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The fight involves exposing the Beast to the Light in order to ex0rcise it. You are promoting apathy to our surroundings, that is incorrect. That is exactly how the Sandy Hook tragedy ends up happening..apathy.
 Quoting: Perseus7


Really, do I. WTF

Outside = Inside. Enlightening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


This thread is mainly for people who have already done the within part..next step, helping others fight their beast within. The work is not done after you have cleared your own head of the evil unfortunately.
 Quoting: Perseus7


You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.
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I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.
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The disastrous consequences of a 'too rapid' or 'unprepared' arousal of kundalini have been well-documented. See some of the writings of Dr. Lee Sanella who studied this since the late 1970's. (I was in contact with him in 1978 or 79 as I recall.)

Read Kundalini: the Evolutionary Energy In Man about 38 years ago. Gopi Krishna 'successfully' 'aroused' kundalini; and ended up 'thinking' that he was 'God'.

I call that insanity.

And, if you don't want to believe that, fine by me. Just try it and find out for yourself.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Hmm. Ok then.

But my resource is more comprehensive, I'm sure.

[link to www.biologyofkundalini.com]

And in no case will a properly awakened kundalini result in insanity. Gopi Krishna successfully aroused the RIGHT channel if memory serves. This is universally condemned by gurus.

Some of us here have two active kundalini, but that happens as, in general, the LEFT channel can DOMINATE the RIGHT. Left first, then right. I am afraid that means that some of us here are far, far more advanced than Gopi Krishna was. It is 2012, things have advanced since his time.

Are you kundi-active? Cause if not, you don't really have a lot of credibility here. It knows, my friend. It knows.
 Quoting: pi


There are quite significant correspondences between the knowledge received through kundalini and the Knowledge conveyed by the Vision of the "Son of man"; but there are also quite significant differences. But it is not really possible to explain all of this in writing, but only in the context of an oral teaching.

If you have any knowledge of the Revelations of the monotheistic religions, you will recognize that there are NO efforts to 'conjure' the Vision of the "Son of man" or the Revelation of the "resurrection". These Revelations are received from the Creator and it was always understood that one cannot force the hand of the Creator: He Reveals Knowledge to whomsoever He desires. And trying to obtain that Knowledge can only result in falsehood, illusion, or delusion.

I received the Vision of the "Son of man" out of the clear blue sky, as it were. And it has taken me decades to understand what that Knowledge is.

In the kundalini tradition, however, there are extensive descriptions of things that should be done--visualizations, different postures, etc. etc.--all motivated by the ambition to have a 'spiritual experience'; the ultimate consequence of which is only to intensify rather than resolve the duality. It is at least naive to suggest that the motivation for all of these efforts does not in any way distort the result.

Michael
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I just want to explain the process of saving oneself spiritually, from my experience with the Kundalini.

I had a Spiritual Awakening, May 2011 but didn't meditate until around May 2012.

So my chakras are activated as well, but they are not open.

So these energies called Kriyas unblocks the chakras, by breathing, hand and arm movements.

The first bottom three chakras are the most important, as it's the purifiers, or balances your psyche.

So when you first start the Kundalni meditation, the Kriyas start on one half of the body, that is where I am now.

My arm and hands are controlled by the Kriyas to move energy up my body, it's like pulling strings.

When I have gotten to my Brow chakra, I started receive visions, and nightmares of what I have feared most, spiders and demons.

As my visions of being chased by demons increased, my fear also decreased. The last vision I had of this Demon, he was sitting up in the underworld, while all the other Demons were sleeping.

So, since I lost my fear of Demons I thought I would kill it by lifting him out of the underworld, and into the light, hoping he would fry.

As I pictured myself reaching down to grab him, my hands suddenly were radiated by light, it was if God was reaching down on me, and picking me up.

I suddenly felt that the Demon was me? I started to feel remorse for wanting to kill it, I felt like shit, my face puffed up in tears, I friggin just let go, like a little baby. I begged God to forgive me for wanting to kill that poor Demon, that was awake and alone in the dark. I still feel like shit to this day.

Well he wasn't ready yet to be saved as I wasn't ready yet to save him.

So when i do save him, his energy, lies in our thighs, below the root chakra. The root chakra is where Earth is, and where the dimension we live in now, and where we receive our energy from.

So when I do go and save my Demon, I will reach down below the root chakra, and pick up his energy, and bring him into my being.

His energy will be going through the same process I went through. I won't be able to save him, until I deal with issues I had brought upon myself, in my lifetime, so my faith will be able to handle the turmoil I will be facing.

Well anyway, thats my story about how I am going to save myself.

And the bible people, shoot away! but first I'm going for my meditation.

Love & peace to all
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


Probably 99% of what you have written here consists of conditioning: thoughts you have been told by others which you believe with the consciousness of the 'thinker'; images created by the consciousness of the "self", all within the context of a decision made by the "self" in the pursuit of another particular image which has been created by the "self". In other words, all of these things are activities of the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness. So how is it possible, employing the images and thoughts originating in duality, to get beyond duality?

By the way, it's really not that difficult to save a "demon". All you have to do is observe it from a different dimension of consciousness--the dimension of non-duality--rather than identifying with it on the basis of an image...

In other words, you appear to be trying too hard.

This is not in any way a criticism; merely a stage on the path.

You will move on to the next stage once you learn the lesson; something you can never learn by someone telling you.

But, once you learn it, you cannot unlearn it.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Are you going to say something useful (ie not be a hypocrite) or just try to attack people sitting on the fence of awakening?

Do you have any idea of how irresponsible this is?

You are inviting fear and madness into this soul.

What type of entity do you know tries to do that, hmm?

And now you see the purpose of threads like these.
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Really, do I. WTF

Outside = Inside. Enlightening.
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This thread is mainly for people who have already done the within part..next step, helping others fight their beast within. The work is not done after you have cleared your own head of the evil unfortunately.
 Quoting: Perseus7


You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.
 Quoting: Terpsichore


Nah dude. Sometimes it's appropriate to call someone wrong.

