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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
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Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
There is only one kind of freedom and that's individual liberty. Our lives come from our creator and our liberty comes from our creator. It has nothing to do with government granting it.
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The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
-Pslam 14
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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
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Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
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what does verse 5 mean then ??
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The Two Witnesses

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Zec 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

Hag 1:13 Then spake Haggai the LORD'S messenger in the LORD'S message unto the people, saying, I am with you, saith the LORD.
Hag 1:14 And the LORD stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the LORD of hosts, their God,
Hag 2:2 Speak now to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and to the residue of the people, saying,
Hag 2:3 Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? and how do ye see it now? is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?
Hag 2:4 Yet now be strong, O Zerubbabel, saith the LORD; and be strong, O Joshua, son of Josedech, the high priest; and be strong, all ye people of the land, saith the LORD, and work: for I am with you, saith the LORD of hosts:
Zec 3:6 And the angel of the LORD protested unto Joshua, saying,
Zec 3:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.
Zec 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.
Zec 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Zec 3:10 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.
Zec 4:8 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Zec 4:9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.
Zec 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, (the plummet, plumbline, in the hand of Zerubbabel) and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Zec 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
Zec 4:13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Joshua and Zerubabel were the ensample for our admonition (1 Cor 10) of the royal priesthood, the 2 witnesses. Joshua was the priest, Zeubabel was the governor in line to be king, of the line of David and points us to the coming King. Joshua and Zerubabel lead Israel out of Babylon, also a type and shadow of the call of the two witnesses, the royal priesthood today. Now spiritual, Babylon represents being caught in the snare (Luke 21) of deception. The 2 witnesses, the royal priesthood wander to and fro, as the 7 eyes of the Lord looking for those who's heart is perfect towards God and call those to follow them to Zion

Rev_1:6 And hath made us kings and priests (The Two Witnesses) unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

2Ch_16:9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
Zec 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Jer 50:5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
Jer 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire (the word of God, the truth) proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

The Beast out of the bottomless pit is the whore, her false doctrine spiritually kills them for a time.

Rev 11:8 And their (spiritually) dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,(Mystery Babylon) which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (key word here is also, the same thing that happened to our Lord happens to the 2 witnesses, spiritually)
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, (our identifying with Christs death) and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth ( the unregenerate body of professing Christians, still focused on flesh, the earth) shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

This is why every remnant believer who wakes up, when the man of sin, the son of perdition is revealed to him, scares the heck out of everyone.
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Re: two witnesses
the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
 Quoting: wind rider


Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
what does verse 5 mean then ??
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Jesus said that was John the Baptist. I believe Him.
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The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
-Pslam 14
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The Two Witnesses

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Zec 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

Hag 1:13 Then spake Haggai the LORD'S messenger in the LORD'S message unto the people, saying, I am with you, saith the LORD.
Hag 1:14 And the LORD stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the LORD of hosts, their God,
Hag 2:2 Speak now to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and to the residue of the people, saying,
Hag 2:3 Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? and how do ye see it now? is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?
Hag 2:4 Yet now be strong, O Zerubbabel, saith the LORD; and be strong, O Joshua, son of Josedech, the high priest; and be strong, all ye people of the land, saith the LORD, and work: for I am with you, saith the LORD of hosts:
Zec 3:6 And the angel of the LORD protested unto Joshua, saying,
Zec 3:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.
Zec 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.
Zec 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Zec 3:10 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.
Zec 4:8 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Zec 4:9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.
Zec 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, (the plummet, plumbline, in the hand of Zerubbabel) and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Zec 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
Zec 4:13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Joshua and Zerubabel were the ensample for our admonition (1 Cor 10) of the royal priesthood, the 2 witnesses. Joshua was the priest, Zeubabel was the governor in line to be king, of the line of David and points us to the coming King. Joshua and Zerubabel lead Israel out of Babylon, also a type and shadow of the call of the two witnesses, the royal priesthood today. Now spiritual, Babylon represents being caught in the snare (Luke 21) of deception. The 2 witnesses, the royal priesthood wander to and fro, as the 7 eyes of the Lord looking for those who's heart is perfect towards God and call those to follow them to Zion

Rev_1:6 And hath made us kings and priests (The Two Witnesses) unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

2Ch_16:9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
Zec 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Jer 50:5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
Jer 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire (the word of God, the truth) proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

The Beast out of the bottomless pit is the whore, her false doctrine spiritually kills them for a time.

