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Disassemble All Nuclear Power Plants NOW!

 
krosty

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What are you going to replace nuclear with? Coal?
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Ya,no power until hippies come up with a way to generate electricity for us all...in the meantime, we can never fuel up again, withdraw money and we essentially eat each other. Believe it. Nuclear power is MUCH safer then your alternative reality sport.
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There's plenty of other energy production methods; geo-thermal, wind, hydro, ethanol, hydro-thermal, solar, etc. We just need to remove funding from war and all these entitlement programs to seriously research them.

5*'s and green karma for you OP!
 Quoting: InfiniteTopHat

Wind is not an option - there is no enough place for this on the Earth.
Hydro is not an option - there is no enough water resources, and no real profit - only regulated prices will save your wallet from hyrdo energy.
Hyrdo-thermal is not an option either - too few places for this.
Solar energy is bullshit - at the current status of technologies - you spend ~ same amount of energy to produce this solar batteries, that they would produce in lifetime.
 Quoting: Gaver


Do you think nuclear would have been viable
without trillions in tax-breaks and subsidies paid by
the tax-payer..? This is ongoing, as well..

How much is it going to cost to store and regulate
nuclear waste for the next thousand years or so..?

Hmm..?
 Quoting: Waterbug


No need to store. They can be used again already (at least in my country).
 Quoting: Gaver


Well... how about dealing with all of that shit your country dumped into the ocean...?
No need to store it... huh..?
Kirk

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12/26/2012 12:33 PM
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Try life without electricity and internet, first.
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current reactor technology will deplete all the world's uranium in 60 years and leave us with a huge mess.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
Kirk

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12/26/2012 12:36 PM
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Try life without electricity and internet, first.
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the technology is there for solar power, but they WANT us as slaves to gas, the supply chain, nuclear power.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21761661


sadly it isn't. What you do when the sun isn't shining is a real problem.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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12/26/2012 12:39 PM
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Our biggest problem is the government and like are making money hand over fist with these nuclear plants. They are very aware of what it can and is doing to our planet. They just simply don't care because they ARE EVIL. Spreading the truth will bless you more than your fears can handle. Let gods beautiful natural light shine through, it will quench thirsts world wide.
†~serenity~†
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12/26/2012 12:40 PM
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What are you going to replace nuclear with? Coal?
 Quoting: krosty


recirculalting warm urine
works like a charm in solar water heater
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12/26/2012 12:43 PM
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Any idea where to put the hundreds of thousands of ton extremely radioactive waste then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30881614


This would be the hardest part... Currently there is no method of altering radioactive half-life. This radioactive waste has such a long half-life that there isn't a feasible way for us to dispose of it in our lifetime sans jettisoning it into space. Which is an idea I'm kind of against, we don't know what we may piss off sending that stuff off into space or if it'll catch an orbit somewhere and return to fuck us down the road.

If this stuff causes so much trouble and is so hard to get rid of don't you agree it is pretty stupid we continue to extract and use it?
 Quoting: InfiniteTopHat


Yes there is. There is a fesible safer means of producing nuclear energy that doesn't produce nuclear waste but can actually use NUCLEAR WASTE as a fuel source. There is a working reactor that has been around since the 60's, the only downside is that you can't produce weapons grade material out of it, and thus, why it was never continued by governments around the world.
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12/26/2012 12:44 PM
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Try life without electricity and internet, first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


current reactor technology will deplete all the world's uranium in 60 years and leave us with a huge mess.
 Quoting: Kirk


as womem will deplete all the sperm in 90 years if nothing is done about climate change...same study?
Waterbug

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Ya,no power until hippies come up with a way to generate electricity for us all...in the meantime, we can never fuel up again, withdraw money and we essentially eat each other. Believe it. Nuclear power is MUCH safer then your alternative reality sport.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25952629


This hippy says you are deluded...
Here is a part of the legacy of nuclear..
Enjoy.

And, for our russian friend.. good job, bubba.
5 of the ten are in your part of the world...



10 Most Radioactive Places on Earth
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Anonymous Coward
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Re: Disassemble All Nuclear Power Plants NOW!
Ya,no power until hippies come up with a way to generate electricity for us all...in the meantime, we can never fuel up again, withdraw money and we essentially eat each other. Believe it. Nuclear power is MUCH safer then your alternative reality sport.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25952629


This hippy says you are deluded...
Here is a part of the legacy of nuclear..
Enjoy.

And, for our russian friend.. good job, bubba.
5 of the ten are in your part of the world...



10 Most Radioactive Places on Earth
[link to brainz.org]
 Quoting: Waterbug


Stop blaming nuclear energy as the problem and start blaming the governments who want nuclear weapons out of their reactors and want to kill people with them. Blaming nuclear energy is like blaming guns for killing people.

