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Just to further elaborate too....think about it people....

If we were to believe this scenario in it's entirety then you are talking about something akin to "THE ROAD" / "MAD MAX" scenarios.

Impossible to do in 4 years.
To do so requires a 100% collapse of the USA dollar like the Weimar Republic.
Sure....the Dollar is headed down for the next decade....but AGAIN....the Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt unless they want to destroy themselves as well.
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why do you think they are stockpiling gold.
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Of course ANYONE sane is.
...and other precious metals.
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i'm not the one that said they would destroy themselves
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I don't follow. 1dunno1
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oblong hanging in the back, nothing to say?
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What is there to say we will just have to wait and see and be prepared for the worst.
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RV post, those dogs cannot hunt
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do you still have your nose ring and neck collar?
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IM in a hurry and dont have enough time to summary but ill give you some points.

-Another shooting to push gun control
-Gun confiscation off all guns
-Fiscal cliff is planed to set in motion of police state
-Suspension of 1st and 2nd amendment
-List to identify threats to agenda
-Collapse of dollar
-American split up into economic sections Denver is the capitol it seems like
-Medicare used to identify gun owners
[link to www.canadafreepress.com]
 Quoting: OhlongJohnson


I read this a few days ago.
Not buying it.
It touches on EVERY doom point possible. crazy

These Commies in office may have all these things set as their goals but they won't reach them all in 4 years.

One key problem?
The Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt.
That would screw them over almost as much as us.

Many other holes in this too.

spock
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Just to further elaborate too....think about it people....

If we were to believe this scenario in it's entirety then you are talking about something akin to "THE ROAD" / "MAD MAX" scenarios.

Impossible to do in 4 years.
To do so requires a 100% collapse of the USA dollar like the Weimar Republic.
Sure....the Dollar is headed down for the next decade....but AGAIN....the Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt unless they want to destroy themselves as well.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


If the Chinese stopped buying our worthless debt, which will never be repaid, they would suffer in the short term and be much better off in the medium and long term. The Chinese would consume more of what they produce instead of sending their products to America, a country that exports only paper back to China instead of real products. The Yuan would rise greatly in value and Chinese people would see their cost of living fall and would be able to consume a lot more of what they make.

My suspicion is that this gun talk will quiet down in another month or so, maybe an assault weapons ban is passed and then things will be back to normal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a story about a year from now about some kid who gets arrested and was planning on replicating an incident like Sandy Hook with his parents guns. Then the calls for more gun bans will come about from useful idiots.

With regard to the Fiscal cliff, what are they talking about? Cutting $1.2 trillion over ten years? That's our current budget deficit. So, basically, their plan is to run a deficit only nine out of ten years. Remember that our on book debt is currently $16.4 trillion and for every 1% that's added to the interest on our national debt costs the US $164 billion. Don't forget about the $122 trillion in unfunded liabilities. America will default by declaration or through issuing worthless money (Bernanke is already monetizing a little over $1 trillion a year with his QE program). It is a mathematical certainty. America just won't suffer any consequences until the rest of the world learns how to do some basic math and figures out the US isn't ever going to repay them. Got precious metals and other shit to barter with?
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oblong hanging in the back, nothing to say?
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What is there to say we will just have to wait and see and be prepared for the worst.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30457268


What is laid out in that interview is THE WORST OF THE WORST possible scenarios.


If we were to believe all that then the real question becomes....
DO YOU WANT TO EXIST IN A WORLD LIKE THAT???

Again, it's a cross between RISE OF THE MACHINES, THE ROAD and MAD MAX all rolled into one.


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IM in a hurry and dont have enough time to summary but ill give you some points.

-Another shooting to push gun control
-Gun confiscation off all guns
-Fiscal cliff is planed to set in motion of police state
-Suspension of 1st and 2nd amendment
-List to identify threats to agenda
-Collapse of dollar
-American split up into economic sections Denver is the capitol it seems like
-Medicare used to identify gun owners
[link to www.canadafreepress.com]
 Quoting: OhlongJohnson


I read this a few days ago.
Not buying it.
It touches on EVERY doom point possible. crazy

These Commies in office may have all these things set as their goals but they won't reach them all in 4 years.