Rev 11:8 And their (spiritually) dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,(Mystery Babylon) which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (key word here is also, the same thing that happened to our Lord happens to the 2 witnesses, spiritually)
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, (our identifying with Christs death) and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth ( the unregenerate body of professing Christians, still focused on flesh, the earth) shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

This is why every remnant believer who wakes up, when the man of sin, the son of perdition is revealed to him, scares the heck out of everyone.
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The man of sin has been revealed. It is roman catholicism! The same evil whore that invented the silly interpretation of revelation that you are ascribing to called futurism. I used to be one believe me I know....historicism is the answer you are seeking. And
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2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
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The Two Witnesses

Rev 11:3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
Rev 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

Zec 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?

Hag 1:13 Then spake Haggai the LORD'S messenger in the LORD'S message unto the people, saying, I am with you, saith the LORD.
Hag 1:14 And the LORD stirred up the spirit of Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and the spirit of Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and the spirit of all the remnant of the people; and they came and did work in the house of the LORD of hosts, their God,
Hag 2:2 Speak now to Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, governor of Judah, and to Joshua the son of Josedech, the high priest, and to the residue of the people, saying,
Hag 2:3 Who is left among you that saw this house in her first glory? and how do ye see it now? is it not in your eyes in comparison of it as nothing?
Hag 2:4 Yet now be strong, O Zerubbabel, saith the LORD; and be strong, O Joshua, son of Josedech, the high priest; and be strong, all ye people of the land, saith the LORD, and work: for I am with you, saith the LORD of hosts:
Zec 3:6 And the angel of the LORD protested unto Joshua, saying,
Zec 3:7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.
Zec 3:8 Hear now, O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH.
Zec 3:9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the LORD of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one day.
Zec 3:10 In that day, saith the LORD of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.
Zec 4:8 Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
Zec 4:9 The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you.
Zec 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Rev 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, (the plummet, plumbline, in the hand of Zerubbabel) and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Zec 4:11 Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
Zec 4:13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

Joshua and Zerubabel were the ensample for our admonition (1 Cor 10) of the royal priesthood, the 2 witnesses. Joshua was the priest, Zeubabel was the governor in line to be king, of the line of David and points us to the coming King. Joshua and Zerubabel lead Israel out of Babylon, also a type and shadow of the call of the two witnesses, the royal priesthood today. Now spiritual, Babylon represents being caught in the snare (Luke 21) of deception. The 2 witnesses, the royal priesthood wander to and fro, as the 7 eyes of the Lord looking for those who's heart is perfect towards God and call those to follow them to Zion

Rev_1:6 And hath made us kings and priests (The Two Witnesses) unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
Rev_5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

2Ch_16:9 For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him. Herein thou hast done foolishly: therefore from henceforth thou shalt have wars.
Zec 4:10 For who hath despised the day of small things? for they shall rejoice, and shall see the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel with those seven; they are the eyes of the LORD, which run to and fro through the whole earth.

Jer 50:5 They shall ask the way to Zion with their faces thitherward, saying, Come, and let us join ourselves to the LORD in a perpetual covenant that shall not be forgotten.
Jer 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

Rev 11:5 And if any man will hurt them, fire (the word of God, the truth) proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
Rev 11:6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
Rev 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

The Beast out of the bottomless pit is the whore, her false doctrine spiritually kills them for a time.

Rev 11:8 And their (spiritually) dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,(Mystery Babylon) which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. (key word here is also, the same thing that happened to our Lord happens to the 2 witnesses, spiritually)
Rev 11:9 And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, (our identifying with Christs death) and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth ( the unregenerate body of professing Christians, still focused on flesh, the earth) shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth.
Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

This is why every remnant believer who wakes up, when the man of sin, the son of perdition is revealed to him, scares the heck out of everyone.
 Quoting: Out of Her 29868915


The man of sin has been revealed. It is roman catholicism! The same evil whore that invented the silly interpretation of revelation that you are ascribing to called futurism. I used to be one believe me I know....historicism is the answer you are seeking. And
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The man of sin is not the Catholic Church. There are those there that will support the emergence of the man of perdition, but the rank and file per se do not have the minds, hearts and inclination to follow the despicable beast.
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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
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Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
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.
.
.
what does verse 5 mean then ??
 Quoting: paul 30886069


