilities are real, but Santa Clause who is flying on a skid with reindeers is real, and dare any parent to tell their children, that it is a made up lie.

The whole Ritual of Christmas, prepares the child`s mind, into accepting the existence of a Judgemental Christian God, Yahweh, that has the very same characteristics, like Santa Claus.
He claims to be able to see everything, but only his judgement is a bit more cruel, because in this case it is not about present or no present, or even worse a rod, but Eternal Hell Fire or Eternal Heaven instead.

Through telling the Children, that they either get a present when they behave good, light side of duality, or behave bad, dark side of duality, one being explored, the other being taught to heavily fear... that they even get punished with a rod, if they were really bad, which for a child really just means, exploring their true freedom, since a child really cannot do anything really "bad" yet.
The child`s mind is being conditioned into accepting, that punishment of bad people through the Christian God Yahweh, is an acceptable behaviour and completely justified, even needs to be enforced.

And if all of this mind fucking with our Children wouldn`t be enough...
The Celebration of Christmas which involves the gifting of presents BIG or small... conditions the mind, for entering into a Matrix, where Rich People are good and better/behaved better and therfor get more materialistic presents, and poor people were somehow bad/behaved worse, since they can only afford less materialistic presents.

The same goes for rich and poor children, where the confident but arrogant and bullying child in school, brags about getting a new tv or video console from Santa Claus, while the quiet child that is really good in his heart, just might have gotten, something much smaller and less expensive... I guess you see where I`m going with his.

Truth be told I hate Christmas, since I know the truth behind it, it is an ugly mindcontrol program, fucking with the purity of our Children`s Mind, and not a fucking single bit more than that.

I know what you are doing Yahweh and I will not keep quite anymore, with your bullshit false synthetic light programs that have infected the minds of our Children and Adults!

This needed to be released, now I can hopefully happily celebrate Mother Earth, Father Sun and Myself, for just Being Us and Winter being a time, where Mother Earth blesses us with Snow, instead of being a time where "Christmas is coming"...

How is this for sharing the Spirit of Christmas... would it really be that bad to tell our children, that they get their presents from us as every other child around the world, because we love them unconditionally for who they are...?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14776990


^this

I always say that Santa is the child's Jesus. When the Santa lie can no longer be maintained, then its time to upgrade to Jesus.

IDK, everything is so corrupted, its like living in a bad dream with no end.
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I enjoy festive, loving people. I would participate in any such gathering, whether I believe in it, or not.
Even if it is a gathering to celebrate the Great Spaghetti Monster God?

The point is happiness, celebration, and love. Belief is not a requirement to share in that kind of stuff.

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