Godlike Productions - Conspiracy Forum
Users Online Now: 2,592 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 1,302,783
Pageviews Today: 1,832,404Threads Today: 576Posts Today: 10,236
03:56 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS

 
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:17 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


show us in scripture that he was teaching this to the gentiles based on what I said.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

I never said he TAUGHT it to gentiles....I said he continued the practice.
 Quoting: Shamar


you are lying that is not true either let us get the scripture and verses
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Acts 21 - Paul took the Nazarite vow. he also continued to observe the feasts as practiced by the *Jews* of that time....which observed ritual sacrifice, and eating.
 Quoting: Shamar

its an out right lie shamar you are going to twist things like the others

Here i prove you are lying on an apostle of the word ..who are we to blieve you shamar?

26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.

1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:19 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


Pertaining to the Law of Moses and the dietary should and should not's?

First go to the Law of Moses, don't go anywhere else until you have read, read, read, studied studied and studied, outlined outline outline, the entire of the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Number, and Deuteronomy, and then exacted from that text the Legal codice sections and outlined them as you would any other Law codice, Article, Section, Paragraph and Sentence and then Clause.

Do that first.. before you read any 'teaching' on these Laws. See what you yourself find in there.

Do you own homework, your own study, your own work. Then having done that study and re-tested your derived understanding from that search those sections again and attempt to (as if in a virtual world) apply the understanding you have to these laws, applied in action in a virtual society (perhaps like, "Second-Life") these laws and see what sorts of 'gotchas' you encounter.

Once you have done this for several months, them one is ready and at a good foundation to begin to discuss and share your findings.

Any other approach is vain. Do you own work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27972246


You left out the most important thing, the Holy Spirit and prayer. Without the Holy Spirit, you will understand absolutely NOTHING.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


SO now you see you don't have it because the bible says the holy spirit is given to thiose who obey his commandments
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Again........more false accusation and condemnation from you Neim.

Those who obey His commandments......to Love God and to Love your neighbor. I keep both as much as I possibly can.

Go accuse someone else..........sorry, last post here. Not falling into these spiritual traps anymore.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

what you want a cookie and a meddal because you are spreading a heresy?. No you are wrong and it is an out right lie.if something is not true it is s lie
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
All you folk like to come out and teach your own gospel. Prove everything this is what I do precept and in 3 and 4 places .I will not sit and watch you all tarnish the works who are you gentiles to come and talk bad about the apostles.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:24 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...

I never said he TAUGHT it to gentiles....I said he continued the practice.
 Quoting: Shamar


you are lying that is not true either let us get the scripture and verses
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Acts 21 - Paul took the Nazarite vow. he also continued to observe the feasts as practiced by the *Jews* of that time....which observed ritual sacrifice, and eating.
 Quoting: Shamar

its an out right lie shamar you are going to twist things like the others

Here i prove you are lying on an apostle of the word ..who are we to blieve you shamar?

26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Did you read from the Tanak the practice of taking a nazarite vow?

Num. 6:13: 'Now this is the law of the Nazarite when the days of his separation are fulfilled. He shall bring the offering to the doorway of the Tent of Meeting.'

Num. 6:14: 'He shall present his offering to Yahveh; one male lamb a year old without defect for a Burnt Offering, and one ewe-lamb a year old without defect for a Sin Offering, and one ram without defect for a Peace Offering,'

Num. 6:15: 'and a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour mixed with oil and unleavened wafers spread with oil, along with their Grain Offering and their Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:16: 'Then the priest shall present them before Yahveh and shall offer his Sin Offering and his Burnt Offering.'

Num. 6:17: 'He shall also offer the ram for a sacrifice of Peace Offerings to Yahveh together with the basket of unleavened cakes. The priest shall likewise offer its Grain Offering and its Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:18: 'The Nazarite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the Tent of Meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of Peace Offerings.'

Num. 6:19: 'The priest shall take the ram's shoulder when it has been boiled, and one unleavened cake out of the basket and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them in the hands of the Nazarite after he has shaved his dedicated hair.'

Num. 6:20: 'Then the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before Yahveh. It is holy for the priest, together with the breast offered by waving and the thigh offered by lifting up. And afterward the Nazarite may drink wine.'

Num. 6:21: 'This is the law of the Nazarite who vows his offering to Yahveh according to his separation, in addition to what else he can afford, according to his vow which he takes, so he shall do according to the law of his separation.'

Last Edited by Shamar on 12/27/2012 02:25 PM
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


you are lying that is not true either let us get the scripture and verses
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Acts 21 - Paul took the Nazarite vow. he also continued to observe the feasts as practiced by the *Jews* of that time....which observed ritual sacrifice, and eating.
 Quoting: Shamar

its an out right lie shamar you are going to twist things like the others

Here i prove you are lying on an apostle of the word ..who are we to blieve you shamar?

26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Did you read from the Tanak the practice of taking a nazarite vow?

Num. 6:13: 'Now this is the law of the Nazarite when the days of his separation are fulfilled. He shall bring the offering to the doorway of the Tent of Meeting.'