Sometimes.
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Really, do I. WTF

Outside = Inside. Enlightening.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


This thread is mainly for people who have already done the within part..next step, helping others fight their beast within. The work is not done after you have cleared your own head of the evil unfortunately.
 Quoting: Perseus7


You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.
 Quoting: Terpsichore


I would have responded similarly but for the fact that anyone who uses the word "mind" has not really observed what a 'mind' is.

A 'mind' is a spatiality of consciousness. And, because it is a spatiality, it is a duality: the duality of 'mind'/'not mind'. In other words, it is simply not possible to have a non-dual 'mind'. That would be like saying that you have drawn a circle with only an inside and not an outside.

To get to non-duality, you have to go backwards in time prior to the 'movement' of self-reflection that gave rise to the spatiality and duality of the 'mind' or the "self".

Michael
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This thread is mainly for people who have already done the within part..next step, helping others fight their beast within. The work is not done after you have cleared your own head of the evil unfortunately.
 Quoting: Perseus7


You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.
 Quoting: Terpsichore


I would have responded similarly but for the fact that anyone who uses the word "mind" has not really observed what a 'mind' is.

A 'mind' is a spatiality of consciousness. And, because it is a spatiality, it is a duality: the duality of 'mind'/'not mind'. In other words, it is simply not possible to have a non-dual 'mind'. That would be like saying that you have drawn a circle with only an inside and not an outside.

To get to non-duality, you have to go backwards in time prior to the 'movement' of self-reflection that gave rise to the spatiality and duality of the 'mind' or the "self".

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


We need to communicate. Maybe you don't understand what the word "word" means.

And by the way? We are all way ahead of you here.

Kundalini represents 'knowing' above all else. For it represents the maximum power configuration of matter and energy.

No need for a religion-themed "Son of Man" vision or what ever followed by DECADES of flawed reasoning and analysis.

You were given a chance for awakening. It was Kundalini. You missed it. Sour grapes abound.
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Intelligent design anyone? What that scientist was talking about with the block linear self dual error correcting codes are hamming algorithms. Every computer science student in the country learns how these work, because it helps detect and fix corruption on hard drives. Though we use checksums now to do this. The basic idea comes from a hamming algorithm. That will tell you whether the corrupt or missing bit is a 0 or a 1. It's pretty easy to do, and nearly magical how it works out. I never thought in the process of learning that stuff though I was peering into the source code of the Universe. Though now I suppose it makes sense. Need to have error correction in an increasingly complex system.
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I just want to explain the process of saving oneself spiritually, from my experience with the Kundalini.

I had a Spiritual Awakening, May 2011 but didn't meditate until around May 2012.

So my chakras are activated as well, but they are not open.

So these energies called Kriyas unblocks the chakras, by breathing, hand and arm movements.

The first bottom three chakras are the most important, as it's the purifiers, or balances your psyche.

So when you first start the Kundalni meditation, the Kriyas start on one half of the body, that is where I am now.

My arm and hands are controlled by the Kriyas to move energy up my body, it's like pulling strings.

When I have gotten to my Brow chakra, I started receive visions, and nightmares of what I have feared most, spiders and demons.

As my visions of being chased by demons increased, my fear also decreased. The last vision I had of this Demon, he was sitting up in the underworld, while all the other Demons were sleeping.

So, since I lost my fear of Demons I thought I would kill it by lifting him out of the underworld, and into the light, hoping he would fry.

As I pictured myself reaching down to grab him, my hands suddenly were radiated by light, it was if God was reaching down on me, and picking me up.

I suddenly felt that the Demon was me? I started to feel remorse for wanting to kill it, I felt like shit, my face puffed up in tears, I friggin just let go, like a little baby. I begged God to forgive me for wanting to kill that poor Demon, that was awake and alone in the dark. I still feel like shit to this day.

Well he wasn't ready yet to be saved as I wasn't ready yet to save him.

So when i do save him, his energy, lies in our thighs, below the root chakra. The root chakra is where Earth is, and where the dimension we live in now, and where we receive our energy from.

So when I do go and save my Demon, I will reach down below the root chakra, and pick up his energy, and bring him into my being.

His energy will be going through the same process I went through. I won't be able to save him, until I deal with issues I had brought upon myself, in my lifetime, so my faith will be able to handle the turmoil I will be facing.

Well anyway, thats my story about how I am going to save myself.

And the bible people, shoot away! but first I'm going for my meditation.

Love & peace to all
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


Probably 99% of what you have written here consists of conditioning: thoughts you have been told by others which you believe with the consciousness of the 'thinker'; images created by the consciousness of the "self", all within the context of a decision made by the "self" in the pursuit of another particular image which has been created by the "self". In other words, all of these things are activities of the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness. So how is it possible, employing the images and thoughts originating in duality, to get beyond duality?

By the way, it's really not that difficult to save a "demon". All you have to do is observe it from a different dimension of consciousness--the dimension of non-duality--rather than identifying with it on the basis of an image...

In other words, you appear to be trying too hard.

This is not in any way a criticism; merely a stage on the path.

You will move on to the next stage once you learn the lesson; something you can never learn by someone telling you.

But, once you learn it, you cannot unlearn it.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Are you going to say something useful (ie not be a hypocrite) or just try to attack people sitting on the fence of awakening?

Do you have any idea of how irresponsible this is?

You are inviting fear and madness into this soul.

What type of entity do you know tries to do that, hmm?

And now you see the purpose of threads like these.
 Quoting: pi


A certainly incredible response.

What I have done is describe the activities of the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Observing and describing those activities places a person outside of those dimensions of consciousness--it gets them out of The Matrix; which means outside of the fear engendered by the "self".

I have not in any way "attacked" anyone. I even pointed out that it was not a criticism because I have been in a similar position myself. So how could I either attack or criticize such a person?

And, as to "inviting fear and madness into this soul", the "fear and madness" is already there. By looking at it carefully, by observing it, by watching its movements, one can escape from it. In fact, I know of no other way.

This is not something that I have thought up all by myself, by the way. In significant aspects, J. Krishnamurti concurs with this approach as well.

