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Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY

 
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Ya know what keeps other countries from invading yours asswipe? An armed America. Take the guns, then not only is crime going to go up, but so is your risk of attack. Stop blaming the to fit your sick ass agenda and start looking at the people who own them.

The gun, lile you OP, is just a tool.
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I know this is offtopic just a bit, but, who the fuck let a man out of prison who beat his grandmother to death? Who did that? I don't kmow why we cannot start making arrangements with some guys on the inside to take care of these motherfuckers before they ever see the light of day. Sort of like an inside star chamber? I'd donate by golly!
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Looks like another Bushmaster was used in Webster NY.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So you tell me - why should these be legal to own at all?? Obviously, availability made it possible for a convicted felon to get one.

For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27095381


Motherfucker! There's crackdealers with goddamn rpg7's,and grenades in their trunks and those damn sure aren't legal.and the criminals already have their AR's,sks's and AK's and they're full fuckin auto.CRIMINALS DO NOT ABIDE BY THE LAW!!!If we publicly turn in our firearms the criminals will see us as easy timid game.


FUCK OFF OP.
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The whole arguement is really rather foolish on both sides. The true problem is systemic and inside the Anerican culture itself. Banning weapons or not banning weapons will change nothing. Putting armed guards is a great step in making schools safer, that is certain, and I do not know why it is opposed. The mere fact that King Bloomberg himself in NYC would never even THINK about going out of his own home without a number of armed guards and is yet one of the most anti-guns clowns out there speaks volumes. None of us would need firearms if we all had armed peacekeepers following us around night and day.

Many people that served in the armed forces like the AR for sentimental reasons if nothing else. It is a cool and mean looking firearm which is why so many want them banned, but realistically speaking, a bolt action .3006 with an 8x scope on it is far more dangerous and deadly. Watch Private Ryan and ask yourself who killed the most Germans - The man with the sniper rifle, NOT the assault rifle. And a semi-automatic 12 ga shotgun, or even a pump for that matter will kill a good 20 innocents with 8 rounds which cannot be equalled with an assault rifle. And a school room full of 8 year olds is just as much screwed against an assailant with a baseball bat. Every classroom I have ever seen only has one door in or out, did you ever consider THAT?

Come on America, you cannot be as stupid as this arguement makes you look, the problem is clearly elsewhere, and until we address it and solve it victims will continue to mount in numbers.
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Hey OP...this should make sense to you

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I know this is offtopic just a bit, but, who the fuck let a man out of prison who beat his grandmother to death? Who did that? I don't kmow why we cannot start making arrangements with some guys on the inside to take care of these motherfuckers before they ever see the light of day. Sort of like an inside star chamber? I'd donate by golly!
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The black ops controllers love when a future patsy like this gets paroled. It makes their wet dreams come true.
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This story should be a perfect example of the real reason for these shootings...criminals; that don't observe the law, since both of these criminals broke gun laws prior to killing their victims!!!

There's an outdated concept; personal responsibilty...

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Hey OP...this should make sense to you

:spoons:


:fuck off flame:
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lmao
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Looks like another Bushmaster was used in Webster NY.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So you tell me - why should these be legal to own at all?? Obviously, availability made it possible for a convicted felon to get one.

For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27095381


So he illegally had possession of a firearm and you think more gun laws are the answer?
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Looks like another Bushmaster was used in Webster NY.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So you tell me - why should these be legal to own at all?? Obviously, availability made it possible for a convicted felon to get one.

For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27095381


The bigger question is, what are the chances of the same type gun being used in Newtown, The movie theater, the mall and the church??

4 losers that did not have any relation to each other all picked the same gun in these 4 latest tragedies?

Uh huh
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No offense but you're almost retarded...

It's a very popular gun at any store...
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Funny how we blame the man that set fire to the house to initiate the ambush, not the accelerant or matches.

But then we blame the gun that shot the firemen.



So a man burned down the house, but a Bushmaster AR-15 shot the fireman.


Somehow I think the man burned down the house and shot the firemen but Your political views won't be convinced of that.

I actually find that fascinating.

A man used matches and gasoline to burn the house down, and we blame the man

A man used a Bushmaster AR-15 to shoot firemen and we blame the Bushmaster AR-15.

Simply fucking amazing how some minds work.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


EPIC POST is EPIC.

OP is OWNED.

Thank you FatalWishes for the brilliant response.

The shooter was a criminal. Tried and convicted of MURDER and then released when he didn't even want to be.

The shooter illegally possessed weapons which is in itself illegal in a state where some of the most strict gun laws exist.

Did those gun laws stop the criminal from getting guns and committing murder?