Num. 6:14: 'He shall present his offering to Yahveh; one male lamb a year old without defect for a Burnt Offering, and one ewe-lamb a year old without defect for a Sin Offering, and one ram without defect for a Peace Offering,'

Num. 6:15: 'and a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour mixed with oil and unleavened wafers spread with oil, along with their Grain Offering and their Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:16: 'Then the priest shall present them before Yahveh and shall offer his Sin Offering and his Burnt Offering.'

Num. 6:17: 'He shall also offer the ram for a sacrifice of Peace Offerings to Yahveh together with the basket of unleavened cakes. The priest shall likewise offer its Grain Offering and its Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:18: 'The Nazarite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the Tent of Meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of Peace Offerings.'

Num. 6:19: 'The priest shall take the ram's shoulder when it has been boiled, and one unleavened cake out of the basket and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them in the hands of the Nazarite after he has shaved his dedicated hair.'

Num. 6:20: 'Then the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before Yahveh. It is holy for the priest, together with the breast offered by waving and the thigh offered by lifting up. And afterward the Nazarite may drink wine.'

Num. 6:21: 'This is the law of the Nazarite who vows his offering to Yahveh according to his separation, in addition to what else he can afford, according to his vow which he takes, so he shall do according to the law of his separation.'
 Quoting: Shamar


NO SHOW ME PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AS YOU SAID

PAUL PURIFIED HIMSELF AND THE OTHERS WITH HIM BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE TEMPLE WHERE THEY WERE PERFORMING THEIR OFFERING

HE ENTERED THEIR TEMPLE BECAUSE HE HAD TO GO PREACH MESSIAH TO THEM FOR THEY HAD NOT HEARD OF MESSIAH

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 02:30 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30957385
Israel
12/27/2012 02:29 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Isaiah 66:3

But whoever sacrifices a bull
is like one who kills a person,
and whoever offers a lamb
is like one who breaks a dog’s neck


Isaiah 66:4

so I also will choose harsh treatment for them
and will bring on them what they dread.
For when I called, no one answered,
when I spoke, no one listened.
They did evil in my sight
and chose what displeases me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30943860


yep. Those are just a couple.
 Quoting: Shamar


Isaiah 66:3 IS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTANT FUTURE
another world ! like it says if you keep reading

"“As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the Lord,"


As for whats to come in the MESSIANIC ERA


The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE

I KNOW YOUR INTENT IS GOOD


BUT YOU DONT GET IT

READ UP


THAT RIGHT "Burnt offerings" ARE RETURNING !

BRB-Q
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


burnt offerings may be returning but they will stop as soon as Messiah rules.....If Messiah is "the new Adam," who returns us to the Garden of Eden, as *believers* believe, and if he is "the Prince of Peace" described in Isaiah 11, who ushers in God's new (renewed) vision, as *believers* also believe, it would be inconceivable for him to dine on animal carcasses or demand the burning flesh as a *sweet aroma*.
 Quoting: Shamar


THE HOLY WORDS OF THE GOOD BOOK CLEARLY CONTRADICT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

"Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days"


for all days

MEANS JUST THAT ------ FOREVER !

You are stating some man made interpetations of Jesus

THESE ARE PROPHETIC WORLDS


WHEN IT SAYS BURN OFFERING FOREVER IT MEANS WHAT IT SAYS

GOD DONT LIE



GOD is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Numbers 23:19
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:30 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


yep. Those are just a couple.
 Quoting: Shamar


Isaiah 66:3 IS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTANT FUTURE
another world ! like it says if you keep reading

"“As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the Lord,"


As for whats to come in the MESSIANIC ERA


The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE

I KNOW YOUR INTENT IS GOOD


BUT YOU DONT GET IT

READ UP


THAT RIGHT "Burnt offerings" ARE RETURNING !

BRB-Q
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


burnt offerings may be returning but they will stop as soon as Messiah rules.....If Messiah is "the new Adam," who returns us to the Garden of Eden, as *believers* believe, and if he is "the Prince of Peace" described in Isaiah 11, who ushers in God's new (renewed) vision, as *believers* also believe, it would be inconceivable for him to dine on animal carcasses or demand the burning flesh as a *sweet aroma*.
 Quoting: Shamar


THE HOLY WORDS OF THE GOOD BOOK CLEARLY CONTRADICT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

"Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days"


for all days

MEANS JUST THAT ------ FOREVER !

You are stating some man made interpetations of Jesus

THESE ARE PROPHETIC WORLDS


WHEN IT SAYS BURN OFFERING FOREVER IT MEANS WHAT IT SAYS

GOD DONT LIE



GOD is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


God is not a man, indeed, so why does he need the blood of animals to savor?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


Acts 21 - Paul took the Nazarite vow. he also continued to observe the feasts as practiced by the *Jews* of that time....which observed ritual sacrifice, and eating.
 Quoting: Shamar

its an out right lie shamar you are going to twist things like the others

Here i prove you are lying on an apostle of the word ..who are we to blieve you shamar?

