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BREAKING!!!! 223-caliber Bushmaster rifle used in NY fire ambush!!! HOW CONVENIENT FOR THE GUN GRABBERS!!! Obama using death squads?

 
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WEBSTER, N.Y. – The gunman who killed two firefighters during a pre-dawn ambush on emergency responders in suburban Rochester, N.Y., left behind a note outlining his "clear intent" to burn his neighborhood to the ground and "do what I like doing best, killing people," police said on Tuesday.

A lone gunman, identified as William Spengler, set his home and a car on fire on Monday in what police called "a clear ambush on first responders." Spengler was found dead at the scene. Two firefighters were killed; two others were seriously wounded.

The two to three page note contained the shooter's "clear intent" to ambush first responders but did not reveal the shooter's motive. The police chief said that the shooter's motive may have taken root more than 30 years ago when the police department arrested Spengler for murdering his grandmother.

"There was no motive in the note. There were some ramblings in there. It spoke mainly of his intent to burn his neighborhood down and hurt as many people as possible before stopping," Webster police Chief Gerald Pickering said at a press conference on Tuesday morning.

Hours later, authorities announced that human remains were found in the charred house that 62-year-old Spengler shared with his 67-year-old sister, Cheryl Spengler. Police said the victim is believed to be the shooter's sister.

Police say Spengler armed himself with a revolver, shotgun and military-style rifle before he set his house afire to lure first responders into a pre-dawn death trap on Christmas Eve.

Pickering says Spengler "was equipped to go to war."

Spengler killed himself as seven houses burned around him. A friend said Spengler hated his sister but police say a motive hasn't been determined.

Spengler was armed with a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, a .38-caliber revolver and a 12-gauge shotgun, cops said. The Bushmaster rifle used by Spengler is the same make and caliber semiautomatic rifle as the one used in the Connecticut school massacre.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

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Not only was this very convenient for gun grabbers, but this stinks so bad as a set up. Its the same M.O. every time, kills mother, kills people, then kills himself. Maybe obama has death squads going around doing hits?

and it took over a day to decide to report it as this type of weapon. Last shooting they reported it within hours. they were probably deciding if they should say if it was the same rifle or not. I also notice they arent blasting this on every channel...hmmm...
wtf

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"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

-George Washington
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Bump this bitch!!! What are the chances, seriously!!!
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Bump this bitch!!! What are the chances, seriously!!!
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it stinks. we will see an ak47 used next, that you can bet on
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Sounds like they are killing mentally disturbed targeted individuals and then using death squads to shoot the place up a little and then leave the murdered patsy laying somewhere. That's what I would do if I was tptb and wanted to disarm the public.
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Didn't somebody already point out that Australia and England pulled the same thing before taking everybody's guns?
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Sounds like they are killing mentally disturbed targeted individuals and then using death squads to shoot the place up a little and then leave the murdered patsy laying somewhere. That's what I would do if I was tptb and wanted to disarm the public.
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you took the words right outta my mouth. They probably are using death squads and hitting different locations. This was the next state over from CT. A few hours drive.
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Certainly makes you wonder.
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Certainly makes you wonder.
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the odds are so low its ridiculous. same rilfe, same caliber.

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"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

-George Washington
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We shall see. I can't help but notice that all of people were weak and disturbed in some way...easy to sneak in, kill them, and leave them at the scene...even that mall shooter had a mask on...conveniently...until they found his carcass.
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Didn't somebody already point out that Australia and England pulled the same thing before taking everybody's guns?
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probably, but thats news to me
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We shall see. I can't help but notice that all of people were weak and disturbed in some way...easy to sneak in, kill them, and leave them at the scene...even that mall shooter had a mask on...conveniently...until they found his carcass.
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yup, its always people with no immediate family or families that dont care. we are gonna be seein a lot of these popping up. And will be blamed on so called "copy cats"
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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Sounds like they are killing mentally disturbed targeted individuals and then using death squads to shoot the place up a little and then leave the murdered patsy laying somewhere. That's what I would do if I was tptb and wanted to disarm the public.
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Putting the lunatic in fringe... moron.
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Sounds like they are killing mentally disturbed targeted individuals and then using death squads to shoot the place up a little and then leave the murdered patsy laying somewhere. That's what I would do if I was tptb and wanted to disarm the public.
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Putting the lunatic in fringe... moron.
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"Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth."

"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

-George Washington
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]

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wow just wow
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"Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."

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yeah... wow... my eyebrows were raised further when I noticed the shooter from Australia was from a place called New Town....
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Sounds like they are killing mentally disturbed targeted individuals and then using death squads to shoot the place up a little and then leave the murdered patsy laying somewhere. That's what I would do if I was tptb and wanted to disarm the public.
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Occam's Razor strikes again.

It is really a simple and strikingly effective method, isn't it?
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Lady Gaga should have pointed the first case out. If he was allowed to touch the scouts some kids would still be alive. Touched but alive.
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yeah... wow... my eyebrows were raised further when I noticed the shooter from Australia was from a place called New Town....
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Yea It all just has too many coincidences
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Bingo! Why not he's got mercanires in libya, Syria, Egypt, and who knows where else. Why not have mercanires in the US to further the agenda? Makes sense.
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WEBSTER, N.Y. – The gunman who killed two firefighters during a pre-dawn ambush on emergency responders in suburban Rochester, N.Y., left behind a note outlining his "clear intent" to burn his neighborhood to the ground and "do what I like doing best, killing people," police said on Tuesday.

