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This thread is mainly for people who have already done the within part..next step, helping others fight their beast within. The work is not done after you have cleared your own head of the evil unfortunately.

The disastrous consequences of a 'too rapid' or 'unprepared' arousal of kundalini have been well-documented. See some of the writings of Dr. Lee Sanella who studied this since the late 1970's. (I was in contact with him in 1978 or 79 as I recall.)

Read Kundalini: the Evolutionary Energy In Man about 38 years ago. Gopi Krishna 'successfully' 'aroused' kundalini; and ended up 'thinking' that he was 'God'.

I call that insanity.

And, if you don't want to believe that, fine by me. Just try it and find out for yourself.

Michael

I just want to explain the process of saving oneself spiritually, from my experience with the Kundalini.

I had a Spiritual Awakening, May 2011 but didn't meditate until around May 2012.

So my chakras are activated as well, but they are not open.

So these energies called Kriyas unblocks the chakras, by breathing, hand and arm movements.

The first bottom three chakras are the most important, as it's the purifiers, or balances your psyche.

So when you first start the Kundalni meditation, the Kriyas start on one half of the body, that is where I am now.

My arm and hands are controlled by the Kriyas to move energy up my body, it's like pulling strings.

When I have gotten to my Brow chakra, I started receive visions, and nightmares of what I have feared most, spiders and demons.

As my visions of being chased by demons increased, my fear also decreased. The last vision I had of this Demon, he was sitting up in the underworld, while all the other Demons were sleeping.

So, since I lost my fear of Demons I thought I would kill it by lifting him out of the underworld, and into the light, hoping he would fry.

As I pictured myself reaching down to grab him, my hands suddenly were radiated by light, it was if God was reaching down on me, and picking me up.

I suddenly felt that the Demon was me? I started to feel remorse for wanting to kill it, I felt like shit, my face puffed up in tears, I friggin just let go, like a little baby. I begged God to forgive me for wanting to kill that poor Demon, that was awake and alone in the dark. I still feel like shit to this day.

Well he wasn't ready yet to be saved as I wasn't ready yet to save him.

So when i do save him, his energy, lies in our thighs, below the root chakra. The root chakra is where Earth is, and where the dimension we live in now, and where we receive our energy from.

So when I do go and save my Demon, I will reach down below the root chakra, and pick up his energy, and bring him into my being.

His energy will be going through the same process I went through. I won't be able to save him, until I deal with issues I had brought upon myself, in my lifetime, so my faith will be able to handle the turmoil I will be facing.

Well anyway, thats my story about how I am going to save myself.

And the bible people, shoot away! but first I'm going for my meditation.

Love & peace to all

You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.

You cannot separate your mind from duality. You are very wrong.

I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.

Probably 99% of what you have written here consists of conditioning: thoughts you have been told by others which you believe with the consciousness of the 'thinker'; images created by the consciousness of the "self", all within the context of a decision made by the "self" in the pursuit of another particular image which has been created by the "self". In other words, all of these things are activities of the dualistic, 'fallen' consciousness. So how is it possible, employing the images and thoughts originating in duality, to get beyond duality?

By the way, it's really not that difficult to save a "demon". All you have to do is observe it from a different dimension of consciousness--the dimension of non-duality--rather than identifying with it on the basis of an image...

In other words, you appear to be trying too hard.

This is not in any way a criticism; merely a stage on the path.

You will move on to the next stage once you learn the lesson; something you can never learn by someone telling you.

But, once you learn it, you cannot unlearn it.

Michael

Are you going to say something useful (ie not be a hypocrite) or just try to attack people sitting on the fence of awakening?

Do you have any idea of how irresponsible this is?

You are inviting fear and madness into this soul.

What type of entity do you know tries to do that, hmm?

And now you see the purpose of threads like these.

I would have responded similarly but for the fact that anyone who uses the word "mind" has not really observed what a 'mind' is.

A 'mind' is a spatiality of consciousness. And, because it is a spatiality, it is a duality: the duality of 'mind'/'not mind'. In other words, it is simply not possible to have a non-dual 'mind'. That would be like saying that you have drawn a circle with only an inside and not an outside.

To get to non-duality, you have to go backwards in time prior to the 'movement' of self-reflection that gave rise to the spatiality and duality of the 'mind' or the "self".

Michael

Intelligent design anyone? What that scientist was talking about with the block linear self dual error correcting codes are hamming algorithms. Every computer science student in the country learns how these work, because it helps detect and fix corruption on hard drives. Though we use checksums now to do this. The basic idea comes from a hamming algorithm. That will tell you whether the corrupt or missing bit is a 0 or a 1. It's pretty easy to do, and nearly magical how it works out. I never thought in the process of learning that stuff though I was peering into the source code of the Universe. Though now I suppose it makes sense. Need to have error correction in an increasingly complex system.

A certainly incredible response.

What I have done is describe the activities of the consciousness of the "self" and the 'thinker'. Observing and describing those activities places a person outside of those dimensions of consciousness--it gets them out of The Matrix; which means outside of the fear engendered by the "self".

I have not in any way "attacked" anyone. I even pointed out that it was not a criticism because I have been in a similar position myself. So how could I either attack or criticize such a person?

And, as to "inviting fear and madness into this soul", the "fear and madness" is already there. By looking at it carefully, by observing it, by watching its movements, one can escape from it. In fact, I know of no other way.

