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To the Men in this world... Please forgive us

 
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury,pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen

stallionlight

I am only one woman but this needs to be said.
We have a great division between the genders in this world that needs to be healed.
We have turned our faith and desires in the wrong direction and used men for our own means.
Dear Brothers of the World...

I am Sorry that we have used you for a meal ticket.
I am Sorry that we have cheated on you and around you in whatever the case may be.
I am Sorry that we have lost faith in men to be our other half to make a complete whole.
I am sorry by our own doings we have corrupted men for means of sex.
I am sorry that we have manipulated you for our own selfish purposes.
I am sorry by means of things we say and do that we have injured your manhood and masculinity.
I am sorry for the lies women have told men to obscure our intentions.
I am sorry that when you are trying your hardest that we only see the weak part and not the strong.
I am sorry that we have set in motion your destruction of soul and body by our words.
I am sorry that in your hours of need instead of standing by you in your trials that we walk away and break your spirit.
I am sorry that we have lost faith in the divine relationship between man and woman.

In injuring and insulting you we have done the same to ourselves.
There is much more I could add to this but will leave it simple for now.
I hope that you can feel my heart in this and I humbly ask your forgiveness from the depths of my soul for abusing the gift that God has given us.

I ask the Father and Mother in heaven to hear our plea's and to grant forgiveness and healing from on High to restore the breach between men and women.I ask for Divine Love to be restored on earth and the hearts of the children be returned to the truth of the Kingdom of Heaven within us.



Please Forgive Me... I forgive You hf

Please , Please , Please do not let un~ forgiveness stand in the way of you being able to regain your relationship with Heaven and the Healing of your soul.

Seeking to Heal the Breach

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Please , Heaven forgive us because we have become in our doings what we once despised. Please pour out Your loving Mercy and Grace Upon us so that we may Heal
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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speak for yourself
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I am dear soul and hopefully this can be an example for thoughts and actions to the other women of the world.

hugs thanks for your input

We need healing as well hugs
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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Beautiful Fringe.

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Beautiful Fringe.

hugs
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hugs Thank you most valued Friend
Peace, Love and Blessings to you and yours hon

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" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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I hope that you can feel my heart in this and I humbly ask your forgiveness from the depths of my soul for abusing the gift that God has given us.

Thanks for saying this...of course I forgive you.
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury,pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen

I believe the above is from a Saint, quoted in its entirety out of context. I doubt this was directed at a specific gender. I think any woman looking for a man to complete her is dillusional. It seems to me your ideas about men border on worship, and i find that disturbing.
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury,pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen

I believe the above is from a Saint, quoted in its entirety out of context. I doubt this was directed at a specific gender. I think any woman looking for a man to complete her is dillusional. It seems to me your ideas about men border on worship, and i find that disturbing.
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


That was in context with My Heart. I do not worship men but they are an integral part of this world we live in.
I have suffered much abuse at the Hands and doing of Men in my world also.
I do not seek a man to make me whole. It is the Christ within me that does so.
What I am seeking for is peace between genders and right relationships that are blessed.

You Worship the Father and Mother of Heaven only.

hugs thanks for your input it is appreciated.
Meanings in translation are often lost because of the lack of being able to see a person's reaction or verbal inflections of their voices.
Also ... I never judge a book by its cover the contents may be much more than a picture or cover may convey.

hf

Walk a mile in another person's shoes before you make an assumption please :)
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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speak for yourself
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I am dear soul and hopefully this can be an example for thoughts and actions to the other women of the world.

hugs thanks for your input

We need healing as well hugs
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Sounds like you need to apologize to a certain guy or guys who you were a total bitch to and fucked around on.

Be the change you desire, rather than condemn all women as possessing your faults.

Yes, many women are bitches and whores like you evidentially have been and it is epidemicly bad right now, but change comes first at the micro.

Fix yourself and don't hide behind being a victim of a societal trap. Even though you were mislead by society, you were the dummy that followed like a zombie whore.

