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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28604765  United States12/26/2012 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.cnn.com] Thread: "The forgotten victims of gun violence" |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Folks, This Einstein guy has posted on every gun related thread that comes along. A total waste of time. He isn't interested in facts, even those published by the Government themselves. He is only here to call gun-owners names. This is what these people do when they cannot logically defend their position using facts, just like Morgan and all the rest. |
s. d. butler  User ID: 974819 United States12/26/2012 06:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello everyone, Quoting: CriticalThinking The other day, a friend of mine from New York stumbled upon a pro-gun article titled "An opinion on gun control." Being from a Blue State, he naturally questioned why people (AKA guntards) defend guns as much as they do. We have had discussions before about guns, gun control, and possible legislation being pushed. I imagine this is what led him to do some searching for an understanding of the pro-gun community. Note that this article is rather long; but it is very, very thought out. After finding and reading this article my friend came to me and stated that he understood why guns are defended, and admitted he believes to have switched opinions on guns and gun control. Please read and share this, I feel this is very important. Let me know what you think! Note: No, I will not paraphrase for you. If you are too lazy to at least skim over the main points, you are merely hindering your own ability to aquire the knowledge... AKA Ignorant. This article is very informative, and I would encourage everyone regardless of "side" to obtain this information for themselves. --------------- EDIT: Again, PLEASE SHARE THIS with everyone you can. --------------- LINK ----- [link to larrycorreia.wordpress.com] ----- I skimmed your article and disagree. Every other western country has strict gun bans, and in those countries gun homicides are nowhere near the level they are in the US. It is true that guns will always be obtainable through illegal avenues (And this is why pistols should remain legal as a means of self defense). However, banning most guns keeps many would-be shooters (those with no criminal history and no knowledge of how to obtain an illegal gun) teetering on the fence away from them. There seems to be a correlation betwern gun bans and low gun-related homicides. A crazy person is somebody who does the same thing over and over expecting different results. Throwing guns at gun violence ain't gonna solve it. And how do you explain this? Both South Africa and Great Britain have strict gun control. Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed. Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries. The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviou Read more: [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook Last Edited by s. d. butler on 12/26/2012 06:27 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello everyone, Quoting: CriticalThinking The other day, a friend of mine from New York stumbled upon a pro-gun article titled "An opinion on gun control." Being from a Blue State, he naturally questioned why people (AKA guntards) defend guns as much as they do. We have had discussions before about guns, gun control, and possible legislation being pushed. I imagine this is what led him to do some searching for an understanding of the pro-gun community. Note that this article is rather long; but it is very, very thought out. After finding and reading this article my friend came to me and stated that he understood why guns are defended, and admitted he believes to have switched opinions on guns and gun control. Please read and share this, I feel this is very important. Let me know what you think! Note: No, I will not paraphrase for you. If you are too lazy to at least skim over the main points, you are merely hindering your own ability to aquire the knowledge... AKA Ignorant. This article is very informative, and I would encourage everyone regardless of "side" to obtain this information for themselves. --------------- EDIT: Again, PLEASE SHARE THIS with everyone you can. --------------- LINK ----- [link to larrycorreia.wordpress.com] ----- I skimmed your article and disagree. Every other western country has strict gun bans, and in those countries gun homicides are nowhere near the level they are in the US. It is true that guns will always be obtainable through illegal avenues (And this is why pistols should remain legal as a means of self defense). However, banning most guns keeps many would-be shooters (those with no criminal history and no knowledge of how to obtain an illegal gun) teetering on the fence away from them. There seems to be a correlation betwern gun bans and low gun-related homicides. A crazy person is somebody who does the same thing over and over expecting different results. Throwing guns at gun violence ain't gonna solve it. The last time I checked, homocide victims had no opinion on the preferred weapon to be used to kill them. I'll be sure not to draw my weapon then, if I see someone pointing one at you. Won't solve anything. Guess you are just willing to die for the cause. What a trooper. |