This is not something that I have thought up all by myself, by the way. In significant aspects, J. Krishnamurti concurs with this approach as well.

Michael

This conflict at the level of consciousness was demonstrated in the conflict between Jesus and the Jewish priesthood.

They said he was "possessed by demons" because of the Doctrine that he taught.

And I am certainly not looking for any followers.

Followers mean responsibility.

I am merely conveying the Knowledge I have received.

Believing it or not is certainly your choice and I don't particularly care what you choose.

Does that make things a little clearer?

Michael

I just want to explain the process of saving oneself spiritually, from my experience with the Kundalini.

I had a Spiritual Awakening, May 2011 but didn't meditate until around May 2012.

So my chakras are activated as well, but they are not open.

So these energies called Kriyas unblocks the chakras, by breathing, hand and arm movements.

The first bottom three chakras are the most important, as it's the purifiers, or balances your psyche.

So when you first start the Kundalni meditation, the Kriyas start on one half of the body, that is where I am now.

My arm and hands are controlled by the Kriyas to move energy up my body, it's like pulling strings.

When I have gotten to my Brow chakra, I started receive visions, and nightmares of what I have feared most, spiders and demons.

As my visions of being chased by demons increased, my fear also decreased. The last vision I had of this Demon, he was sitting up in the underworld, while all the other Demons were sleeping.

So, since I lost my fear of Demons I thought I would kill it by lifting him out of the underworld, and into the light, hoping he would fry.

As I pictured myself reaching down to grab him, my hands suddenly were radiated by light, it was if God was reaching down on me, and picking me up.

I suddenly felt that the Demon was me? I started to feel remorse for wanting to kill it, I felt like shit, my face puffed up in tears, I friggin just let go, like a little baby. I begged God to forgive me for wanting to kill that poor Demon, that was awake and alone in the dark. I still feel like shit to this day.

Well he wasn't ready yet to be saved as I wasn't ready yet to save him.

So when i do save him, his energy, lies in our thighs, below the root chakra. The root chakra is where Earth is, and where the dimension we live in now, and where we receive our energy from.

So when I do go and save my Demon, I will reach down below the root chakra, and pick up his energy, and bring him into my being.

His energy will be going through the same process I went through. I won't be able to save him, until I deal with issues I had brought upon myself, in my lifetime, so my faith will be able to handle the turmoil I will be facing.

Well anyway, thats my story about how I am going to save myself.

And the bible people, shoot away! but first I'm going for my meditation.

Love & peace to all

We need to communicate. Maybe you don't understand what the word "word" means.

And by the way? We are all way ahead of you here.

Kundalini represents 'knowing' above all else. For it represents the maximum power configuration of matter and energy.

No need for a religion-themed "Son of Man" vision or what ever followed by DECADES of flawed reasoning and analysis.

You were given a chance for awakening. It was Kundalini. You missed it. Sour grapes abound.

Are you going to say something useful (ie not be a hypocrite) or just try to attack people sitting on the fence of awakening?

Do you have any idea of how irresponsible this is?

You are inviting fear and madness into this soul.

What type of entity do you know tries to do that, hmm?

And now you see the purpose of threads like these.

Yes, yes it does, because it is now obvious that you have completely missed the point. Meditation, religion etc. is about ARCHETYPES, not doctrine. If you can empathize with an ARCHETYPE (read: a scalar entity) then it doesn't matter if it's dancing, blue Shiva, chubby, cheery Buddha, or lovely lamb Christ of Nazareth. They are the same.

And you are clearly looking for followers. That's what doctrine is for.

I hate when people say others are "wrong', especially in matters of esoteric or spiritual origin. Don't allow your intensive propensity toward duality judge the ability of others who may have raised the spiritual awareness above it.

Kundalini awakening does not result in insanity. Insanity IS a failed awakening, that can be rectified through exorcism, or in other cases, psychiatric shamanism.

Pretty soon people like you won't be able to wield "insanity" as a memetic weapon to further attack the downtrodden and confused. So that you can seem all big and smart and put together.

Your interpretation of the Bible is wrong, wrong wrong and is exactly what the liars would like you to believe; those ones that literally sell religion to individuals seeking answers, the true scum o' the Earth.

Thoughts by being told by others? You sir have no clue as what I have been told, as now one actually told me or taught me anything.

Saving my demon, is bringing him up to the surface for healing, and repenting together, so I can move forward.

Trying to hard, how am I trying to hard? I just go with the flow, and what is given to me to learn about myself.

the lesson to be learned is about the truth of my true nature, which is given to me in small doses.

It's hard climb, but having faith in myself is having faith in God.

What I experience is as real as it gets for me, it was clearly a message to be learned, that we can't judge anything by it's cover, or our fears hold our greatest strength.

Hey! That's what I felt during my Awakening, I felt like I Gods powers. The high was intense, in that I felt like I could move mountains and open up portals.

I also thought I was in an energy bubble. In the bubble, the air was thin and bright. Outside of it, the air was dark, thick like molasses, and everything was in a waving motion.

This lasted about 30sec to a minute. After that my energy was sucked right out me, couldn't talk, cold and shivering, for about an hour.

Gobi Krishina aroused the Kundalini, in that it wasn't spontaneous.

When it's spontaneous, it's a gift from the divine, as I had no clue about meditation, and Kundalini, but thats just my thoughts.