Jesus said that was John the Baptist. I believe Him.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Jesus did indeed say that John the Baptist was Elijah, even though John, himself, said that he was not. What was implied by those asking him if he was Elijah, John said no because what they were actually asking was "are you the REINCARNATION of Elijah". The Sadducees and the Pharisees had different views on resurrection and reincarnation. John was NOT messiah, and he was NOT the reincarnation of Elijah. But, he had come in the spirit of Elijah. By the same token, verse 5 alludes to those in the last days who will also come in the spirit of Elijah--the very same spirit that allowed John and Elijah both to challenge the powers of their day and make plain a path for the Lord. Zerubbabel is also the "antitype" of the Zerubbabel who was sent from Babylon to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. In the last day, the Temple which Zerubbabel is sent to rebuild is a temple of LIVING STONES. He is, as the name is defined in the Concordance an "offspring of Babylon", just as we who will finish this work are called the offspring of Babylon for the whole world is now Babylon--but especially Mystery Babylon and physical Babylon representing Papal Rome and its "image" to that beast--America the new Rome which was once a lamblike nation with two horns (Republic and Protestant) which is now speaking like the former beast and seeking a church/state with all-encompassing power like Rome did during the dark ages where up to 100 million souls were murdered for their faith. With the current passage of new laws designed for "domestic terrorists", America has sealed its doom and will lead to national ruin--just as Israel did by killing Messiah. The False Prophet is Paganism that runs through all of the powers which will persecute and seek to kill God's people.

A definite shift has ocurred and many are feeling the change. The "little time of trouble" is upon us. It is also called a time of refreshing and "the acceptable year of the Lord". What follows is the Time of Trouble that the world has never experienced in its history. Not just Nation against Nation, but also "kingdom against kingdom" just as we are seeing with the ethnicity wars going on throughout the world--spurring a need to send troops all over Africa to prevent that from happening there. It will fail, or it may even be SPECIFICALLY arranged for their own brand of ethnic warfare which is entrenched already. It is upon us and we must wake up. We are Laodicea--all of us--and we have been lulled asleep and become lukewarm. According to the parable, half of us are sleeping virgins. The other half is trimming their lamps, preparing for the coming of the "Bridegroom".
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Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
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.
.
.
.
.
.
what does verse 5 mean then ??
 Quoting: paul 30886069


Jesus said that was John the Baptist. I believe Him.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Jesus did indeed say that John the Baptist was Elijah, even though John, himself, said that he was not. What was implied by those asking him if he was Elijah, John said no because what they were actually asking was "are you the REINCARNATION of Elijah". The Sadducees and the Pharisees had different views on resurrection and reincarnation. John was NOT messiah, and he was NOT the reincarnation of Elijah. But, he had come in the spirit of Elijah. By the same token, verse 5 alludes to those in the last days who will also come in the spirit of Elijah--the very same spirit that allowed John and Elijah both to challenge the powers of their day and make plain a path for the Lord. Zerubbabel is also the "antitype" of the Zerubbabel who was sent from Babylon to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. In the last day, the Temple which Zerubbabel is sent to rebuild is a temple of LIVING STONES. He is, as the name is defined in the Concordance an "offspring of Babylon", just as we who will finish this work are called the offspring of Babylon for the whole world is now Babylon--but especially Mystery Babylon and physical Babylon representing Papal Rome and its "image" to that beast--America the new Rome which was once a lamblike nation with two horns (Republic and Protestant) which is now speaking like the former beast and seeking a church/state with all-encompassing power like Rome did during the dark ages where up to 100 million souls were murdered for their faith. With the current passage of new laws designed for "domestic terrorists", America has sealed its doom and will lead to national ruin--just as Israel did by killing Messiah. The False Prophet is Paganism that runs through all of the powers which will persecute and seek to kill God's people.

A definite shift has ocurred and many are feeling the change. The "little time of trouble" is upon us. It is also called a time of refreshing and "the acceptable year of the Lord". What follows is the Time of Trouble that the world has never experienced in its history. Not just Nation against Nation, but also "kingdom against kingdom" just as we are seeing with the ethnicity wars going on throughout the world--spurring a need to send troops all over Africa to prevent that from happening there. It will fail, or it may even be SPECIFICALLY arranged for their own brand of ethnic warfare which is entrenched already. It is upon us and we must wake up. We are Laodicea--all of us--and we have been lulled asleep and become lukewarm. According to the parable, half of us are sleeping virgins. The other half is trimming their lamps, preparing for the coming of the "Bridegroom".
 Quoting: Zerubbabel


