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all the black rifles are gone - ETA for restocking 4 months ? Will this put America Back to work ?
so reasonably speaking
all the ARs all the AKs and most semi auto anything (except 22) is sold out

sold out in stores
sold at at warehouses and at the distributors
most stores have waiting lists and are back ordered up the ying yang for at least 4 months

but why and how do they know 4 months ?
Are the factories and manufacturers manufacturing ?
of course most people are on Christmas /new years break

there is no shortage of aluminum and steel is there ?
Could this be a way for American Manufacturing sector to make a comeback ?
Gun makers should be Hiring Craftsmen and qualified machinists, metallurgists and other workers right ?

your opinion ?
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sounds like a business opportunity
no not price gouging
manufacturing that which there is a shortage of
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sounds like a business opportunity
no not price gouging
manufacturing that which there is a shortage of
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lmao

you think this was not the agenda all along

i have said it many times in countless threads.
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Re: all the black rifles are gone - ETA for restocking 4 months ? Will this put America Back to work ?
so reasonably speaking
all the ARs all the AKs and most semi auto anything (except 22) is sold out

sold out in stores
sold at at warehouses and at the distributors
most stores have waiting lists and are back ordered up the ying yang for at least 4 months

but why and how do they know 4 months ?
Are the factories and manufacturers manufacturing ?
of course most people are on Christmas /new years break

there is no shortage of aluminum and steel is there ?
Could this be a way for American Manufacturing sector to make a comeback ?
Gun makers should be Hiring Craftsmen and qualified machinists, metallurgists and other workers right ?

your opinion ?
hiding
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They know because they have every rivet and sheet of steel accounted for. They can only make X number of firearms over N amount of time. Expansion of manufacturing facilities takes time. Warehouses must be built, machinery ordered and put in place, etc.

I tell you what though man they sold out like hotcakes didn't they?

chuckle

I think "the American public" has spoken in regards to what it thinks about gun control.

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sounds like a business opportunity
no not price gouging
manufacturing that which there is a shortage of
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lmao

you think this was not the agenda all along

i have said it many times in countless threads.
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While you may be right, you could expand your theory a bit.

Lots of agendas, and everyone is armed.

Looks like a storm is brewing up, and you're a sick fuck for applauding it.
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Also, with the possible chance of new laws and regulations. Why would you expand when you could be shut down due to the political bs. Its just gonna be a while til the catch up happens, if it does.
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sounds like a business opportunity
no not price gouging
manufacturing that which there is a shortage of
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lmao

you think this was not the agenda all along

i have said it many times in countless threads.
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While you may be right, you could expand your theory a bit.

Lots of agendas, and everyone is armed.

Looks like a storm is brewing up, and you're a sick fuck for applauding it.
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perhaps you're a sick fuck for having some kind of sick yearning for doom
Everybody being armed is a good thing
It is the American Way no matter how the liberals have brainwashed you

This is capitalism and open market at it's best
When something is in demand the price goes up and it's an opportunity for new manufacturers and suppliers

we're talking pieces of metal and wood here if to you means some kind of sick exciting boggey man nonsense you should get your mental health checked
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if and it's a very big IF a particular type or design actually gets forbidden than it is an opportunity for smart people to come up with a replacement, new design , new type , new technique

it is the American Way
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some states already disallowed semi autos for hunting so pump actions have stepped in and replaced the void

just an example
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sounds like a business opportunity
no not price gouging
manufacturing that which there is a shortage of
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lmao

you think this was not the agenda all along

i have said it many times in countless threads.
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While you may be right, you could expand your theory a bit.

Lots of agendas, and everyone is armed.

Looks like a storm is brewing up, and you're a sick fuck for applauding it.
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perhaps you're a sick fuck for having some kind of sick yearning for doom
Everybody being armed is a good thing
It is the American Way no matter how the liberals have brainwashed you

This is capitalism and open market at it's best
When something is in demand the price goes up and it's an opportunity for new manufacturers and suppliers

we're talking pieces of metal and wood here if to you means some kind of sick exciting boggey man nonsense you should get your mental health checked
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wtf

lmao

Did you fail reading comprehension or quote the wrong guy?
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I think it will take several months for supply to catch up to demand with the rifles themselves.

One thing you might consider is police auctions. They have auctions from evidence and property to raise money at least around here. can't say I've been to more than a couple and don't know if they sell firearms or not.

The ammo shortage may be a different problem all together. We are competing with the Feds who ordered tons of ammo
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Did you fail reading comprehension or quote the wrong guy?
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what difference does it make who quoted who unless you're a detractor
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Re: all the black rifles are gone - ETA for restocking 4 months ? Will this put America Back to work ?
I think it will take several months for supply to catch up to demand with the rifles themselves.

One thing you might consider is police auctions. They have auctions from evidence and property to raise money at least around here. can't say I've been to more than a couple and don't know if they sell firearms or not.