Michael
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Intelligent design anyone? What that scientist was talking about with the block linear self dual error correcting codes are hamming algorithms. Every computer science student in the country learns how these work, because it helps detect and fix corruption on hard drives. Though we use checksums now to do this. The basic idea comes from a hamming algorithm. That will tell you whether the corrupt or missing bit is a 0 or a 1. It's pretty easy to do, and nearly magical how it works out. I never thought in the process of learning that stuff though I was peering into the source code of the Universe. Though now I suppose it makes sense. Need to have error correction in an increasingly complex system.
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Fascinating isn't it? Perseus, the OP, understands programming WAY better than I do, but it all relates back to the source in the end. After all, there is only so many ways to encode something like "memory", by man, or "GoD".
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I just want to explain the process of saving oneself spiritually, from my experience with the Kundalini.

I had a Spiritual Awakening, May 2011 but didn't meditate until around May 2012.

So my chakras are activated as well, but they are not open.

So these energies called Kriyas unblocks the chakras, by breathing, hand and arm movements.

The first bottom three chakras are the most important, as it's the purifiers, or balances your psyche.

So when you first start the Kundalni meditation, the Kriyas start on one half of the body, that is where I am now.

My arm and hands are controlled by the Kriyas to move energy up my body, it's like pulling strings.

When I have gotten to my Brow chakra, I started receive visions, and nightmares of what I have feared most, spiders and demons.

As my visions of being chased by demons increased, my fear also decreased. The last vision I had of this Demon, he was sitting up in the underworld, while all the other Demons were sleeping.

So, since I lost my fear of Demons I thought I would kill it by lifting him out of the underworld, and into the light, hoping he would fry.

As I pictured myself reaching down to grab him, my hands suddenly were radiated by light, it was if God was reaching down on me, and picking me up.

I suddenly felt that the Demon was me? I started to feel remorse for wanting to kill it, I felt like shit, my face puffed up in tears, I friggin just let go, like a little baby. I begged God to forgive me for wanting to kill that poor Demon, that was awake and alone in the dark. I still feel like shit to this day.

Well he wasn't ready yet to be saved as I wasn't ready yet to save him.

So when i do save him, his energy, lies in our thighs, below the root chakra. The root chakra is where Earth is, and where the dimension we live in now, and where we receive our energy from.

So when I do go and save my Demon, I will reach down below the root chakra, and pick up his energy, and bring him into my being.

His energy will be going through the same process I went through. I won't be able to save him, until I deal with issues I had brought upon myself, in my lifetime, so my faith will be able to handle the turmoil I will be facing.

Well anyway, thats my story about how I am going to save myself.

And the bible people, shoot away! but first I'm going for my meditation.

Love & peace to all
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1370992


Probably 99% of what you have written here consists of conditioning: thoughts you have been told by others which you believe with the consciousness of the 'thinker'; images created by the consciousness of the "self", all within the context of a decision made by the "self" in the pursuit of another particular image which has been created by the "self". In other words, all of these things are activities of the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness. So how is it possible, employing the images and thoughts originating in duality, to get beyond duality?

By the way, it's really not that difficult to save a "demon". All you have to do is observe it from a different dimension of consciousness--the dimension of non-duality--rather than identifying with it on the basis of an image...

In other words, you appear to be trying too hard.

This is not in any way a criticism; merely a stage on the path.

You will move on to the next stage once you learn the lesson; something you can never learn by someone telling you.

But, once you learn it, you cannot unlearn it.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Are you going to say something useful (ie not be a hypocrite) or just try to attack people sitting on the fence of awakening?

Do you have any idea of how irresponsible this is?

You are inviting fear and madness into this soul.

What type of entity do you know tries to do that, hmm?

And now you see the purpose of threads like these.
 Quoting: pi


A certainly incredible response.

What I have done is describe the activities of the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Observing and describing those activities places a person outside of those dimensions of consciousness--it gets them out of The Matrix; which means outside of the fear engendered by the "self".

I have not in any way "attacked" anyone. I even pointed out that it was not a criticism because I have been in a similar position myself. So how could I either attack or criticize such a person?

And, as to "inviting fear and madness into this soul", the "fear and madness" is already there. By looking at it carefully, by observing it, by watching its movements, one can escape from it. In fact, I know of no other way.

This is not something that I have thought up all by myself, by the way. In significant aspects, J. Krishnamurti concurs with this approach as well.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


You are inviting fear and doubt, and no-one here agrees with you.

AGAIN. Are you kundi-active? Do you have a clue of what you're calling out as a "demon"? Do you have a clue that if the soul is AWARE of the "possibility" of "possession", that is when Kundalini's claws sink into the mind, and the beast emerges.

You are propagating FEAR and DOUBT and you seem to only refer to Christianity (or Hinduism if you think you can show it to be "evil" after all). True religion TRANSCENDS all of the religions invented by man. They all agree on the basic story, and that's how the liars are exposed.

For example Scientology. What they say sounds believable because it follows the "religion pattern". THEN the liars jump in and "...oh, by the way, GoD's gonna torture you for eternity, unless you pay us $200. Or a demon will rape your soul, whatever. Demon protection costs extra by the way."

Demons USE fear and doubt to try and get others to follow their beliefs, and to discourage them from righteousness. Light-workers do the opposite. So are you with us or against us?
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You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.
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I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.
 Quoting: Terpsichore


I would have responded similarly but for the fact that anyone who uses the word "mind" has not really observed what a 'mind' is.

A 'mind' is a spatiality of consciousness. And, because it is a spatiality, it is a duality: the duality of 'mind'/'not mind'. In other words, it is simply not possible to have a non-dual 'mind'. That would be like saying that you have drawn a circle with only an inside and not an outside.

To get to non-duality, you have to go backwards in time prior to the 'movement' of self-reflection that gave rise to the spatiality and duality of the 'mind' or the "self".

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


We need to communicate. Maybe you don't understand what the word "word" means.

And by the way? We are all way ahead of you here.

Kundalini represents 'knowing' above all else. For it represents the maximum power configuration of matter and energy.

No need for a religion-themed "Son of Man" vision or what ever followed by DECADES of flawed reasoning and analysis.