To think that America is Babylon is so...well American haha. We are not the center of Gods plan, we are just another Empire that rose and is now declining. Our fall might seem like the end, but so did the end of every other empire.
Jesus did not say He would send 2 Elijah the prophets. He sent one
Like he promised. It was John the Baptist. I am sorry if you disagree but it is clear and you are trying to make the Bible say what you believ, instead of believing what it plainly teaches. John left those wicked men in their ignorance. You think "well you see Pharisees what I am is Elijah the prophet in a spiritual way, not literally like you are lookin for" would have changed their minds? No, that was the most wicked, vile and untoward generation the world has ever seen. They crucified the LORD of glory! No, John left them in their ignorance "casting not his pearls to swine"...
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The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
-Pslam 14
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The Son of Man goeth, as it is written of him, but woe unto that man by who he is betrayed; it would be better if that man was never born. Declaring the end from the beginning. Not to too many people of a difficult speech and a hard language, surly, if I had sent you unto them, they would have hearkened...
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The Son of Man goeth, as it is written of him, but woe unto that man by who he is betrayed; it would be better if that man was never born. Declaring the end from the beginning. Not to too many people of a difficult speech and a hard language, surly, if I had sent you unto them, they would have hearkened...
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There are those of darkness who think they have destroyed God and his Son. In 1966 Time magazine was as bold as to question "Is God dead?" The bohemian grove crowd does not conduct a culmination ceremony with the burning of an effigy of man as a joke. It is to symbolize their efforts of the destruction of the image of God through pollution, chemtrails, false flag wars, abortion, etc. This is to usher in the eternally corrupted form known as the beast. It is done in a county named sonoma which means "valley of the moon.' The name like many things in spiritual battle result in hacked or reversed words for darkness. Hence, you have Son of Man turning into sonoma.

Truly it is better that these people of betrayal were not born.
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The Son of Man goeth, as it is written of him, but woe unto that man by who he is betrayed; it would be better if that man was never born. Declaring the end from the beginning. Not to too many people of a difficult speech and a hard language, surly, if I had sent you unto them, they would have hearkened...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30947202


There are those of darkness who think they have destroyed God and his Son. In 1966 Time magazine was as bold as to question "Is God dead?" The bohemian grove crowd does not conduct a culmination ceremony with the burning of an effigy of man as a joke. It is to symbolize their efforts of the destruction of the image of God through pollution, chemtrails, false flag wars, abortion, etc. This is to usher in the eternally corrupted form known as the beast. It is done in a county named sonoma which means "valley of the moon.' The name like many things in spiritual battle result in hacked or reversed words for darkness. Hence, you have Son of Man turning into sonoma.

Truly it is better that these people of betrayal were not born.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Is He the God of the mountains, Yea, and God of the valleys. The Sonoma Valley produces the old wine, the New Wine is being poured into the new vessels, so, that both are preserved. Straight~with the New is better. Is that Shiloh , I see coming, from the sheepfold of Bozrah? The sword is furbished, Watchman Watchman what of the night?
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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
 Quoting: wind rider


Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
what does verse 5 mean then ??
 Quoting: paul 30886069


Jesus said that was John the Baptist. I believe Him.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


could u show me the scripture that states this ty
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Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
what does verse 5 mean then ??
 Quoting: paul 30886069


Jesus said that was John the Baptist. I believe Him.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Jesus did indeed say that John the Baptist was Elijah, even though John, himself, said that he was not. What was implied by those asking him if he was Elijah, John said no because what they were actually asking was "are you the REINCARNATION of Elijah". The Sadducees and the Pharisees had different views on resurrection and reincarnation. John was NOT messiah, and he was NOT the reincarnation of Elijah. But, he had come in the spirit of Elijah. By the same token, verse 5 alludes to those in the last days who will also come in the spirit of Elijah--the very same spirit that allowed John and Elijah both to challenge the powers of their day and make plain a path for the Lord. Zerubbabel is also the "antitype" of the Zerubbabel who was sent from Babylon to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem. In the last day, the Temple which Zerubbabel is sent to rebuild is a temple of LIVING STONES. He is, as the name is defined in the Concordance an "offspring of Babylon", just as we who will finish this work are called the offspring of Babylon for the whole world is now Babylon--but especially Mystery Babylon and physical Babylon representing Papal Rome and its "image" to that beast--America the new Rome which was once a lamblike nation with two horns (Republic and Protestant) which is now speaking like the former beast and seeking a church/state with all-encompassing power like Rome did during the dark ages where up to 100 million souls were murdered for their faith. With the current passage of new laws designed for "domestic terrorists", America has sealed its doom and will lead to national ruin--just as Israel did by killing Messiah. The False Prophet is Paganism that runs through all of the powers which will persecute and seek to kill God's people.