No.

The ONLY thing that gun laws do is restrict the ability of the law abiding citizen to obtain protection for themselves and their loved ones and make it safer for the criminal to commit his violence over them.

It's like making a giant, gun free zone, and giving a murderer the license to kill every innocent they can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041


Not owned. if these guns weren't available to the public, the shooter would not have been able to get one - at least not easily.

THAT's my only point. Nothing more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27095381


Then we should ban gasoline and matches as well. If they were not available they would not have been used to lay the ambush.

This man was a felon.

It was a felony for him to even possess a weapon.

Any weapon. He did not acquire that gun through legal means.

Meaning he didn't get it through public means.


And the gun didn't kill anybody. A gun is an inanimate object. It collects dust and rust and cannot harm anybody. It takes a human to load it, aim it, and pull the trigger.

The Human is at fault. Not the gun.


If you walk into a pit of rattlesnakes, and then get bit...do you blame the snake that bit you our yourself for walking into the pit?
 Quoting: FatalW1shes

It's too logical. Liberals do not possess logical minds they base all thought on feelings. If it feels good do it.
So, with that in mind, I'm sure it felt good to the criminal to set fire to the house and shoot those two firefighters.
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I know this is offtopic just a bit, but, who the fuck let a man out of prison who beat his grandmother to death? Who did that? I don't kmow why we cannot start making arrangements with some guys on the inside to take care of these motherfuckers before they ever see the light of day. Sort of like an inside star chamber? I'd donate by golly!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26484773


The black ops controllers love when a future patsy like this gets paroled. It makes their wet dreams come true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30662905


Every problem that this crumbling nation has can be quickly traced back to a lawyer. Who runs the country, why lawyers of course. Every criminal is a customer for a lawyer, even and especially if they have no cash because the lawyers get paid by the system then. The more criminals out of prison, the more customers for the lawyers. Every time a criminal gets let back out, ca-ching, ca-ching! Mass murders are extremely horrible and bad for everyone, but the lawyers. Just watch and see how many victims survivors sue ALL PARTIES involved once the press leaves the scenes and the lawyers have innundated them all with letters begging for business. Did any of you ever get a speeding ticket? How many letters did you get from lawyers right after begging you for business? It happens with every crime folks, that is why criminals are much more highly regarded by our government (lawyers) after all, who doen't treat their customers better than strangers? It is really pretty basic. Shakespeare was right...
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Looks like another Bushmaster was used in Webster NY.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So you tell me - why should these be legal to own at all?? Obviously, availability made it possible for a convicted felon to get one.

For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all.
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George Soros owns bushmaster BIG OBAMA supporter
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Looks like another Bushmaster was used in Webster NY.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So you tell me - why should these be legal to own at all?? Obviously, availability made it possible for a convicted felon to get one.

For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27095381

And just how do you propose to do that? Wave a magic wand? Maybe kick down every door in the Country, incite some real violence? Or how about a law? That works so well with drugs after all...

But keep dreaming Hoplophobe, maybe if you wish real hard we could all live in fucken Utopia..
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Looks like another Bushmaster was used in Webster NY.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So you tell me - why should these be legal to own at all?? Obviously, availability made it possible for a convicted felon to get one.

For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27095381


So he illegally had possession of a firearm and you think more gun laws are the answer?
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Right on1rof1
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You DO realise the rest of the civilized world seriously questions your inteligence with comments like yours right?

Most people NEVER hear guns let alone have to worry about rednecks shooting in their backyard... such nightmarish country you live in.
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rednecks ??

let me tell you about the utopia I live in.

I live in a small community that leaves it's doors
open when we leave to go to town

hardly any crime

you know why this is ??

everybody has guns
and everybody else knows it

wouldn't it be nice if all communities
were like that ??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30842734


Dude I grew up in the Netherlands in the 80's living in a CITY and had the exact same story like yours. Hell I could walk into a strangers house and start playing there as a 5 year old.

There's virtually no private gun ownership in the Netherlands. (And yes we too have had our incidents but not in those days)

Maybe people changed? Or you just have so many guns or idiots around that it's a different scenario?

Ask yourself, why are our stories the same but in my case there's no guns included?
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Ummmm.... His story has him living in the small town RIGHT NOW. Your story is you living in a small town 30 years ago. Would a child go unmolested in that same town TODAY?

No, I won't call you names, like retard, dumbfuck, or libtard. No, would not stoop to such a level.
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Funny how we blame the man that set fire to the house to initiate the ambush, not the accelerant or matches.

But then we blame the gun that shot the firemen.



So a man burned down the house, but a Bushmaster AR-15 shot the fireman.