| Copperhead User ID: 24964643 United States12/26/2012 06:39 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello everyone, Quoting: CriticalThinking The other day, a friend of mine from New York stumbled upon a pro-gun article titled "An opinion on gun control." Being from a Blue State, he naturally questioned why people (AKA guntards) defend guns as much as they do. We have had discussions before about guns, gun control, and possible legislation being pushed. I imagine this is what led him to do some searching for an understanding of the pro-gun community. Note that this article is rather long; but it is very, very thought out. After finding and reading this article my friend came to me and stated that he understood why guns are defended, and admitted he believes to have switched opinions on guns and gun control. Please read and share this, I feel this is very important. Let me know what you think! Note: No, I will not paraphrase for you. If you are too lazy to at least skim over the main points, you are merely hindering your own ability to aquire the knowledge... AKA Ignorant. This article is very informative, and I would encourage everyone regardless of "side" to obtain this information for themselves. --------------- EDIT: Again, PLEASE SHARE THIS with everyone you can. --------------- LINK ----- [link to larrycorreia.wordpress.com] ----- I skimmed your article and disagree. Every other western country has strict gun bans, and in those countries gun homicides are nowhere near the level they are in the US. It is true that guns will always be obtainable through illegal avenues (And this is why pistols should remain legal as a means of self defense). However, banning most guns keeps many would-be shooters (those with no criminal history and no knowledge of how to obtain an illegal gun) teetering on the fence away from them. There seems to be a correlation betwern gun bans and low gun-related homicides. A crazy person is somebody who does the same thing over and over expecting different results. Throwing guns at gun violence ain't gonna solve it. I skimmed your reply, and came away with this.... Every has countries near US. It be avenues legal However would-be knowledge an fence to be low crazy guns solve I think I might have been able to comprehend what you were trying to imply if I took the time to read your whole post, but I simply could not bother because my mind is made up. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30248208 United States12/26/2012 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Someone get him a rape whistle! He's scared of big bad guns |
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| Prof. Einstein User ID: 30653248 United States12/26/2012 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Folks, This Einstein guy has posted on every gun related thread that comes along. A total waste of time. He isn't interested in facts, even those published by the Government themselves. He is only here to call gun-owners names. This is what these people do when they cannot logically defend their position using facts, just like Morgan and all the rest.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30248208 United States12/26/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Folks, This Einstein guy has posted on every gun related thread that comes along. A total waste of time. He isn't interested in facts, even those published by the Government themselves. He is only here to call gun-owners names. This is what these people do when they cannot logically defend their position using facts, just like Morgan and all the rest. More fact filled argument from Einstein |
| Evil_Twin User ID: 23761243 United States12/26/2012 07:41 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States12/26/2012 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. That's what happens when you hand out free stuff to 47% of the population. They'd rather have the free stuff than liberty and freedom. What a sad finality to a once great nation. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1012969 United States12/26/2012 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fools The weak Cowards Retarded basically, everyone who should have no say in these matters. Especially seeing they haven't a clue why and how America came to be, and must remain as it is.... minus the corrupt of course. Leave these matters for REAL men. All women, retards, and sunflowers need not comment. Blow |
| guncontrolltard2 User ID: 30653248 United States12/26/2012 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way that billions of people can be managed. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does anyone have any thoughts? Or am I the only one impressed with the article? everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way that billions of people can be managed. That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 8397139 United States12/26/2012 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I skimmed your article and disagree. Quoting: kamalayka Every other western country has strict gun bans, and in those countries gun homicides are nowhere near the level they are in the US. It is true that guns will always be obtainable through illegal avenues (And this is why pistols should remain legal as a means of self defense). However, banning most guns keeps many would-be shooters (those with no criminal history and no knowledge of how to obtain an illegal gun) teetering on the fence away from them. There seems to be a correlation betwern gun bans and low gun-related homicides. A crazy person is somebody who does the same thing over and over expecting different results. Throwing guns at gun violence ain't gonna solve it. Tell that to the Jews living in Nazi Germany, and that's only for starters, dumbass. [link to www.scaruffi.com] |