A definite shift has ocurred and many are feeling the change. The "little time of trouble" is upon us. It is also called a time of refreshing and "the acceptable year of the Lord". What follows is the Time of Trouble that the world has never experienced in its history. Not just Nation against Nation, but also "kingdom against kingdom" just as we are seeing with the ethnicity wars going on throughout the world--spurring a need to send troops all over Africa to prevent that from happening there. It will fail, or it may even be SPECIFICALLY arranged for their own brand of ethnic warfare which is entrenched already. It is upon us and we must wake up. We are Laodicea--all of us--and we have been lulled asleep and become lukewarm. According to the parable, half of us are sleeping virgins. The other half is trimming their lamps, preparing for the coming of the "Bridegroom".
 Quoting: Zerubbabel


Babylon = whole world today
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It does not. What it does say has been jotted and tittled.

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Wow that is very hard to read. I think the 2 witnesses are the Old and New Testaments. Read the passage with discernment.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
what does verse 5 mean then ??
 Quoting: paul 30886069


Jesus said that was John the Baptist. I believe Him.
 Quoting: UnmannedAerialPilot


could u show me the scripture that states this ty
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Sure Paul:
Luke 1.17, Matthew 11.13-14, Matthew 17.11-13
You see the Pharisees had a real problem of seeking PHYSICAL fulfillments of things that were to be taken SPIRITUALLY! Like the coming of the Messiah wasn't about overthrowing Rome, and the eating of flesh and drinking of blood weren't literal, etc. Jesus warned them several times and Paul also, that to be carnally minded is death. To be spiritually minded however, is eternal life! Do not fall for the carnal, futuristic, PHYSICAL interpretation that makes God a liar and snatches the 70th week of Daniel from the LORD of Glory Jesus Christ and gives it to some fictitious devil-indwelt man that is found nowhere in Scripture. John the Baptist was Elijah the prophet. He came to turn Israel's hearts back to God and prepare the way of the LORD by making his paths straight. Just like the Bible predicted he would, hundreds of years beforehand!
There is only one kind of freedom and that's individual liberty. Our lives come from our creator and our liberty comes from our creator. It has nothing to do with government granting it.
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The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
2 The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
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Red Words don't Lie.
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The Son of Man goeth, as it is written of him, but woe unto that man by who he is betrayed; it would be better if that man was never born. Declaring the end from the beginning. Not to too many people of a difficult speech and a hard language, surly, if I had sent you unto them, they would have hearkened...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30947202


There are those of darkness who think they have destroyed God and his Son. In 1966 Time magazine was as bold as to question "Is God dead?" The bohemian grove crowd does not conduct a culmination ceremony with the burning of an effigy of man as a joke. It is to symbolize their efforts of the destruction of the image of God through pollution, chemtrails, false flag wars, abortion, etc. This is to usher in the eternally corrupted form known as the beast. It is done in a county named sonoma which means "valley of the moon.' The name like many things in spiritual battle result in hacked or reversed words for darkness. Hence, you have Son of Man turning into sonoma.

Truly it is better that these people of betrayal were not born.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Is He the God of the mountains, Yea, and God of the valleys. The Sonoma Valley produces the old wine, the New Wine is being poured into the new vessels, so, that both are preserved. Straight~with the New is better. Is that Shiloh , I see coming, from the sheepfold of Bozrah? The sword is furbished, Watchman Watchman what of the night?
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The flock is waking up. My awakening occurred 02 Jan 93 with a loud rush. The Lord's Prayer says "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." Much is in place and the Kingdom is amidst you. Those that have eyes and ears should see it.

The feathered serpent failed to return on 23 Dec 12 as the cursed mayans predicted. The darkness lost and the true Alpha and Omega of this time is Jesus Christ. His Father knows the hour and the day, and the returning of the Son of Man is at hand. The curse on light will close as our Father said this time would return to as the times of the flood when the curse on water took place.

