| Users Online Now: 1,888 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 755,626 | |
| Pageviews Today: 1,289,279 | Threads Today: 494 | Posts Today: 9,036 |
| 02:25 PM | ||
| Users Online Now: 1,888 (Who's On?) | Visitors Today: 755,626 | |
| Pageviews Today: 1,289,279 | Threads Today: 494 | Posts Today: 9,036 |
| 02:25 PM | ||
I don`t believe that Jesus Christ is my lord and savior - Ask me a question! | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1747431  United States12/25/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Decent and fair. I choose to do good to others not because i will get something out of it but because we are one. I choose to love everyone rather they have wronged me or not. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic Exquisite. If some of us could loosen our deathgrip on dogma and adopt such a stance as this, we'd really be getting somewhere :)  Well thanks man, i try to look for the best in every situation and see everything that happens to me as a lesson to learn. Once you start living like this god truly speaks to and through you. Try it for a week and you will see what i mean. In Lak`ech. |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the being known as christ but I think christianity is the biggest brainwashing tool of mankind. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic Lets have ourselves a good old fashion religious debate. Ask me a question! do you like satan? I admire lucifer yes for he is the highest of the angels and in this body i am nowhere as close to god as he is. I do not like the satan that is portrayed by satanic cults and religion however. In Lak`ech. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States12/25/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Decent and fair. I choose to do good to others not because i will get something out of it but because we are one. I choose to love everyone rather they have wronged me or not. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic Exquisite. If some of us could loosen our deathgrip on dogma and adopt such a stance as this, we'd really be getting somewhere :) No. It wouldn't, because life is not a disney land. Life is tough and ugly, full of distractions and trials. Most people easily lose every intention to be good just because of some fairness doctrine. And this right here is the crux of the christian walk: Can we reach the point where we actually forgive those "oppressing" us? Can we actually turn the other cheek? Can we truly submit ourselves as sheep to the slaughter? This is the make-or-break threshold. Can we "wrestle" with God and come out *changed*, limping, yet with a completely new perspective? Or are we content in Laodicea, with our comfy riches and armchair sainthood? |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Decent and fair. I choose to do good to others not because i will get something out of it but because we are one. I choose to love everyone rather they have wronged me or not. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic Exquisite. If some of us could loosen our deathgrip on dogma and adopt such a stance as this, we'd really be getting somewhere :) No. It wouldn't, because life is not a disney land. Life is tough and ugly, full of distractions and trials. Most people easily lose every intention to be good just because of some fairness doctrine. So your saying that humanities only hope is to live life based on a book of rules written by a god who judges our every action? In Lak`ech. |
| Gregor Samsa User ID: 2766961  Turkey12/25/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe Jesus Christ symbolizes yourself and you are your selves savior, did you consider this ? Quoting: Gregor Samsa Very beautiful thought and very true. Christ was killed once he started teaching his followers how to achieve the same things he had achieved. He taught that we are all connected and that we are divine beings. The church didnt like this however. So he is your savior in a sense. Saving means to 'know yourself' which means knowledge. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Decent and fair. I choose to do good to others not because i will get something out of it but because we are one. I choose to love everyone rather they have wronged me or not. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic Exquisite. If some of us could loosen our deathgrip on dogma and adopt such a stance as this, we'd really be getting somewhere :) No. It wouldn't, because life is not a disney land. Life is tough and ugly, full of distractions and trials. Most people easily lose every intention to be good just because of some fairness doctrine. And this right here is the crux of the christian walk: Can we reach the point where we actually forgive those "oppressing" us? Can we actually turn the other cheek? Can we truly submit ourselves as sheep to the slaughter? This is the make-or-break threshold. Can we "wrestle" with God and come out *changed*, limping, yet with a completely new perspective? Or are we content in Laodicea, with our comfy riches and armchair sainthood? The men at the top are evil only in this dualistic reality. They serve a greater purpose that even they do not know. Once this game is over this will be realized by all of us. In Lak`ech. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States12/25/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826358  Germany12/25/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Decent and fair. I choose to do good to others not because i will get something out of it but because we are one. I choose to love everyone rather they have wronged me or not. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic Exquisite. If some of us could loosen our deathgrip on dogma and adopt such a stance as this, we'd really be getting somewhere :) No. It wouldn't, because life is not a disney land. Life is tough and ugly, full of distractions and trials. Most people easily lose every intention to be good just because of some fairness doctrine. And this right here is the crux of the christian walk: Can we reach the point where we actually forgive those "oppressing" us? Can we actually turn the other cheek? Can we truly submit ourselves as sheep to the slaughter? This is the make-or-break threshold. Can we "wrestle" with God and come out *changed*, limping, yet with a completely new perspective? Or are we content in Laodicea, with our comfy riches and armchair sainthood? Christians only forgive the sinners, but hate the sin. |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe Jesus Christ symbolizes yourself and you are your selves savior, did you consider this ? Quoting: Gregor Samsa Very beautiful thought and very true. Christ was killed once he started teaching his followers how to achieve the same things he had achieved. He taught that we are all connected and that we are divine beings. The church didnt like this however. So he is your savior in a sense. Saving means to 'know yourself' which means knowledge. I guess if you put it like that then yes but i do not fall vitim to scripture written by powerful men for their own agenda. In Lak`ech. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States12/25/2012 06:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The men at the top are evil only in this dualistic reality. They serve a greater purpose that even they do not know. Once this game is over this will be realized by all of us. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic That's good stuff - rare to find someone who sees this. We all have our role. . .without "bad guys", we wouldn't have enough friction to "polish" us, would we? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8788578 United States12/25/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 Exquisite. If some of us could loosen our deathgrip on dogma and adopt such a stance as this, we'd really be getting somewhere :) No. It wouldn't, because life is not a disney land. Life is tough and ugly, full of distractions and trials. Most people easily lose every intention to be good just because of some fairness doctrine. And this right here is the crux of the christian walk: Can we reach the point where we actually forgive those "oppressing" us? Can we actually turn the other cheek? Can we truly submit ourselves as sheep to the slaughter? This is the make-or-break threshold. Can we "wrestle" with God and come out *changed*, limping, yet with a completely new perspective? Or are we content in Laodicea, with our comfy riches and armchair sainthood? Christians only forgive the sinners, but hate the sin. (Sorry, what does this pre-packaged reply have to do with the topic?) |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you don't believe that god makes your morals, than you make your morals yourself and these mroals can change at a heart beat, whenever it suits you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30826358 Yes but like i said i live a life of love and gratitude. I dont need to be judged for i judge myself each and every day. In Lak`ech. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826358 Germany12/25/2012 06:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30826358 No. It wouldn't, because life is not a disney land. Life is tough and ugly, full of distractions and trials. Most people easily lose every intention to be good just because of some fairness doctrine. And this right here is the crux of the christian walk: Can we reach the point where we actually forgive those "oppressing" us? Can we actually turn the other cheek? Can we truly submit ourselves as sheep to the slaughter? This is the make-or-break threshold. Can we "wrestle" with God and come out *changed*, limping, yet with a completely new perspective? Or are we content in Laodicea, with our comfy riches and armchair sainthood? Christians only forgive the sinners, but hate the sin. (Sorry, what does this pre-packaged reply have to do with the topic?) Maybe I missed your point. Could you please clarify. |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The men at the top are evil only in this dualistic reality. They serve a greater purpose that even they do not know. Once this game is over this will be realized by all of us. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic That's good stuff - rare to find someone who sees this. We all have our role. . .without "bad guys", we wouldn't have enough friction to "polish" us, would we? Exactly. We all decided our fate in this incarnation long before we began, we choose to live here because it is tough and we needed certain experience for our eternal souls growth. In Lak`ech. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826358 Germany12/25/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The men at the top are evil only in this dualistic reality. They serve a greater purpose that even they do not know. Once this game is over this will be realized by all of us. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic That's good stuff - rare to find someone who sees this. We all have our role. . .without "bad guys", we wouldn't have enough friction to "polish" us, would we? Exactly. We all decided our fate in this incarnation long before we began, we choose to live here because it is tough and we needed certain experience for our eternal souls growth. And god told you that? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1747431 United States12/25/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love the being known as christ but I think christianity is the biggest brainwashing tool of mankind. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic Lets have ourselves a good old fashion religious debate. Ask me a question! do you like satan? I admire lucifer yes for he is the highest of the angels and in this body i am nowhere as close to god as he is. I do not like the satan that is portrayed by satanic cults and religion however. lol lucifer is the same as satan? are you sure?!  what would you have god do with those humans who portray satan with such cults and terrible rituals? |
| Gregor Samsa User ID: 2766961 Turkey12/25/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe Jesus Christ symbolizes yourself and you are your selves savior, did you consider this ? Quoting: Gregor Samsa Very beautiful thought and very true. Christ was killed once he started teaching his followers how to achieve the same things he had achieved. He taught that we are all connected and that we are divine beings. The church didnt like this however. So he is your savior in a sense. Saving means to 'know yourself' which means knowledge. I guess if you put it like that then yes but i do not fall vitim to scripture written by powerful men for their own agenda. Well i put it like that... and considering i have never been a Christian. To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The men at the top are evil only in this dualistic reality. They serve a greater purpose that even they do not know. Once this game is over this will be realized by all of us. Quoting: Mr. HypGnostic That's good stuff - rare to find someone who sees this. We all have our role. . .without "bad guys", we wouldn't have enough friction to "polish" us, would we? Exactly. We all decided our fate in this incarnation long before we began, we choose to live here because it is tough and we needed certain experience for our eternal souls growth. And god told you that? Yes during meditation. Listen to your heart for that is where he sends his messages. In Lak`ech. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24744661 United States12/25/2012 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826358 Germany12/25/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8788578 That's good stuff - rare to find someone who sees this. We all have our role. . .without "bad guys", we wouldn't have enough friction to "polish" us, would we? Exactly. We all decided our fate in this incarnation long before we began, we choose to live here because it is tough and we needed certain experience for our eternal souls growth. And god told you that? Yes during meditation. Listen to your heart for that is where he sends his messages. That being that talks to you is not god. Believe me. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826358 Germany12/25/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States12/25/2012 06:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 10783814 United States12/25/2012 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1025215 United States12/25/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Mr. HypGnostic (OP) User ID: 30854963 United States12/25/2012 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826358 Germany12/25/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Gregor Samsa User ID: 2766961 Turkey12/25/2012 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What difference does that make! It's the Jesus that really matters, not God So you truly do worship jesus as a diety? Why would you worship a human and not god? even if that human had the god consciousness? Why worship anything to begin with ? Why would the creator care such an act ? What does worshipping mean ? To know means to know all. Not to know all means not to know. In order to know all, it is only necessary to know a little. But, in order to know this little, it is first necessary to know pretty much. G.I. Gurdjieff |