One key problem?
The Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt.
That would screw them over almost as much as us.

Many other holes in this too.

spock
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Just to further elaborate too....think about it people....

If we were to believe this scenario in it's entirety then you are talking about something akin to "THE ROAD" / "MAD MAX" scenarios.

Impossible to do in 4 years.
To do so requires a 100% collapse of the USA dollar like the Weimar Republic.
Sure....the Dollar is headed down for the next decade....but AGAIN....the Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt unless they want to destroy themselves as well.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


If the Chinese stopped buying our worthless debt, which will never be repaid, they would suffer in the short term and be much better off in the medium and long term. The Chinese would consume more of what they produce instead of sending their products to America, a country that exports only paper back to China instead of real products. The Yuan would rise greatly in value and Chinese people would see their cost of living fall and would be able to consume a lot more of what they make.

My suspicion is that this gun talk will quiet down in another month or so, maybe an assault weapons ban is passed and then things will be back to normal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a story about a year from now about some kid who gets arrested and was planning on replicating an incident like Sandy Hook with his parents guns. Then the calls for more gun bans will come about from useful idiots.

With regard to the Fiscal cliff, what are they talking about? Cutting $1.2 trillion over ten years? That's our current budget deficit. So, basically, their plan is to run a deficit only nine out of ten years. Remember that our on book debt is currently $16.4 trillion and for every 1% that's added to the interest on our national debt costs the US $164 billion. Don't forget about the $122 trillion in unfunded liabilities. America will default by declaration or through issuing worthless money (Bernanke is already monetizing a little over $1 trillion a year with his QE program). It is a mathematical certainty. America just won't suffer any consequences until the rest of the world learns how to do some basic math and figures out the US isn't ever going to repay them. Got precious metals and other shit to barter with?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


The Chinese MAY be better off as you suggest, but they will not do it since the debt is, in fact, currently being repaid with printed money.
As you accurately note though as well.....ONLY when USA debt holders get out their slide rules and calculators and suddenly lose faith in The Dollar will Weimar 2.0 begin.

When / if that happens has too many variables yet to determine outcome....which is why that alleged interview seem quite "invented". grnrolleyes

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I wonder if parts of this country will be given to China to pay off the debt. Just a couple of days ago China was demanding that all US citizens be disarmed.
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I wonder if parts of this country will be given to China to pay off the debt. Just a couple of days ago China was demanding that all US citizens be disarmed.
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You can't give away parts of a sovereign nation....no nation ever has either. There could be a war over it though.
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I read this a few days ago.
Not buying it.
It touches on EVERY doom point possible. crazy

These Commies in office may have all these things set as their goals but they won't reach them all in 4 years.

One key problem?
The Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt.
That would screw them over almost as much as us.

Many other holes in this too.

spock
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Just to further elaborate too....think about it people....

If we were to believe this scenario in it's entirety then you are talking about something akin to "THE ROAD" / "MAD MAX" scenarios.

Impossible to do in 4 years.
To do so requires a 100% collapse of the USA dollar like the Weimar Republic.
Sure....the Dollar is headed down for the next decade....but AGAIN....the Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt unless they want to destroy themselves as well.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


If the Chinese stopped buying our worthless debt, which will never be repaid, they would suffer in the short term and be much better off in the medium and long term. The Chinese would consume more of what they produce instead of sending their products to America, a country that exports only paper back to China instead of real products. The Yuan would rise greatly in value and Chinese people would see their cost of living fall and would be able to consume a lot more of what they make.

My suspicion is that this gun talk will quiet down in another month or so, maybe an assault weapons ban is passed and then things will be back to normal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a story about a year from now about some kid who gets arrested and was planning on replicating an incident like Sandy Hook with his parents guns. Then the calls for more gun bans will come about from useful idiots.