The elect are being awakened with a multitude to follow. The graft of the seed nation Israel is the US. It is immersed in the mystery babylon curse. I have alot to say if people will listen. Our Father said our God desires to be worshipped in spirit and truth. Pray for your name in the Book of Life and thank him for it now, that you may see the truth and not be in the confusion and deception of the spirit of the antichrist. It was our God that said he would put mankind in confusion that it would be from him instead of from the darkness.
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The great Prince, of which you speak is not the King of Kings.
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The Son of Man goeth, as it is written of him, but woe unto that man by who he is betrayed; it would be better if that man was never born. Declaring the end from the beginning. Not to too many people of a difficult speech and a hard language, surly, if I had sent you unto them, they would have hearkened...
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There are those of darkness who think they have destroyed God and his Son. In 1966 Time magazine was as bold as to question "Is God dead?" The bohemian grove crowd does not conduct a culmination ceremony with the burning of an effigy of man as a joke. It is to symbolize their efforts of the destruction of the image of God through pollution, chemtrails, false flag wars, abortion, etc. This is to usher in the eternally corrupted form known as the beast. It is done in a county named sonoma which means "valley of the moon.' The name like many things in spiritual battle result in hacked or reversed words for darkness. Hence, you have Son of Man turning into sonoma.

Truly it is better that these people of betrayal were not born.
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Is He the God of the mountains, Yea, and God of the valleys. The Sonoma Valley produces the old wine, the New Wine is being poured into the new vessels, so, that both are preserved. Straight~with the New is better. Is that Shiloh , I see coming, from the sheepfold of Bozrah? The sword is furbished, Watchman Watchman what of the night?
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The flock is waking up. My awakening occurred 02 Jan 93 with a loud rush. The Lord's Prayer says "Thy Kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." Much is in place and the Kingdom is amidst you. Those that have eyes and ears should see it.

The feathered serpent failed to return on 23 Dec 12 as the cursed mayans predicted. The darkness lost and the true Alpha and Omega of this time is Jesus Christ. His Father knows the hour and the day, and the returning of the Son of Man is at hand. The curse on light will close as our Father said this time would return to as the times of the flood when the curse on water took place.

The elect are being awakened with a multitude to follow. The graft of the seed nation Israel is the US. It is immersed in the mystery babylon curse. I have alot to say if people will listen. Our Father said our God desires to be worshipped in spirit and truth. Pray for your name in the Book of Life and thank him for it now, that you may see the truth and not be in the confusion and deception of the spirit of the antichrist. It was our God that said he would put mankind in confusion that it would be from him instead of from the darkness.
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I am with you. And according to Mark, those that can hear the tenor and melody, For the earth bringeth forth fruit of herself; first the blade, and then the ear and then the full corn in the ear. For it is written, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn, and the laborour is worth of his reward. That being said, brother. I am all ears. Revelation 18:4 from Memry.
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The valley of Eshcol, comes to mind. If they had walked in a straight way, it was only 11 days journey.
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Malachi 4
New King James Version (NKJV)
The Great Day of God

4 “For behold, the day is coming,
Burning like an oven,
And all the proud, yes, all who do wickedly will be stubble.
And the day which is coming shall burn them up,”
Says the Lord of hosts,
“That will leave them neither root nor branch.
2 But to you who fear My name
The Sun of Righteousness shall arise
With healing in His wings;
And you shall go out
And grow fat like stall-fed calves.
3 You shall trample the wicked,
For they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet
On the day that I do this,”
Says the Lord of hosts.
4 “Remember the Law of Moses, My servant,
Which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel,
With the statutes and judgements.
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet
Before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.
6 And he will turn
The hearts of the fathers to the children,
And the hearts of the children to their fathers,
Lest I come and strike the earth with a curse.”
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what does verse 5 mean then ??
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Jesus said that was John the Baptist. I believe Him.
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could u show me the scripture that states this ty
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Sure Paul:
Luke 1.17, Matthew 11.13-14, Matthew 17.11-13
You see the Pharisees had a real problem of seeking PHYSICAL fulfillments of things that were to be taken SPIRITUALLY! Like the coming of the Messiah wasn't about overthrowing Rome, and the eating of flesh and drinking of blood weren't literal, etc. Jesus warned them several times and Paul also, that to be carnally minded is death. To be spiritually minded however, is eternal life! Do not fall for the carnal, futuristic, PHYSICAL interpretation that makes God a liar and snatches the 70th week of Daniel from the LORD of Glory Jesus Christ and gives it to some fictitious devil-indwelt man that is found nowhere in Scripture. John the Baptist was Elijah the prophet. He came to turn Israel's hearts back to God and prepare the way of the LORD by making his paths straight. Just like the Bible predicted he would, hundreds of years beforehand!
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cool just read scripture and yep it looks like John/B is Elijah,Malachi chapter4 is defo talkin about what Peter talked about in 2nd Peter3:10 = 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.so is Elijah returning a 3rd time
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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
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Verification/confirmation is always done by a second or third person in the bible. Even speaking in angelic tongues requires a second person as an interpreter.
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when the Holy Spirit speaks through someone no interpreter is required, and that which they hear is heard around the world in every language and tongue down to and including the very dialect of each persons hometown, it is entirely familiar to all at the exact moment it's spoken

