Bigoted gun fanatics = FALSE PATRIOTS

I'm one of those "Gun Fanatics" you speak ill of.

Now I respect, and will defend to the death, your right to freedom of speech. You can hold whatever belief you want, just so long as you afford me the same respect. The rub is that my right to have modern small arms to aid me in defense of self, family, and property, is not granted by any government or person. Nor is your right to have, and convey, any certain viewpoint, or belief, granted by any government or person. See, they come from nature (or God) and as such are inalienable.

It's not so much that we're being hypocritical (honestly, I don't give a damn what a tv face says) it's that you're trying to strip my ability to protect my family from me, and that's not within your authority. So our side is doing what it can (within the system) to get you off of our backs.

I don't want you to leave the country, or even to be quiet and go away. My wish is for you to leave me and mine alone. If you and your kind can not simply let me be, then let us divide the nation so that we may all be free to live under whatever system of government we chose. You know, like the States were before the federal bastards decided that they wanted unlimited access to, and control of, every damn thing that goes on in this country.

You do not have the right to be protected from all possible harm. You do however have the inalienable right to defend yourself, by using the most efficient tools available, and not be punished in the course of doing so.

See the difference?

The frantic and hysterical gun fanatics in America are not just angry at Piers Morgan - they want ANYONE who doesn't believe as they believe to either shut up or leave the country.

They are using Morgan as a scapegoat, but the truth is, they want THEIR right to bear arms and they want to DENY those with oppositional viewpoints the right to free speech.

These fanatics live their lives shrouded in a veil of self-proclaimed patriotism, but they are nothing more than a motley mix of bullies, cowards, rednecks, and non-intellectuals, and too many of them create and encourage a culture of violence, not just throughout society, but in their own homes and families.

It's one thing to want to be able to defend yourself and your loved ones in what is an increasingly violent world, but it's another to become obsessed and to cultivate hate and more violence and to be so hypocritical as to pitifully lean on the constitution while at the same time disrespecting it in its entirety.

Such people are lowly citizens and FALSE PATRIOTS.

I cannot even imagine what it's like to have such a narrow-minded way of "thinking".

If an outdated piece of paper is how you define your life as an America, I am sorry for you.

You likely believe in the bible, too.

No, I don't believe in the Bible at all. I have no religion, but do believe profoundly in a Creator, or Supreme Being, if you will.

And, if you want to change the Constitution, the mechanism to do so is there.

Until you legally change that "old piece of paper", it remains the Supreme Law of the Land.

All the recent shooting events have resulted in significant loss of life. Law Enforcement is obviously powerless to stop these events before they occur. Regardless whether law-abiding citizens are relieved of their semi-auto weapons, criminals will still be in posession and have acess to these.

You have said that citizens don't need assault rifles, but the police respond to these events with multiple assault rifles to stop such an assault...usually too late as everyone is already dead.

If confronted by a crazed individual or criminal intent on such actions as part of a home invasion or other event, I am curious as to what you believe should be an appropriate level of self-defense for the intended victim

Sure the people trying to deport the guy for expressing free speech are just as bad as the people pushing for anti-gun legislation, but sitting in the middle of it stirring the pot is even worse. You talk about people promoting hate, violence, and division while creating an inflammatory thread made to divide people. Careful who you point the finger at, you'll find you have three fingers pointing right back at yourself.

The frantic and hysterical liberal fanatics in America are not just angry at Gun Owners - they want ANYONE who doesn't believe as they believe to either shut up or leave the country.

They are using Gun Owners as a scapegoat, but the truth is, they want THEIR right to free speach and they want to DENY those with oppositional viewpoints the right to the Second Ammendment.

These fanatics live their lives shrouded in a veil of self-proclaimed patriotism, but they are nothing more than a motley mix of bullies, cowards, socialists, and non-intellectuals, and too many of them create and encourage a culture of fear, not just throughout society, but in their own homes and families to further their own political goals.

It's one thing to want to be able to force your political views on others and your loved ones in what is an increasingly propagandized world, but it's another to become obsessed and to cultivate hate and more fear and to be so hypocritical as to pitifully lean on the constitution while at the same time disrespecting it in its entirety.

Such people are lowly citizens and Feign Patriotism while hiding behind the First Ammendment.


There, I fixed the original post.

How do YOU define a US Patriot?

For me, it's simple.

A US Patriot is one who fully supports the Constitution for the united States.

End of.

Being English, you may have some knowledge to share. I am most interested in the definition odf Seditious Libel. Under this definition, I think the US has a case against Morgan.

In law, sedition is overt conduct, such as speech and organization, that is deemed by the legal authority to tend toward insurrection against the established order. Sedition often includes subversion of a constitution and incitement of discontent (or resistance) to lawful authority. Sedition may include any commotion, though not aimed at direct and open violence against the laws. Seditious words in writing are seditious libel. A seditionist is one who engages in or promotes the interests of sedition.

Seditious libel was a criminal offence under English common law.[1] Sedition is the offence of speaking seditious words with seditious intent: if the statement is in writing or some other permanent form it is seditious libel. A statement is seditious if it "brings into hatred or contempt" the Queen or her heirs, or the government and constitution, or either House of Parliament, or the administration of justice, or if it incites people to attempt to change any matter of Church or State established by law (except by lawful means), or if it promotes discontent among or hostility between British subjects. A person is only guilty of the offence if they intend any of the above outcomes. Proving that the statement is true is not a defence. It is punishable with life imprisonment.