You were stupid, mean and a whore. Ask those you hurt for forgiveness (don't expect to get it), forgive yourself and move on.
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you are forgiven :)
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury,pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen

I believe the above is from a Saint, quoted in its entirety out of context. I doubt this was directed at a specific gender. I think any woman looking for a man to complete her is dillusional. It seems to me your ideas about men border on worship, and i find that disturbing.
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


That was in context with My Heart. I do not worship men but they are an integral part of this world we live in.
I have suffered much abuse at the Hands and doing of Men in my world also.
I do not seek a man to make me whole. It is the Christ within me that does so.
What I am seeking for is peace between genders and right relationships that are blessed.

You Worship the Father and Mother of Heaven only.

hugs thanks for your input it is appreciated.
Meanings in translation are often lost because of the lack of being able to see a person's reaction or verbal inflections of their voices.
Also ... I never judge a book by its cover the contents may be much more than a picture or cover may convey.

hf

Walk a mile in another person's shoes before you make an assumption please :)
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Fair enough, I just worry when i think i see someone going kookoo for coocoo puffs.
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speak for yourself
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I am dear soul and hopefully this can be an example for thoughts and actions to the other women of the world.

hugs thanks for your input

We need healing as well hugs
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Sounds like you need to apologize to a certain guy or guys who you were a total bitch to and fucked around on.

Be the change you desire, rather than condemn all women as possessing your faults.

Yes, many women are bitches and whores like you evidentially have been and it is epidemicly bad right now, but change comes first at the micro.

Fix yourself and don't hide behind being a victim of a societal trap. Even though you were mislead by society, you were the dummy that followed like a zombie whore.

You were stupid, mean and a whore. Ask those you hurt for forgiveness (don't expect to get it), forgive yourself and move on.
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Let me tell you about my first marriage. I was 17 and married for 6 months when I found out my husband was having an affair with my stepfather who gave me away at our wedding., Only to be put thru sexual abuse I did not ask for .I stayed with this man for 6 more years after this. I left when he abused me in front of my children in a manner no child should see. I had joined the Army so that we would have a regular means of support.. and during the divorce while in Germany ... our mutual lawyer decided to drop me and represent him. I lost custody of my children because I was sent a court appearance date and received it the day before I was supposed to appear. I did not get to physically see those children again for 16 years.
I am not a victim I take full responsibility in my actions. I have never in my entire life cheated on a man that I was with but have been cheated on.

Please don't make assumptions of someone's life you know nothing about.

I have asked for and extended forgiveness to those who I have wronged and who have wronged me.

I am not a victim. I have worked long and hard to repair the wrongs I have done in my life.

Christ showed me the error of my ways.

I seek to love not destroy.

hf thank you for your thoughts tho

Peace to you
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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Phenomenal post Fringe. Your character is brilliant. sun

hf


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Also, you know why you fucked up, even though you are a bible banger? Because you grovel to god. God didn't make you to be helpless and grovel, god made you so he could watch you use your free will to pick yourself up.

You were born with god's assistance...which is your conscious and free will. Respect god and yourself and use the assistance you were given.

Look inward to be closer to god, not through others descriptions of how you should find god.

Looking outward is what got you to this guilt you feel. Looking outward for god didn't protect you from the traps of society. Why? Because you are an appendage of god. Why look outside your body, when your body is a part of "outside"?

Looking outside your own divinity is a trap. It strips you of your divine powers you were born with.

You probably find me mean, but I am far from it. I can sense your search for truth, but you run back into the burning buildings that burned you for salvation.

You run back to being a slave, because you didn't realize when you broke free of the plantations the last time you just picked a new plantation and slave master of a different kind.

You need to learn how to be free. Freedom comes from embarrassing your own divinity, not getting it from others. Unless it is from pure and honest love, but still that feeling and connection is from inside, not outside.
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speak for yourself
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I am dear soul and hopefully this can be an example for thoughts and actions to the other women of the world.

hugs thanks for your input

We need healing as well hugs
 Quoting: >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<


Sounds like you need to apologize to a certain guy or guys who you were a total bitch to and fucked around on.

Be the change you desire, rather than condemn all women as possessing your faults.

Yes, many women are bitches and whores like you evidentially have been and it is epidemicly bad right now, but change comes first at the micro.

Fix yourself and don't hide behind being a victim of a societal trap. Even though you were mislead by society, you were the dummy that followed like a zombie whore.