With regard to the Fiscal cliff, what are they talking about? Cutting $1.2 trillion over ten years? That's our current budget deficit. So, basically, their plan is to run a deficit only nine out of ten years. Remember that our on book debt is currently $16.4 trillion and for every 1% that's added to the interest on our national debt costs the US $164 billion. Don't forget about the $122 trillion in unfunded liabilities. America will default by declaration or through issuing worthless money (Bernanke is already monetizing a little over $1 trillion a year with his QE program). It is a mathematical certainty. America just won't suffer any consequences until the rest of the world learns how to do some basic math and figures out the US isn't ever going to repay them. Got precious metals and other shit to barter with?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


The Chinese MAY be better off as you suggest, but they will not do it since the debt is, in fact, currently being repaid with printed money.
As you accurately note though as well.....ONLY when USA debt holders get out their slide rules and calculators and suddenly lose faith in The Dollar will Weimar 2.0 begin.

When / if that happens has too many variables yet to determine outcome....which is why that alleged interview seem quite "invented". :grnrolleyes:
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Since China stopped 'buying our debt' a year ago, and has taken many steps to extricate itself from the us, including making arrangements to purchase oil from nations on the usa's black list, and doing so in gold, I have to conclude that BOTH of you are paid shills. Seriously, anyone reading this shite, please do yourselves a favor and use your search engine. These guys are just furthering the talking points of the msm, which are bought and paid for.
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because gas will be rationed or unavailable.


LOL
So no economy - no nothing? People will eat... idk .... grass?

Nothing against doomtards, but you guys are... not very smart.

This thread is full of fail.



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Just to further elaborate too....think about it people....

If we were to believe this scenario in it's entirety then you are talking about something akin to "THE ROAD" / "MAD MAX" scenarios.

Impossible to do in 4 years.
To do so requires a 100% collapse of the USA dollar like the Weimar Republic.
Sure....the Dollar is headed down for the next decade....but AGAIN....the Chinese are not going to stop buying our debt unless they want to destroy themselves as well.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


If the Chinese stopped buying our worthless debt, which will never be repaid, they would suffer in the short term and be much better off in the medium and long term. The Chinese would consume more of what they produce instead of sending their products to America, a country that exports only paper back to China instead of real products. The Yuan would rise greatly in value and Chinese people would see their cost of living fall and would be able to consume a lot more of what they make.

My suspicion is that this gun talk will quiet down in another month or so, maybe an assault weapons ban is passed and then things will be back to normal. I wouldn't be surprised to see a story about a year from now about some kid who gets arrested and was planning on replicating an incident like Sandy Hook with his parents guns. Then the calls for more gun bans will come about from useful idiots.

With regard to the Fiscal cliff, what are they talking about? Cutting $1.2 trillion over ten years? That's our current budget deficit. So, basically, their plan is to run a deficit only nine out of ten years. Remember that our on book debt is currently $16.4 trillion and for every 1% that's added to the interest on our national debt costs the US $164 billion. Don't forget about the $122 trillion in unfunded liabilities. America will default by declaration or through issuing worthless money (Bernanke is already monetizing a little over $1 trillion a year with his QE program). It is a mathematical certainty. America just won't suffer any consequences until the rest of the world learns how to do some basic math and figures out the US isn't ever going to repay them. Got precious metals and other shit to barter with?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


The Chinese MAY be better off as you suggest, but they will not do it since the debt is, in fact, currently being repaid with printed money.
As you accurately note though as well.....ONLY when USA debt holders get out their slide rules and calculators and suddenly lose faith in The Dollar will Weimar 2.0 begin.

