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A very thought out opinion on gun control.

 
Lemon

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12/26/2012 08:58 PM

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Hello everyone,

The other day, a friend of mine from New York stumbled upon a pro-gun article titled "An opinion on gun control."

Being from a Blue State, he naturally questioned why people (AKA guntards) defend guns as much as they do. We have had discussions before about guns, gun control, and possible legislation being pushed. I imagine this is what led him to do some searching for an understanding of the pro-gun community.

Note that this article is rather long; but it is very, very thought out. After finding and reading this article my friend came to me and stated that he understood why guns are defended, and admitted he believes to have switched opinions on guns and gun control.

Please read and share this, I feel this is very important.
Let me know what you think!

Note: No, I will not paraphrase for you. If you are too lazy to at least skim over the main points, you are merely hindering your own ability to aquire the knowledge... AKA Ignorant. This article is very informative, and I would encourage everyone regardless of "side" to obtain this information for themselves.


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 Quoting: CriticalThinking

OP - Great post. (& great name). A little more critical thinking around here is a good thing.
**I'm all out of bubblegum
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fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way
that billions of people can be managed.
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That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
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12/26/2012 09:01 PM
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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So says a neutered Queen worshiping cunt.
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fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way
that billions of people can be managed.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


What if genocide / eugenics is well underway, but we are so brainwashed and conditioned we don't notice?

What if Cancer, Heart ailments, and most respiratory illness are caused by bad food, bad water, and bad air? & we know it?
**I'm all out of bubblegum
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12/26/2012 09:03 PM
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That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


it's already started with abortion, assisted suicide
and gene therapy, etc.... and then it will be more
and more, until... it's eugenics.
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maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


it's already started with abortion, assisted suicide
and gene therapy, etc.... and then it will be more
and more, until... it's eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


Planned Parenthood was founded / started by "The American Eugenics Society"
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maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


it's already started with abortion, assisted suicide
and gene therapy, etc.... and then it will be more
and more, until... it's eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


i mean, pretty soon "assisted suicide" will be: they're going
to help you with your "suicide" by giving you a little push...

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Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come.

They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st.

Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away.
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fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way
that billions of people can be managed.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


true the eugenics movement is alive and well.
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12/26/2012 09:12 PM
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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Such a typical and astute observation by a Brit.

Lend lease you fuck.

Without us and our good graces lending you our "dicks" you would be bending over and taking it up your bum by your Nazi leaders just the way a good castrated Brit should.

Shut up and die.
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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is that because you don't have one? lolatu
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And cant own one!
I'm tired of waiting, somebody push the damn button already!

Please ignore the German flag, I am an American.

Keep your 72 virgins, give me one old biker chick.
Tars Tarkas, Jr.

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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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Guns saved my family twice. So take your amateur psychology bullshit and go fuck yourself, you worthless fucking Brit. No wonder the entire world has hated you all for thousands of years.
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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Guns saved my family twice. So take your amateur psychology bullshit and go fuck yourself, you worthless fucking Brit. No wonder the entire world has hated you all for thousands of years.
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I know a lot of people who have used guns to save there self & loved one, not 1 fired a shot!
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That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


This is the first time I have encountered someone who embraced the eugenics philosophy. I would be interested in your views on the subject and how you justify them being a human being yourself.
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maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


This is the first time I have encountered someone who embraced the eugenics philosophy. I would be interested in your views on the subject and how you justify them being a human being yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


In it's day eugenics was in like global warming - I know T Edison was into it, there were several others - the movement in the US actually sterilized over 30,000, in the 30's.

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maybe a little bit.

but, mostly eugenics.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


This is the first time I have encountered someone who embraced the eugenics philosophy. I would be interested in your views on the subject and how you justify them being a human being yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


generally Eugenic are measures that are put in place to
"help" humankind along in its evolutionary struggle.

and then, an inescapable corollary to that basic principle
is the idea of: improving humanity by controlled breeding,
breeding techniques, genetic engineering, doing away with
faulty individuals...

well, that's pretty-much it in a nutsheel.
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Here.. [link to www.cheaperthandirt.com] macgunfeedtroll
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12/26/2012 09:40 PM
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Hitler liked eugenics a lot.

but the "school" of Eugenics came about long before Hitler.

most prominently among social philosophers of the late 19th century.
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And you think thats acceptable?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972

eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


This is the first time I have encountered someone who embraced the eugenics philosophy. I would be interested in your views on the subject and how you justify them being a human being yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


generally Eugenic are measures that are put in place to
"help" humankind along in its evolutionary struggle.

and then, an inescapable corollary to that basic principle
is the idea of: improving humanity by controlled breeding,
breeding techniques, genetic engineering, doing away with
faulty individuals...

well, that's pretty-much it in a nutsheel.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


It reminds me of a guy who broached this subject some 80 years ago in Germany....a Master Race?
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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Coming from a pin dick Brit. Go fuck yourself slave.
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eugenics? yeh. i'm afraid so.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


This is the first time I have encountered someone who embraced the eugenics philosophy. I would be interested in your views on the subject and how you justify them being a human being yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


generally Eugenic are measures that are put in place to
"help" humankind along in its evolutionary struggle.

and then, an inescapable corollary to that basic principle
is the idea of: improving humanity by controlled breeding,
breeding techniques, genetic engineering, doing away with
faulty individuals...

well, that's pretty-much it in a nutsheel.
 Quoting: guncontrolltard2


It reminds me of a guy who broached this subject some 80 years ago in Germany....a Master Race?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26490972


well, taken to it's extreme, yes. that's what Hitler did with it.