You were stupid, mean and a whore. Ask those you hurt for forgiveness (don't expect to get it), forgive yourself and move on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30895359


Let me tell you about my first marriage. I was 17 and married for 6 months when I found out my husband was having an affair with my stepfather who gave me away at our wedding., Only to be put thru sexual abuse I did not ask for .I stayed with this man for 6 more years after this. I left when he abused me in front of my children in a manner no child should see. I had joined the Army so that we would have a regular means of support.. and during the divorce while in Germany ... our mutual lawyer decided to drop me and represent him. I lost custody of my children because I was sent a court appearance date and received it the day before I was supposed to appear. I did not get to physically see those children again for 16 years.
I am not a victim I take full responsibility in my actions. I have never in my entire life cheated on a man that I was with but have been cheated on.

Please don't make assumptions of someone's life you know nothing about.

I have asked for and extended forgiveness to those who I have wronged and who have wronged me.

I am not a victim. I have worked long and hard to repair the wrongs I have done in my life.

Christ showed me the error of my ways.

I seek to love not destroy.

hf thank you for your thoughts tho

Peace to you
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I am sorry you had that happen to you, but it is obvious you are omitting parts of your history now.

How are you asking for forgiveness in leaving men when they need you most, when now you claim you have been the faithful women who was crapped on?

Also, you losing your children to an adulterer while you were a serving soldier doesn't make sense. Once again...you are omitting information.

You will deny this, but it is obvious. Your omissions make me sad, because you are far from saved nor found.

Jesus cannot save you, only you can save you. Yes, his teaching can be an example and provide strength, but you must be the change you seek.

See...a little challenge and you basically talked about men screwing you over and you were the helpless victim. A little pressure and you ran back to the condemnation you seek forgiveness for.

You don't want truth, you want to babysat through life.
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Also, you know why you fucked up, even though you are a bible banger? Because you grovel to god. God didn't make you to be helpless and grovel, god made you so he could watch you use your free will to pick yourself up.

You were born with god's assistance...which is your conscious and free will. Respect god and yourself and use the assistance you were given.

Look inward to be closer to god, not through others descriptions of how you should find god.

Looking outward is what got you to this guilt you feel. Looking outward for god didn't protect you from the traps of society. Why? Because you are an appendage of god. Why look outside your body, when your body is a part of "outside"?

Looking outside your own divinity is a trap. It strips you of your divine powers you were born with.

You probably find me mean, but I am far from it. I can sense your search for truth, but you run back into the burning buildings that burned you for salvation.

You run back to being a slave, because you didn't realize when you broke free of the plantations the last time you just picked a new plantation and slave master of a different kind.

You need to learn how to be free. Freedom comes from embarrassing your own divinity, not getting it from others. Unless it is from pure and honest love, but still that feeling and connection is from inside, not outside.
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I am an overcomer and go within to find what I need from Christ. I know the Kingdom of Heaven is within you . You have no idea at the circumstances of my life and up bringing ...
I know that God and the Holy Spirit have been with me. I am no longer a slave to my fleshly body but choose to walk after the spirit instead. hf
I understand the value of being evenly yoked with Christ and letting the Great work transpire in my heart and soul. I seek no mans approval but only that of the Mother and Father .
I am at peace with my world heart and mind as I seek to do no wrong to anyone and reap what I have sown in a bad fashion hf Life has taught me this
I do not seek to be conformed to this world but work on renewing my mind and heart . Transformation
As I have said I have been shown the error of my ways :)

Thank you for your words of wisdom hf
" I have Lost My Religion and found My Spirituality "

If it were not for My Life's Lessons I would not be Who I am today. "Thank You"

" I will NOT ... Give up: Give in: or admit defeat: I will overcome all obstacles in my path and reach the mark/goal and gateway out: :)) "
"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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a beautiful post Fringe thank you.
And to the spineless coward who thinks it's ok to come on here and call you names and accuse you of things he knows nothing about..you told us more about yourself than you will ever realize.

While you SCREAM at your woman, there’s a man wishing he could whisper softly in her ear… While you HUMILIATE,OFFEND and INSULT her, there’s a man flirting with her and reminding her how wonderful she is. While you make your women CRY there’s a man stealing smiles from her. While you HURT your woman, there’s a man wishing he could take her pain AWAY.
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As a man, I can say that men are not perfect as well(note: this appies to majority, but not all men):
We do not pay enough attention on things you say, because our nature is so tells us to. While you see feelings as priority, we see threat as priority.
We are too objective. We only say what is needed to be said, trying to be as short as possible, speaking less, saying more. Again, its our nature, but we know that this bother most women.
We can concentrate in one thing at a time. Women, can pay attention on many things at a time. The difference? Well, men put 100% of attention on what we're doing.