26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Did you read from the Tanak the practice of taking a nazarite vow?

Num. 6:13: 'Now this is the law of the Nazarite when the days of his separation are fulfilled. He shall bring the offering to the doorway of the Tent of Meeting.'

Num. 6:14: 'He shall present his offering to Yahveh; one male lamb a year old without defect for a Burnt Offering, and one ewe-lamb a year old without defect for a Sin Offering, and one ram without defect for a Peace Offering,'

Num. 6:15: 'and a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour mixed with oil and unleavened wafers spread with oil, along with their Grain Offering and their Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:16: 'Then the priest shall present them before Yahveh and shall offer his Sin Offering and his Burnt Offering.'

Num. 6:17: 'He shall also offer the ram for a sacrifice of Peace Offerings to Yahveh together with the basket of unleavened cakes. The priest shall likewise offer its Grain Offering and its Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:18: 'The Nazarite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the Tent of Meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of Peace Offerings.'

Num. 6:19: 'The priest shall take the ram's shoulder when it has been boiled, and one unleavened cake out of the basket and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them in the hands of the Nazarite after he has shaved his dedicated hair.'

Num. 6:20: 'Then the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before Yahveh. It is holy for the priest, together with the breast offered by waving and the thigh offered by lifting up. And afterward the Nazarite may drink wine.'

Num. 6:21: 'This is the law of the Nazarite who vows his offering to Yahveh according to his separation, in addition to what else he can afford, according to his vow which he takes, so he shall do according to the law of his separation.'
 Quoting: Shamar


NO SHOW ME PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AS YOU SAID

PAUL PURIFIED HIMSELF AND THE OTHERS WITH HIM BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE TEMPLE WHERE THEY WERE PERFORMING THEIR OFFERING

HE ENTERED THEIR TEMPLE BECAUSE HE HAD TO GO PREACH MESSIAH TO THEM FOR THEY HAD NOT HEARD OF MESSIAH
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


Acts 21 - Paul took the Nazarite vow. he also continued to observe the feasts as practiced by the *Jews* of that time....which observed ritual sacrifice, and eating.
 Quoting: Shamar

its an out right lie shamar you are going to twist things like the others

Here i prove you are lying on an apostle of the word ..who are we to blieve you shamar?

26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Did you read from the Tanak the practice of taking a nazarite vow?

Num. 6:13: 'Now this is the law of the Nazarite when the days of his separation are fulfilled. He shall bring the offering to the doorway of the Tent of Meeting.'

Num. 6:14: 'He shall present his offering to Yahveh; one male lamb a year old without defect for a Burnt Offering, and one ewe-lamb a year old without defect for a Sin Offering, and one ram without defect for a Peace Offering,'

Num. 6:15: 'and a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour mixed with oil and unleavened wafers spread with oil, along with their Grain Offering and their Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:16: 'Then the priest shall present them before Yahveh and shall offer his Sin Offering and his Burnt Offering.'

Num. 6:17: 'He shall also offer the ram for a sacrifice of Peace Offerings to Yahveh together with the basket of unleavened cakes. The priest shall likewise offer its Grain Offering and its Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:18: 'The Nazarite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the Tent of Meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of Peace Offerings.'

Num. 6:19: 'The priest shall take the ram's shoulder when it has been boiled, and one unleavened cake out of the basket and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them in the hands of the Nazarite after he has shaved his dedicated hair.'

Num. 6:20: 'Then the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before Yahveh. It is holy for the priest, together with the breast offered by waving and the thigh offered by lifting up. And afterward the Nazarite may drink wine.'

Num. 6:21: 'This is the law of the Nazarite who vows his offering to Yahveh according to his separation, in addition to what else he can afford, according to his vow which he takes, so he shall do according to the law of his separation.'
 Quoting: Shamar


NO SHOW ME PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AS YOU SAID

PAUL PURIFIED HIMSELF AND THE OTHERS WITH HIM BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE TEMPLE WHERE THEY WERE PERFORMING THEIR OFFERING

HE ENTERED THEIR TEMPLE BECAUSE HE HAD TO GO PREACH MESSIAH TO THEM FOR THEY HAD NOT HEARD OF MESSIAH
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


He was either a false prophet, spreading a false gospel, OR practiced the Torah as he knew it......and I understand that he knew it very well.

Are you saying he picked parts of the vow to observe but not others? Do you suggest that he observed the Feasts, not as he had been taught all of his life, but began a new religion of christianity?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30957385
Israel
12/27/2012 02:31 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Neim-Ya'shar

HOW ABOUT THIS PROPHESY


WHAT HOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND IT ?


"Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days"

????????????????????????????????????????

...


yep. Those are just a couple.
 Quoting: Shamar


Isaiah 66:3 IS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTANT FUTURE
another world ! like it says if you keep reading

"“As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the Lord,"


As for whats to come in the MESSIANIC ERA


The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE

I KNOW YOUR INTENT IS GOOD


BUT YOU DONT GET IT

READ UP


THAT RIGHT "Burnt offerings" ARE RETURNING !