Somehow I think the man burned down the house and shot the firemen but Your political views won't be convinced of that.

I actually find that fascinating.

A man used matches and gasoline to burn the house down, and we blame the man

A man used a Bushmaster AR-15 to shoot firemen and we blame the Bushmaster AR-15.

Simply fucking amazing how some minds work.
 Quoting: FatalW1shes


EPIC POST is EPIC.

OP is OWNED.

Thank you FatalWishes for the brilliant response.

The shooter was a criminal. Tried and convicted of MURDER and then released when he didn't even want to be.

The shooter illegally possessed weapons which is in itself illegal in a state where some of the most strict gun laws exist.

Did those gun laws stop the criminal from getting guns and committing murder?

No.

The ONLY thing that gun laws do is restrict the ability of the law abiding citizen to obtain protection for themselves and their loved ones and make it safer for the criminal to commit his violence over them.

It's like making a giant, gun free zone, and giving a murderer the license to kill every innocent they can.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17208041


Not owned. if these guns weren't available to the public, the shooter would not have been able to get one - at least not easily.

THAT's my only point. Nothing more.
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Yea, that's working out well in Mexico where the cartels are getting their assault-rifles illegally from our gov't. OP's logic is failure
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I'm glad F.W. pinned this
I'm so tired of these idiots who think by passing a law we can change change behavior

If some crazy fuck wants to kill people they will find a way, being proficient with a firearm is the best way if you want to protect yourself or your family

Here's some more lefty ideas...
gun free zone

justice dept

gunsign

deertrap

Last Edited by Founders Fan on 12/25/2012 10:02 PM
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piss off op, you know your heading is all wrong. Let me fix it.

Merry Christmas Webster NY Lovers - a Bushmaster is not for all.
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that is excactly ops point.

more evidence guntards aren't all there.
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piss off op, you know your heading is all wrong. Let me fix it.

Merry Christmas Webster NY Lovers - a Bushmaster is not for all.
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that is excactly ops point.

more evidence guntards aren't all there.
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Don't you have something in your own country to worry about, roo shit to clean off your boots or something?

gun show

Last Edited by Founders Fan on 12/25/2012 10:15 PM
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OP --- you paid to post this stuff ? Or do you actually believe it?

You didn't hear about the dancing israelis as the towers exploded ?

You didn't hear about the israelis who were on the airfield and into the private jet out of there without filing a flight report after the alleged 'Bali Bombings' ?

You haven't heard about the Dunblane alleged 'massacre' of schoolkids in Scotland which resulted in the UK population losing their guns ?

You haven't heard of the Port Arthur allged 'massacre' by a low-IQ kid in Australia which resulted in the Aussie population losing their guns ?


Maybe because you don't know much apart from the pap you're fed by the whore media you actually believe you'll be safer if Americans' guns are taken from them

and maybe you need to stop reacting and instead start educating yourself ?

Maybe you need to accept the GLARING inconsistencies inherent in the 'official' version of the Sandy Hook hoax

and until you DO all the above

maybe you should just shut up ?
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Damn, Aussie! I'm glad you on the right side. You should consider relocating.
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piss off op, you know your heading is all wrong. Let me fix it.

Merry Christmas Webster NY Lovers - a Bushmaster is not for all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30833565


that is excactly ops point.

more evidence guntards aren't all there.
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Shut the fuck up.Buying an AR-15 or anyother military styled service rifle,Is like buying life insurance and gold at the sametime.It's just a smart investment.If I was prez I'd put one in every household and make them shoot twice a year,but we as americans pretty much got that taken care of so you can just go hang with some saltwater croc's or great whites.
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Wake up people. How many of these shootings do you need before you realize some group is manipulating you.
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There were some killer tornadoes in the South today. We need a law against that shit.

The weatherman has caused enough damage and taken enough lives.
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

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The whole arguement is really rather foolish on both sides. The true problem is systemic and inside the Anerican culture itself. Banning weapons or not banning weapons will change nothing. Putting armed guards is a great step in making schools safer, that is certain, and I do not know why it is opposed. The mere fact that King Bloomberg himself in NYC would never even THINK about going out of his own home without a number of armed guards and is yet one of the most anti-guns clowns out there speaks volumes. None of us would need firearms if we all had armed peacekeepers following us around night and day.

Many people that served in the armed forces like the AR for sentimental reasons if nothing else. It is a cool and mean looking firearm which is why so many want them banned, but realistically speaking, a bolt action .3006 with an 8x scope on it is far more dangerous and deadly. Watch Private Ryan and ask yourself who killed the most Germans - The man with the sniper rifle, NOT the assault rifle. And a semi-automatic 12 ga shotgun, or even a pump for that matter will kill a good 20 innocents with 8 rounds which cannot be equalled with an assault rifle. And a school room full of 8 year olds is just as much screwed against an assailant with a baseball bat. Every classroom I have ever seen only has one door in or out, did you ever consider THAT?

