Gun confiscation??? I think not! | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826600 12/25/2012 07:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing preventing this current government from confiscating our weapons is Fear & Commonsense. Molon Labe bitches! We have not yet begun to fight! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27432223 The problem is, any resistance to confiscation would have to be co-ordinated, preferably by military vets. If it isn't, the militarized SWAT teams and foreign military mercs will just sweep-up weapons, piecemeal. Sure, there would be plenty of "cold, dead handers", but on their own, they won't have a chance. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826600 12/25/2012 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28228272 12/25/2012 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. some folks will have to lay their life down for the cause....Lots of folks died in 1775-6 ya know Sadly, I just don't know if Americans have "it" in them anymore. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 12/25/2012 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. They don't have all that stuff out where I am. Plus I'd wager the sheriff/deputies in my area are against confiscations. Not sidestepping your question though... I'm not too sure what I would do in that case. I think confiscation would open a serious can of worms here, and I'm not certain all the police and military would help the government with it. Just my take, mind you. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1920114 12/25/2012 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. … trying to fight a conventional war against overwhelming technology is stupid Learn from those that kicked our asses in Vietnam & are doing it again in Afghanistan… |
| Uninterested3rdParty User ID: 29441850 12/25/2012 08:35 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. In this scenario, the cops have had to leave their green (safe) zone and travel through the badlands under full armor. IED's will plague every route and when they exit their armor to politely ask that the homeowner turn over their weapons, their neighbors will reduce them to bags of meat, followed by the full confiscation of their real Assult Rifles, hand grenades, armor and tanks. |
| ru1im2 User ID: 30859205 12/25/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about it and you will realize that the technology gap does not require them to "confiscate" guns, per se. The real way to defeat this enemy is NON-VIOLENT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE!!! But the lead-loaders are convinced they are gonna come to their doors with M16's or what not for an old fashioned shoot-out. NOT! What they want you to do is precisely that... ...sit at home cleaning your guns while they continue implementing their tyrannical agendas. Start with refusing to pay taxes. Why continue funding your enemy? If enough resisters engage in this kind of activity, there is nothing they can do but ramp up the fear! THEN, just maybe, a few will be chosen to be examples by making huge news stories of them to increase the fear, but all you gunnies are fearless anyway, right? yeah right I bet 99% are too chicken shit to not keep paying their enemy the protection money, and secretly hope they never have to "come out backwards with yer hands up" in front of their neighbors who they bragged to that would NEVER happen! ![]() Last Edited by RU1IM2 on 12/25/2012 11:02 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 12/25/2012 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about it and you will realize that the technology gap does not require them to "confiscate" guns, per se. Quoting: ru1im2 The real way to defeat this enemy is NON-VIOLENT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE!!! But the lead-loaders are convinced they are gonna come to their doors with M16's or what not for an old fashioned shoot-out. NOT! What they want you do is precisely that... ...sit at home cleaning your guns while they continue implementing their tyrannical agendas. Start with refusing to pay taxes. Why continue funding your enemy? If a large enough amount of resisters engage in this kind of activity, their is nothing they can do but ramp up the fear! THEN, just maybe, a few will be chosen to be examples by making huge news stories of them to increase the fear, but all you gunnies are fearless anyway, right? yeah right I bet 99% are too chicken shit to not keep paying their enemy the protection money, and secretly hope they never have to "come out backwards with yer hands up" in front of their neighbors who they bragged to that would NEVER happen! ![]() Hard-hitting! Guys, you may not like what he's saying, but damn he makes some good points. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826600 12/25/2012 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. In this scenario, the cops have had to leave their green (safe) zone and travel through the badlands under full armor. IED's will plague every route and when they exit their armor to politely ask that the homeowner turn over their weapons, their neighbors will reduce them to bags of meat, followed by the full confiscation of their real Assult Rifles, hand grenades, armor and tanks. I think you're in some FPS fantasyland, right there. Will your neighbours down the street start building IEDs, Molotov Cocktails, piano-wire decapitation snares etc? Only if there is some kind of before the fact co-operation. I believe that many US military personnel will abide by their Oaths, which is why most of your pro military are getting shipped overseas, for bogus BS reasons. National Guards are being Federalized (when the fuck did that get allowed?) and shipped out, too. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 29307060 12/25/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing preventing this current government from confiscating our weapons is Fear & Commonsense. Molon Labe bitches! We have not yet begun to fight! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27432223 The problem is, any resistance to confiscation would have to be co-ordinated, preferably by military vets. If it isn't, the militarized SWAT teams and foreign military mercs will just sweep-up weapons, piecemeal. Sure, there would be plenty of "cold, dead handers", but on their own, they won't have a chance. No, your wrong. Hitler had gun confiscation, lots of trained soldiers, SS and Gestapo, yet the Resistance movement still survived and thrived. Much to Hitler's dismay, he could not destroy the Resistance. Even without the Allies help, they would probably have eventually retaken Europe from Him. It might have taken another 10 years, but like Castro in Cuba, they would have prevailed against all odds. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 12/25/2012 08:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure they are. Have you been keeping up with the news? NY gov Cuomo has been, for one: [link to www.nationalreview.com] For another, all pro-2nd Amendment folks talk about confiscation when there's new impending legislation. I don't think it will happen, mind you, but to say no one is discussing it is just, well, silly. |
| Uninterested3rdParty User ID: 29441850 12/25/2012 08:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about it and you will realize that the technology gap does not require them to "confiscate" guns, per se. Quoting: ru1im2 The real way to defeat this enemy is NON-VIOLENT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE!!! But the lead-loaders are convinced they are gonna come to their doors with M16's or what not for an old fashioned shoot-out. NOT! What they want you do is precisely that... ...sit at home cleaning your guns while they continue implementing their tyrannical agendas. Start with refusing to pay taxes. Why continue funding your enemy? If a large enough amount of resisters engage in this kind of activity, their is nothing they can do but ramp up the fear! THEN, just maybe, a few will be chosen to be examples by making huge news stories of them to increase the fear, but all you gunnies are fearless anyway, right? yeah right I bet 99% are too chicken shit to not keep paying their enemy the protection money, and secretly hope they never have to "come out backwards with yer hands up" in front of their neighbors who they bragged to that would NEVER happen! ![]() Hard-hitting! Guys, you may not like what he's saying, but damn he makes some good points. Agreed in concept but the reality of it..., There have been several threads about stop feeding the beast. If for example the fiscal cliff is not solved, and when I say solved I mean a severe meaningful cut in spending down below the level of revenue, with no new tax rates. Many plan to stop spending on anything except just bare necessities. No new car, no steaks, not new electronic gadgets or trips. Although we cannot do much about the taxes confiscated out of our paychecks, we can remove most of what may be left of our money from the system through non participation. If everyone does this, it seems the system will soon come crashing down, or will it? In reality, will prevent the PTB from just printing even more money to replace the lost revenue and inflating the dollar even more? This is what they effectively do today. So in addition to being vigilant and protecting our rights against confiscation thuggery, we may have to do both, and do them well. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826600 12/25/2012 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing preventing this current government from confiscating our weapons is Fear & Commonsense. Molon Labe bitches! We have not yet begun to fight! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27432223 The problem is, any resistance to confiscation would have to be co-ordinated, preferably by military vets. If it isn't, the militarized SWAT teams and foreign military mercs will just sweep-up weapons, piecemeal. Sure, there would be plenty of "cold, dead handers", but on their own, they won't have a chance. No, your wrong. Hitler had gun confiscation, lots of trained soldiers, SS and Gestapo, yet the Resistance movement still survived and thrived. Much to Hitler's dismay, he could not destroy the Resistance. Even without the Allies help, they would probably have eventually retaken Europe from Him. It might have taken another 10 years, but like Castro in Cuba, they would have prevailed against all odds. Yes, but the French Resistance was a very organized group of die-hard citizens (5% or less of the general pop), aided and abetted by the Allies with unlimited air-drops of weapons and materiel, fighting against a ruthless foreign invader. We are talking about American gun owners being made to give up their weapons to their own government, not some brutal foreign invasion force. Obviously, the Obarkyfraud "government" is an enemy "domestic", as outlined in the military Oaths, but most Americans still regard it as legitimate, for some reason. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 12/25/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Think about it and you will realize that the technology gap does not require them to "confiscate" guns, per se. Quoting: ru1im2 The real way to defeat this enemy is NON-VIOLENT CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE!!! But the lead-loaders are convinced they are gonna come to their doors with M16's or what not for an old fashioned shoot-out. NOT! What they want you do is precisely that... ...sit at home cleaning your guns while they continue implementing their tyrannical agendas. Start with refusing to pay taxes. Why continue funding your enemy? If a large enough amount of resisters engage in this kind of activity, their is nothing they can do but ramp up the fear! THEN, just maybe, a few will be chosen to be examples by making huge news stories of them to increase the fear, but all you gunnies are fearless anyway, right? yeah right I bet 99% are too chicken shit to not keep paying their enemy the protection money, and secretly hope they never have to "come out backwards with yer hands up" in front of their neighbors who they bragged to that would NEVER happen! ![]() Hard-hitting! Guys, you may not like what he's saying, but damn he makes some good points. Agreed in concept but the reality of it..., There have been several threads about stop feeding the beast. If for example the fiscal cliff is not solved, and when I say solved I mean a severe meaningful cut in spending down below the level of revenue, with no new tax rates. Many plan to stop spending on anything except just bare necessities. No new car, no steaks, not new electronic gadgets or trips. Although we cannot do much about the taxes confiscated out of our paychecks, we can remove most of what may be left of our money from the system through non participation. If everyone does this, it seems the system will soon come crashing down, or will it? In reality, will prevent the PTB from just printing even more money to replace the lost revenue and inflating the dollar even more? This is what they effectively do today. So in addition to being vigilant and protecting our rights against confiscation thuggery, we may have to do both, and do them well. Damn. I wish we lived in simple times. Great post, BTW. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 12/25/2012 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing preventing this current government from confiscating our weapons is Fear & Commonsense. Molon Labe bitches! We have not yet begun to fight! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27432223 The problem is, any resistance to confiscation would have to be co-ordinated, preferably by military vets. If it isn't, the militarized SWAT teams and foreign military mercs will just sweep-up weapons, piecemeal. Sure, there would be plenty of "cold, dead handers", but on their own, they won't have a chance. No, your wrong. Hitler had gun confiscation, lots of trained soldiers, SS and Gestapo, yet the Resistance movement still survived and thrived. Much to Hitler's dismay, he could not destroy the Resistance. Even without the Allies help, they would probably have eventually retaken Europe from Him. It might have taken another 10 years, but like Castro in Cuba, they would have prevailed against all odds. Yes, but the French Resistance was a very organized group of die-hard citizens (5% or less of the general pop), aided and abetted by the Allies with unlimited air-drops of weapons and materiel, fighting against a ruthless foreign invader. We are talking about American gun owners being made to give up their weapons to their own government, not some brutal foreign invasion force. Obviously, the Obarkyfraud "government" is an enemy "domestic", as outlined in the military Oaths, but most Americans still regard it as legitimate, for some reason. Only 3% of the American Colonists took up arms against your beloved King George. Just sayin'. |
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| Uninterested3rdParty User ID: 29441850 12/25/2012 09:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Confiscating guns from Americans who lawfully own them is a non-starter. Ain't gonna happen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24782026 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. In this scenario, the cops have had to leave their green (safe) zone and travel through the badlands under full armor. IED's will plague every route and when they exit their armor to politely ask that the homeowner turn over their weapons, their neighbors will reduce them to bags of meat, followed by the full confiscation of their real Assult Rifles, hand grenades, armor and tanks. I think you're in some FPS fantasyland, right there. Will your neighbours down the street start building IEDs, Molotov Cocktails, piano-wire decapitation snares etc? Only if there is some kind of before the fact co-operation. I believe that many US military personnel will abide by their Oaths, which is why most of your pro military are getting shipped overseas, for bogus BS reasons. National Guards are being Federalized (when the fuck did that get allowed?) and shipped out, too. If I understand you correctly, you believe that Americans are actually less capable than Iraqis or Afghans at asymmetrical warfare. That is fantasy land my friend. I believe exactly the opposite, the US military and government has not yet met the toughest enemy in the world yet, which is a pissed of motivated American citizen. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826600 12/25/2012 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30826600 The problem is, any resistance to confiscation would have to be co-ordinated, preferably by military vets. If it isn't, the militarized SWAT teams and foreign military mercs will just sweep-up weapons, piecemeal. Sure, there would be plenty of "cold, dead handers", but on their own, they won't have a chance. No, your wrong. Hitler had gun confiscation, lots of trained soldiers, SS and Gestapo, yet the Resistance movement still survived and thrived. Much to Hitler's dismay, he could not destroy the Resistance. Even without the Allies help, they would probably have eventually retaken Europe from Him. It might have taken another 10 years, but like Castro in Cuba, they would have prevailed against all odds. Yes, but the French Resistance was a very organized group of die-hard citizens (5% or less of the general pop), aided and abetted by the Allies with unlimited air-drops of weapons and materiel, fighting against a ruthless foreign invader. We are talking about American gun owners being made to give up their weapons to their own government, not some brutal foreign invasion force. Obviously, the Obarkyfraud "government" is an enemy "domestic", as outlined in the military Oaths, but most Americans still regard it as legitimate, for some reason. Only 3% of the American Colonists took up arms against your beloved King George. Just sayin'. Not my "beloved King George", I can assure you. And any analogy to the Revolutionary War is total crap! Just think of the surveillance that your government has on you, and you don't have on your government. No, if they come, you had better be well-organized. Individualistic stands won't cut it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 12/25/2012 09:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not my "beloved King George", I can assure you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30826600 And any analogy to the Revolutionary War is total crap! Just think of the surveillance that your government has on you, and you don't have on your government. No, if they come, you had better be well-organized. Individualistic stands won't cut it. Meh, just having you on a bit You make some great points - seriously! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826600 12/25/2012 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30826600 Local cops in the US have tanks, helicopters, mini-guns, grenades, AT missiles, drones you name it. What if they just started going door-to door, to known gun owners, and politely demanding that said weapons be turned over? 10 minutes to comply, or they come in and take them? I'm on your side here, playing Devil's Advocate. In this scenario, the cops have had to leave their green (safe) zone and travel through the badlands under full armor. IED's will plague every route and when they exit their armor to politely ask that the homeowner turn over their weapons, their neighbors will reduce them to bags of meat, followed by the full confiscation of their real Assult Rifles, hand grenades, armor and tanks. I think you're in some FPS fantasyland, right there. Will your neighbours down the street start building IEDs, Molotov Cocktails, piano-wire decapitation snares etc? Only if there is some kind of before the fact co-operation. I believe that many US military personnel will abide by their Oaths, which is why most of your pro military are getting shipped overseas, for bogus BS reasons. National Guards are being Federalized (when the fuck did that get allowed?) and shipped out, too. If I understand you correctly, you believe that Americans are actually less capable than Iraqis or Afghans at asymmetrical warfare. That is fantasy land my friend. I believe exactly the opposite, the US military and government has not yet met the toughest enemy in the world yet, which is a pissed of motivated American citizen. Oh, yes, you understand correctly. The poor Turd-Worlders you have been persecuting and murdering just because you could, have nothing to lose. They are dirt-poor peasants, just trying to survive, plus they are allied under Islam. I will applaud when I see the first fat little American wearing a bomb-belt, charge into a bunch of SWAT-wankers, and blow himself up! Most of you are just too goddamn big, 'n fat, 'fine to fight like a Turd-World peasant. You got a split-level, 3-bed, 2-bath, with a double garage, 3 automobiles, an' a bass boat! See where I'm comin' from? When you wake up from your materialistic dream, it'll all be over bar the cryin'! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30826600 12/25/2012 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not my "beloved King George", I can assure you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30826600 And any analogy to the Revolutionary War is total crap! Just think of the surveillance that your government has on you, and you don't have on your government. No, if they come, you had better be well-organized. Individualistic stands won't cut it. Meh, just having you on a bit You make some great points - seriously! God Bless, man! I'm tryin' to war-game some shit here, and it don't look good, frankly. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 12/25/2012 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not my "beloved King George", I can assure you. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30826600 And any analogy to the Revolutionary War is total crap! Just think of the surveillance that your government has on you, and you don't have on your government. No, if they come, you had better be well-organized. Individualistic stands won't cut it. Meh, just having you on a bit You make some great points - seriously! God Bless, man! I'm tryin' to war-game some shit here, and it don't look good, frankly. Judging from the quality of your posts, I think you watch too much TV. If you're so worried about us, come on over and get your citizenship. Then you can buy your guns and give us a hand defending your new 2nd Amendment *IF* it comes down to it. As a bonus, you can marvel at how many gun owners aren't as fat and lazy as they show you on the MSM ;-) |