BRB-Q
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


burnt offerings may be returning but they will stop as soon as Messiah rules.....If Messiah is "the new Adam," who returns us to the Garden of Eden, as *believers* believe, and if he is "the Prince of Peace" described in Isaiah 11, who ushers in God's new (renewed) vision, as *believers* also believe, it would be inconceivable for him to dine on animal carcasses or demand the burning flesh as a *sweet aroma*.
 Quoting: Shamar


THE HOLY WORDS OF THE GOOD BOOK CLEARLY CONTRADICT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

"Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days"


for all days

MEANS JUST THAT ------ FOREVER !

You are stating some man made interpetations of Jesus

THESE ARE PROPHETIC WORLDS


WHEN IT SAYS BURN OFFERING FOREVER IT MEANS WHAT IT SAYS

GOD DONT LIE



GOD is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 30957385
Israel
12/27/2012 02:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


Isaiah 66:3 IS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTANT FUTURE
another world ! like it says if you keep reading

"“As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the Lord,"


As for whats to come in the MESSIANIC ERA


The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE

I KNOW YOUR INTENT IS GOOD


BUT YOU DONT GET IT

READ UP


THAT RIGHT "Burnt offerings" ARE RETURNING !

BRB-Q
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


burnt offerings may be returning but they will stop as soon as Messiah rules.....If Messiah is "the new Adam," who returns us to the Garden of Eden, as *believers* believe, and if he is "the Prince of Peace" described in Isaiah 11, who ushers in God's new (renewed) vision, as *believers* also believe, it would be inconceivable for him to dine on animal carcasses or demand the burning flesh as a *sweet aroma*.
 Quoting: Shamar


THE HOLY WORDS OF THE GOOD BOOK CLEARLY CONTRADICT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

"Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days"


for all days

MEANS JUST THAT ------ FOREVER !

You are stating some man made interpetations of Jesus

THESE ARE PROPHETIC WORLDS


WHEN IT SAYS BURN OFFERING FOREVER IT MEANS WHAT IT SAYS

GOD DONT LIE



GOD is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


God is not a man, indeed, so why does he need the blood of animals to savor?
 Quoting: Shamar




God dont NEED nothing


He gives us the opertunity to share the Brbq with his as a act of love

ITS DEEPER THAN THAT


I didn't write the book I just work here


People eating a meal together and share it with God

WOW !
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:34 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...

its an out right lie shamar you are going to twist things like the others

Here i prove you are lying on an apostle of the word ..who are we to blieve you shamar?

26 Then Paul took the men, and the next day purifying himself with them entered into the temple, to signify the accomplishment of the days of purification, until that an offering should be offered for every one of them.

27 And when the seven days were almost ended, the Jews which were of Asia, when they saw him in the temple, stirred up all the people, and laid hands on him,

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Did you read from the Tanak the practice of taking a nazarite vow?

Num. 6:13: 'Now this is the law of the Nazarite when the days of his separation are fulfilled. He shall bring the offering to the doorway of the Tent of Meeting.'

Num. 6:14: 'He shall present his offering to Yahveh; one male lamb a year old without defect for a Burnt Offering, and one ewe-lamb a year old without defect for a Sin Offering, and one ram without defect for a Peace Offering,'

Num. 6:15: 'and a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour mixed with oil and unleavened wafers spread with oil, along with their Grain Offering and their Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:16: 'Then the priest shall present them before Yahveh and shall offer his Sin Offering and his Burnt Offering.'

Num. 6:17: 'He shall also offer the ram for a sacrifice of Peace Offerings to Yahveh together with the basket of unleavened cakes. The priest shall likewise offer its Grain Offering and its Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:18: 'The Nazarite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the Tent of Meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of Peace Offerings.'

Num. 6:19: 'The priest shall take the ram's shoulder when it has been boiled, and one unleavened cake out of the basket and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them in the hands of the Nazarite after he has shaved his dedicated hair.'

Num. 6:20: 'Then the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before Yahveh. It is holy for the priest, together with the breast offered by waving and the thigh offered by lifting up. And afterward the Nazarite may drink wine.'

Num. 6:21: 'This is the law of the Nazarite who vows his offering to Yahveh according to his separation, in addition to what else he can afford, according to his vow which he takes, so he shall do according to the law of his separation.'
 Quoting: Shamar


NO SHOW ME PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AS YOU SAID

PAUL PURIFIED HIMSELF AND THE OTHERS WITH HIM BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE TEMPLE WHERE THEY WERE PERFORMING THEIR OFFERING

HE ENTERED THEIR TEMPLE BECAUSE HE HAD TO GO PREACH MESSIAH TO THEM FOR THEY HAD NOT HEARD OF MESSIAH
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


He was either a false prophet, spreading a false gospel, OR practiced the Torah as he knew it......and I understand that he knew it very well.