You were given a chance for awakening. It was Kundalini. You missed it. Sour grapes abound.
 Quoting: pi


You have no idea what the Vision of the "Son of man" is.

None.

Why?

Because even the monotheistic religious 'authorities' don't know what that Vision is.

Why?

Because it is "sealed" or hidden Knowledge (see Chapter 12:9 of the Book of Daniel).

In Genesis 3:24 it is symbolized as the "Tree of Life"--the way to which is guarded by the flame of a flashing sword--which is also called the "sidrah tree" and the "Night Journey" in the Quran.

And, if you watch the YouTube video of the "Stargate Sequence" from 2001--A Space Odyssey, you will see/hear a passable representation of what that Vision is and the Knowledge Revealed through that Vision.

Michael
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Intelligent design anyone? What that scientist was talking about with the block linear self dual error correcting codes are hamming algorithms. Every computer science student in the country learns how these work, because it helps detect and fix corruption on hard drives. Though we use checksums now to do this. The basic idea comes from a hamming algorithm. That will tell you whether the corrupt or missing bit is a 0 or a 1. It's pretty easy to do, and nearly magical how it works out. I never thought in the process of learning that stuff though I was peering into the source code of the Universe. Though now I suppose it makes sense. Need to have error correction in an increasingly complex system.
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Fascinating isn't it? Perseus, the OP, understands programming WAY better than I do, but it all relates back to the source in the end. After all, there is only so many ways to encode something like "memory", by man, or "GoD".
 Quoting: pi


Beyond fascinating. Almost put me into a sense of wow. It'll give me something to think about next time the topic of error correction comes up in conversation. I am a programmer so it probably will sooner or later.
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Probably 99% of what you have written here consists of conditioning: thoughts you have been told by others which you believe with the consciousness of the 'thinker'; images created by the consciousness of the "self", all within the context of a decision made by the "self" in the pursuit of another particular image which has been created by the "self". In other words, all of these things are activities of the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness. So how is it possible, employing the images and thoughts originating in duality, to get beyond duality?

By the way, it's really not that difficult to save a "demon". All you have to do is observe it from a different dimension of consciousness--the dimension of non-duality--rather than identifying with it on the basis of an image...

In other words, you appear to be trying too hard.

This is not in any way a criticism; merely a stage on the path.

You will move on to the next stage once you learn the lesson; something you can never learn by someone telling you.

But, once you learn it, you cannot unlearn it.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


Are you going to say something useful (ie not be a hypocrite) or just try to attack people sitting on the fence of awakening?

Do you have any idea of how irresponsible this is?

You are inviting fear and madness into this soul.

What type of entity do you know tries to do that, hmm?

And now you see the purpose of threads like these.
 Quoting: pi


A certainly incredible response.

What I have done is describe the activities of the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Observing and describing those activities places a person outside of those dimensions of consciousness--it gets them out of The Matrix; which means outside of the fear engendered by the "self".

I have not in any way "attacked" anyone. I even pointed out that it was not a criticism because I have been in a similar position myself. So how could I either attack or criticize such a person?

And, as to "inviting fear and madness into this soul", the "fear and madness" is already there. By looking at it carefully, by observing it, by watching its movements, one can escape from it. In fact, I know of no other way.

This is not something that I have thought up all by myself, by the way. In significant aspects, J. Krishnamurti concurs with this approach as well.

Michael
 Quoting: 4Q529


You are inviting fear and doubt, and no-one here agrees with you.

AGAIN. Are you kundi-active? Do you have a clue of what you're calling out as a "demon"? Do you have a clue that if the soul is AWARE of the "possibility" of "possession", that is when Kundalini's claws sink into the mind, and the beast emerges.

You are propagating FEAR and DOUBT and you seem to only refer to Christianity (or Hinduism if you think you can show it to be "evil" after all). True religion TRANSCENDS all of the religions invented by man. They all agree on the basic story, and that's how the liars are exposed.

For example Scientology. What they say sounds believable because it follows the "religion pattern". THEN the liars jump in and "...oh, by the way, GoD's gonna torture you for eternity, unless you pay us $200. Or a demon will rape your soul, whatever. Demon protection costs extra by the way."

Demons USE fear and doubt to try and get others to follow their beliefs, and to discourage them from righteousness. Light-workers do the opposite. So are you with us or against us?
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Just a word about the dimensions of consciousness, of which there are 3: 1) the non-dualistic, non-temporal, 2-dimensional 'flat' space consciousness; 2) the 3-dimensional 'curved space', dualistic consciousness of the "self"; and, 3) the extension of the consciousness of the "self" in time; that is, the dualistic consciousness of the 'thinker'.

The "self" is referred to as the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil". That is, it originates in fear and desire, projecting all evil upon the "other" or the "not self" and introjecting all good into the "self".

To the consciousness of the "self", the non-dualistic, non-temporal, 2-dimensional 'flat' space consciousness is equivalent to the "not self". Thus, the consciousness of the "self" projects all manner of evil upon the non-dualistic consciousness.

This conflict at the level of consciousness was demonstrated in the conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.

They said he was "possessed by demons" because of the Doctrine that he taught.

And I am certainly not looking for any followers.

Followers mean responsibility.

I am merely conveying the Knowledge I have received.

Believing it or not is certainly your choice and I don't particularly care what you choose.

Does that make things a little clearer?

Michael
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This conflict at the level of consciousness was demonstrated in the conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.

They said he was "possessed by demons" because of the Doctrine that he taught.

And I am certainly not looking for any followers.

Followers mean responsibility.

I am merely conveying the Knowledge I have received.

Believing it or not is certainly your choice and I don't particularly care what you choose.

Does that make things a little clearer?

Michael
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Yes, yes it does, because it is now obvious that you have completely missed the point. Meditation, religion etc. is about ARCHETYPES, not doctrine. If you can empathize with an ARCHETYPE (read: a scalar entity) then it doesn't matter if it's dancing, blue Shiva, chubby, cheery Buddha, or lovely lamb Christ of Nazareth. They are the same.

And you are clearly looking for followers. That's what doctrine is for.
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This conflict at the level of consciousness was demonstrated in the conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.