Now let me try to explain why all these differences between men and women:

"I want to start with men’s brains, all right now men’s brains are very unique, men’s brains are made up of little boxes. And we have a box for everything. We’ve got a box for the car, we’ve got a box for the money, we’ve got a box for the job, we’ve got a box for you, we’ve got a box for the kids, we’ve got a box for your mother somewhere in the basement… We’ve got boxes everywhere. And the rule is : the boxes don’t touch.

When a man discusses a particular subject, we go to that particular box, we pull that box out, we open the box, we discuss only what is in THAT BOX ! All right ? And then we close the box and put it away being very very careful NOT TO TOUCH any other boxes.

Now women’s brains are very very different from men’s brains. Women’s brains are made up of a big ball of wire. And everything is connected to everything. Zzz zzzz The money is connected to the car and the car’s connected to your job and the kids are connected to your mother and everything is connected to everything and it’s just like zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
It’s like the internet super highway.

And it’s all driven by energy that we call emotion.
It’s one of the reasons why women tend to remember everything. Because if you take an event and you connect it to an emotion, it burns in your memory and you can remember it for ever.
The same thing happens for men, it just don’t happen very often, because quite frankly, we don’t care. Women tend to care about EEEVERYTHIIING !

Now men, we have a box in our brain that most women are not aware of. This particular box has nothing in it. It’s true. In fact we call it “the nothing box”. And of all the boxes a man has in his brain, the nothing box is our favourite box. If a man has a chance, he’ll go to his nothing box everytime. That’s why a man can do something seemingly completely braindead for hours on end. You know like fishing… And we love it, that’s why a man can sit in front of the TV and go… Aaaah… It glows aaah…
Of course this drives our wives nuts because they’ll come up and say STOP THAT ! You can possibly be watching ANYTHING ! – I’m not… Go away.

Now we actually measured this. The University of Pennsylvania a couple of years ago did a study and discovered that men have the ability to think about absolutely nothing, and still breathe. You know, they connected all the wires and stuff like that, watched the brain activity and listen iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii… I think he’s dead ! - Huh ? You know…

Women can’t do it ! They can’t do it, their mind never stops zzzzzzz tikitikitiki zzzz tiki zzz
And they don’t understand the nothing box ! And it drives them crazy ! Because nothing drives a woman more crazy (sic) and makes her feel more irritated than to witness a man doing NOTHING !

Now one of the biggest revelations I get out of women is this nothing box issue. They go ah !
Everything’s starting to make sense ! I’ve had women say oh can I go in his nothing box with him ? - NOOO ! - Why not ? – Because then it’s something ! Besides you’d walk in and go : you know, this place could really use some pictures… I see a table over here, some flowers and… NO ! Nothing ! Get out, we don’t want nothing.

Now (let’s analyse ?) the way men and women handle stress. OK. When a man is stressed out, all he wants to do is run to his nothing box. This is how we unwind. The last thing we want to do when we are stressed out is talk about it. We don’t want to talk about it we just wanna enter the nothing box.

Of course this drives you nuts you know. A woman will see a man in this vegetative state she’ll come up and go : -
- What’re you thinking about ?
– Nothing.
– You gotta be thinking about something !
– No I think about nothing. (…?) Go away.
All right, cause that’s the way we handle stress we just chill out.

Now when a woman is stressed out, she has to talk about it. If she doesn’t talk about it, her brain will literally explode. So she starts to just zzz tikitikizzz I don’t know my husband will do that zzz I never thought about this zzz my brother aaaaaaaaaah !

And I know men who run from their wives when they do this. I say I say why do you run from her ? He says cause I don’t know what to tell her. I say dear God man you don’t need to tell her anything. She don’t want you to tell her anything. You see a lot of guys they feel obligated when you start explaining all your stress, they feel obligated to fix you. Cause that’s what a man does, a man only tells his troubles to another man in hopes that that man will help to fix it. OK ? But she’s not a man; and you try to fix her, she gonna kill you. All right ? She doesn’t want your advice, she doesn’t want your help, she wants you to SHUT UP AND LISTEN !

by Mark Gungor.
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As a woman, I ask you to not speak for me or any other woman.