Are you saying he picked parts of the vow to observe but not others? Do you suggest that he observed the Feasts, not as he had been taught all of his life, but began a new religion of christianity?
 Quoting: Shamar


NOW YOU ARE MAKING UNBIBLICAL ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON YOUR OWN INTALLECT! SO YOU ARE NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PROVE THE LIE YOU SPOKE
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:36 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


Did you read from the Tanak the practice of taking a nazarite vow?

Num. 6:13: 'Now this is the law of the Nazarite when the days of his separation are fulfilled. He shall bring the offering to the doorway of the Tent of Meeting.'

Num. 6:14: 'He shall present his offering to Yahveh; one male lamb a year old without defect for a Burnt Offering, and one ewe-lamb a year old without defect for a Sin Offering, and one ram without defect for a Peace Offering,'

Num. 6:15: 'and a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour mixed with oil and unleavened wafers spread with oil, along with their Grain Offering and their Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:16: 'Then the priest shall present them before Yahveh and shall offer his Sin Offering and his Burnt Offering.'

Num. 6:17: 'He shall also offer the ram for a sacrifice of Peace Offerings to Yahveh together with the basket of unleavened cakes. The priest shall likewise offer its Grain Offering and its Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:18: 'The Nazarite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the Tent of Meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of Peace Offerings.'

Num. 6:19: 'The priest shall take the ram's shoulder when it has been boiled, and one unleavened cake out of the basket and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them in the hands of the Nazarite after he has shaved his dedicated hair.'

Num. 6:20: 'Then the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before Yahveh. It is holy for the priest, together with the breast offered by waving and the thigh offered by lifting up. And afterward the Nazarite may drink wine.'

Num. 6:21: 'This is the law of the Nazarite who vows his offering to Yahveh according to his separation, in addition to what else he can afford, according to his vow which he takes, so he shall do according to the law of his separation.'
 Quoting: Shamar


NO SHOW ME PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AS YOU SAID

PAUL PURIFIED HIMSELF AND THE OTHERS WITH HIM BEFORE HE WENT INTO THE TEMPLE WHERE THEY WERE PERFORMING THEIR OFFERING

HE ENTERED THEIR TEMPLE BECAUSE HE HAD TO GO PREACH MESSIAH TO THEM FOR THEY HAD NOT HEARD OF MESSIAH
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


He was either a false prophet, spreading a false gospel, OR practiced the Torah as he knew it......and I understand that he knew it very well.

Are you saying he picked parts of the vow to observe but not others? Do you suggest that he observed the Feasts, not as he had been taught all of his life, but began a new religion of christianity?
 Quoting: Shamar


NOW YOU ARE MAKING UNBIBLICAL ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON YOUR OWN INTALLECT! SO YOU ARE NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT PROVE THE LIE YOU SPOKE
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

jeeez louise!! He says that he performed the nazarite vow rquirements!! I didn't write it, it's in the scriptures. He performed the practice. To end the practice required the sacrifices noted above !!

If you don't like it, then explain it away....thus far all you have done is call me a liar.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:37 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Can someone help shamar find where paul did animal sacrifices please as she boldly slaimed.This is a challenge to the world
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:38 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
...


burnt offerings may be returning but they will stop as soon as Messiah rules.....If Messiah is "the new Adam," who returns us to the Garden of Eden, as *believers* believe, and if he is "the Prince of Peace" described in Isaiah 11, who ushers in God's new (renewed) vision, as *believers* also believe, it would be inconceivable for him to dine on animal carcasses or demand the burning flesh as a *sweet aroma*.
 Quoting: Shamar


THE HOLY WORDS OF THE GOOD BOOK CLEARLY CONTRADICT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING

"Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days"


for all days

MEANS JUST THAT ------ FOREVER !

You are stating some man made interpetations of Jesus

THESE ARE PROPHETIC WORLDS


WHEN IT SAYS BURN OFFERING FOREVER IT MEANS WHAT IT SAYS

GOD DONT LIE



GOD is not a man, that he should lie,
nor a son of man, that he should change his mind.
Does he speak and then not act?
Does he promise and not fulfill?

Numbers 23:19
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


God is not a man, indeed, so why does he need the blood of animals to savor?
 Quoting: Shamar




God dont NEED nothing


He gives us the opertunity to share the Brbq with his as a act of love

ITS DEEPER THAN THAT


I didn't write the book I just work here


People eating a meal together and share it with God

WOW !
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30957385


There won't be eating of any meat in the Millenium under Messiah's rule.....i know what the scripture says about the sacrifice in Ezekiel, and I think Zechariah....but it goes completely against the character of the Most High.

Something is amiss with the scriptures that speak of His need for blood sacrifice.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:39 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Can someone help shamar find where paul did animal sacrifices please as she boldly slaimed.This is a challenge to the world
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, please disect the scriptures for my poor pea brain then.

Please explain how Paul performed the nazarite vow correctly, according to the scriptures, without doing the last step.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:41 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
if paul was doing animal sacrifice or doing animal sacrifice in acts 21. why did the jews want to kill him?