They said he was "possessed by demons" because of the Doctrine that he taught.

And I am certainly not looking for any followers.

Followers mean responsibility.

I am merely conveying the Knowledge I have received.

Believing it or not is certainly your choice and I don't particularly care what you choose.

Does that make things a little clearer?

Michael
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Yes, yes it does, because it is now obvious that you have completely missed the point. Meditation, religion etc. is about ARCHETYPES, not doctrine. If you can empathize with an ARCHETYPE (read: a scalar entity) then it doesn't matter if it's dancing, blue Shiva, chubby, cheery Buddha, or lovely lamb Christ of Nazareth. They are the same.

And you are clearly looking for followers. That's what doctrine is for.
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Oh, OK.

Now I see the problem.

There is a difference between Revelation and religion. In fact, religion consists of the thoughts of a 'thinker' which deny and contradict the original Revelations received by Moses, the prophets, Jesus and Mohammed.

The Vision of the "Son of man" is referred to in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls (written by Jesus, by the way--although you will not, for obvious reasons, ever read that in the media) as the "Vision of Knowledge".

And I am still not looking for followers.

Michael
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I just want to explain the process of saving oneself spiritually, from my experience with the Kundalini.

I had a Spiritual Awakening, May 2011 but didn't meditate until around May 2012.

So my chakras are activated as well, but they are not open.

So these energies called Kriyas unblocks the chakras, by breathing, hand and arm movements.

The first bottom three chakras are the most important, as it's the purifiers, or balances your psyche.

So when you first start the Kundalni meditation, the Kriyas start on one half of the body, that is where I am now.

My arm and hands are controlled by the Kriyas to move energy up my body, it's like pulling strings.

When I have gotten to my Brow chakra, I started receive visions, and nightmares of what I have feared most, spiders and demons.

As my visions of being chased by demons increased, my fear also decreased. The last vision I had of this Demon, he was sitting up in the underworld, while all the other Demons were sleeping.

So, since I lost my fear of Demons I thought I would kill it by lifting him out of the underworld, and into the light, hoping he would fry.

As I pictured myself reaching down to grab him, my hands suddenly were radiated by light, it was if God was reaching down on me, and picking me up.

I suddenly felt that the Demon was me? I started to feel remorse for wanting to kill it, I felt like shit, my face puffed up in tears, I friggin just let go, like a little baby. I begged God to forgive me for wanting to kill that poor Demon, that was awake and alone in the dark. I still feel like shit to this day.

Well he wasn't ready yet to be saved as I wasn't ready yet to save him.

So when i do save him, his energy, lies in our thighs, below the root chakra. The root chakra is where Earth is, and where the dimension we live in now, and where we receive our energy from.

So when I do go and save my Demon, I will reach down below the root chakra, and pick up his energy, and bring him into my being.

His energy will be going through the same process I went through. I won't be able to save him, until I deal with issues I had brought upon myself, in my lifetime, so my faith will be able to handle the turmoil I will be facing.

Well anyway, thats my story about how I am going to save myself.

And the bible people, shoot away! but first I'm going for my meditation.

Love & peace to all
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Probably 99% of what you have written here consists of conditioning: thoughts you have been told by others which you believe with the consciousness of the 'thinker'; images created by the consciousness of the "self", all within the context of a decision made by the "self" in the pursuit of another particular image which has been created by the "self". In other words, all of these things are activities of the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness. So how is it possible, employing the images and thoughts originating in duality, to get beyond duality?

By the way, it's really not that difficult to save a "demon". All you have to do is observe it from a different dimension of consciousness--the dimension of non-duality--rather than identifying with it on the basis of an image...

In other words, you appear to be trying too hard.

This is not in any way a criticism; merely a stage on the path.

You will move on to the next stage once you learn the lesson; something you can never learn by someone telling you.

But, once you learn it, you cannot unlearn it.

Michael
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Thoughts by being told by others? You sir have no clue as what I have been told, as now one actually told me or taught me anything.

Saving my demon, is bringing him up to the surface for healing, and repenting together, so I can move forward.

Trying to hard, how am I trying to hard? I just go with the flow, and what is given to me to learn about myself.

the lesson to be learned is about the truth of my true nature, which is given to me in small doses.

It's hard climb, but having faith in myself is having faith in God.

What I experience is as real as it gets for me, it was clearly a message to be learned, that we can't judge anything by it's cover, or our fears hold our greatest strength.
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I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.
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I would have responded similarly but for the fact that anyone who uses the word "mind" has not really observed what a 'mind' is.

A 'mind' is a spatiality of consciousness. And, because it is a spatiality, it is a duality: the duality of 'mind'/'not mind'. In other words, it is simply not possible to have a non-dual 'mind'. That would be like saying that you have drawn a circle with only an inside and not an outside.

To get to non-duality, you have to go backwards in time prior to the 'movement' of self-reflection that gave rise to the spatiality and duality of the 'mind' or the "self".

Michael
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We need to communicate. Maybe you don't understand what the word "word" means.

And by the way? We are all way ahead of you here.

Kundalini represents 'knowing' above all else. For it represents the maximum power configuration of matter and energy.

No need for a religion-themed "Son of Man" vision or what ever followed by DECADES of flawed reasoning and analysis.

You were given a chance for awakening. It was Kundalini. You missed it. Sour grapes abound.
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You have no idea what the Vision of the "Son of man" is.

None.

Why?

Because even the monotheistic religious 'authorities' don't know what that Vision is.

Why?

Because it is "sealed" or hidden Knowledge (see Chapter 12:9 of the Book of Daniel).

In Genesis 3:24 it is symbolized as the "Tree of Life"--the way to which is guarded by the flame of a flashing sword--which is also called the "sidrah tree" and the "Night Journey" in the Quran.

And, if you watch the YouTube video of the "Stargate Sequence" from 2001--A Space Odyssey, you will see/hear a passable representation of what that Vision is and the Knowledge Revealed through that Vision.

