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WhatI AM about to say I AM in no way saying this is the only truth or that it is . It will be up to you to decide for yourself.

I have spent much of my life looking through and studying religous text and prophecies and also just spiritual practices and this is my conclusion.

What most see as just energy I see as consciousness. I will not use the term GOD as it has attachments to it that I dont want to be attached as I tell this story. I will use the term Prime Creator and what I mean is the one consciousness from which we all have risen from. If you close your eyes and move not a muscle and just observe what is happening within your being you will see that is what its like for prime creator alone but aware of its existence.

I believe that prime creator wanted to have a partner so to say a family that would seem outside itself and travel with through the many creations that have risen from its own thoughts and desires. Now how can all that is become two that is where we will go to now. First you would have to create a space seemingly outside of self. This was done by taking Half the consciousness and withdrawing what I will refer to as light which is really information into itself and tightly binding it. This withdrawing of light we see as the big bang now we all know it was neitheir big nor loud I call it an implosion not explosion. This is what we interpret as dark.

This caused a war within so to speak Prime creator itself the first and original split into Light and darkness. This was just in consciousness and the light portion could not see its connection to the dark portion and vise versa. This split as it trickled down into what would be our material existence is shown in everything. Like when a cell starts dividing to create a baby it splits and continues as the splits occur the information becomes specific for specific functions like muscles tissue brain cells and everything that makes us up. The cells have access to the same information as the original cell the only difference is what it expresses and what it turns off so to speak. Now forms arose some being of the light and some being of the dark but all being prime creator. So the space was created that seemed to be outside itself.

Since both understood on some level their connection to prime creator. Eatch felt its own right to rule and since they could not see the other as being connected to prime creator they sought to control the other and if control could not be obtained its destruction. Thus the wars in heaven started. The wars is something that all religions agree upon in my studies its there. Now since the light and dark seem to come from different worlds so to speak different universes. I guess more appropriatly different dimensions. The wars raged on within which reflected here in our reality. So a thought occured to both factions that we may be destroyed. this is where the human being comes into play. this world was created to house information from both factions which is why its in what we term free will zone. Both the light and dark can add to the information here which we call DNA a library of information.

This was prime creators intention. So now there is a being that is able to house many different frequencies from the lowest per say to the highest or you can say from the darkest to the most light. Why is it well now the original split which occured within consciousness can now be housed within a form. Male female ying/yang. The intentions has been complete the desire so to speak of prime creator has been accomplished. The seven great cycles was known by prime creator it would take. And on the seventh day he/she rested. we are moving into the seventh golden age or the seventh great cycle of this universe. What does this herald well It means that two great awarnesses will be awakening to the full ness of being prime creator the Ying/yang and the rest of prime creator which is eatch and every one of us will become aware to the degree that prime creator wanted to in the journey you are. A connectivness will arise no more will the light see the "dark" as something seperate and vise versa. The true holy marriage is now in place to be done This marriage is the union between the light and dark portions of Prime creator own consciousness. And all will not go back to one the instance it awakes but will be within the human being. A form which can house many different frequencies thus allowing entrance into the many different dimensions of creation. As seperate but one. In two forms but one awareness. A family for awarness itself. This is why the wars are stoping and this is what is occuring and no date can be given for now its a surprise even unto itself. It will not occur until this awareness is within both factions.

we all are but an experience a journey of that which is that which I call prime creator. Energy consciousness whatever you wish to deem it. Everything else was just so this could occur. You act on no thought of your own every thought or intention and I dont care what form you have was just a thought and intention of prime craetor. May your journey be blessed and may you see your connectivness to all life even that which we call dark which is not dark at all just light withdrawn in itself and tightly bound. I semd all my love which is only prime creators love for itself. Love becomes hate when information is bound. May all your journeys fullfill you with the upmost extacy and joy. This is just a thought. just an idea how you take it is up to you. be well and be in peace NOW and forever more as all eneters into the rest of itself.
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For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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The ancient Hindu philosophy has said there is nothing we can say about reality, or god. The only thing we can say is what it isn't, because it is beyond words. Because no words or conceptions can describe the ultimate self, ultimate reality. The void.

"God", is beyond description, purpose, point, etc.
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Thank you and peace with you
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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The ancient Hindu philosophy has said there is nothing we can say about reality, or god. The only thing we can say is what it isn't, because it is beyond words. Because no words or conceptions can describe the ultimate self, ultimate reality. The void.