When / if that happens has too many variables yet to determine outcome....which is why that alleged interview seem quite "invented". grnrolleyes
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Since China stopped 'buying our debt' a year ago, and has taken many steps to extricate itself from the us, including making arrangements to purchase oil from nations on the usa's black list, and doing so in gold, I have to conclude that BOTH of you are paid shills. Seriously, anyone reading this shite, please do yourselves a favor and use your search engine. These guys are just furthering the talking points of the msm, which are bought and paid for.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30829812


You are truly an idiot.
How about just have a nice STFU cookie and go play in your kiddie sandbox. mmmmm kay???
This discussion is for the big boys.


China Resumed Treasury Buys in July as Trade Surplus Widened
[link to www.businessweek.com]


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because gas will be rationed or unavailable.


LOL
So no economy - no nothing? People will eat... idk .... grass?

Nothing against doomtards, but you guys are... not very smart.

This thread is full of fail.



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And here you are, lapping it up, right along with the rest of us.

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because gas will be rationed or unavailable.


LOL
So no economy - no nothing? People will eat... idk .... grass?

Nothing against doomtards, but you guys are... not very smart.

This thread is full of fail.



bsflag
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Of course supplies will be rationed in the post-collapse USA police state. Look what happened after hurricane Sandy. They wouldn't let gas stations "gouge" their customers so the supply shortages lasted much longer than they had to. The people that needed gas the most couldn't get gas because of people who didn't really need gas wanted to buy gas at the artificially low fixed price because they weren't sure when gas was going to be plentiful again. If people thought the aftermath of hurricane Sandy in the northeast was bad, wait until the whole country experiences supply shortages because of price fixing (to shield the public from the effect of high inflation) or hyperinflation, where a loaf of bread is $10,000.

There will be a functioning economy in the US post dollar collapse. But the only function economy will be that of the black market. People will exchange things of real value instead of a monopoly money currency. Criminals are already exchanging laundry detergent, among other things, for drugs: [link to news.yahoo.com]
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LOL
So no economy - no nothing? People will eat... idk .... grass?

Nothing against doomtards, but you guys are... not very smart.

This thread is full of fail.



bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29569668


Of course supplies will be rationed in the post-collapse USA police state. Look what happened after hurricane Sandy. They wouldn't let gas stations "gouge" their customers so the supply shortages lasted much longer than they had to. The people that needed gas the most couldn't get gas because of people who didn't really need gas wanted to buy gas at the artificially low fixed price because they weren't sure when gas was going to be plentiful again. If people thought the aftermath of hurricane Sandy in the northeast was bad, wait until the whole country experiences supply shortages because of price fixing (to shield the public from the effect of high inflation) or hyperinflation, where a loaf of bread is $10,000.

There will be a functioning economy in the US post dollar collapse. But the only function economy will be that of the black market. People will exchange things of real value instead of a monopoly money currency. Criminals are already exchanging laundry detergent, among other things, for drugs: [link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


That's not true. naughty
The fuel just didn't exist.
There was no supply....and what was left was rationed to 10 gallons each.
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LOL
So no economy - no nothing? People will eat... idk .... grass?

Nothing against doomtards, but you guys are... not very smart.

This thread is full of fail.



bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29569668


Of course supplies will be rationed in the post-collapse USA police state. Look what happened after hurricane Sandy. They wouldn't let gas stations "gouge" their customers so the supply shortages lasted much longer than they had to. The people that needed gas the most couldn't get gas because of people who didn't really need gas wanted to buy gas at the artificially low fixed price because they weren't sure when gas was going to be plentiful again. If people thought the aftermath of hurricane Sandy in the northeast was bad, wait until the whole country experiences supply shortages because of price fixing (to shield the public from the effect of high inflation) or hyperinflation, where a loaf of bread is $10,000.

There will be a functioning economy in the US post dollar collapse. But the only function economy will be that of the black market. People will exchange things of real value instead of a monopoly money currency. Criminals are already exchanging laundry detergent, among other things, for drugs: [link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


That's not true. naughty
The fuel just didn't exist.
There was no supply....and what was left was rationed to 10 gallons each.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Well, the stations actually did have the gas in their tanks but since the gas stations didn't have power they couldn't get the gas pumped out. Had the stations had a generator, gas would have been able to be tapped from the stations' tanks. Gas stations don't bother to spend money to put in a generator because instances like hurricane Sandy are rare and there's no way for the gas stations to recoup their money on a generator if politicians don't let the owners "gouge" customers for a short period of time (a week or less).