Come on America, you cannot be as stupid as this arguement makes you look, the problem is clearly elsewhere, and until we address it and solve it victims will continue to mount in numbers.
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...and that, ladies and gentlemen, is exactly WHY we blame the guns. Americans are essentially cowards and we are afraid to face the reality: our society has been destroyed by greed and theft from the top. Instead of admitting it, the government sets up Sandy Hooks and pays the media to give us a strong delusion. It's as plain as day to me. Why can't the cows see it? Too busy xboxing, walmarting an idling I guess.
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Well yeah, get rid of your Bushmaster and buy an AK-47. Something you paid shills can relate to...
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OK.. I have to work tomorrow.. but here is your assignment kiddies:

Find out how many bushmasters were part of fast and furious and the other gun running ops.

then.. get the serials from the mexican side and see if you can get the serials from these crime guns. close in for the match, set, game.
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I'm glad F.W. pinned this
I'm so tired of these idiots who think by passing a law we can change change behavior

If some crazy fuck wants to kill people they will find a way, being proficient with a firearm is the best way if you want to protect yourself or your family

Here's some more lefty ideas...
:gun free zone:

:justice dept:

:gunsign:

:deertrap:
 Quoting: TDJ


and you don't need high powered semi autos for any of it.


guntards arguments on this issue really only comfort other , frightened guntards.


countries without semi autos floating about dont have regular multi fatality gun massacres.

twelve years since they were regulated here and NOT ONE multi fatality shooting.

not one case of someone unable to protect themselves, family, or property because of lack of a firearm. when a recent murderer on the run armed with a high powered semi auto entered our local area, local papers front pages pictured armed locals .
he was wounded with a .22 bolt action and captured. that is firearm proficency.

have not seen one factual requirement for civilians to have high powered semi autos in one post here.

the obvious reason is there isn't one.



when the political arguments start, how will the pro gunners respond to the FACT multi fatality massacres and shootings DO NOT occur in countries where these weapon types are regulated.


they will lie and attempt to distract, that is all they have.
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I'm glad F.W. pinned this
I'm so tired of these idiots who think by passing a law we can change change behavior

If some crazy fuck wants to kill people they will find a way, being proficient with a firearm is the best way if you want to protect yourself or your family

Here's some more lefty ideas...
:gun free zone:

:justice dept:

:gunsign:

:deertrap:
 Quoting: TDJ


and you don't need high powered semi autos for any of it.


guntards arguments on this issue really only comfort other , frightened guntards.


countries without semi autos floating about dont have regular multi fatality gun massacres.

twelve years since they were regulated here and NOT ONE multi fatality shooting.

not one case of someone unable to protect themselves, family, or property because of lack of a firearm. when a recent murderer on the run armed with a high powered semi auto entered our local area, local papers front pages pictured armed locals .
he was wounded with a .22 bolt action and captured. that is firearm proficency.

have not seen one factual requirement for civilians to have high powered semi autos in one post here.

the obvious reason is there isn't one.



when the political arguments start, how will the pro gunners respond to the FACT multi fatality massacres and shootings DO NOT occur in countries where these weapon types are regulated.


they will lie and attempt to distract, that is all they have.
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It's america man,we like big tits,big food,big guns,big trucks,and big butts.It's just who we are,and we love it.Virginia has 30,000 legally registered full auto machine guns according to the atf,the most in the US and that's one state they probably don't even have that many 22's in your whole country.We piss 5.56 brass and shitout 30rd mags.We American citzens do not take shit from no one,we're mean people and we hate the world much more than they hate us,and yes we hate on eachother within our own borders but I consider it practice for when some dumbfucks come in and try to take away our supersize fries.
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Re: Merry Christmas Gun Lovers - a Bushmaster was used in Webster NY
Looks like another Bushmaster was used in Webster NY.

[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

So you tell me - why should these be legal to own at all?? Obviously, availability made it possible for a convicted felon to get one.

For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all.
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Merry Christmas douche Bag, another vehicle mowed down some children today in china, and Im sure some more vehicles got pissed and forced drunk individuals behind the wheel this holiday season killing hundreds, so lets make it illegal to own cars and take yours for starters as a trial run. For the love of humanity - let's get rid of these things once and for all. CARS Sounds stupid doesn't it? that's how fucking stupid you sound when you start talking about guns.

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