BECAUSE HE WENT IN AND SPOKE AGAINST SUCH PRACTICE


28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place

Prove from scriptures shamar I am callin you out.. you said the apostle did animal sacrifice amongst the gentiles


I am tired with you folk who tell lies on the word of God

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 02:44 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27972246
United States
12/27/2012 02:44 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Paul = Saul the fake jew convert out of convenience. Made it up as he went along to suit his needs. Ala "Mohamedd"...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6932576


People don't understand the writings because he wrote to men who understood the law, so it is very hard to follow as a regular citizen who is just learning,These were letters not gospels to the higher orders
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Paul knew that Law of Moses, much better than many who take on the name "Christian" or even "Jew" these days it seems.

To understand that Law of Moses requires that one first study the Torah in full, completely and exhaustively. And not resort to all the junk that gets 'taught' by willing teachers of subversion such as many a Rabbi even in Jesus's day thought they had it all figured out.

The entire purpose of the Law of Moses was to so that it is impossible in this flesh and blood being born of a human mother and a human father, all who have a human mother and a human father are going to sooner or later break any law that would ever be given. Just as our super parents, Adam and Eve transgressed a single commandment so will all that are born of human father and human mother. Period. It does not matter what that law would be, mankind will break it eventually individually and collectively.

The Law of Moses is good if a man lives always within it and in all obedience to it... it is Good. But it is not VERY Good.

What LAW was Adam and Eve under? And even all those peoples before the Flood of Noah, what Law were they under? That would be of the Law of Adam.

What Law was given by God to Noah to obey and to teach his children (all the rest of mankind down to even Jacob/Israel himself) to obey? The Law of Noah.

What Law was given by God to Abraham to obey himself and instruct his own children and descendents to obey? This is the Law of Abraham.

Once the children of Israel had gone through a few generations, then a Law was given to that that fewer restricted them even above the prohibitions and prescriptions of the Law of Noah and/or the Law of Abraham? At the Exodus, even before Mt. Sinai there were commandments given to the Children of Israel, and then at Mt. Sinai, and elsewhere, and at the crossing of the Jordon into Cananna.. these all are the Law of Moses.

And then a Greater Prophet than Moses came to the much later descendants of the Children of Israel, an with a New Prophet comes a New Law, a new codice, revising and amending just as the Law of Noah was revised and amended at the time of the Law of Moses, so too would that Law of Moses be revised and amended and yet for all of this the Law of God was in place...

WIth Jesus Christ came a New Law, indeed, the Law of Christ.

All of these are the Law of God: The Law of Adam, the Law of Noah, the Law of Moses, the Law of Christ; all of these are of and within the Law of God. Without understanding this one cannot ever come to understand the overall Law of God sufficiently to successfully apply the law of God.

You shall love the Lord Your GOD with all your heart, mind, soul and strength. And you shall love your neighbor as yourself. Upon these two Law headings hang all the prophets and laws of God.

Its a matter of Venue and Legal Jurisdiction. In former times the Children of Israel were under the Venue and Legal Jurisdiction of the Law of Moses, and the Gentile at that time were under the overall umbrella of the Law of God. The Law of Moses was a distinct Venue and Legal Codice within the over all Law of God, and was set forth for a very special purpose. Even at that time the Law of Moses was given forth, the Gentiles remained underneath the Law of Noah. It had not been thrown away, but it was still "Law of God".

Jesus himself spoke of the Leaven of the Pharisees, the over extension and expansion of the Law of Moses, its Commandments, Statutes, and Ordinances.. extending and expanding it into a overflowing tar-pit.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
if paul was doing animal sacrifice or doing animal sacrifice in acts 21. why did the jews want to kill him?

BECAUSE HE WENT IN AND SPOKE AGAINST SUCH PRACTICE


28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place

Prove from scriptures shamar I am callin you out.. you said the apostle did animal sacrifice amongst the gentiles


I am tired with you folk who tell lies on the word of God
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
if paul was doing animal sacrifice or doing animal sacrifice in acts 21. why did the jews want to kill him?

BECAUSE HE WENT IN AND SPOKE AGAINST SUCH PRACTICE


28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place

Prove from scriptures shamar I am callin you out.. you said the apostle did animal sacrifice amongst the gentiles


I am tired with you folk who tell lies on the word of God
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


You ignoring what I showed you. why?
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:48 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Can someone help shamar find where paul did animal sacrifices please as she boldly slaimed.This is a challenge to the world
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, please disect the scriptures for my poor pea brain then.

Please explain how Paul performed the nazarite vow correctly, according to the scriptures, without doing the last step.
 Quoting: Shamar

Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:49 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
if paul was doing animal sacrifice or doing animal sacrifice in acts 21. why did the jews want to kill him?

BECAUSE HE WENT IN AND SPOKE AGAINST SUCH PRACTICE


28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man, that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place

Prove from scriptures shamar I am callin you out.. you said the apostle did animal sacrifice amongst the gentiles


I am tired with you folk who tell lies on the word of God
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar

1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27834680
Panama
12/27/2012 02:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
I'm not sure why so many Christians are kicking up a fuss over this.

