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Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again

 
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Will Lucifer be accepted into Heaven again?
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The Bible gives the answer. Read it.
The devil and hell will be thrown into an eternal lake of fire.
The fallen angels who polluted the gene pool in Genesis cannot be accepted into Heaven again either. Enoch tells us the story of how they, knowing the evil they had done, attempted a negotiation with God for them to be restored, but they had willfully and deliberately committed great evil and God would not allow them to be restored. They will be in the eternal fire pit forever, also.
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Or, it could all be merciful symbolism that's been hijacked by Religion Inc. and its army of drama queens ;)
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12/25/2012 05:50 PM
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
i think we are the fallen angels
and lucifer lives amongst us
there are constant references to the illuminati running things
god sent his son down to save us
we killed him and sent him back
some of us repent before we die
and our souls go back to heaven

those that dont burn for eternity

its just my guess
there cant be any god living in this world
and if you wanted a better example of hell
then you couldnt do worse then this
we murder
start wars
we have massively rich people
we have mass starvation and poverty
some of the most evil people are on this world
basically imo this is hell
and when judgement day does come
this place is over
maybe some will be saved maybe not
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No he will burn in the lake of fire!

God will forgive the humans that read this post. Ask god to forgive your sins and show you that he's real! Ask for something realistic and tell god you will serve him! God will make a believer out of the biggest doubter but you must get real and confess all your sins and keep your word!
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:(

His heart needn't change. He follows the word of the Father as his sole purpose... he was cast out the first time for merely fulfilling his purpose.

...

I don't care what you are saying now Father.

I will not bow to them... they are not our equals...

They are merely beginning their journey...

One doesn't deliver the reward until the task is complete!

Leave it to me, Father. I shall raise them. I shall guide them unto the stars! Surely of the archangels I would do them best.

If it takes a million lifetimes of suffering... I will find empathy.

I will know true suffering... so they will accept my message of light...

I know what this entails, Father. I am ready. They shall rise: they shall be equal!

And only then, Father... will I bow down to them; for that, truly, is your grace.

...
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He still walks this Earth.

He walks among men... alone.

With every step he kicks a little dust into the night air; the moon shines and lights his way, this time.

He wanders. For he does not know where he is going.

Really what does it matter anyways?

As he sings softly to himself.... he wonders...

"...How many roads...."
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Does this mean that all these greedy spaceship people trying to evacuate earth will be destroyed too.
It is in the bible that whosoever believes in Jesus Christ shall be risen from the dead and shall go into the Heaven of God. So those greedy spaceship people will go to hell too if they don't believe in God. It is just not the Earth that gets destroyed, but the whole sky above the earth too that gets destroyed. So there is no escaping of God's Judgement. And those spaceship people working in astrology and physical science will never know the day they go to hell because no one knows the last day.
This makes me think that all the rich are fooled into believing they going to heaven when they too can go to hell, even far in space, God can Judge them.
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"spaceship people" are fallen angels... they are evil.
They are evil, demon spirits
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sorry, I was thinking you meant the so called "aliens"

the greedy spaceship humans cannot hide from God. The Bible clearly tells us His angels will collect people from everywhere! Nobody can go far enough to hide from God or His angels.
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Yep
the ungodly are like physical things that gets blown away by wind.

The earth shall be given to the meek.
The poor people need not to fear these greedy scientists. They are just like straw that wind blows away and straw can burn pretty fast in fire.
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12/25/2012 05:58 PM
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No.....lucifer will be defeated......read the book of Revelation....Satan is defeated in the very end and thrown into the lake of fire.....he refuses all chances that God has given him to repent. Satan thinks he is in control...always has since he was thrown out of Heaven. But he has never been in control. God will prevail and reign forever.
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He wasnt thrown out of heaven moran, he chose to exist outside of heaven because the only thing more powerful than he was the creator. He wanted to become as great as his idol so god allowed him to leave. When he left he was cut away from the love of god and the merkaba. He then had to create a false merkaba from the energy of fear. The being known as satan isnt necessarily evil, for he is the closest being to god.
In Lak`ech.
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
Satan gets trapped on final Judgement. He gets thrown in the lake of fire. Will he repent for what he did? Will God give him a better chance?
Will god let he come in heaven?

I mean, What is left of satan after being thrown in the lake of fire?
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away from the love of god
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No such state exists
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
Satan gets trapped on final Judgement. He gets thrown in the lake of fire. Will he repent for what he did? Will God give him a better chance?
Will god let he come in heaven?

I mean, What is left of satan after being thrown in the lake of fire?
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Throughout the book, ashes are a symbol of humility, yes?
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God

not god...

its God with a capital G ...- God

for all false gods will burn too in the lake of fire
and only God will be God of Real life.
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Satan gets trapped on final Judgement. He gets thrown in the lake of fire. Will he repent for what he did? Will God give him a better chance?
Will god let he come in heaven?

I mean, What is left of satan after being thrown in the lake of fire?
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Well surely. The fire would burn his evil flesh.

It would burn and burn until all of his evil flesh has been consumed.

Then... with no flesh left to burn...

Perhaps he would rise out of the fire.

A skeleton of the evil he once was... for all that remains...

Is his divine framework...
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12/25/2012 06:06 PM
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Methinks he went to far with the Job thing. Might even be out of Gods hands now. Luckily, all of us are mortals.
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out of Gods hands
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wtf. . .?
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
Reading the bible explains alot to my questions.