No woman is responsible for the actions of other women. Just as no man is responsible for the actions of all men.

I would no sooner apologize for what someone else did, then I would demand an apology from everyone, because one person harmed me.

Women are not the problem. Men are not the problem. Drop you petty hatred people and just treat everyone with respect and this lifetime will be a lot easier on everyone.
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Sister? Perhaps you are confessing your own sins or transgressions but there are way many of us who have not done this.

You paraphrase alot of St. Francis of Assisi and then confess to things that are alien to me and I am sure to others as well.

Ask forgiveness for your own sins and forgive, that is what we are to do, but do not include those who have had no part in what you imagine.

Succinctly as one previous wrote "speak for yourself"
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I am dear soul and hopefully this can be an example for thoughts and actions to the other women of the world.

hugs thanks for your input

We need healing as well hugs
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Sounds like you need to apologize to a certain guy or guys who you were a total bitch to and fucked around on.

Be the change you desire, rather than condemn all women as possessing your faults.

Yes, many women are bitches and whores like you evidentially have been and it is epidemicly bad right now, but change comes first at the micro.

Fix yourself and don't hide behind being a victim of a societal trap. Even though you were mislead by society, you were the dummy that followed like a zombie whore.

You were stupid, mean and a whore. Ask those you hurt for forgiveness (don't expect to get it), forgive yourself and move on.
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Let me tell you about my first marriage. I was 17 and married for 6 months when I found out my husband was having an affair with my stepfather who gave me away at our wedding., Only to be put thru sexual abuse I did not ask for .I stayed with this man for 6 more years after this. I left when he abused me in front of my children in a manner no child should see. I had joined the Army so that we would have a regular means of support.. and during the divorce while in Germany ... our mutual lawyer decided to drop me and represent him. I lost custody of my children because I was sent a court appearance date and received it the day before I was supposed to appear. I did not get to physically see those children again for 16 years.
I am not a victim I take full responsibility in my actions. I have never in my entire life cheated on a man that I was with but have been cheated on.

Please don't make assumptions of someone's life you know nothing about.

I have asked for and extended forgiveness to those who I have wronged and who have wronged me.

I am not a victim. I have worked long and hard to repair the wrongs I have done in my life.

Christ showed me the error of my ways.

I seek to love not destroy.

hf thank you for your thoughts tho

Peace to you
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I am sorry you had that happen to you, but it is obvious you are omitting parts of your history now.

How are you asking for forgiveness in leaving men when they need you most, when now you claim you have been the faithful women who was crapped on?

Also, you losing your children to an adulterer while you were a serving soldier doesn't make sense. Once again...you are omitting information.

You will deny this, but it is obvious. Your omissions make me sad, because you are far from saved nor found.

Jesus cannot save you, only you can save you. Yes, his teaching can be an example and provide strength, but you must be the change you seek.

See...a little challenge and you basically talked about men screwing you over and you were the helpless victim. A little pressure and you ran back to the condemnation you seek forgiveness for.

You don't want truth, you want to babysat through life.
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Again your own perceptions and they are far off the mark. I leave out details that are way to personal and that is my right. hf
I have admitted I have done wrongs and that is between God Myself and the Person Never said I was innocent.
I stated I have worked long and hard and by my own confession to heal and repair breaches .
I think you not mean , you just have a pre conceived notion of what I am trying to convey. I said I have forgiven those who have wronged me ..but you continue to look past my heart and see what you think it your truth.
the things I have mention are merely references to thing that have happened in life . Again thank you for your input.
Peace to You hugs
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yes my spelling sux get over it and move on i did.
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Thanks >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<, your thread renewed my hopes. hf


I still dream with a world where men and women can live in peace, like it used to be.

And don't bother with feminists posts being rude to you, they are the ones to blame for breaking the harmony between man and woman. So, it's the feminists who owe us apology, for the men and for the women.
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Thanks Op for the sincerity. Only it takes two to tango and the gender wars/feminist movement/counter cultural revolution were bought and paid for by the CIA!