Wouldn't be surprised if politicians passed a law to make it so gas stations were required to buy a generator. Of course, since massive power outages are rare, and the price of gasoline will be fixed in an emergency, to recoup the cost of the generator, now all of the customers at gas stations will pay more for gas all of the time. So, instead of some customers paying a lot more for gas for only a few days, now every customer will pay more for gas every day.
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LOL
So no economy - no nothing? People will eat... idk .... grass?

Nothing against doomtards, but you guys are... not very smart.

This thread is full of fail.



bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29569668


Of course supplies will be rationed in the post-collapse USA police state. Look what happened after hurricane Sandy. They wouldn't let gas stations "gouge" their customers so the supply shortages lasted much longer than they had to. The people that needed gas the most couldn't get gas because of people who didn't really need gas wanted to buy gas at the artificially low fixed price because they weren't sure when gas was going to be plentiful again. If people thought the aftermath of hurricane Sandy in the northeast was bad, wait until the whole country experiences supply shortages because of price fixing (to shield the public from the effect of high inflation) or hyperinflation, where a loaf of bread is $10,000.

There will be a functioning economy in the US post dollar collapse. But the only function economy will be that of the black market. People will exchange things of real value instead of a monopoly money currency. Criminals are already exchanging laundry detergent, among other things, for drugs: [link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


That's not true. naughty
The fuel just didn't exist.
There was no supply....and what was left was rationed to 10 gallons each.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Well, the stations actually did have the gas in their tanks but since the gas stations didn't have power they couldn't get the gas pumped out. Had the stations had a generator, gas would have been able to be tapped from the stations' tanks. Gas stations don't bother to spend money to put in a generator because instances like hurricane Sandy are rare and there's no way for the gas stations to recoup their money on a generator if politicians don't let the owners "gouge" customers for a short period of time (a week or less).

Wouldn't be surprised if politicians passed a law to make it so gas stations were required to buy a generator. Of course, since massive power outages are rare, and the price of gasoline will be fixed in an emergency, to recoup the cost of the generator, now all of the customers at gas stations will pay more for gas all of the time. So, instead of some customers paying a lot more for gas for only a few days, now every customer will pay more for gas every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


Left out that other gas stations from neighboring states had no incentive to supply areas suffering from shortages because of the artificially low prices.
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Of course supplies will be rationed in the post-collapse USA police state. Look what happened after hurricane Sandy. They wouldn't let gas stations "gouge" their customers so the supply shortages lasted much longer than they had to. The people that needed gas the most couldn't get gas because of people who didn't really need gas wanted to buy gas at the artificially low fixed price because they weren't sure when gas was going to be plentiful again. If people thought the aftermath of hurricane Sandy in the northeast was bad, wait until the whole country experiences supply shortages because of price fixing (to shield the public from the effect of high inflation) or hyperinflation, where a loaf of bread is $10,000.

There will be a functioning economy in the US post dollar collapse. But the only function economy will be that of the black market. People will exchange things of real value instead of a monopoly money currency. Criminals are already exchanging laundry detergent, among other things, for drugs: [link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


That's not true. naughty
The fuel just didn't exist.
There was no supply....and what was left was rationed to 10 gallons each.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Well, the stations actually did have the gas in their tanks but since the gas stations didn't have power they couldn't get the gas pumped out. Had the stations had a generator, gas would have been able to be tapped from the stations' tanks. Gas stations don't bother to spend money to put in a generator because instances like hurricane Sandy are rare and there's no way for the gas stations to recoup their money on a generator if politicians don't let the owners "gouge" customers for a short period of time (a week or less).