The ammo shortage may be a different problem all together. We are competing with the Feds who ordered tons of ammo
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I don't need any more rifles or ammo
I'm just wondering where all this is going and who's making the killing $$$$ here and who's pulling the strings
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double in price. They make more not meeting full demand. They could double to two or three shifts in the factory. Been cutting back for years of recession. Add employees, not a big issue. I would find it difficult to believe they need to build new production they have more than likely been running way under capacity. Probably had warehouses of them, now sold out. Add a shift.

new gun laws, Obama laws, drives up prices. Makes collectors wealthy, gun dealers wealthy. More money per gun, higher percentage of profit. Everyone makes more money. speaking of which, I have a few, gone up in value considerably. They put in another ban they will probably triple in value again.
Gun haters, much gun owners and dealers money. Manufacturers money. And joe consumer will pay three times the normal price, after all, it was on tv and is banned in fourty states..
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Did you fail reading comprehension or quote the wrong guy?
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what difference does it make who quoted who unless you're a detractor
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It helps your credibility if you can maintain the conversation. Too many people here are more eager to type than they are to read.

Protip: Look at my user id, then track it through the thread and re-read my comments. It's not that hard. You'll get used to it in no time.

If you're still somehow confused about my stance on the 2nd Amendment, feel free to plug my number into the "Search by User ID" under 'Advanced Search'.
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I think it will take several months for supply to catch up to demand with the rifles themselves.

One thing you might consider is police auctions. They have auctions from evidence and property to raise money at least around here. can't say I've been to more than a couple and don't know if they sell firearms or not.

The ammo shortage may be a different problem all together. We are competing with the Feds who ordered tons of ammo
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I don't need any more rifles or ammo
I'm just wondering where all this is going and who's making the killing $$$$ here and who's pulling the strings
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its a gun lobby bail out. I am acquainted with firearms dealers. They love it. Drives up prices, drives up their profits. Everyone in the industry loves it. They don't want firearms banned altogether, but the threat of banning, laws, publicity drives up prices and profits.
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oh wow, we just got pinned !~!

muchas graciashf

let's figure this thing out

What's the manufacturing capacity for ARs in US

seems there are all these small companies making lowers and uppers etc...
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I think it will take several months for supply to catch up to demand with the rifles themselves.

One thing you might consider is police auctions. They have auctions from evidence and property to raise money at least around here. can't say I've been to more than a couple and don't know if they sell firearms or not.

The ammo shortage may be a different problem all together. We are competing with the Feds who ordered tons of ammo
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I don't need any more rifles or ammo
I'm just wondering where all this is going and who's making the killing $$$$ here and who's pulling the strings
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its a gun lobby bail out. I am acquainted with firearms dealers. They love it. Drives up prices, drives up their profits. Everyone in the industry loves it. They don't want firearms banned altogether, but the threat of banning, laws, publicity drives up prices and profits.
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No doubt! And a good point.

Still, we have to remember that there is a group that is in power that would love nothing more than to take our firearms.
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Re: all the black rifles are gone - ETA for restocking 4 months ? Will this put America Back to work ?
I think it will take several months for supply to catch up to demand with the rifles themselves.

One thing you might consider is police auctions. They have auctions from evidence and property to raise money at least around here. can't say I've been to more than a couple and don't know if they sell firearms or not.

The ammo shortage may be a different problem all together. We are competing with the Feds who ordered tons of ammo
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I don't need any more rifles or ammo
I'm just wondering where all this is going and who's making the killing $$$$ here and who's pulling the strings
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its a gun lobby bail out. I am acquainted with firearms dealers. They love it. Drives up prices, drives up their profits. Everyone in the industry loves it. They don't want firearms banned altogether, but the threat of banning, laws, publicity drives up prices and profits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30903996


No doubt! And a good point.

Still, we have to remember that there is a group that is in power that would love nothing more than to take our firearms.
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why would obongo bail out gun lobby
what did they do to him to warrant that
please explain
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A couple of years ago the same was true for ammo. Then the shelfs were full again. The same will happen by summer. In the mean time save your money.
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I don't need any more rifles or ammo
I'm just wondering where all this is going and who's making the killing $$$$ here and who's pulling the strings
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30906627


its a gun lobby bail out. I am acquainted with firearms dealers. They love it. Drives up prices, drives up their profits. Everyone in the industry loves it. They don't want firearms banned altogether, but the threat of banning, laws, publicity drives up prices and profits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30903996


No doubt! And a good point.

Still, we have to remember that there is a group that is in power that would love nothing more than to take our firearms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8397139


why would obongo bail out gun lobby
what did they do to him to warrant that
please explain
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bigger question is why wouldn't he, or anyone in Washington want to. nra is just a small percentage of the funding that hits Washington every year. Don't forget manufacturers. Other thing to consider is besides the unemployment rate and economic issues, we are coming down from a war. Which means we are actually lowering production capacity of ammo and weapons. I wonder if this is also part of the problems. Coming off high production from the wars, combined with the expected military cuts in the fiscal cliff or whatever agreed upon budgets. The problem isn't a lack of capacity but we have TOO MUCH capacity to manufacturer and are lowering production as we come down from high output war manufacturing. Reminds me of when the u.s was trying to find something for weapons manufacturers to do during peacetime so started having them make weather satellites and giving them b.s. projects to keep their revenues up.
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if you want to know why there is a shortage, there has been a confidential memo sent to major manufacturers and dealers. Asking for a reduction in inventory until firearm legislation is passed.

