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The Hobbit film from an Anti-Semitic perspective.

 
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The Hobbit film from an Anti-Semitic perspective.
So does The Hobbit by Peter Jackson contain Anti-Semitic undertones? Lets inspect this more closely.

(May contain spoilers)

First of all we are introduced in the story with a kingdom of a very hard working, highly proficient and productive race of Dwarves (The Kingdoms of White Europe). This kingdom is however sacked and invaded by a Dragon which is enamored with gold (The Serpent race of the Edomite/Khazarian Jews, called serpents by Jesus himself). This dragon takes over the kingdom of the Dwarves and exiles them from their own land (This represents white Europe and its colonies losing power over their own lands as it's happening today).

The dwarves are the left to wandering among the wilderness where we are told that monstrous races of Orcs and Trolls are every time more often descending to ravage causing danger to the Dwarves (this represents the increase of mass immigration from uncivilized races).

We are then told that a white magician (Representing the White racial spirit of struggle) picks a small Hobbit to be the one in charge of helping the Dwarves to regain their kingdom (The hobbit here represents the white individual, apparently powerless but charged with the heaviest task of saving civilization). Even later on Gandalf says specifically that the most important deeds are often the smaller ones done by the average person, which added one upon the other create all goodness on earth (this represents the social dynamics of the ideal white society, where it's the deeds of decency and mutual respect in everyday life that piled upon each other create its harmonious, desirable existence).

In one scene we see that the powers that be(representing the secret societies of the world), Consisting of Saruman, Gandalf, Elrond and Galadriel, sit down to discuss the fate of the dwarves. We also see that Saruman vehemently pronounces himself against Gandalf's plan to help the Dwarves regain their kingdom. Saruman here represents the power of the secret societies(Illuminists) in determining what goes on and how they are against White European hegemony in the world. It's possible that Saruman could represent the Rothschild family.

I thought this while I was taking a shower and honestly I may be grasping at straws. Besides I am not a Tolkien geek so I may not be considering all the possibilities. If someone has something to add please do.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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By the way, one incongruent fact here is that Gandalf would have to be both the White spirit of racial struggle but also a member of a secret society in the reunion on the land of the Elves. But this is not so, as there doesn't appear to be any pro white secret society that wields any power anymore. If this wasn't the case and there's indeed such thing, then Gandalf would take two roles.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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I think you're jealous...sunnysmilepromisedland

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
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How about some Truth in Adveristing:

Gen 10:21-31 KJV
(21) Unto Shem also, the father of all the children of Eber, the brother of Japheth the elder, even to him were children born.
(22) The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram.
(23) And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
(24) And Arphaxad begat Salah; and Salah begat Eber.
(25) And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
(26) And Joktan begat Almodad, and Sheleph, and Hazarmaveth, and Jerah,
(27) And Hadoram, and Uzal, and Diklah,
(28) And Obal, and Abimael, and Sheba,
(29) And Ophir, and Havilah, and Jobab: all these were the sons of Joktan.
(30) And their dwelling was from Mesha, as thou goest unto Sephar a mount of the east.
(31) These are the sons of Shem, after their families, after their tongues, in their lands, after their nations.

These all are Shemitic, a.k.a. Semitic. `Eber is only one line.

All these as Semitic. So, I keep wondering why all these other people next to never get even mentioned in "Anti-Semitic" discussions, or for that matter what gets passed on as Snake-Oil of "Semetic". Don't you?

How about a great call and cry for Truth In Labeling, folks.

What 'those' who are always calling out in complaint, "Those Anti-Semitics", are themselves basically really Israelites and Jews.

Isn't time we get a bit clearer on Truth in Labeling?

I think it so, in fact I demand it be so.
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But this is not so, as there doesn't appear to be any pro white secret society that wields any power anymore.
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There is but it's focus is not power (which is the obsession of the Power Over Others faction a.k.a Poo) but freedom.
And it's not particularly interested in skin colour either.
It's untouchable, because it's "Kilt", but in the next three months there will be revealing events in Great (LOL) Britain involving the Vatican.
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I think you're jealous...:sunnysmile::promisedland:

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
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Give a Juu a hands span & He'll want your entire arm.
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I think you're jealous...:sunnysmile::promisedland:

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
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Honestly, why the fuck do you always post pictures of 15 year South East Asians in bikinis? And what's with your weird forum avatar? And why do you you have another nickname than you did a few years back?
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Good Post OP. Tolkien knew the prehistory of the white race was lost, except in fragmentary form, due to the Roman conquest and Judification of white lands. So he researched what remained and wrote The Lord of the Rings as a result. That's why LOTR is so popular with white people. It resonates with their racial consciousness.