Yes there are safer means of producing nuclear energy, yes there is a convieniant way of dealing with nuclear waste and yes, we will see these reactors being used in the future since Bill Gates invested in quite a few and China is already building them.
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The bans on building new nuclear facilities is the problem, not the solution. We haven't build a new nuclear facility in a long time, but the technology for making new nuclear facilities has improved dramatically. The new designs are cheaper and safer to operate, while generating less waste. They also don't carry the chance of a meltdown like the ones we currently operate. But we are forbidden from building them the new designed ones. The old ones can't be shut down, because they won't be allowed to put up new, safer ones in their place.

Can't we all agree that existing nuclear plants be allowed to build a brand new (or several smaller) plants now, so that they can shut down the old plants that they have now when the new ones come on line?
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


bump
Waterbug

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Ya,no power until hippies come up with a way to generate electricity for us all...in the meantime, we can never fuel up again, withdraw money and we essentially eat each other. Believe it. Nuclear power is MUCH safer then your alternative reality sport.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25952629


This hippy says you are deluded...
Here is a part of the legacy of nuclear..
Enjoy.

And, for our russian friend.. good job, bubba.
5 of the ten are in your part of the world...



10 Most Radioactive Places on Earth
[link to brainz.org]
 Quoting: Waterbug


Stop blaming nuclear energy as the problem and start blaming the governments who want nuclear weapons out of their reactors and want to kill people with them. Blaming nuclear energy is like blaming guns for killing people.

Yes there are safer means of producing nuclear energy, yes there is a convieniant way of dealing with nuclear waste and yes, we will see these reactors being used in the future since Bill Gates invested in quite a few and China is already building them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


Who controls the technology, dipshit..

The .govs.
Anonymous Coward
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12/26/2012 01:05 PM
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Re: Disassemble All Nuclear Power Plants NOW!
Without nuclear energy we would be stripping our forests for wood and leveling mountains for coal. There is no alternative until cold fusion becomes a reality.

Solar and Wind would work, but our greedy corporations won't allow for that.
 Quoting: PokerFace


There is always an alternative and its the way of life our forefathers used to live before disasterous industrial revolution.
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12/26/2012 01:08 PM
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disassemble all nuclear power plants and pursue other kinds of energy.
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien

Oh an what do we use in the meantime retard derrrrr
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Thorium reactors!
 Quoting: Rowsdower


that!
Anonymous Coward
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12/26/2012 01:14 PM
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disassemble all nuclear power plants and pursue other kinds of energy. These power plants are ticking time bombs just waiting to destroy ourselves. Our children will ask why our generation were such fools....
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Nothing will replace it... What could replace it won't let us live the way we do... population would need to decline as well...
Anonymous Coward
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12/26/2012 01:19 PM
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Try life without electricity and internet, first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


current reactor technology will deplete all the world's uranium in 60 years and leave us with a huge mess.
 Quoting: Kirk


Probably won't even be any oil in 60 years (or less) - which will leave us with the biggest mess of mankind...
Anonymous Coward
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12/26/2012 01:21 PM
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Re: Disassemble All Nuclear Power Plants NOW!
Without nuclear energy we would be stripping our forests for wood and leveling mountains for coal. There is no alternative until cold fusion becomes a reality.

Solar and Wind would work, but our greedy corporations won't allow for that.
 Quoting: PokerFace


There is always an alternative and its the way of life our forefathers used to live before disasterous industrial revolution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30898235


Our forefathers didn't live with a global population over 7 billion people. Even back in the days, they regulated how much wood could be cut.
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Re: Disassemble All Nuclear Power Plants NOW!
Try life without electricity and internet, first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


no need to do that, just need to find safer ways to generate power. its stupid to have such a huge risk hanging over our heads
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Hanging? Hell, Millions are dying annually from Cancer caused by radioactive particulate in our bodies and food and houses and even in our drinking water.

The death rate from Cancer per capita has increased ten fold since 1899. It actually did that in less than a century because that ten fold increase was realized in 1990.

Everybody that we know has a brother or father or mother or sister who has or will catch cancer. Cancer was only seldom seen in the 1800's. Now it is everywhere.
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Re: Disassemble All Nuclear Power Plants NOW!
disassemble all nuclear power plants and pursue other kinds of energy. These power plants are ticking time bombs just waiting to destroy ourselves. Our children will ask why our generation were such fools....
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


Nothing will replace it... What could replace it won't let us live the way we do... population would need to decline as well...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30054494


Bullshit! We could meet all of our electric needs in the United States with just solar and Geothermal generated electricity.
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Re: Disassemble All Nuclear Power Plants NOW!
nuclear power currently provides the most reasonable power solution for an over growing grid, its sad but its true its logistics, coal cant power that much, hydro could have if the proper work had been put into it during earlier years, wind is a fanciful idea, the upkeep is ridiculous as well as noise pollution, so save fission reactors going full scale or the solar industry drastically dropping prices looks like we're stuck...i will say i do worry about its long term radioactivity effects...theres a reason those illuminated look on it is a dirty source of power
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Ya,no power until hippies come up with a way to generate electricity for us all...in the meantime, we can never fuel up again, withdraw money and we essentially eat each other. Believe it. Nuclear power is MUCH safer then your alternative reality sport.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25952629


This hippy says you are deluded...
Here is a part of the legacy of nuclear..
Enjoy.

