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Deal with it.


Facts are republican cryptonite ,haha
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Let's pretend that studies don't show time and again that where there are more guns there are more killings.

FBI: Violent crime rates in the US drop, approach historic lows

By Andrew Mach, NBC News

Violent crime rates in the U.S. are reaching historic lows, according to new FBI data released Monday.
[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]

Okay, let's pretend.

Gun sales have skyrocketed since Obama's (s)election, while "violent crime rates in the U.S. are reaching historic lows".
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FBI statistics table on violent crime 1992-2011


[link to www.fbi.gov]


In the City of Chicago, until it was ruled unconstitutional earlier this year. No one residing in the ciy was allowed to posess or carry a handgun.

In 2012 so far, 446 school aged children were shot, with 62 fatalities. Chicago has among the most restrictive gun laws in the country with no posession or carry of a handgun by anyone.

[link to crimeinchicago.blogspot.com]
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BOO, sissy.
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Guns don't kill people. Gunowners kill people.


Deal with it.
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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?

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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
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2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
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i do think they are tyrannical, op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
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It makes sense now, as well, and always will.
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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
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i do think they are tyrannical, op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
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My country is as corrupt as any other. Ok, not as nearly corrupt as Italy for example, but still :)
The main problem is that they are taking away basic rights in social security and international corporations with globalization (exporting jobs to cheaper work force) are taking over the country, who in the end don't pay taxes.
We are fucked.

But i think the story is similar all over the civilized world.
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Guns don't kill people. Gunowners kill people.


Deal with it.
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They're not going away..

Deal with it.
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The Taliban and other insurgent groups in Iraq and Afganistan, whose primary weapon is an AK-47 might disagree. they have picked apart the 2 most powerful and most technologically advanced armies in the world over the last 30 years. The idea that TPTB are invincible is a mindset that they try to create to limit resistance. It is only true to the extent you believe it.
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staged event would include the guard now wouldnt it.
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staged event would include the guard now wouldnt it.
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Hm. You are jumping to some serious conclusions.
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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29885288


i do think they are tyrannical, op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


My country is as corrupt as any other. Ok, not as nearly corrupt as Italy for example, but still :)
The main problem is that they are taking away basic rights in social security and international corporations with globalization (exporting jobs to cheaper work force) are taking over the country, who in the end don't pay taxes.
We are fucked.

But i think the story is similar all over the civilized world.
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I bet you could put an end to the New World Order taking over your country and the export of jobs to countries with a low wage workforce with your cellphone.
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2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29885288


i do think they are tyrannical, op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


My country is as corrupt as any other. Ok, not as nearly corrupt as Italy for example, but still :)
The main problem is that they are taking away basic rights in social security and international corporations with globalization (exporting jobs to cheaper work force) are taking over the country, who in the end don't pay taxes.
We are fucked.

But i think the story is similar all over the civilized world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29885288


I bet you could put an end to the New World Order taking over your country and the export of jobs to countries with a low wage workforce with your cellphone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30244341


Sure, if i am able to conjure enough force for throwing the phone violently, killing enough corrupt politicians :P
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The Taliban and other insurgent groups in Iraq and Afganistan, whose primary weapon is an AK-47 might disagree. they have picked apart the 2 most powerful and most technologically advanced armies in the world over the last 30 years. The idea that TPTB are invincible is a mindset that they try to create to limit resistance. It is only true to the extent you believe it.
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Was just going to post the same
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i do think they are tyrannical, op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
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My country is as corrupt as any other. Ok, not as nearly corrupt as Italy for example, but still :)
The main problem is that they are taking away basic rights in social security and international corporations with globalization (exporting jobs to cheaper work force) are taking over the country, who in the end don't pay taxes.
We are fucked.

But i think the story is similar all over the civilized world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29885288


I bet you could put an end to the New World Order taking over your country and the export of jobs to countries with a low wage workforce with your cellphone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30244341


Sure, if i am able to conjure enough force for throwing the phone violently, killing enough corrupt politicians :P
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Perhaps a gun might be more effective?
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Guns don't kill people. Gunowners kill people.


Deal with it.
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In the 20th Century:
Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.

Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.



Guns & gun owners don't kill people, governments do.
Of course, you probably spend most of your time watching the news and television shows- all of which aim to make you not trust your own neighbor (they might be a serial killer or rapist you NEVER KNOW!!!!) and put your trust into a higher authority
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My country is as corrupt as any other. Ok, not as nearly corrupt as Italy for example, but still :)
The main problem is that they are taking away basic rights in social security and international corporations with globalization (exporting jobs to cheaper work force) are taking over the country, who in the end don't pay taxes.
We are fucked.

But i think the story is similar all over the civilized world.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29885288


I bet you could put an end to the New World Order taking over your country and the export of jobs to countries with a low wage workforce with your cellphone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30244341


Sure, if i am able to conjure enough force for throwing the phone violently, killing enough corrupt politicians :P
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29885288


Perhaps a gun might be more effective?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30244341

Effective in killing innocent bystanders and sending me to life in prison.