Michael
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It has been opened already. By a Man, here on Earth. He lives among us, as one of us. Your pain is his pain. He knows what we are going through. Allow him to enter you and your heart will overflow with tears of Joy and pain and loneliness. All his feelings, you will feel. And all your feelings, he will feel also. No words will be necessary.
Do not be scared of his touch. If it's too much, just let him know. He will take his time with you.
Be patient in yourself and do not fear.
Trust that you are pure enough for him to enter, you are. Otherwise he wouldn't be here with you now.
The Angels are among us.
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I just want to explain the process of saving oneself spiritually, from my experience with the Kundalini.

I had a Spiritual Awakening, May 2011 but didn't meditate until around May 2012.

So my chakras are activated as well, but they are not open.

So these energies called Kriyas unblocks the chakras, by breathing, hand and arm movements.

The first bottom three chakras are the most important, as it's the purifiers, or balances your psyche.

So when you first start the Kundalni meditation, the Kriyas start on one half of the body, that is where I am now.

My arm and hands are controlled by the Kriyas to move energy up my body, it's like pulling strings.

When I have gotten to my Brow chakra, I started receive visions, and nightmares of what I have feared most, spiders and demons.

As my visions of being chased by demons increased, my fear also decreased. The last vision I had of this Demon, he was sitting up in the underworld, while all the other Demons were sleeping.

So, since I lost my fear of Demons I thought I would kill it by lifting him out of the underworld, and into the light, hoping he would fry.

As I pictured myself reaching down to grab him, my hands suddenly were radiated by light, it was if God was reaching down on me, and picking me up.

I suddenly felt that the Demon was me? I started to feel remorse for wanting to kill it, I felt like shit, my face puffed up in tears, I friggin just let go, like a little baby. I begged God to forgive me for wanting to kill that poor Demon, that was awake and alone in the dark. I still feel like shit to this day.

Well he wasn't ready yet to be saved as I wasn't ready yet to save him.

So when i do save him, his energy, lies in our thighs, below the root chakra. The root chakra is where Earth is, and where the dimension we live in now, and where we receive our energy from.

So when I do go and save my Demon, I will reach down below the root chakra, and pick up his energy, and bring him into my being.

His energy will be going through the same process I went through. I won't be able to save him, until I deal with issues I had brought upon myself, in my lifetime, so my faith will be able to handle the turmoil I will be facing.

Well anyway, thats my story about how I am going to save myself.

And the bible people, shoot away! but first I'm going for my meditation.

Love & peace to all
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Probably 99% of what you have written here consists of conditioning: thoughts you have been told by others which you believe with the consciousness of the 'thinker'; images created by the consciousness of the "self", all within the context of a decision made by the "self" in the pursuit of another particular image which has been created by the "self". In other words, all of these things are activities of the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness. So how is it possible, employing the images and thoughts originating in duality, to get beyond duality?

By the way, it's really not that difficult to save a "demon". All you have to do is observe it from a different dimension of consciousness--the dimension of non-duality--rather than identifying with it on the basis of an image...

In other words, you appear to be trying too hard.

This is not in any way a criticism; merely a stage on the path.

You will move on to the next stage once you learn the lesson; something you can never learn by someone telling you.

But, once you learn it, you cannot unlearn it.

Michael
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Are you going to say something useful (ie not be a hypocrite) or just try to attack people sitting on the fence of awakening?

Do you have any idea of how irresponsible this is?

You are inviting fear and madness into this soul.

What type of entity do you know tries to do that, hmm?

And now you see the purpose of threads like these.
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A certainly incredible response.

What I have done is describe the activities of the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Observing and describing those activities places a person outside of those dimensions of consciousness--it gets them out of The Matrix; which means outside of the fear engendered by the "self".

I have not in any way "attacked" anyone. I even pointed out that it was not a criticism because I have been in a similar position myself. So how could I either attack or criticize such a person?

And, as to "inviting fear and madness into this soul", the "fear and madness" is already there. By looking at it carefully, by observing it, by watching its movements, one can escape from it. In fact, I know of no other way.

This is not something that I have thought up all by myself, by the way. In significant aspects, J. Krishnamurti concurs with this approach as well.

Michael
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The Fear and madness is slowly going away.

We can learn the philosophy teachings of ones mind, but to experience it, is totally different. To much jibberish in books, that get to way technical for my liking.
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This conflict at the level of consciousness was demonstrated in the conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.

They said he was "possessed by demons" because of the Doctrine that he taught.

And I am certainly not looking for any followers.

Followers mean responsibility.

I am merely conveying the Knowledge I have received.

Believing it or not is certainly your choice and I don't particularly care what you choose.

Does that make things a little clearer?

Michael
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Yes, yes it does, because it is now obvious that you have completely missed the point. Meditation, religion etc. is about ARCHETYPES, not doctrine. If you can empathize with an ARCHETYPE (read: a scalar entity) then it doesn't matter if it's dancing, blue Shiva, chubby, cheery Buddha, or lovely lamb Christ of Nazareth. They are the same.

And you are clearly looking for followers. That's what doctrine is for.
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Oh, OK.

Now I see the problem.

There is a difference between Revelation and religion. In fact, religion consists of the thoughts of a 'thinker' which deny and contradict the original Revelations received by Moses, the prophets, Jesus and Mohammed.

The Vision of the "Son of man" is referred to in the Thanksgiving Hymns of the Dead Sea Scrolls (written by Jesus, by the way--although you will not, for obvious reasons, ever read that in the media) as the "Vision of Knowledge".

And I am still not looking for followers.

Michael
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So in other words, YOU are illuminated, I am not, and thus I have "much to learn"... yes? THAT is why people HATE religion these days.

You have no idea of the extent of what I believe, or of the OP, or of anyone else you have tried to confuse with your old man in the sky talk. The OP, Perseus7, and I, among many others on this board, have all had "visions" and I personally have had a least two that relate to "the Son of Man".

What we know goes far, FAR beyond the tired doctrines of "Jesus Freaks". And guess what buddy? Christ the LORD died for our sins. Through his righteousness, all mankind is spared the eternity of Hell. So we've no need for your "kundalini is a demon" lies.
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This thread is mainly for people who have already done the within part..next step, helping others fight their beast within. The work is not done after you have cleared your own head of the evil unfortunately.
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You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.
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I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.
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Nah dude. Sometimes it's appropriate to call someone wrong.