| SuperManny User ID: 28757336 United States12/26/2012 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First of all, it's not even about guns in particular, so much as it's about tightening the controls with the continual erosion of individual liberties and freedom. Primarily it's about dividing the population. United we stand, divided we fall. If you guys only understood how much easier it is to control a divided population, you would stop playing their games. It doesn't even matter if guns get banned! I mean really banned; nobody get to use them... not the police, not the military... nobody! Anything else just plays right into their plans of dividing and controlling. The greatest gift you can give anyone is the example of your own life working. -Orin |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30054494 United States12/26/2012 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello everyone, Quoting: CriticalThinking The other day, a friend of mine from New York stumbled upon a pro-gun article titled "An opinion on gun control." Being from a Blue State, he naturally questioned why people (AKA guntards) defend guns as much as they do. We have had discussions before about guns, gun control, and possible legislation being pushed. I imagine this is what led him to do some searching for an understanding of the pro-gun community. Note that this article is rather long; but it is very, very thought out. After finding and reading this article my friend came to me and stated that he understood why guns are defended, and admitted he believes to have switched opinions on guns and gun control. Please read and share this, I feel this is very important. Let me know what you think! Note: No, I will not paraphrase for you. If you are too lazy to at least skim over the main points, you are merely hindering your own ability to aquire the knowledge... AKA Ignorant. This article is very informative, and I would encourage everyone regardless of "side" to obtain this information for themselves. --------------- EDIT: Again, PLEASE SHARE THIS with everyone you can. --------------- LINK ----- [link to larrycorreia.wordpress.com] ----- I skimmed your article and disagree. Every other western country has strict gun bans, and in those countries gun homicides are nowhere near the level they are in the US. It is true that guns will always be obtainable through illegal avenues (And this is why pistols should remain legal as a means of self defense). However, banning most guns keeps many would-be shooters (those with no criminal history and no knowledge of how to obtain an illegal gun) teetering on the fence away from them. There seems to be a correlation betwern gun bans and low gun-related homicides. A crazy person is somebody who does the same thing over and over expecting different results. Throwing guns at gun violence ain't gonna solve it. Absolutely wrong. The states with the strictest gun control have the highest murder rates. You can't compare the US to other countries ... we are on the border of the most violent drug trade in the world. Mexico has some the strictest guns laws - & is the most dangerous country in the world. ...end drug prohibition, & murder rate will go down. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like everywhere else, you guys are totally missing the point about what's going on here... *sigh* Quoting: SuperManny First of all, it's not even about guns in particular, so much as it's about tightening the controls with the continual erosion of individual liberties and freedom. Primarily it's about dividing the population. United we stand, divided we fall. If you guys only understood how much easier it is to control a divided population, you would stop playing their games. It doesn't even matter if guns get banned! I mean really banned; nobody get to use them... not the police, not the military... nobody! Anything else just plays right into their plans of dividing and controlling. It's already too late. The welfare state has already divided the population. Now they are working to turn gun owners against the government using 20 murdered children as pawns in their game. In doing so, they will try to convince the brain-dead balance of the population into believing that private gun ownership is the cause of all the sorrows. There is no way to "unite" until everyone realizes who the opposition really is and nobody wants to address that because its too hard and too dangerous. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30054494 United States12/26/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like everywhere else, you guys are totally missing the point about what's going on here... *sigh* Quoting: SuperManny First of all, it's not even about guns in particular, so much as it's about tightening the controls with the continual erosion of individual liberties and freedom. Primarily it's about dividing the population. United we stand, divided we fall. If you guys only understood how much easier it is to control a divided population, you would stop playing their games. It doesn't even matter if guns get banned! I mean really banned; nobody get to use them... not the police, not the military... nobody! Anything else just plays right into their plans of dividing and controlling. The biggest thing that divides people - Religion. |
| TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States12/26/2012 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Prof. Einstein everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way that billions of people can be managed. That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future. that's a scary thought. Unfortunately there r signs that some bad shit is coming. Some say we r in per NAZI Germany ATT. Just as long as they don't cancel the NFL playoffs! |