Yes,



very,




effective.
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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
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Either you are uninformed or just a troll.
In Iran, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan, to name a few, the rebels have done a good job armed mostly with pistols and rifles.
They have also acquired and used other weapons, but that is not what they started out with.

Besides that, we have Militia groups that would be equal in training to most of the Alphabet agencies personnel. Then with the retired Military would more than counter the current troops. Then the "untrained" civilians make up a numerical superiority.
So you argument is flawed at best.
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Yes, and he engaged the two shooters and slowed them down. How many people do you think were able to escape while Harris and Klebold were exchanging gunfire with the armed guard. The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I know you liberals think the answer is to outlaw guns. There are hundreds of millions of guns in circulation. Bad guys will always have guns.
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Why are you comparing 1st world countries (which US in most way isn't anymore) to syria, iraq and iran etc.

Btw. it still wouldn't help. not even close. The military is using nerve gas, cluster bombs, tanks , artillery etc. and you think more pistols would help the civilians ?

You can't overthrow a modern day government which is backed by the army, no mater how many guns you have.
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Yes, and he engaged the two shooters and slowed them down. How many people do you think were able to escape while Harris and Klebold were exchanging gunfire with the armed guard. The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I know you liberals think the answer is to outlaw guns. There are hundreds of millions of guns in circulation. Bad guys will always have guns.
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Imagine, if the shooters only had a knife.


imagine, a maximum of 2people dieing and imagine the guard easily overpowering them.
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for the last time, 2nd amendment is for protection against tyrannical government. do people have short term memory loss or something? op on a side note what is going on with the protests in your country?
 Quoting: mrmuffins69


2nd amendment made sense 200years ago. Today, tyrannic government has agencies (fbi,cia..) and a military that can not be combated against with pistols and semi-automatic weapons.

Also, if you think the current and last government (bush or obama) aren't tyrannical, then the main-stream media has done a number on you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29885288


Either you are uninformed or just a troll.
In Iran, Syria, Libya and Afghanistan, to name a few, the rebels have done a good job armed mostly with pistols and rifles.
They have also acquired and used other weapons, but that is not what they started out with.

Besides that, we have Militia groups that would be equal in training to most of the Alphabet agencies personnel. Then with the retired Military would more than counter the current troops. Then the "untrained" civilians make up a numerical superiority.
So you argument is flawed at best.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29307060


Why are you comparing 1st world countries (which US in most way isn't anymore) to syria, iraq and iran etc.

Btw. it still wouldn't help. not even close. The military is using nerve gas, cluster bombs, tanks , artillery etc. and you think more pistols would help the civilians ?

You can't overthrow a modern day government when is backed by the army, no mater how many guns you have. Don't be so fucking naive.

The military budget surpass the wealth of most nations. YOU CAN NOT COMPETE WITH THAT SORT OF MONEY/POWER with fucking guns, who in the end are used mostly by criminals and poverty stricken people.
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Yes, and he engaged the two shooters and slowed them down. How many people do you think were able to escape while Harris and Klebold were exchanging gunfire with the armed guard. The only thing that will stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. I know you liberals think the answer is to outlaw guns. There are hundreds of millions of guns in circulation. Bad guys will always have guns.
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Imagine, if the shooters only had a knife.


imagine, a maximum of 2people dieing and imagine the guard easily overpowering them.
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Let me help you...


There are hundreds of millions of guns in circulation. Bad guys will always have guns.
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Guns don't kill people. Gunowners kill people.


Deal with it.
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In the 20th Century:
Governments murdered four times as many civilians as were killed in all the international and domestic wars combined.

Governments murdered millions more people than were killed by common criminals.



Guns & gun owners don't kill people, governments do.
Of course, you probably spend most of your time watching the news and television shows- all of which aim to make you not trust your own neighbor (they might be a serial killer or rapist you NEVER KNOW!!!!) and put your trust into a higher authority
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Let me correct your statement:
The Higher Authority you should be trusting is God. (in whatever form you believe in.)
Our Founding Fathers believed that this Authority was Above ALL Governments, that Governments must answer to the People and to the "Creator" or "God".
So the order is:
God,
The People,
then the Government.
NOT:
The Government,
then God,
and lastly the people.
People.
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A Jefferson County Sheriff's Deputy, Neil Gardner, was assigned to the high school as a uniformed and armed school resource officer. At the time of the shooting, Gardner was on his lunch break in his patrol car. He was just northwest of the school, watching students in the Smokers' Pit in Clement Park. Around 11:23, the custodian radioed him, requesting assistance in the "back lot". While on his way, Gardner heard on his radio that a female was down. While leaving the car, he heard in another call, "Neil, there’s a shooter in the school".[24]

Harris immediately fired at Gardner, who was wearing a distinctive yellow uniform, as he exited the vehicle.[24] Gardner returned fire at Harris and Klebold, distracting them from the injured Brian Anderson.[4] (Anderson escaped to the library and hid inside an open staff break room.) Harris fired a total of ten shots at the officer, who reported a Code 33 (officer in need of emergency assistance) to his colleagues.

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