Sometimes.
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First I want to inform you that I am a female from birth until this very day and forward until I leave this earthly shell. I am hearing the words "You are wrong" all the time lately being told to others and also hearing it directed at me. Most notably from unenlightened people who do not even care to be enlightened. I am not including you in this assessment. I do agree fully that duality is the nature of human beings ans that it is nearly impossible to overcome in this realm, but after reading this entire thread (too short, I might add, where do I get more?) I am sure that is is possible to overcome that duality; although I am not there yet. This is evidenced by my need to defend myself all the time and my tendency to get angry with people who refuse to acknowledge their actions and words (not you but my real time family and friends).

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Thoughts by being told by others? You sir have no clue as what I have been told, as now one actually told me or taught me anything.

Saving my demon, is bringing him up to the surface for healing, and repenting together, so I can move forward.

Trying to hard, how am I trying to hard? I just go with the flow, and what is given to me to learn about myself.

the lesson to be learned is about the truth of my true nature, which is given to me in small doses.

It's hard climb, but having faith in myself is having faith in God.

What I experience is as real as it gets for me, it was clearly a message to be learned, that we can't judge anything by it's cover, or our fears hold our greatest strength.
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This is excellent.

Don't worry about it. Seriously. You are on the path of LIGHT now, no turning back. No fear, and go at it at your own pace.

And remember: All is as it Should Be.
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I don't care the face of it - will we fight or resolve?

Resist or embrace?

Condemn or understand?

As long as we hate, ridicule, blame - we take the back seat.

I'm not talking about new age crap either - I'm talking about being the bigger person who is willing to understand duality - empathize with darkness - know the roots not the face...

Such a way of being is possible, one who loves unconditionally, yet is not a doormat, one who defends themselves respectfully - yet does not slam the door closed.

When you can embody this balance - that force which you term "beast" will scatter from you - you have no footholds, you insist on co-respect - even if this means defending yourself - yet the door remains open as we treat others as we would wish to be treated if you too were a "beast"...

I've been surprised while traveling beyond this reality, into worlds of brilliant light and of wicked, wicked darkness - even in the depths of darkness - you can bring light - I've told jokes and made evil looking things crack-up - I've asked them "why are you so desperate to use fear against me?" They will scatter to avoid any further contact - or, as in one particular case, they respond: "No one has ever asked me that before..."

Not a single one is lost forever, offer a helping hand instead of a backwards fist...
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I am a female from birth until this very day and forward but I am hearing the words "You are wrong" all the time lately being told to others and hearing it directed at me all from unenlightened people who do not even care to be enlightened. I am including you in this assessment. I do agree that duality is the nature of human beings, but after reading this entire thread (too short, I might add, where do I get more?) I am sure that is is possible to overcome that duality although I am not there yet. Evidenced by my need to defend myself all the time and to get angry with people who refuse to acknowledge their actions and words (not you but my real time family and friends).
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Hmm. Well my apologies. And certainly you are right. It is a terrible injustice to be denied in this way.

Though as you may have noticed, we are on a bit of a "mission" here. Some people eventually reach a state where the only thing that truly engages them is going after "evil" as it were.

I made an exception, because the poster addressing you was spreading what I like to call "windworn" doctrines. That means, it seems complex and meaningful, since it resembles light-working proper. I called him 'wrong' so as to invoke his aggression and cause him to reveal a more obvious flaw in the "windworn" doctrine.

And I'm afraid I can't send you anyplace to help with achieving non-duality, as it is subjective and the info is gleaned from all sorts of life experiences. But you'll get it eventually. Psychedelic drugs help.
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First I want to inform you that I am a female from birth until this very day and forward until I leave this earthly shell.
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I have just realized that my use of the word "dude" may have been inferred as a masculine reference, this was not so. I have nothing but praise for you dear.
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You people talk just to hear yourselves talk. Can't even hear when someone is talking to you. And you wouldn't know it if they did.
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The determined practice of certain disciplines and techniques whose specific purpose is to 'arouse' the kundalini is referred to in the Revelation of John as the "teachings of the Nicolaitans". This is specifically condemned by the Revelations. In its most perverse manifestation, the 'arousal' of kundalini results in the establishing of a Satanic equivalence between the "self" and God.

On the other hand, the Vision of the "Son of man" can very loosely be described as being, in certain ways, 'similar' to the spontaneous--that is, NOT as a result of practicing certain disciplines or techniques--experience of kundalini.

The 'activation' of kundalini does not necessary result in a positive outcome. It can just as easily result in insanity. In other words, it is intrinsically of the 'fallen', dualistic consciousness of, primarily, the "self" rather than the 'thinker'.

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Kundalini awakening does not result in insanity. Insanity IS a failed awakening, that can be rectified through exorcism, or in other cases, psychiatric shamanism.

Pretty soon people like you won't be able to wield "insanity" as a memetic weapon to further attack the downtrodden and confused. So that you can seem all big and smart and put together.

Your interpretation of the Bible is wrong, wrong wrong and is exactly what the liars would like you to believe; those ones that literally sell religion to individuals seeking answers, the true scum o' the Earth.
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The disastrous consequences of a 'too rapid' or 'unprepared' arousal of kundalini have been well-documented. See some of the writings of Dr. Lee Sanella who studied this since the late 1970's. (I was in contact with him in 1978 or 79 as I recall.)

Read Kundalini: the Evolutionary Energy In Man about 38 years ago. Gopi Krishna 'successfully' 'aroused' kundalini; and ended up 'thinking' that he was 'God'.

I call that insanity.

And, if you don't want to believe that, fine by me. Just try it and find out for yourself.

And I don't interpret the Bible. Interpretation is an activity of the consciousness of the 'thinker'. The Knowledge I am talking about is specifically and directly conveyed by the Vision of the "Son of man" and the Revelation of the "resurrection". The "false prophet" Jewish, Christian and Muslim religious 'authorities' have made trillions of dollars denying and contradicting that Knowledge; which is why the world is in the state that it is: "My people perish for lack of Knowledge."