The individual companies were warned that if they did not comply they would possibly be harmed financially from the upcoming legislation and possible confiscation of inventory. Everyone is in wait and see mode on how they are going to attack the second amendment.

The manufacturers are caving in before anything is even introduced.
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Ruger amd Smith& Wesson made weather satellites ?

LOL !
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if you want to know why there is a shortage, there has been a confidential memo sent to major manufacturers and dealers. Asking for a reduction in inventory until firearm legislation is passed.

The individual companies were warned that if they did not comply they would possibly be harmed financially from the upcoming legislation and possible confiscation of inventory. Everyone is in wait and see mode on how they are going to attack the second amendment.

The manufacturers are caving in before anything is even introduced.
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can someone post the secret memo , please @!
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if you want to know why there is a shortage, there has been a confidential memo sent to major manufacturers and dealers. Asking for a reduction in inventory until firearm legislation is passed.

The individual companies were warned that if they did not comply they would possibly be harmed financially from the upcoming legislation and possible confiscation of inventory. Everyone is in wait and see mode on how they are going to attack the second amendment.

The manufacturers are caving in before anything is even introduced.
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can someone post the secret memo , please @!
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I'll look for it, but if I remember correctly it was only a thread here at GLP. I read it but couldn't find verification. Of course, it wouldn't surprise me if it were true.

It had to do with Obama sitting down with the arms mfg execs and telling them they had three more years left to get all the profit they could.
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double in price. They make more not meeting full demand. They could double to two or three shifts in the factory. Been cutting back for years of recession. Add employees, not a big issue. I would find it difficult to believe they need to build new production they have more than likely been running way under capacity. Probably had warehouses of them, now sold out. Add a shift.

new gun laws, Obama laws, drives up prices. Makes collectors wealthy, gun dealers wealthy. More money per gun, higher percentage of profit. Everyone makes more money. speaking of which, I have a few, gone up in value considerably. They put in another ban they will probably triple in value again.
Gun haters, much gun owners and dealers money. Manufacturers money. And joe consumer will pay three times the normal price, after all, it was on tv and is banned in fourty states..
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Gun sales have been astronomical for several years. Nobody in the industry is limiting their production. In 2010, AR15s were the cheapest they had been in years, because the panic buying had stopped after the 2008 election, and people were unloading their extras so they could put gas in their cars and food on the table.
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if you want to know why there is a shortage, there has been a confidential memo sent to major manufacturers and dealers. Asking for a reduction in inventory until firearm legislation is passed.

The individual companies were warned that if they did not comply they would possibly be harmed financially from the upcoming legislation and possible confiscation of inventory. Everyone is in wait and see mode on how they are going to attack the second amendment.

The manufacturers are caving in before anything is even introduced.
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not sure if this is true but I find it hard to believe.
a. passing legislation through the house of reps is a non starter.
b. I don't think president Obama has the public support for firearms legislation.
c. The government makes a lot of money in tax revenue on guns and ammo sales.
d. see my post above on their issues with demand slowing down so fast from the wars slowing
e. The u.s. is more than likely using this to divert attentions from elsewhere. so while you are looking at this b.s. they are doing something for real you haven't caught on to because you are looking at this.
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if you want to know why there is a shortage, there has been a confidential memo sent to major manufacturers and dealers. Asking for a reduction in inventory until firearm legislation is passed.

The individual companies were warned that if they did not comply they would possibly be harmed financially from the upcoming legislation and possible confiscation of inventory. Everyone is in wait and see mode on how they are going to attack the second amendment.

The manufacturers are caving in before anything is even introduced.
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not sure if this is true but I find it hard to believe.
a. passing legislation through the house of reps is a non starter.
b. I don't think president Obama has the public support for firearms legislation.
c. The government makes a lot of money in tax revenue on guns and ammo sales.
d. see my post above on their issues with demand slowing down so fast from the wars slowing
e. The u.s. is more than likely using this to divert attentions from elsewhere. so while you are looking at this b.s. they are doing something for real you haven't caught on to because you are looking at this.
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Great points.

Let's keep our eyes peeled though folks.

God only knows what these evil pricks have planned for us next.

I don't trust 'em.
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yeah , did the federal reserve 99 year charter get extended ?
who's responsible for benghazi ?
what happened with fast and furious and fiscal cliff ?

oh wait, all the guns are sold out !
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No link! Who said this ? InSoFlo a shitty bushy,normal cost $850. Is going for $3,000.


Fools buying it still.


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