you will witness this during the time of the 6th Trump when the Elect are delivered up before antichrist
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The valley of Eshcol, comes to mind. If they had walked in a straight way, it was only 11 days journey.
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Israel is the seed nation. The Kingdom grows where covenant is made with the one, true God. The US is the second nation to do such. It is the graft.

In this cursed time, where there is great promise and blessing from God there also is the greatest fight from darkness. The lie has continued to this land. To believe the lie is to create and be shrouded in mystery. It starts with Columbus - false history and so begins the submoloch (reveresed name derivative) episode. This curse has given fruits of columbus destruction such a country (Colombia) where most cocaine (funny word) originates from. The Columbia space shuttle failed and other things associated with derivatives of Columbus which is a trigger word for judgment when the scales tip in the spiritual fight.

Once when the destroyer passed, and Noah and family were spared, this world was flooded with water. The waters receded and remnants of the cultures that were here during the time of the nephilim are in plain view. Peru and inca try to form the purification of cain. The nazca lines represent the nazi cut for dark experiments of genetic modification of God's creation, and the mayans were attempting to destroy God's work at the heart level by human sacrifice with the beating heart being ripped out. The dark false knowledge that was given to them was through the feathered serpent. This was basically an attempt to have the beast arise from the sea from the destroyed underwater throne of satan that was preflood. Revelation states the beast will arise from the sea.

When laws and ways are accepted contrary to God's laws, the system and nation (particularly those in convenant with God) fail. Dark forces want lucifer to be the god of earth. This name starts from the spiritual aspect of the moon which tries to be a false reflection of light for mankind from the sun. Know you know why the bg ceremonies are conducted in the valley of the moon - sonoma. Isn't odd that the only heavenly body without a name in modern day is the moon?

When laws that protect things such as abortion are enacted, maritime law is instituted and you are ruled from the sea. The official name of the citizen is written in all caps as though the governing body has the highest authority. The gold fringe on a flag symbolizes the false victory of the destruction of the gold firmament at the flood.

It is not by coincidence that the false ending to WW2 was conducted on the battleship Missouri (on water) with a reverse flag. It drug Japan into the curse on light and under the jurisdiction of mystery babylon. Nuclear weapons were used by the 33rd president, and he is not from Missouri by accident either nor are the numerous mounds and ancient Indian civilizations in the area of which some were fascinated with darkness and word reversal. There exists a fault line there (madrid fault line) another trigger point for land destruction like the San Francisco and Charleston (other faultline areas) where satanic works are conducted. The ones at the top of this sinister force on earth are fully awake for their mission and are intent on the destruction of mankind. There is a reason that 1/3 of the stars from heaven will fall to the earth as ripened figs shaken from the tree. Fall? 1/3 of the stars? You see what this means now don't you? These dark bastages know what they are here for, and they think they can stop God's Kingdom from coming to earth. They are dead wrong to the point of a second death in a lake of fire. Wonder where the first death occurred?

Take a look at Japan and their inexplicable growth at the expense of the US to a degree. The fact they were sold into slavery explains their growth now doesn't it? Like everything else, Fukushima is the result of spiritual warfare, and the nuclear fallout that goes back to its source and seeks to destroy the seed of destruction in the form of light destruction through nuclear war. This is what happens when man turns away from the one true God. The essence of satan's ways is to lead you down a path of destruction which offers nothing but death and destruction. Land becomes unland. Blessing becomes unblessing. The image (temple) of God is replaced with demonic possession, addictions, and ways of beastiality. Seven years time and the sense of the beast passed over man at the inception of sin and unfortunately as this curse on time and light unwinds some will be immersed in this seven years of the apocalypse and take the sense and mark of the beast. They are eternally damned.

If you are still interested, then I will continue as time permits. There is alot to tell.