A lone gunman, identified as William Spengler, set his home and a car on fire on Monday in what police called "a clear ambush on first responders." Spengler was found dead at the scene. Two firefighters were killed; two others were seriously wounded.

The two to three page note contained the shooter's "clear intent" to ambush first responders but did not reveal the shooter's motive. The police chief said that the shooter's motive may have taken root more than 30 years ago when the police department arrested Spengler for murdering his grandmother.

"There was no motive in the note. There were some ramblings in there. It spoke mainly of his intent to burn his neighborhood down and hurt as many people as possible before stopping," Webster police Chief Gerald Pickering said at a press conference on Tuesday morning.

Hours later, authorities announced that human remains were found in the charred house that 62-year-old Spengler shared with his 67-year-old sister, Cheryl Spengler. Police said the victim is believed to be the shooter's sister.

Police say Spengler armed himself with a revolver, shotgun and military-style rifle before he set his house afire to lure first responders into a pre-dawn death trap on Christmas Eve.

Pickering says Spengler "was equipped to go to war."

Spengler killed himself as seven houses burned around him. A friend said Spengler hated his sister but police say a motive hasn't been determined.

Spengler was armed with a .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, a .38-caliber revolver and a 12-gauge shotgun, cops said. The Bushmaster rifle used by Spengler is the same make and caliber semiautomatic rifle as the one used in the Connecticut school massacre.

Read more: [link to www.foxnews.com]

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Not only was this very convenient for gun grabbers, but this stinks so bad as a set up. Its the same M.O. every time, kills mother, kills people, then kills himself. Maybe obama has death squads going around doing hits?

and it took over a day to decide to report it as this type of weapon. Last shooting they reported it within hours. they were probably deciding if they should say if it was the same rifle or not. I also notice they arent blasting this on every channel...hmmm...
wtf
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not only the same gun as CT, the same gun as the theater and mall and church

5 separate nutjobs with no connection to each other all pick same weapon in last 5 tragedies?

uh huh
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yeah... wow... my eyebrows were raised further when I noticed the shooter from Australia was from a place called New Town....
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Yeah, and they say he is retarded and won't give him any access to interviews or media...Sounds like he was certainly a proficient methodical killer that managed to keep cops pinned down all night...pretty good for a tard, no?
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Only one that lived...I guess it's just easier to kill them and everybody they are close to so they don't have to worry about loose ends.
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Sounds like they are killing mentally disturbed targeted individuals and then using death squads to shoot the place up a little and then leave the murdered patsy laying somewhere. That's what I would do if I was tptb and wanted to disarm the public.
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Occam's Razor strikes again.

It is really a simple and strikingly effective method, isn't it?
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Very...did they ever find out who those 2 ugly old men dressed up as nuns with firearms under their smocks were at the CT shooting?
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Didn't somebody already point out that Australia and England pulled the same thing before taking everybody's guns?
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semi autos were regulated after port arthur. the massacre is one story, the buy back another. nobodies guns were taken, as the fearful americans claim.

there has not been one multi fatality shooting in the entire country in the twelve years since regulation. there has not been one case where someone couldn't defend themselves or property because of lack of a semi automatic weapon.


with the amount of semi autos floating around america, the odds of the same model and

caliber being used in consecutive multi fatality shootings is definately not low.


you guntards are just getting desperate, and it's showing
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Uh, I'm not the slightest bit desperate or worried. Nobody will be taking my weapons.
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This is a slow process...I don't think it's the us government, because they art a bunch of clueless moronic imbeciles signing bills they don't even read. So of course they wouldn't be organizing this...it's somebody larger and darker, and the goal is to make you helpless.
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And that is when everybody will get to be told they don't own anything, and they will be relocated to work camps, etc. and there won't be a thing they can do about it.
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Herded like a bunch of stupid fearful sheep.
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Didn't somebody already point out that Australia and England pulled the same thing before taking everybody's guns?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21849408


semi autos were regulated after port arthur. the massacre is one story, the buy back another. nobodies guns were taken, as the fearful americans claim.

there has not been one multi fatality shooting in the entire country in the twelve years since regulation. there has not been one case where someone couldn't defend themselves or property because of lack of a semi automatic weapon.


with the amount of semi autos floating around america, the odds of the same model and

caliber being used in consecutive multi fatality shootings is definately not low.


you guntards are just getting desperate, and it's showing
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Believe it or not, there's no shortage of genuine psychopaths in America willing to do these things without any nefarious government involvement. iamwith
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the approved killing will continue until all firearms are confiscated from honest citizens. Then the criminals will get real brave and start gunning us down. The level of all types of violence will spiral out of control. Single women in particular will be terrified to leave their homes. and you'll see their posts here on GLP about how terrified they are. Right now the level of crime is nothing compared to what is coming after they disarm honest citizens...

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