NWO Agenda Exposed in 1969.
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I suppose the women on this site are totally blameless, "methinks thou dost protest too much"
and of course all the men here are perfect too.

She was extending an olive branch and apology for the sins of women toward men in GENERAL. I only wish I had the ability to write something so beautiful to apologize for the sins of Men against women in response.

All I can say is if you have been beaten, cheated on, abused emotionally, lied to, humiliated, and basically treated like sh*t by a Man. I apologize on his behalf, because apparently he isn't man enough to do so himself.

A real man never hurts a woman.
Be very careful when you make a woman cry,because God counts all of her tears.
The woman came out of man's rib.
Not from his feet to be walked on.
Not from his head to be superior.
But from his side to be equal,
under the arm to be protected,
and next to the heart to be loved.
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Apologies accepted OP! Now go make me a sammich and bring me a beer - already opened!
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Thank you for being honest and being able to see the truth of how things are. Most truthfull thing I ever read on here.
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Thanks Op for the sincerity. Only it takes two to tango and the gender wars/feminist movement/counter cultural revolution were bought and paid for by the CIA!

NWO Agenda Exposed in 1969.
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it's the divide and conquer program thru ignorance of the veil of forgetfulness . We were once help meets to each other and that has been injured.
Balance is a great key and mutual respect and love.
Thank You hf we need much more Hope in this world

Thanks >~* Flutterby Fringe*~<, your thread renewed my hopes. hf


I still dream with a world where men and women can live in peace, like it used to be.

And don't bother with feminists posts being rude to you, they are the ones to blame for breaking the harmony between man and woman. So, it's the feminists who owe us apology, for the men and for the women.
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I believe that works both ways hon. Both genders have abused and been abused and lead down a destructive path
Men and women are valuable in their own rights and both have something extraordinary to offer but that has also been obscured and obfuscated by the darkness.
My only intention is to shine light and love and grace
Was never my intent to Offend in a destructive manner, but for thought and healing to transpire.
hugs
Thanks for all who leave their thoughts and input it is all appreciated and food for thought for the soul and heart.

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"It is Wholeness and Balance That I seek"
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Lord, make me an instrument of your peace.
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury,pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
and where there is sadness, joy.

O Divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life. Amen

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I am only one woman but this needs to be said.
We have a great division between the genders in this world that needs to be healed.
We have turned our faith and desires in the wrong direction and used men for our own means.
Dear Brothers of the World...

I am Sorry that we have used you for a meal ticket.
I am Sorry that we have cheated on you and around you in whatever the case may be.
I am Sorry that we have lost faith in men to be our other half to make a complete whole.
I am sorry by our own doings we have corrupted men for means of sex.
I am sorry that we have manipulated you for our own selfish purposes.
I am sorry by means of things we say and do that we have injured your manhood and masculinity.
I am sorry for the lies women have told men to obscure our intentions.
I am sorry that when you are trying your hardest that we only see the weak part and not the strong.
I am sorry that we have set in motion your destruction of soul and body by our words.
I am sorry that in your hours of need instead of standing by you in your trials that we walk away and break your spirit.
I am sorry that we have lost faith in the divine relationship between man and woman.

In injuring and insulting you we have done the same to ourselves.
There is much more I could add to this but will leave it simple for now.
I hope that you can feel my heart in this and I humbly ask your forgiveness from the depths of my soul for abusing the gift that God has given us.

I ask the Father and Mother in heaven to hear our plea's and to grant forgiveness and healing from on High to restore the breach between men and women.I ask for Divine Love to be restored on earth and the hearts of the children be returned to the truth of the Kingdom of Heaven within us.



Please Forgive Me... I forgive You hf

Please , Please , Please do not let un~ forgiveness stand in the way of you being able to regain your relationship with Heaven and the Healing of your soul.

Seeking to Heal the Breach

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Please , Heaven forgive us because we have become in our doings what we once despised. Please pour out Your loving Mercy and Grace Upon us so that we may Heal
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Amen to that! red_heart

May any divisions be healed, any wrongs, righted.

I respect men greatly, and honor and am thankful for their part in this world, and the gifts unique to them that they can give. Thank you, guys for all you are and can do. hf
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Thank you for being from the heart.
Your words are heard.

We both have to heal.
That´s what we´re here for.

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