Wouldn't be surprised if politicians passed a law to make it so gas stations were required to buy a generator. Of course, since massive power outages are rare, and the price of gasoline will be fixed in an emergency, to recoup the cost of the generator, now all of the customers at gas stations will pay more for gas all of the time. So, instead of some customers paying a lot more for gas for only a few days, now every customer will pay more for gas every day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


Left out that other gas stations from neighboring states had no incentive to supply areas suffering from shortages because of the artificially low prices.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


Wrong.
Anyone caught trafficking fuel in tankers was stopped, fined and fuel confiscated by the state police.
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because gas will be rationed or unavailable.


LOL
So no economy - no nothing? People will eat... idk .... grass?

Nothing against doomtards, but you guys are... not very smart.

This thread is full of fail.



bsflag
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29569668


Of course supplies will be rationed in the post-collapse USA police state. Look what happened after hurricane Sandy. They wouldn't let gas stations "gouge" their customers so the supply shortages lasted much longer than they had to. The people that needed gas the most couldn't get gas because of people who didn't really need gas wanted to buy gas at the artificially low fixed price because they weren't sure when gas was going to be plentiful again. If people thought the aftermath of hurricane Sandy in the northeast was bad, wait until the whole country experiences supply shortages because of price fixing (to shield the public from the effect of high inflation) or hyperinflation, where a loaf of bread is $10,000.

There will be a functioning economy in the US post dollar collapse. But the only function economy will be that of the black market. People will exchange things of real value instead of a monopoly money currency. Criminals are already exchanging laundry detergent, among other things, for drugs: [link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1447583


That's not true. naughty
The fuel just didn't exist.
There was no supply....and what was left was rationed to 10 gallons each.
 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


Well, the stations actually did have the gas in their tanks but since the gas stations didn't have power they couldn't get the gas pumped out. Had the stations had a generator, gas would have been able to be tapped from the stations' tanks. Gas stations don't bother to spend money to put in a generator because instances like hurricane Sandy are rare and there's no way for the gas stations to recoup their money on a generator if politicians don't let the owners "gouge" customers for a short period of time (a week or less).

Wouldn't be surprised if politicians passed a law to make it so gas stations were required to buy a generator. Of course, since massive power outages are rare, and the price of gasoline will be fixed in an emergency, to recoup the cost of the generator, now all of the customers at gas stations will pay more for gas all of the time. So, instead of some customers paying a lot more for gas for only a few days, now every customer will pay more for gas every day.
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Some had gensets....most did not.
The ones that had fuel and were running via the gensets got emptied out pretty fast.
Every so often one of the gas stations that had fuel in the tanks underground but no power would get power via a temp generator and then BOOM....multi mile long lines until that fuel was gone. Most times they rationed people to 10 gallons.
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Yeah, police did fine people trying to ship in more gasoline. Shame isn't it? The police were actively helping to exacerbate the crisis by stopping people from supplying more gas to the affected areas. But the sheeple cheered as their clueless leaders assured them that it was for their own good that gas wasn't allowed to be sourced in. Go long black markets. Only a fool would put up with shortages, rationing and the state preventing the general public from receiving any sort of relief.
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This paragraph struck me the most!

DH: Eugenics? Population control?

RB: Yup. And re-education camps. But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof, they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing. People think they’ll take sites down - hack them. Why do that when they are more effective to infiltrate the discussion? Think about the birth certificate, I mean the eligibility problem of Obama. Perfect example.

Directed @ some of the shills of GLP
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This paragraph struck me the most!

DH: Eugenics? Population control?

RB: Yup. And re-education camps. But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof, they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing. People think they’ll take sites down - hack them. Why do that when they are more effective to infiltrate the discussion? Think about the birth certificate, I mean the eligibility problem of Obama. Perfect example.

Directed @ some of the shills of GLP
 Quoting: Jaid0gz


Yup, it's going on in this very thread.....
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This paragraph struck me the most!

DH: Eugenics? Population control?