And leave it to the 60 y.o. Jewish perv to post his pedophile pictures on this thread. It's what they do, seek to corrupt any semblance of whiteness. It just shows you are on the right track.
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I think you're jealous...:sunnysmile::promisedland:

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
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Couldn't resist eh?

You nonce shit-stain.
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I think you're jealous...:sunnysmile::promisedland:

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
 Quoting: Judethz


Honestly, why the fuck do you always post pictures of 15 year South East Asians in bikinis? And what's with your weird forum avatar? And why do you you have another nickname than you did a few years back?
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It's psychological warfare. By posting the pretty pictures, you are more receptive to his message, you wish to internalize and protect it, just as you would wish to protect a vulnerable young woman.

As if somehow, by posting that picture, the hideous messages he posts will be WELCOMED. Or at least that's how it works in theory.
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I think you're jealous...sunnysmilepromisedland

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
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hhhmmmmm
how about

BITCH

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Judethz is a whore, she just does that to provoke. so when you guys react to her little whore pictures and zionist bullshit,she is happy. marketing for shit

stop paying attention to her and her littles whores...then it has no point
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Judethz is a whore, she just does that to provoke. so when you guys react to her little whore pictures and zionist bullshit,she is happy. marketing for shit

stop paying attention to her and her littles whores...then it has no point
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Judethz is actually an Old Zionist Jewish Man. Cannot believe you didn't know this.
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I think you're jealous...sunnysmilepromisedland

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
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I am not, I've already told you I am the biggest Zionist of all, I wish Jews to have Israel and I wish ALL of them to go live there and live happily forever after AS LONG as they leave us alone.

If Jews were any smart they'd take this chance right now to create a good destiny for their people, but they're too ambitious so they will pull the cord until it breaks and hits them in the face.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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I believe you are beside the point
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I believe you are beside the point
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That is entirely possible.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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I think you're jealous...:sunnysmile::promisedland:

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
 Quoting: Judethz


Honestly, why the fuck do you always post pictures of 15 year South East Asians in bikinis? And what's with your weird forum avatar? And why do you you have another nickname than you did a few years back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900046


It's psychological warfare. By posting the pretty pictures, you are more receptive to his message, you wish to internalize and protect it, just as you would wish to protect a vulnerable young woman.

As if somehow, by posting that picture, the hideous messages he posts will be WELCOMED. Or at least that's how it works in theory.
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Not really though, the pictures usually keep from reading his posts. To me it just seems like some odd sort of compulsive behavior.
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I think you're jealous...sunnysmilepromisedland

Gen 28:14 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed.
 Quoting: Judethz


Honestly, why the fuck do you always post pictures of 15 year South East Asians in bikinis? And what's with your weird forum avatar? And why do you you have another nickname than you did a few years back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900046


It's psychological warfare. By posting the pretty pictures, you are more receptive to his message, you wish to internalize and protect it, just as you would wish to protect a vulnerable young woman.

As if somehow, by posting that picture, the hideous messages he posts will be WELCOMED. Or at least that's how it works in theory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30713276


Not really though, the pictures usually keep from reading his posts. To me it just seems like some odd sort of compulsive behavior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900046


She's a tard, have you seen the Christian comics she shares sometimes? They're not even suitable for retards, maybe a totally mentally disabled person could take that shit seriously, but even that's dubious. Just another evangelical Zionist pester, probably paid to shill by the cybernetic Zionist forces.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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OP lets say everything you said is true. But lets also say that no one knows or even thinks that while watching the movie, and they just enjoy the movie walking away looking forward to the next one, and Happy.



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OP lets say everything you said is true. But lets also say that no one knows or even thinks that while watching the movie, and they just enjoy the movie walking away looking forward to the next one, and Happy.