It seems obvious enough to me that the sanitary and dietary laws would still apply. Christ's sacrifice did not change the laws of physics.

For example, the old testament laws forbid urinating or defecating in or near the waters that people draw to drink from. We know that breaking this law causes cholera.

I don't see anyone arguing that we should dispense with septic tanks and just dump all the waste into our wells instead, yet people champion eating the flesh of animals that we've been told are too filthy to be fit for human consumption.

Unclean animals are a cesspool of parasites and disease. You really do eat them at your own risk. Chronic health problems and premature death are the result. This has not changed.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Can someone help shamar find where paul did animal sacrifices please as she boldly slaimed.This is a challenge to the world
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, please disect the scriptures for my poor pea brain then.

Please explain how Paul performed the nazarite vow correctly, according to the scriptures, without doing the last step.
 Quoting: Shamar

 Quoting: Shamar


WE ON THE BORADS ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO PROVE FROM SCRIPTURES AND SHOW US THE PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AMONGST THE GENTILES LIKE YOU SAID..I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING YOU MADE A REMARK PROVE IT
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:51 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
You can't answer me...... so you resort to calling me a liar?

Neim.... verysad


Well, you realize don't you, that you are basically confirming the belief that Paul started a new religion which we now call christianity......

AND

you are confirming, with your beliefs, that Paul was a false prophet.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:53 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
I'm not sure why so many Christians are kicking up a fuss over this.

It seems obvious enough to me that the sanitary and dietary laws would still apply. Christ's sacrifice did not change the laws of physics.

For example, the old testament laws forbid urinating or defecating in or near the waters that people draw to drink from. We know that breaking this law causes cholera.

I don't see anyone arguing that we should dispense with septic tanks and just dump all the waste into our wells instead, yet people champion eating the flesh of animals that we've been told are too filthy to be fit for human consumption.

Unclean animals are a cesspool of parasites and disease. You really do eat them at your own risk. Chronic health problems and premature death are the result. This has not changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27834680

Thank you to each his own but they miss the point that it is a guideline to healthier life style
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:55 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
You can't answer me...... so you resort to calling me a liar?

Neim.... verysad


Well, you realize don't you, that you are basically confirming the belief that Paul started a new religion which we now call christianity......

AND

you are confirming, with your beliefs, that Paul was a false prophet.
 Quoting: Shamar


WE ON THE BORADS ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO PROVE FROM SCRIPTURES AND SHOW US THE PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AMONGST THE GENTILES LIKE YOU SAID..I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING YOU MADE A REMARK PROVE IT

And you are because you said the apostle was sacrificing animals amongst the gentile and I will show the post.So don't play your little stupid Lisa games here.I am disappointed in you
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
Can someone help shamar find where paul did animal sacrifices please as she boldly slaimed.This is a challenge to the world
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Neim, please disect the scriptures for my poor pea brain then.

Please explain how Paul performed the nazarite vow correctly, according to the scriptures, without doing the last step.
 Quoting: Shamar

 Quoting: Shamar


WE ON THE BORADS ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO PROVE FROM SCRIPTURES AND SHOW US THE PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AMONGST THE GENTILES LIKE YOU SAID..I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING YOU MADE A REMARK PROVE IT
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



Numbers 6:1-6
The Nazirite

1 AHYH said to Moses, 2 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: 'If a man or woman wants to make a special vow, a vow of separation to AHYH as a Nazirite, 3 he must abstain from wine and other fermented drink and must not drink vinegar made from wine or from other fermented drink. He must not drink grape juice or eat grapes or raisins. 4 As long as he is a Nazirite, he must not eat anything that comes from the grapevine, not even the seeds or skins.

5 " 'During the entire period of his vow of separation no razor may be used on his head. He must be holy until the period of his separation to the LORD is over; he must let the hair of his head grow long. 6 Throughout the period of his separation to YHWH he must not go near a dead body. 7 Even if his own father or mother or brother or sister dies, he must not make himself ceremonially unclean on account of them, because the symbol of his separation to AHYH is on his head. 8 Throughout the period of his separation he is consecrated to the LORD.

So as we see, the first step in taking the Vow of a Nazirite is to (vs. 5) shave your head. Then during the entire period of the vow you cannot cut your hair at all, the hair that grows during this time is your gift to YHWH as you go to the Temple and cut it off at the end of the vow and offer it as a sacrifice to AHYH.


Did Paul take this vow? Did he shave his head?

Acts 18:18

18 Paul stayed on in Corinth for some time. Then he left the brothers and sailed for Syria, accompanied by Priscilla and Aquila. Before he sailed, he had his hair cut off at Cenchrea because of a vow he had taken.

Paul was not the only one, many of the early sons of AHYH took this vow in obedience to the Torah:


Acts 21:23-24

23so do what we tell you. There are four men with us who have made a vow. 24Take these men, join in their purification rites and pay their expenses, so that they can have their heads shaved. Then everybody will know there is no truth in these reports about you, but that you yourself are living in obedience to the law.