"God", is beyond description, purpose, point, etc.
 Quoting: Sunyata


As this is true the material had a purpose and a point. This is the best i could define it. As the real knowing is unspeakable and like I said from the start I AM not saying this is the way it is just a thought I have kept within myself for a very long time and just wanted to share. Peace with you
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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The ancient Hindu philosophy has said there is nothing we can say about reality, or god. The only thing we can say is what it isn't, because it is beyond words. Because no words or conceptions can describe the ultimate self, ultimate reality. The void.

"God", is beyond description, purpose, point, etc.
 Quoting: Sunyata


As this is true the material had a purpose and a point. This is the best i could define it. As the real knowing is unspeakable and like I said from the start I AM not saying this is the way it is just a thought I have kept within myself for a very long time and just wanted to share. Peace with you
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No, I feel you, thanks for sharing, we're all chatter boxes and I love the speak my mind too.

So to speak my mind I'll leave you with this. There is no separate know-er, no separate self, which experiences reality. The know-er and the known are the same thing. In other words, the you, which you call "I" is an illusion and doesn't exist. But it's the basis of all our anxieties and fears. Which are based on an illusion of self.

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The ancient Hindu philosophy has said there is nothing we can say about reality, or god. The only thing we can say is what it isn't, because it is beyond words. Because no words or conceptions can describe the ultimate self, ultimate reality. The void.

"God", is beyond description, purpose, point, etc.
 Quoting: Sunyata


As this is true the material had a purpose and a point. This is the best i could define it. As the real knowing is unspeakable and like I said from the start I AM not saying this is the way it is just a thought I have kept within myself for a very long time and just wanted to share. Peace with you
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No, I feel you, thanks for sharing, we're all chatter boxes and I love the speak my mind too.

So to speak my mind I'll leave you with this. There is no separate know-er, no separate self, which experiences reality. The know-er and the known are the same thing. In other words, the you, which you call "I" is an illusion and doesn't exist. But it's the basis of all our anxieties and fears. Which are based on an illusion of self.
 Quoting: Sunyata


Yes this i understand well. But why would the illusion even be if its not purposed from the consciousness that exists. which is truly every one of us even that which we dont want to belive exists like annunaki and pleadians and other universal beings. The illusion is that we are in different forms like me and you talking now I seem to not be you and you seem to not be me. You express differen views different information as do I but really me and you are the illusion for we are both part of the same consciousness.
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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The ancient Hindu philosophy has said there is nothing we can say about reality, or god. The only thing we can say is what it isn't, because it is beyond words. Because no words or conceptions can describe the ultimate self, ultimate reality. The void.

"God", is beyond description, purpose, point, etc.
 Quoting: Sunyata


As this is true the material had a purpose and a point. This is the best i could define it. As the real knowing is unspeakable and like I said from the start I AM not saying this is the way it is just a thought I have kept within myself for a very long time and just wanted to share. Peace with you
 Quoting: lucifer9


No, I feel you, thanks for sharing, we're all chatter boxes and I love the speak my mind too.

So to speak my mind I'll leave you with this. There is no separate know-er, no separate self, which experiences reality. The know-er and the known are the same thing. In other words, the you, which you call "I" is an illusion and doesn't exist. But it's the basis of all our anxieties and fears. Which are based on an illusion of self.
 Quoting: Sunyata


Yes this i understand well. But why would the illusion even be if its not purposed from the consciousness that exists. which is truly every one of us even that which we dont want to belive exists like annunaki and pleadians and other universal beings. The illusion is that we are in different forms like me and you talking now I seem to not be you and you seem to not be me. You express differen views different information as do I but really me and you are the illusion for we are both part of the same consciousness.
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What do you mean by "I"?

There is still the illusion that you are experiencing something happening to you? A separate self as we stated earlier.

What I'm trying to point out is that most identify themselves with the voluntary side of life. They feel the involuntary is something that goes on outside of themselves.

The you, which you call "I" is a convention and no more real than a telephone number, or the equator around the globe. It's imaginary. Yet we associate these conventions with our real self. Then we associate this real self which we hold on to with chronic muscle tension.