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Well some poster above said that LOTR saga has something that resonates with white Europeans. I honestly haven't done much research on Tolkien, but I sense there might be some truth to that.
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

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She's a tard,
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tardis
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She's a tard,
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:tardis:
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So get in your Tardis and leave already.
You can head back to the Planet of The Slutty Young Chicks can't you?
Or were you deported.
Oy vey!
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Honestly, why the fuck do you always post pictures of 15 year South East Asians in bikinis? And what's with your weird forum avatar? And why do you you have another nickname than you did a few years back?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900046


It's psychological warfare. By posting the pretty pictures, you are more receptive to his message, you wish to internalize and protect it, just as you would wish to protect a vulnerable young woman.

As if somehow, by posting that picture, the hideous messages he posts will be WELCOMED. Or at least that's how it works in theory.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30713276


Not really though, the pictures usually keep from reading his posts. To me it just seems like some odd sort of compulsive behavior.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30900046


She's a tard, have you seen the Christian comics she shares sometimes? They're not even suitable for retards, maybe a totally mentally disabled person could take that shit seriously, but even that's dubious. Just another evangelical Zionist pester, probably paid to shill by the cybernetic Zionist forces.
 Quoting: Manu-Koelbren


Huh, I always assumed that he/she was a man deluding himself into thinking that he has a vag. Which, admittedly makes an odd blend with his religious zealousness.
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OP lets say everything you said is true. But lets also say that no one knows or even thinks that while watching the movie, and they just enjoy the movie walking away looking forward to the next one, and Happy.



coffee4
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Well some poster above said that LOTR saga has something that resonates with white Europeans. I honestly haven't done much research on Tolkien, but I sense there might be some truth to that.
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It's a fairy tale and set in a wild European type scenery. It has all the things that would fit in a European fantasy world of struggle and adventure. No surprise.

Tolkein drew on all sorts of old archetypes and the story has a pattern which could generally fit many situations.

You can assign identities to the various characters in line with with your theory, but I don't know if it's valid. I don't know if it was intentional... and who do we blame? The writer or the movie maker?
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OP lets say everything you said is true. But lets also say that no one knows or even thinks that while watching the movie, and they just enjoy the movie walking away looking forward to the next one, and Happy.



coffee4
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Well some poster above said that LOTR saga has something that resonates with white Europeans. I honestly haven't done much research on Tolkien, but I sense there might be some truth to that.
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[link to www.nationalgeographic.com]
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or this one

[link to www.tolkien-online.com]
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there's that word again - barrow
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The Dwarven race obviously represent the Jews. Trying to reclaim their ancestral homeland.

The Dwarves are searching for the Arkenstone (Ark of the Covenant).

The Dragon attack represents the attack of the Roman Empire on Jews and the scattering of the chosen people.

Gandalf represents the British, who help the Israelites reclaim their homeland.

The 13 Dwarves represent the 12 tribes of Israel (with Ephraim and Manasseh split into 2 tribes).

The Lonely Mountain is Mount Zion or Jerusalem - Erebor.
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She's a tard,
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tardis
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So get in your Tardis and leave already.
You can head back to the Planet of The Nice Young Chicks can't you?
Or were you deported.
Oy vey!
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flo6fuji We need some more NZ passports to get in, could we borrow yours for a few weeks.
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The Dwarven race obviously represent the Jews. Trying to reclaim their ancestral homeland.

The Dwarves are searching for the Arkenstone (Ark of the Covenant).

The Dragon attack represents the attack of the Roman Empire on Jews and the scattering of the chosen people.

Gandalf represents the British, who help the Israelites reclaim their homeland.

The 13 Dwarves represent the 12 tribes of Israel (with Ephraim and Manasseh split into 2 tribes).

The Lonely Mountain is Mount Zion or Jerusalem - Erebor.
 Quoting: dog tucker 3767410


And the Hobbit is the Messiah? Oh but the Jews would kill him because he's not a warrior messiah cruise

Valid take anyhow, I had actually thought about that. The only problem with your thesis is that the Jews of today are not the Israelite tribes. wink
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz
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She's a tard,
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tardis
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So get in your Tardis and leave already.
You can head back to the Planet of The Nice Young Chicks can't you?
Or were you deported.
Oy vey!
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flo6fuji We need some more NZ passports to get in, could we borrow yours for a few weeks.
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yeahsure
"White privilege" is the liberal religion's version of Original Sin: you are born guilty, and you carry that burden of guilt all your life, and the only way to escape eternal damnation is for white people confess their sin, to bow, kneel and believe the dogma of the Church of Liberalism, genuflect at its altars, honor its saints, fill the collection plate, and never, ever doubt.

-- Dixon Diaz

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