And, for our russian friend.. good job, bubba.
5 of the ten are in your part of the world...



10 Most Radioactive Places on Earth
[link to brainz.org]
 Quoting: Waterbug


Stop blaming nuclear energy as the problem and start blaming the governments who want nuclear weapons out of their reactors and want to kill people with them. Blaming nuclear energy is like blaming guns for killing people.

Yes there are safer means of producing nuclear energy, yes there is a convieniant way of dealing with nuclear waste and yes, we will see these reactors being used in the future since Bill Gates invested in quite a few and China is already building them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


"Blaming nuclear energy is like blaming guns for killing people. "

Ill-designed booby traps we have discovered. Have you not?
I was pro nuk before Fuku....now take a relook on backup generators and foolproof power in our own country...that's the pools...now the reactors...fuku proves the cores can explode their contents country wide...this fact alone renders this design unsustainable (ha ha)...the only protection the industry against this is the lie that it was a hydrogen explosion that occurred in Unit 3...all evidence shows otherwise. Many of US reactors can blast their blessing countrywide....reassuring?
Ps- I can't stand whinny enviros but on this they were right
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Wherever you put it its a big surprise and the housing should cost less.
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Wherever you put it its a big surprise and the housing should cost less.
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What is the plan for such an action? (the transformation)
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I certainly agree

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Any idea where to put the hundreds of thousands of ton extremely radioactive waste then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30881614


Leave it where it is and concrete over it like they did with Chernobyl. What do they intend to do with it now anyway?
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Ya,no power until hippies come up with a way to generate electricity for us all...in the meantime, we can never fuel up again, withdraw money and we essentially eat each other. Believe it. Nuclear power is MUCH safer then your alternative reality sport.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25952629


This hippy says you are deluded...
Here is a part of the legacy of nuclear..
Enjoy.

And, for our russian friend.. good job, bubba.
5 of the ten are in your part of the world...



10 Most Radioactive Places on Earth
[link to brainz.org]
 Quoting: Waterbug


Stop blaming nuclear energy as the problem and start blaming the governments who want nuclear weapons out of their reactors and want to kill people with them. Blaming nuclear energy is like blaming guns for killing people.

Yes there are safer means of producing nuclear energy, yes there is a convieniant way of dealing with nuclear waste and yes, we will see these reactors being used in the future since Bill Gates invested in quite a few and China is already building them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24957083


"Blaming nuclear energy is like blaming guns for killing people. "

Ill-designed booby traps we have discovered. Have you not?
I was pro nuk before Fuku....now take a relook on backup generators and foolproof power in our own country...that's the pools...now the reactors...fuku proves the cores can explode their contents country wide...this fact alone renders this design unsustainable (ha ha)...the only protection the industry against this is the lie that it was a hydrogen explosion that occurred in Unit 3...all evidence shows otherwise. Many of US reactors can blast their blessing countrywide....reassuring?
Ps- I can't stand whinny enviros but on this they were right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30901294



Many of our nuclear plants are of the same design as those in Japan and cannot be considered stable.

As a transition, more clean coal generated electrical plants with effective coal scrubbers need to be built but Obama says he wants to get rid of all coal operations so "electricity will of necessity skyrocket" in order to FORCE us into nuclear plants or into still-unaffordable solar.

Personally I would love to have my whole house solar or geothermal, but the feds cancelled the IRS deduction for alternative energy for individuals. State subsidy only from a select few power companies; most for corporations or local governments.
"Do Not Go Gentle into that Good Night.....Rage, rage against the dying of the light"-----Dylan Thomas

HIS NAME IS SETH RICH

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Always remember that "for the greater good" will not include YOU.

"Who decides?"
---Robert A. Heinlein


-'Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech.'—Benjamin Franklin

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The only thing worth paying full retail for is pantyhose.

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Waterbug

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Any idea where to put the hundreds of thousands of ton extremely radioactive waste then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30881614


Leave it where it is and concrete over it like they did with Chernobyl. What do they intend to do with it now anyway?
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog


That did not work. They are having to do a new one, now, after only 25 years..

There is no current plan to deal with the existing waste.
More and more is stored next to reactors in SFPs, every day..
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Try life without electricity and internet, first.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26268975


no need to do that, just need to find safer ways to generate power. its stupid to have such a huge risk hanging over our heads
 Quoting: SnowboardingAlien


I work in the nuc field.

The standard for safety in a US plant is 1 to 10(7th power) chance of a catastrophic event happening during the plants life-cycle, from construction to decomisssioning.

The NRC are highly antagonistic as a watch dog and don't put up with unsafe and sloppy pratices.
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HA!





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