| Lemon User ID: 5766356 United States12/26/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TTX8K82 Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way that billions of people can be managed. That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future. that's a scary thought. Unfortunately there r signs that some bad shit is coming. Some say we r in per NAZI Germany ATT. Just as long as they don't cancel the NFL playoffs! Freedom & Independence creates some disadvantaged yields Socialism & Communism creates dependency & large government yields Fascism & Military Dictatorship creates rebels & yields Freedom & Independence. Rinse & Repeat. **I'm all out of bubblegum |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like everywhere else, you guys are totally missing the point about what's going on here... *sigh* Quoting: SuperManny First of all, it's not even about guns in particular, so much as it's about tightening the controls with the continual erosion of individual liberties and freedom. Primarily it's about dividing the population. United we stand, divided we fall. If you guys only understood how much easier it is to control a divided population, you would stop playing their games. It doesn't even matter if guns get banned! I mean really banned; nobody get to use them... not the police, not the military... nobody! Anything else just plays right into their plans of dividing and controlling. The biggest thing that divides people - Religion. You know, I hear that a lot, but I don't buy it. Faith is a personal matter between you and your God, if you choose to have one. The problem people have with following someone like Jesus Christ is that they "think" it imposes rules on you and people don't want to follow rules. Jesus Christ and Christianity imposes nothing, but only teaches the principles required to lead a joyful and fullfilling life. It's "Christians" who have warped the message and turned it into an indictment on others. I'd be pissed off too. That happens in every faith, but it's not the message, it's people. That's why I seek and choose to live by certain principles that are consistant with the message.I don't really give a shit if other Christians or anybody else approves or not. What you do is none of my business, but the world would be much better off if they lived by something instead of the free for all we have now. Things are spiraling out of control morally and socially worldwide. Human nature has never changed in thousands of years, but what we have chosen to believe here recently has changed and I think we are seeing the result. Just my 2 cents from the cheap seats. |
| guncontrolltard2 User ID: 30653248 United States12/26/2012 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Prof. Einstein everyone already knows that all of you right wing inbred hillbilly white supremist guntards are going to have all yer guns taken away from you, so, there's nothing left to say. Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way that billions of people can be managed. That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future. maybe a little bit. but, mostly eugenics. |
| Lemon User ID: 5766356 United States12/26/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like everywhere else, you guys are totally missing the point about what's going on here... *sigh* Quoting: SuperManny First of all, it's not even about guns in particular, so much as it's about tightening the controls with the continual erosion of individual liberties and freedom. Primarily it's about dividing the population. United we stand, divided we fall. If you guys only understood how much easier it is to control a divided population, you would stop playing their games. It doesn't even matter if guns get banned! I mean really banned; nobody get to use them... not the police, not the military... nobody! Anything else just plays right into their plans of dividing and controlling. The biggest thing that divides people - Religion. You know, I hear that a lot, but I don't buy it. Faith is a personal matter between you and your God, if you choose to have one. The problem people have with following someone like Jesus Christ is that they "think" it imposes rules on you and people don't want to follow rules. Jesus Christ and Christianity imposes nothing, but only teaches the principles required to lead a joyful and fullfilling life. It's "Christians" who have warped the message and turned it into an indictment on others. I'd be pissed off too. That happens in every faith, but it's not the message, it's people. That's why I seek and choose to live by certain principles that are consistant with the message.I don't really give a shit if other Christians or anybody else approves or not. What you do is none of my business, but the world would be much better off if they lived by something instead of the free for all we have now. Things are spiraling out of control morally and socially worldwide. Human nature has never changed in thousands of years, but what we have chosen to believe here recently has changed and I think we are seeing the result. Just my 2 cents from the cheap seats. Faith : Man's spiritual journey & personal experience of God. Religion: Men controlling men based on books written by men to create power and authority over men. These two words have very different meanings. **I'm all out of bubblegum |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26490972 United States12/26/2012 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TTX8K82 Yes, they r going 2 try & maybe b successful. After all u no longer have a 4th, people have tried & failed 2 sue the TSA & other government agencies, so much 4 the 7th. Read the NDAA or the patriot act & u will find many more gone & much more 2 come. They r trying 2 get a internet kill switch, that would b the 1st. Not counting several article's ignored by our leaders. I find it amazing that so many want 2 c there rights go away. fascism is the wave of the future. it's the only way that billions of people can be managed. That, my freind, is a terrifying world view. If you are right then genocide is in our future. maybe a little bit. but, mostly eugenics. And you think thats acceptable? |
