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Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?

 
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Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
"Rev. 7:9, 14: “After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues . . . ‘These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.’” (So, the members of this great crowd are living when the great tribulation begins, and they have a clean standing before God because they exercise faith in the ransom. The righteousness counted to them as a result of this is sufficient for them to be preserved alive on earth through the great tribulation.)"
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"Rev. 7:9, 14: “After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues . . . ‘These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.’” (So, the members of this great crowd are living when the great tribulation begins, and they have a clean standing before God because they exercise faith in the ransom. The righteousness counted to them as a result of this is sufficient for them to be preserved alive on earth through the great tribulation.)"
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Jehovah's Witnesses are soo terribly brainwashed.
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"Rev. 7:9, 14: “After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues . . . ‘These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.’” (So, the members of this great crowd are living when the great tribulation begins, and they have a clean standing before God because they exercise faith in the ransom. The righteousness counted to them as a result of this is sufficient for them to be preserved alive on earth through the great tribulation.)"
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Jehovah's Witnesses are soo terribly brainwashed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


That would be the reason Jesus came;
" What! Do YOU not know that unrighteous persons will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be misled. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men kept for unnatural purposes, nor men who lie with men, 10 nor thieves, nor greedy persons, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit God’s kingdom. 11 And yet that is what some of YOU were. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God." 1Cor6:9
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"Rev. 7:9, 14: “After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues . . . ‘These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.’” (So, the members of this great crowd are living when the great tribulation begins, and they have a clean standing before God because they exercise faith in the ransom. The righteousness counted to them as a result of this is sufficient for them to be preserved alive on earth through the great tribulation.)"
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Jehovah's Witnesses are soo terribly brainwashed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


Yes, Jehovah's Witnesses have in a sense been "brain washed"- their brains have been washed of religious false hoods and lies. "You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"- John 8:32
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"Rev. 7:9, 14: “After these things I saw, and, look! a great crowd, which no man was able to number, out of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues . . . ‘These are the ones that come out of the great tribulation, and they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.’” (So, the members of this great crowd are living when the great tribulation begins, and they have a clean standing before God because they exercise faith in the ransom. The righteousness counted to them as a result of this is sufficient for them to be preserved alive on earth through the great tribulation.)"
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Jehovah's Witnesses are soo terribly brainwashed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10164827


The 'great crowd' of Rv7:9, meaning Jehovah's international spiritual nation, has resolved the problems of political/religious/racial rivalries over who's better than the other. If this isn't becoming spiritually civilized for surviving the tribulation and starting over to achieve global Eden under Christ who is, ...these?
"But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. 2 For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, self-assuming, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, 3 having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, 4 betrayers, headstrong, puffed up [with pride], lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. 6 For from these arise those men who slyly work their way into households and lead as their captives weak women loaded down with sins, led by various desires, 7 always learning and yet never able to come to an accurate knowledge of truth." 2Ti3:1

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The world? no, only those who accept the free gift of the faith of Jesus.
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Re: Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
The world? no, only those who accept the free gift of the faith of Jesus.
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Doth Jesus accepth whoever doth accepth himith?
"The Father loves the Son and has given all things into his hand. 36 He that exercises faith in the Son has everlasting life; he that disobeys the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God remains upon him." Jo3:35
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Re: Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
OP, Revelations said they are crowned... When are the believers in Christ given their crowns???? I'll help you out here, at the judgment or Bema seat of Christ AFTER our resurrection to be with him.

So this refers to ALL believers both living and that had died in faith and were in heaven awaiting the resurrection as the Bridge of Christ.

There is consciousness after a physical death since believers will never suffer a spiritual death.
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Re: Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
OP, Revelations said they are crowned... When are the believers in Christ given their crowns???? I'll help you out here, at the judgment or Bema seat of Christ AFTER our resurrection to be with him.

So this refers to ALL believers both living and that had died in faith and were in heaven awaiting the resurrection as the Bridge of Christ.

There is consciousness after a physical death since believers will never suffer a spiritual death.
 Quoting: S.O.S.


" For the living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten. 6 Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they have no portion anymore to time indefinite in anything that has to be done under the sun." Ecc9:5

"Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. 16 By their fruits YOU will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? 17 Likewise every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit; 18 a good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, neither can a rotten tree produce fine fruit. 19 Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Really, then, by their fruits YOU will recognize those [men].
21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. 22 Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ 23 And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away from me, YOU workers of lawlessness." Mt7:21

You are right about when Jesus' assistant kings were crowned, at the first resurrection in 1914. Rv20:4
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Re: Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
Sins are forgiven when you confess them openly with witnesses who are involved with your misdemeanors, the Omnipotent Christ Who is God Almighty who already knew before the foundations of the earth forgives - the honesty within and your good conscience, he can see it while others cannot really detect it for sure unless there is a prophet from God where God shows His prophet the full picture of your problem so it can be fixed up properly. On judgement day it will be easy for you as you cleared your slate.
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Re: Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
The world? no, only those who accept the free gift of the faith of Jesus.
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Is faith sufficient or just the start?
"Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? 15 If a brother or a sister is in a naked state and lacking the food sufficient for the day, 16 yet a certain one of YOU says to them: “Go in peace, keep warm and well fed,” but YOU do not give them the necessities for [their] body, of what benefit is it? 17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.
18 Nevertheless, a certain one will say: “You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith apart from the works, and I shall show you my faith by my works.” 19 You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. 20 But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive? 21 Was not Abraham our father declared righteous by works after he had offered up Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 You behold that [his] faith worked along with his works and by [his] works [his] faith was perfected, 23 and the scripture was fulfilled which says: “Abraham put faith in Jehovah, and it was counted to him as righteousness,” and he came to be called “Jehovah’s friend.”
24 YOU see that a man is to be declared righteous by works, and not by faith alone. 25 In the same manner was not also Ra′hab the harlot declared righteous by works, after she had received the messengers hospitably and sent them out by another way? 26 Indeed, as the body without spirit is dead, so also faith without works is dead." Ja2:14
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Re: Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
The world? no, only those who accept the free gift of the faith of Jesus.
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This!
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Re: Were the world's sins forgiven at the moment of Jesus' death?
The world? no, only those who accept the free gift of the faith of Jesus.
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This!
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Does accepting Jesus mean he accepts them?
"“After a long time the master of those slaves came and settled accounts with them. 20 So the one that had received five talents came forward and brought five additional talents, saying, ‘Master, you committed five talents to me; see, I gained five talents more.’ 21 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’ 22 Next the one that had received the two talents came forward and said, ‘Master, you committed to me two talents; see, I gained two talents more.’ 23 His master said to him, ‘Well done, good and faithful slave! You were faithful over a few things. I will appoint you over many things. Enter into the joy of your master.’
24 “Finally the one that had received the one talent came forward and said, ‘Master, I knew you to be an exacting man, reaping where you did not sow and gathering where you did not winnow. 25 So I grew afraid and went off and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.’ 26 In reply his master said to him, ‘Wicked and sluggish slave, you knew, did you, that I reaped where I did not sow and gathered where I did not winnow? 27 Well, then, you ought to have deposited my silver monies with the bankers, and on my arrival I would be receiving what is mine with interest.
28 “‘Therefore TAKE away the talent from him and give it to him that has the ten talents. 29 For to everyone that has, more will be given and he will have abundance; but as for him that does not have, even what he has will be taken away from him. 30 And throw the good-for-nothing slave out into the darkness outside. There is where [his] weeping and the gnashing of [his] teeth will be.’ Mt25:19

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