Michael
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Hey! That's what I felt during my Awakening, I felt like I Gods powers. The high was intense, in that I felt like I could move mountains and open up portals.

I also thought I was in an energy bubble. In the bubble, the air was thin and bright. Outside of it, the air was dark, thick like molasses, and everything was in a waving motion.

This lasted about 30sec to a minute. After that my energy was sucked right out me, couldn't talk, cold and shivering, for about an hour.

Gobi Krishina aroused the Kundalini, in that it wasn't spontaneous.

When it's spontaneous, it's a gift from the divine, as I had no clue about meditation, and Kundalini, but thats just my thoughts.
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Hey! That's what I felt during my Awakening, I felt like I Gods powers. The high was intense, in that I felt like I could move mountains and open up portals.

I also thought I was in an energy bubble. In the bubble, the air was thin and bright. Outside of it, the air was dark, thick like molasses, and everything was in a waving motion.

This lasted about 30sec to a minute. After that my energy was sucked right out me, couldn't talk, cold and shivering, for about an hour.

Gobi Krishina aroused the Kundalini, in that it wasn't spontaneous.

When it's spontaneous, it's a gift from the divine, as I had no clue about meditation, and Kundalini, but thats just my thoughts.
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There is a thread in which a bunch of us mention how meditation and kundalini feel, and it is absolutely true that one feels like a god. Like a river of electricity flowing from the earth, to the infinite spirit realm of which you are both apart and separate. Quite nice :)

Seems a little odd that it drained you. I tend to feel burnt out inside after a good channeling sesh.

Check this resource if you will, it is excellent.

[link to biologyofkundalini.com]

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Thoughts by being told by others? You sir have no clue as what I have been told, as now one actually told me or taught me anything.

Saving my demon, is bringing him up to the surface for healing, and repenting together, so I can move forward.

Trying to hard, how am I trying to hard? I just go with the flow, and what is given to me to learn about myself.

the lesson to be learned is about the truth of my true nature, which is given to me in small doses.

It's hard climb, but having faith in myself is having faith in God.

What I experience is as real as it gets for me, it was clearly a message to be learned, that we can't judge anything by it's cover, or our fears hold our greatest strength.
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This is excellent.

Don't worry about it. Seriously. You are on the path of LIGHT now, no turning back. No fear, and go at it at your own pace.

And remember: All is as it Should Be.
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Thank you for your support.

It used to bother me, what other people thought, as I was beginning to feel separated from the system we live in. Know one was relating to me, as I was looking for a teacher to help me through this.

Went to all the churches who laughed at me, so called spiritual people in my city, to my doctor, who ended up diagnosing me with bi-polar.

Now! I find it funny, all I needed to do, is listen to my heart, my teacher.

Thx again, I'm sure you will be given the opportunity, as well as the rest of the world.

Peace & Love
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Hey! That's what I felt during my Awakening, I felt like I Gods powers. The high was intense, in that I felt like I could move mountains and open up portals.

I also thought I was in an energy bubble. In the bubble, the air was thin and bright. Outside of it, the air was dark, thick like molasses, and everything was in a waving motion.

This lasted about 30sec to a minute. After that my energy was sucked right out me, couldn't talk, cold and shivering, for about an hour.

Gobi Krishina aroused the Kundalini, in that it wasn't spontaneous.

When it's spontaneous, it's a gift from the divine, as I had no clue about meditation, and Kundalini, but thats just my thoughts.
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There is a thread in which a bunch of us mention how meditation and kundalini feel, and it is absolutely true that one feels like a god. Like a river of electricity flowing from the earth, to the infinite spirit realm of which you are both apart and separate. Quite nice :)

Seems a little odd that it drained you. I tend to feel burnt out inside after a good channeling sesh.

Check this resource if you will, it is excellent.

[link to biologyofkundalini.com]
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Three kinds of awakenings

The awakening of the Heart chakra( to become one, with oneself)

The awakening of the heart & brow chakra( to become on with nature, Mother)

The awakening of the Heart, Brow, and Crown chakra( to become one with the Universe, Father) That is called a full blown Kundalini Awakening.

When the spirits awakes in ones body, it uses our energy, and since we are not grounded, there is no energy coming in.
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I don't care the face of it - will we fight or resolve?

Resist or embrace?

Condemn or understand?

As long as we hate, ridicule, blame - we take the back seat.

I'm not talking about new age crap either - I'm talking about being the bigger person who is willing to understand duality - empathize with darkness - know the roots not the face...

Such a way of being is possible, one who loves unconditionally, yet is not a doormat, one who defends themselves respectfully - yet does not slam the door closed.

When you can embody this balance - that force which you term "beast" will scatter from you - you have no footholds, you insist on co-respect - even if this means defending yourself - yet the door remains open as we treat others as we would wish to be treated if you too were a "beast"...

I've been surprised while traveling beyond this reality, into worlds of brilliant light and of wicked, wicked darkness - even in the depths of darkness - you can bring light - I've told jokes and made evil looking things crack-up - I've asked them "why are you so desperate to use fear against me?" They will scatter to avoid any further contact - or, as in one particular case, they respond: "No one has ever asked me that before..."

Not a single one is lost forever, offer a helping hand instead of a backwards fist...
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YAY!!! This is fucking amazing! I loooove this so much. :) Resonates... agrees with me so fully and completely.

Have come to a place in my journey where I seek this exact balance...

Also, during my journey, I have come to be 'the joker'. A game... it's all a game. Therefore, I am free to observe, be playful, and laugh at the most serious things... Insanity, maybe, lol. But, I know I have a deep, uncondtional love for all beings. I know I am love.

I even love my demons... for without them, I would not have grown as much as I have and would've probably been bored out of my freakin mind... And holy hell, have I had some demons in my lifetime. Ah well, we are friends now...

This thread still fascinates me... soaking up as much as possible, and storing it away in my databank for future reference...

Please, post more ^_^ ...seriously, I'm learning new stuff here, which is like the best drug in the world to me.

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