RB: Yup. And re-education camps. But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof, they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing. People think they’ll take sites down - hack them. Why do that when they are more effective to infiltrate the discussion? Think about the birth certificate, I mean the eligibility problem of Obama. Perfect example.

Directed @ some of the shills of GLP
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Yup, it's going on in this very thread.....
 Quoting: Needles Eye


It could well be.

You do realize though that SQ has a really terrible track record?

I'm not arguing any of the bullet-points in the OP mind you. I do think a lot of those are legitimate potentialities. It's just that after a while on the "conspiracy circuit" you begin to dismiss certain sources.
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This paragraph struck me the most!

DH: Eugenics? Population control?

RB: Yup. And re-education camps. But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof, they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real.

But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing. People think they’ll take sites down - hack them. Why do that when they are more effective to infiltrate the discussion? Think about the birth certificate, I mean the eligibility problem of Obama. Perfect example.

Directed @ some of the shills of GLP
 Quoting: Jaid0gz


Yup, it's going on in this very thread.....
 Quoting: Needles Eye


It could well be.

You do realize though that SQ has a really terrible track record?

I'm not arguing any of the bullet-points in the OP mind you. I do think a lot of those are legitimate potentialities. It's just that after a while on the "conspiracy circuit" you begin to dismiss certain sources.
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I didn't realize sq had anything to do with this thread?
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This thread brings to mind some of the things that I think might happen. First off China wont mind being paid in dollars for now cause they can still get oil from OPEC with them even though they are using gold now too. Remember U.S. dollars are petro dollars and it is by virtue of this oil cartel that the dollar has been able to weather such abuse. Also U.S. has some comemercial technological advantages but I digress.

I think that the plan for the dollar is to stretch it all the way until it makes sense to issue one currency for the American hemisphere or Amerizone. I think this based on the fact that the treasury continues to inflate the dollar almost to see how far it can go and Lso based on whistle blower info from camelot website.

In light of this U.S. is going to continue to open up domestic energy as we wein the curency from its petro dollar status and begin to trump up the status of our technologies and organizational abilities. Sadly I think that the plan is flawed because some of these technologies are harmful ultimately I.e. GMO, military tech, pharmaceuticles etc. Even oil based transportation is a farce as better technologies already exist. The big lie is that the res5 of the world is convinced that U.S. industries provide the map of the civilized future. As long as this lie is perpe5uated U.S. purchasing power parity should remain strong enough to keep Americans obese whch in the long run will kill us and the rest of the world that buys into this lie of prosperity.

Idk. I could be wrong I guess. Definitely not a good time to let your guard down though.
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Remember, the collapse is ALWAYS in 3-6 months.
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This! But eventually it's going to be just 3 to 6 months away.
It will happen...we just don't really know when :-)
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This could well be the yr it all happens - multiple situations are reaching boiling point. The way they are just blatantly lying to your face now, disregarding the law and don't even care.

World foodstocks are at rock bottom, there are two big comets coming. The Pope is on his last legs and the Islamic Caliphate is forming.

There is absolutely no doubt that they have been preparing a crisis to usher in a NWO for a long time - they could have pulled it off a while ago and yet they have kept the balls juggling in the air seemingly against all odds - just as though they were waiting for something!
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I think that the plan for the dollar is to stretch it all the way until it makes sense to issue one currency for the American hemisphere or Amerizone. I think this based on the fact that the treasury continues to inflate the dollar almost to see how far it can go and Lso based on whistle blower info from camelot website.

 Quoting: Undestroyer


Where can I find this on their site? I see nothing about it. What are you referring to?
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It was one of the whistleblowers they hosted awhile ago. I did a quick search just now and all I can come up with was from 2007-2008. Here is the search for "Amero" on the camelot project [link to projectcamelotportal.com]

I have also been hearing things that tend to cooborate this - like Canada looks favorably at a currency with U.S. for instance. The interesting thing so far is how resilient the dollar has been amidst all this inflation even with the pressures around the world.
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