So the idea of "I" is an illusion and based on a phony muscle tension. It's useful for us to communicate together but it is mistaken for the real self.
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As this is true the material had a purpose and a point. This is the best i could define it. As the real knowing is unspeakable and like I said from the start I AM not saying this is the way it is just a thought I have kept within myself for a very long time and just wanted to share. Peace with you
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No, I feel you, thanks for sharing, we're all chatter boxes and I love the speak my mind too.

So to speak my mind I'll leave you with this. There is no separate know-er, no separate self, which experiences reality. The know-er and the known are the same thing. In other words, the you, which you call "I" is an illusion and doesn't exist. But it's the basis of all our anxieties and fears. Which are based on an illusion of self.
 Quoting: Sunyata


Yes this i understand well. But why would the illusion even be if its not purposed from the consciousness that exists. which is truly every one of us even that which we dont want to belive exists like annunaki and pleadians and other universal beings. The illusion is that we are in different forms like me and you talking now I seem to not be you and you seem to not be me. You express differen views different information as do I but really me and you are the illusion for we are both part of the same consciousness.
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What do you mean by "I"?

There is still the illusion that you are experiencing something happening to you? A separate self as we stated earlier.

What I'm trying to point out is that most identify themselves with the voluntary side of life. They feel the involuntary is something that goes on outside of themselves.

The you, which you call "I" is a convention and no more real than a telephone number, or the equator around the globe. It's imaginary. Yet we associate these conventions with our real self. Then we associate this real self which we hold on to with chronic muscle tension.

So the idea of "I" is an illusion and based on a phony muscle tension. It's useful for us to communicate together but it is mistaken for the real self.
 Quoting: Sunyata


As I said the me and you are the illusions the I was the first step into illusion but who or whats illusion. To say prime creator was the first magician and the first to experience the veil the veil is the illusion as all are of the same consciousness we are saying the same thing you are just stating different than me this whole conversation is illusion but yet we still express we still communicate. Be well and be in peace.
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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No, I feel you, thanks for sharing, we're all chatter boxes and I love the speak my mind too.

So to speak my mind I'll leave you with this. There is no separate know-er, no separate self, which experiences reality. The know-er and the known are the same thing. In other words, the you, which you call "I" is an illusion and doesn't exist. But it's the basis of all our anxieties and fears. Which are based on an illusion of self.
 Quoting: Sunyata


Yes this i understand well. But why would the illusion even be if its not purposed from the consciousness that exists. which is truly every one of us even that which we dont want to belive exists like annunaki and pleadians and other universal beings. The illusion is that we are in different forms like me and you talking now I seem to not be you and you seem to not be me. You express differen views different information as do I but really me and you are the illusion for we are both part of the same consciousness.
 Quoting: lucifer9


What do you mean by "I"?

There is still the illusion that you are experiencing something happening to you? A separate self as we stated earlier.

What I'm trying to point out is that most identify themselves with the voluntary side of life. They feel the involuntary is something that goes on outside of themselves.

The you, which you call "I" is a convention and no more real than a telephone number, or the equator around the globe. It's imaginary. Yet we associate these conventions with our real self. Then we associate this real self which we hold on to with chronic muscle tension.

So the idea of "I" is an illusion and based on a phony muscle tension. It's useful for us to communicate together but it is mistaken for the real self.
 Quoting: Sunyata


As I said the me and you are the illusions the I was the first step into illusion but who or whats illusion. To say prime creator was the first magician and the first to experience the veil the veil is the illusion as all are of the same consciousness we are saying the same thing you are just stating different than me this whole conversation is illusion but yet we still express we still communicate. Be well and be in peace.
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Well that why they call it the game of hide and seek. The cosmos is a drama of self. It forgets what it is, it gets lost, it gets involved, far far out, because sooner or later, it always wakes up and comes back to itself.
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The only thing I can prove is that I exist. My soul creates my world. My soul creates my perceptions.


Sadly, my soul is filtered through this body so my pereception is off sometimes. But, I still try to see it for what it is.
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nice pic and yes balanced just a thought.
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.
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The only thing I can prove is that I exist. My soul creates my world. My soul creates my perceptions.


Sadly, my soul is filtered through this body so my pereception is off sometimes. But, I still try to see it for what it is.
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yes and it is this self existence that gave rise to my idea but it is just a thought.
Unity is our greatest ally..
For this is the way we will rise out of the ashes that is sure to come...

I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.

7 Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.

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