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I wouldnt do over three days. Three days will shrink the stomach and cleanse the organs for health reasons. Some say up to seven days, i find three to be enuff, once a month if possible.
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How long though until it causes physical problems?
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Hello Indigo.

I have been through what you are currently experiencing. For myself...I had to force feed myself for the first 5 months.

It has leveled out however, and my appetite returns from time to time.

Get yourself some Odwalla Superfood. Green juice. It has spirulina in it for protein.

Good luck love.

I survived on apples for the first months.

:)


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Thank you so much! I actually forgot all about that stuff. I used to drink it all the time. I'll definitely pick some up tomorrow.

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How long though until it causes physical problems?
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


That's interesting actually, I would think a good week before anything too bad.

I've been experiencing the exact same thing, was thinking of making a thread actually.

Hmm... hmm

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k, well it'll be a week tomorrow.

Sorry you are experiencing it too!
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usually fasting causes the most problems in the first few days. as your body doesn't have food in the stomach, it starts taking from stored fuel [fat]. because toxins are also stored in fat [your body's way of isolating them from your running system, you will feel icky and headachey the first few days. You can go quite a while without solid food, but you cannot go without water. Drinking a good quantity of water will actually help you get past the toxic-headache phase faster if you can handle sipping water. Then after a week or so, if you don't add some kind of glucose/sugar to your fluids for energy, and if you're thin and don't have fat reserves, your body THEN goes after muscle and you'll begin wasting. That will affect your heart too. Some people get skipping or heart-in-the-throat feeling. Funny, because that's also the same feeling anxiety causes.

That exact same feeling is also caused by Mitral Valve Prolapse MVP, which is a slightly leaky fluttery heart valve. A lot of people don't know they have it [not a lethal medical issue] until they go to the ER certain they're having a heart attack and find out that MVP when it acts up, causes the brain to freak out for a mini-second and dump adrenalin.

I have struggled with anxiety my whole life due to childhood abuse, and didn't get a handle on my trigger patterns until the past few years. Then found out I have MVP. double whammy.

I do yoga in the mornings because deep breathing and stretching literally helps my state of mind.
I do EFT "Tapping" to release stored adrenalin. [YouTube that one.] You tap on nerve trigger points. Even if it's only a mental psycho-somatic reaction, it still greatly works to relieve that "out of body" dissociation feeling that anxiety and adrelin dumps can cause because it is a bio-feedback practice. Filing fingernails, rubbing lotion and other tactile things can also help release bundled nerves. [no more dependency on nicotine! for me]

I take melatonin and L-tryptophan at bedtime. It helps the mind calm down to break that obsessive thinking cycle. Valerian tea is all-natural and calming. too much will knock you out for deep sleep.

Most important when you do start eating again, start with simple starches or sugars like crackers or fruit, so you don't upset your stomach.

If you are prone to anxiety attacks, consider getting all man-made sugar out of your system [bleached white sugar] and definitely all neurotoxins which includes aspartame in diet drinks etc. and limiting cafeinne, because they are brain excito-toxins, and you don't need the extra aggravation. and consider getting your heart checked for MVP.

I do fast on purpose every once in a while for medical reasons and use the 'Master Cleanse' recipe of lg. water bottle with 1 Tbs lemon juice, 1 Tbs. raw maple syrup or honey and pinch of cayenne. The lemon juice is acidic to taste but causes your body to balance internal acids to help you be more alkaline. the maple or honey is to provide simple sugars for energy and the cayenne is an immunity and metabolism boost. You may need simple honey water right now.
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Awesome ideas. Thank you!
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What you're doing is not fasting. Fasting takes focus and purpose. The problem is the anxiety. This is what must be addressed. If it is heartsickness, it can cause all kinds of problems. If it is a true anxiety attack, you can feel like you are dying. Most who have anxiety attacks feel like they can just lay back their head and slip into unconsciousness. The normal problems of life don't usually produce the kind of anxiety you are talking about. This is a CONDITION that may have nothing to do with the attacks. It may just be the trigger.

The most pressing problem you may have with the fast is that your body NEEDS nourishment to battle this condition. This is not a fast for spiritual reasons. The worst that you may experience from the fast, itself, is perhaps the toxins in your body accumulating on your tongue. The attacks may exacerbate the toxins even in your pores and you become "sour" from the unnatural excretion of bodily fluids. The feeling of the heart attack is from the FEAR of the unnatural emotions running through your body. Usually there is no actual reason to fear that you will die. But it is very difficult to get control over the racing thoughts which are fed by the adrenaline.