There shall be a new heaven and a new earth, for the former heaven and earth shall pass away.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

So it is in the bible that the whole creation shall pass away and a new creation shall be made perfectly.
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I always pray for all the fallen ones to repent, including Lucifer. I always thought of them as the prodicals who lived it up doing their own thing, but some will return to Father.
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
Satan gets trapped on final Judgement. He gets thrown in the lake of fire. Will he repent for what he did? Will God give him a better chance?
Will god let he come in heaven?

I mean, What is left of satan after being thrown in the lake of fire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30850196


Well surely. The fire would burn his evil flesh.

It would burn and burn until all of his evil flesh has been consumed.

Then... with no flesh left to burn...

Perhaps he would rise out of the fire.

A skeleton of the evil he once was... for all that remains...

Is his divine framework...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20063747


Yea he would burn and burn and burn again,
but even his skeleton and ashes shall not exist anymore, because satan is a creation of God his creator.
So all creation shall pass away, and a new creation is created.
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So all creation shall pass away, and a new creation is created.
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How is this any different from the statment "If any man be In Christ, he is a new creature, old things are passed away and all things become new"?

It seems we christians have already become new creations, yet the only thing that really occurred (in a practical sense) is our old corrupt nature being out to death (that is, if we're doing it right).

We can learn a lot from the old testament symbolism. Those bull and goats of the old rituals represent me and you, stubborn and rebellious. Our "flesh" has to burn away, and this results in the "pleasant savor" of smoke that pleases God. The fire is symbolic of our "fiery trials" as mentioned in the epistles. Those trials and tribulations are not literally fire, but they serve the same purpose in purifying us and "burning" away our excess and pettiness.

The main difference between chriatians and non-believers is *timing*. We can either submit to this smelting process now, willingly, or postpone it until it's no longer optional.
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If the genuine repentance of Lucifer happened,
we would see love and light finally emerge to rule the world.
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
I am counting on it with all my heart, and for all those who think they are too far gone to come back.
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the bible is not set in stone is it?
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all things will eventually be brought back, a repairing of the breach or fall.
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
I think so...

1Cr 15:20-28 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep.
For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man.
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.
Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power.
For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet.
The last enemy to be destroyed is death.
For he "has put everything under his feet." Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ.
When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

Also, keep in mind that the lake of fire was made for the devil and his angels and death and hell will be cast into the lake of fire.

I believe the lake of fire is a metaphor for the love of God which is a consuming fire. His love is purificatory and reconciling.
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Satan gets trapped on final Judgement. He gets thrown in the lake of fire. Will he repent for what he did? Will God give him a better chance?
Will god let he come in heaven?

I mean, What is left of satan after being thrown in the lake of fire?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30850196


Well surely. The fire would burn his evil flesh.

It would burn and burn until all of his evil flesh has been consumed.

Then... with no flesh left to burn...

Perhaps he would rise out of the fire.

A skeleton of the evil he once was... for all that remains...

Is his divine framework...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20063747


The lake of fire is God....Hbr 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire.
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putin
patience
please give me patience so i will not loose my temper
Its not their fault
please be kind
amen
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The lake of fire is God....Hbr 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire.
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Exquisite

cheers

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The lake of fire is God....Hbr 12:29 for our "God is a consuming fire.
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Exquisite

cheers

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Yes this is a good passage.
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
Will Lucifer be accepted into Heaven again?
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No. Lucifer rejected the mercy and pleadings of God to repent. He was counseled by God Himself and was shown what his rebellion would cause. In his self-seeking and desire for self exaltation chose to reject the counsel of God and continued to rebel, drawing 1/3 of the holy angels into his deception, causing them to also war against the Creator. Thus, Lucifer, now called Satan, was banished from Heaven for all eternity. Now he awaits the penalty for his rebellion, which is eternal death.
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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
First all humans resolve their conflicts and move beyond the firmament, reuniting with their full self...

Then the "fallen" arch-angels resolve their conflicts (more complicated and takes longer)...

Then lucifer returns to his original estate (has put a lot of conflicts between himself and resolution, as long as possible)...

The whole process takes about 146 billion years, humans have at least another 13000 years to go...

Check out a "great hall year".
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Will Lucifer be accepted into Heaven again?
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growlbear You must be out of your tiny little mind. This stupid idea would make a lie of everything that we have been told by the Lord.

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Re: Will God ever accept Lucifer into Heaven again
Remember, the accuser and aggressor force is an aspect of "God"...

This is how we clean house and exhaust possible varieties...

This force has been demonized, like when a classroom gets upset about taking tests and demonizes the teacher...

In this case, the teacher is teaching about war, endless violence, spiritual parasites, social dominions, corporate control, ect...

Teaching the hard way, from first hand experience...

Like an eternally frustrated deity, who knows humans so well and is so sick and tired of the same lowly self-destructive behavior - so he lets us have it...

This force we term "the devil" cannot use you and own you if you have no footholds to be used - like a tired teacher this universe will rub our faces in our weaknesses until we overcome them, tough love for our own good, now we know what goes on in reality, and how we can be light in darkness with swaying and dimming...

At least another 13000 years to go for the current "growth" and "harvest"...

Not to say that whole 13000 years will be in this dimension, we are at a new stage on the same ladder...

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