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the 2 witnesses at the most basic form are everything that your dual eyes can see passing before them in the existence of creation AND everything that passes before the dual eyes that is written in all books that another man has seen with his dual eyes ....BOTH of these witnesses are seen in the created light of creation .....

when the dual eyes become single in the I ....then and only then will the LIGHT of the dual eye of creation become single within the light bringer ......and flow from within to without rather than without to within .....

the FORM of these two witnesses came into being in the days of Moses ...3500 years ago or 3 1/2 days (1000 year days) .....and lay dead in the streets of the world ..awaiting this now .....as they come ALIVE in the AWAKENED ONES ....

in this the 3rd day from the SON going dark into the CLOUDS from which he now comes as the SON OF MAN .....

YOU ARE HE...AWAKEN!
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Verification/confirmation is always done by a second or third person in the bible. Even speaking in angelic tongues requires a second person as an interpreter.
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when the Holy Spirit speaks through someone no interpreter is required, and that which they hear is heard around the world in every language and tongue down to and including the very dialect of each persons hometown, it is entirely familiar to all at the exact moment it's spoken

you will witness this during the time of the 6th Trump when the Elect are delivered up before antichrist
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You want the truth about the rapture? Here it is!

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING. IT WILL CLEAR UP THINGS FOR YOU. I USED BIBLEGATEWAY.COM FOR SCRIPTURE. SOME OF IT IS REPEATED, BUT THE CORRELATION BETWEEN MATTHEW 24 AND REVELATION 6-7 SHOWS YOU THE FIRST ENDTIME APPEARANCE OF CHRIST.
Revelation 6 12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14 The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. HERE'S YOUR SIGN OF JONAH. THREE DAYS OF DARKNESS JUST LIKE WHEN THE SON OF MAN WENT INTO THE EARTH AND JONAH WAS IN BELLY OF THE WHALE. A FAITHLESS GENERATION WILL NOT HEED THE SIGNS UNTIL THIS HAPPENS.

15 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us[f] from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of their[g] wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”
Revelation 7 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. WIND STOPS AFTER THE WORLDWIDE EARTHQUAKE. THIS IS A BIG DEAL. THE RAPTURE IS ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,

from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,

from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000,

from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,

from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,

from the tribe of Levi 12,000,

from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,

8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,

from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,

from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

The Great Multitude in White Robes

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. GATHERED FROM THE EARTH IN THE SAME TIMEFRAME AS THE ANOINTING OF THE 144,000.They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:

“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”
11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:

“Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!”
13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”

14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out KEY WORDS HERE - CAME OUT OF of the great tribulation NOT AFTER IT; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore,

“they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence.
16 ‘Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat down on them,’[a]
nor any scorching heat.
17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne
will be their shepherd;
‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’
‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’[c]”

Revelation 11 The Seventh Trumpet

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

“The kingdom of the world has become
the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah,
and he will reign for ever and ever.”
16 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17 saying:

“We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
the One who is and who was,
because you have taken your great power
and have begun to reign.
18 The nations were angry,
and your wrath has come.
The time has come for judging the dead,
and for rewarding your servants the prophets
and your people who revere your name,
both great and small—
and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”
19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.

Now look at Matthew 24
29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

“‘the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’
30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.
LOOK AT WHAT REVELATION 6;15-17 SAYS, BASICALLY THE SAME THING.[d] 31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

NOW COMPARE WHAT IS IN BOLD FOR THE CELESTIAL WOES IN REVELATION 6 AND THE EVENTS MENTIONED IN MATTHEW 24. THEY ARE CLEARLY THE SAME EVENTS. THERE IS A MULTITUDE BROUGHT BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD IN REVELATION 7 AND THE COMING OF THE SON OF MAN IN MATTHEW 24 WITH THE GATHERING OF THE ELECT IS CONSISTENT. THIS IS YOUR RAPTURE EVENT.

REVELATION 11, THE SEVENTH TRUMPET IS THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE TOTAL KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH WITH HIS SON'S MILLENIAL REIGN. THE TRANSFORMATION AT THIS EVENT IS A DIFFERENT EVENT.

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^^^^^^^^Any learned, Hebrews, want to expound why Manasseh has taken the place of Dan?
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^^^^^^^^Any learned, Hebrews, want to expound why Manasseh has taken the place of Dan?
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Manasseh and Ephraim sons of Joseph took the place of Dan.
Dan were goldsmiths, most likely expelled for creating the golden calf while Moses was on the Mount. It is said that the ones responible for the golden calf were swallowed by the Earth, by that is just a euphemism for being cast out into the secular world.

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