The Big Question in Eugenics is: just who in the heck
is going to be making all of these horrendous decisions?

...very controversial topic, indeed.
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Logan's Run much??
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Damn nice read. It took me awhile but he is preaching to the choir (me). This I will use to redirect all people that are ignorant to get out into the informed.
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I'm pro eugenics. There are far too many people alive today who shouldn't be breeding, & lack of Eugenics is probably why we're as fucked today as we are.

People argue it's morally wrong, but if you look at nature, it has it's own eugenics methods. Humans were subject to this before pharmaceuticals & medicine practice took off.
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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Leave it to the TRULY stupid (like a UK tard) to ACTUALLY believe in this ridiculous old cliche'.
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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whatever
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Thanks for the bump guys, this stuff is important.

As for your replies, this only demonstrates the ignorance I mentioned in the original post.

Continue restricting your knowledge about the topic at hand, it will get you nowhere.

Learning about both sides of a debate will only help progress your own opinion.
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Libtards don't WANT both sides of any debate. They only want the illogical side.

To a liberal... Logic is like Kryptonite is, to Superman.
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Guns are nothing more than penis substitutes for the inadequate.
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whatever
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Thanks for the bump guys, this stuff is important.

As for your replies, this only demonstrates the ignorance I mentioned in the original post.

Continue restricting your knowledge about the topic at hand, it will get you nowhere.

Learning about both sides of a debate will only help progress your own opinion.
 Quoting: CriticalThinking


Libtards don't WANT both sides of any debate. They only want the illogical side.

To a liberal... Logic is like Kryptonite is, to Superman.
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If someone doesn't agree with your opinion, why do you call them a liberal? Also - your grammar needs working on. If you're going to be elitist, you may as well sound like one.

Guns are your culture. It's sad that random psychotics are ruining it for you all.
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I'm pro eugenics. There are far too many people alive today who shouldn't be breeding, & lack of Eugenics is probably why we're as fucked today as we are.

People argue it's morally wrong, but if you look at nature, it has it's own eugenics methods. Humans were subject to this before pharmaceuticals & medicine practice took off.
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the Georgia stone suggest a population of 1/2 billion! I keep thinking, what r they going 2 do w/all the bodies?
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I'm pro eugenics. There are far too many people alive today who shouldn't be breeding, & lack of Eugenics is probably why we're as fucked today as we are.

People argue it's morally wrong, but if you look at nature, it has it's own eugenics methods. Humans were subject to this before pharmaceuticals & medicine practice took off.
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From a personal point of view, I agree, some people should not be breeding. But that is my tounge in cheek opinion. I don't believe any other human being has the moral or ethical right to make these decisions for others.

But you are right. Human Beings are as much a part of nature as anything else and the right thing to do is allow nature to decide the outcomes. It is through man's arrogance that he places himself in the God position.

In my view pharmaceuticals & medicine are largely working against longevity. I thing better hygeine and water filtration has had more to do with increases in life expectancy than anything medicine as ever done.
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I'm pro eugenics. There are far too many people alive today who shouldn't be breeding, & lack of Eugenics is probably why we're as fucked today as we are.

People argue it's morally wrong, but if you look at nature, it has it's own eugenics methods. Humans were subject to this before pharmaceuticals & medicine practice took off.
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the Georgia stone suggest a population of 1/2 billion! I keep thinking, what r they going 2 do w/all the bodies?
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Sorry, that was me - I hadn't logged in.

I don't support the culling of 6.5 billion people, personally I think that's horrific. But I do believe that for the good of mankind, controls need to be put in place to prevent certain people from breeding.

To reduce the population to half a billion would take centuries, depending on how strict the benchmark for breeding is. But a program could be created to increase the requirements every few generations.

We could very well possibly breed out agressiveness, violence & crime if a proper program was put into place - the problem as I said - such a program would take forever to fulfil, & I doubt we could find a people good enough to look after the system without abusing it at some point.
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I appreciate a person that makes sence with the information they present.. The ideas that protection provides security goes all the way back to the stone age. When you find groups of people who cannot defend themselves you have subjgation.. It's a natural occurance to the defenceless. It is important for people to way the pro's and con's to any debate and then decide which solution is for the best of the community.. Personally I don't agree with gun control and feel that to impose it weakens our society.. If anyone should care to read more information on Gun control here is a link with further information on the subject..

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