See how obedient Paul and all these early believers were to the VERY LAW the Christian Church abolished. Interesting isn't it? Back to the point... did Paul offer sacrifices in the Temple... YES. Upon completion of the vow he and others took of a Nazirite, they had to go to the Temple and cut their hair and offer the proper sacrifices in order to "end" their period of purification and consecration to AHYH:


Acts 21:26

26The next day Paul took the men and purified himself along with them. Then he went to the temple to give notice of the date (the Nazarite vow is for a set period) when the days of purification (the duration of the Nazarite Vow) would end and the offering would be made for each of them.

*

Num. 6:13: 'Now this is the law of the Nazarite when the days of his separation are fulfilled. He shall bring the offering to the doorway of the Tent of Meeting.'

Num. 6:14: 'He shall present his offering to Yahveh; one male lamb a year old without defect for a Burnt Offering, and one ewe-lamb a year old without defect for a Sin Offering, and one ram without defect for a Peace Offering,'

Num. 6:15: 'and a basket of unleavened cakes of fine flour mixed with oil and unleavened wafers spread with oil, along with their Grain Offering and their Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:16: 'Then the priest shall present them before Yahveh and shall offer his Sin Offering and his Burnt Offering.'

Num. 6:17: 'He shall also offer the ram for a sacrifice of Peace Offerings to Yahveh together with the basket of unleavened cakes. The priest shall likewise offer its Grain Offering and its Wine Offering.'

Num. 6:18: 'The Nazarite shall then shave his dedicated head of hair at the doorway of the Tent of Meeting, and take the dedicated hair of his head and put it on the fire which is under the sacrifice of Peace Offerings.'

Num. 6:19: 'The priest shall take the ram's shoulder when it has been boiled, and one unleavened cake out of the basket and one unleavened wafer, and shall put them in the hands of the Nazarite after he has shaved his dedicated hair.'

Num. 6:20: 'Then the priest shall wave them for a wave offering before Yahveh. It is holy for the priest, together with the breast offered by waving and the thigh offered by lifting up. And afterward the Nazarite may drink wine.'

Num. 6:21: 'This is the law of the Nazarite who vows his offering to Yahveh according to his separation, in addition to what else he can afford, according to his vow which he takes, so he shall do according to the law of his separation.'
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.
Neim-Ya'shar (OP)

User ID: 30953870
United States
12/27/2012 02:57 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
The historical Jesus did not eat ANY meat.

In fact church history records that the earliest followers of Y'shua were all mostly raw VEGANS.

The real Jesus taught that animal sacrifice and eating meat was edited into the Bible by the lying pen of the Scribes.

Paul comments about vegetarians were a attack on the Apostles and brothers of Jesus (Whom he constantly mocks and attacks in his letters)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27242440


Correct.....I thing part of Paul's problems stemmed from his pharasaical background......He got the GRACE part down good, but continued to carry the corrupt practices of animal sacrifice --- which of course, resulted in the eating of animals.
 Quoting: Shamar


This is a lie and I will like you to show any scripture where paul did animal sacrifices

I challenge anyone on this board that is a lie from hell

Paul said he became all things to win men over to messiah. There were in those gentile nations hebrews who were still practicing blood offerings but Paul had to get in to the circle by going into there temple and then teach the word of Christ.

SAME WAY HE HAD TO GO INTO THE SHRINE OF DIANE and spread the words to her congregation

Jesus sat with publicans and theives and drank wine. he wasa called a wine biibber



I AM TIRED WITH YOU PEOPLE
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


HERE IS YOUR LIE YOU ARE TEACHING TO PEOPLE SHAMAR

Grow up!

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 12/27/2012 02:58 PM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
Shamar

User ID: 24946868
United States
12/27/2012 02:59 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS
You can't answer me...... so you resort to calling me a liar?

Neim.... verysad


Well, you realize don't you, that you are basically confirming the belief that Paul started a new religion which we now call christianity......

AND

you are confirming, with your beliefs, that Paul was a false prophet.
 Quoting: Shamar


WE ON THE BORADS ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO PROVE FROM SCRIPTURES AND SHOW US THE PAUL WAS SACRIFICING ANIMALS AMONGST THE GENTILES LIKE YOU SAID..I DONT HAVE TO PROVE ANYTHING YOU MADE A REMARK PROVE IT

And you are because you said the apostle was sacrificing animals amongst the gentile and I will show the post.So don't play your little stupid Lisa games here.I am disappointed in you
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

*

Neim, I have shown you the scriptures which you reject. I 'll not speak to this with you any more.
Love is a state of Being. Your love is not outside; it is deep within you. You can never lose it, and it cannot leave you. You can feel the same life deep within every other human and every other creature. You look beyond the veil of form and separation. This is the realization of oneness. This is love. What is God? The Eternal One Life underneath all the forms of life. What is love? To feel the presence of that One Life deep within yourself and within all creatures. To be it. Therefore, all love is the love of God.

Death is a stripping away of all that is not you. The secret of life is to die before you die - and find that there is no death.

News