I won't even go into the REASONS for the anxiety. Often that is very personal and most don't or or unable to discuss the underlying reasons. The season is often an underlying reason, but often there are deep-seated reasons that run the who gamut of psychological reasons from past abuse, present abuse, or just simple introversion and aversion to stress. Nothing or no one is worth suffering this--no matter how deeply you feel for them. You need to address this problem and you need to address it NOW. Sometimes it helps to know that people care. since I am spiritually minded, earnest prayer can help and getting into the Scriptures can help to slow you down. Professional help can be helpful or just call a helpline to help talk you through it. Be at peace dear heart. Every person I have ever met with this condition has a dear heart that often gets hurt beyond what most can see or feel. Don't be alone if at all possible. Loneliness is a heart killer. Aloneness with with no one to share it with is a mind killer. Mr prayer is with you dear one. I don't just know OF your pain. I can feel it too.
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Thank you. hf. It definitely wasn't intentional fasting. Just can't stomach food because of the constant panic. It is due to circumstances, it isn't just a normal day. I have been calling on everyone and praying as much as possible. It is pretty much all I do anymore. This was an awesome reply and made me wanna cry. hugs
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I wouldnt do over three days. Three days will shrink the stomach and cleanse the organs for health reasons. Some say up to seven days, i find three to be enuff, once a month if possible.
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Alrighty. Well, it wasn't intentional and I'd love to eat, so I'll keep that in mind. Thanks :).
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You'll should be fine people do extreme fasts for like 25 days and they still recover fine. I dont think your doing it that long...?? As long as your keeping hydrated and when you come out of it make sure you have juice first and then high fiber things.

Are you fasting to detox?

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I fasted and on the 8th day with no food, only water, the whites of my eyes became yellow jandiced. I found out that I have something called "gilbert's syndrome" and should never fast. Check that your eyes don't turn yellow each day. If you notice that they are turning yellow, stop fasting immediately. Your liver is not working correctly and your eyes can permanently turn yellow from the billirubin being released.
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Just some questions about fasting if anyone has the answers, I would appreciate it. Thanks :).

So, I haven't eaten since Thursday. It wasn't intentional, just some things going on made it unable for me to eat. I know people do this intentionally so I don't know what harm there is in it. I am still relatively hydrated. I have heard that we can go a long time without food. I'm just wondering how long before it starts to be a problem for our organs.

Also, in this situation, I am in a constant state of panic, so I am going off of adrenaline at all times. Sometimes it actually feels like I may have a heart attack. The panic is what is preventing me from eating, but I just want to make sure that the lack of food isn't going to physically harm me yet.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


You need to eat something, even if its just a piece of toast or some fruit.

Organ problems is going to vary person to person based on their health, weight, height, etc.

If this goes on for much longer you should consult with your doctor.

Jesus went 40 days with no food or water but was tempted by Satan when he was near death. The longest my husband has gone without food or water deliberately was 5 days but he ended up getting a bad sinus infection after he starting eating & drinking again.
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You'll should be fine people do extreme fasts for like 25 days and they still recover fine. I dont think your doing it that long...?? As long as your keeping hydrated and when you come out of it make sure you have juice first and then high fiber things.

Are you fasting to detox?
 Quoting: TT YHWH TT



Okay, I've only been doing it now for 7 days. I am pretty hydrated and going to try to stomach super food today.

Nope, just haven't been able to eat.
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I fasted and on the 8th day with no food, only water, the whites of my eyes became yellow jandiced. I found out that I have something called "gilbert's syndrome" and should never fast. Check that your eyes don't turn yellow each day. If you notice that they are turning yellow, stop fasting immediately. Your liver is not working correctly and your eyes can permanently turn yellow from the billirubin being released.
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Oh okay, I'll watch for that. Thanks.
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Just some questions about fasting if anyone has the answers, I would appreciate it. Thanks :).

So, I haven't eaten since Thursday. It wasn't intentional, just some things going on made it unable for me to eat. I know people do this intentionally so I don't know what harm there is in it. I am still relatively hydrated. I have heard that we can go a long time without food. I'm just wondering how long before it starts to be a problem for our organs.

Also, in this situation, I am in a constant state of panic, so I am going off of adrenaline at all times. Sometimes it actually feels like I may have a heart attack. The panic is what is preventing me from eating, but I just want to make sure that the lack of food isn't going to physically harm me yet.
 Quoting: IndigoSerenity76


You need to eat something, even if its just a piece of toast or some fruit.

Organ problems is going to vary person to person based on their health, weight, height, etc.

If this goes on for much longer you should consult with your doctor.

Jesus went 40 days with no food or water but was tempted by Satan when he was near death. The longest my husband has gone without food or water deliberately was 5 days but he ended up getting a bad sinus infection after he starting eating & drinking again.
 Quoting: mopar28m


Thank you. I've been trying, going to keep trying today.
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