NO YOU CANNOT EAT EVERY TYPE OF FLESH GUIDE TO HELP CHRISTIANS UNDERSTAND THIS

Act 10:9-17 KJV
(9) On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
(10) And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance,
(11) And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth:
(12) Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.
(13) And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.
(14) But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
(15) And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
(16) This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
(17) Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean, behold, the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate,

Act 10:24-28 KJV
(24) And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them, and had called together his kinsmen and near friends.
(25) And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him.
(26) But Peter took him up, saying, Stand up; I myself also am a man.
(27) And as he talked with him, he went in, and found many that were come together.
(28) And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.


Here I find no use of the term "Hebrew" what so ever. What I find is a reference to the Jews.

(28) And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company, or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

Interesting the Pete doesn't use the term "Children of Israel" in this statement, nor does Peter use the term "Israelite".

We might be able to in this context expand or extend the term 'the Jews' to 'the children of Israel' or 'Israelites', and we might even be able to properly expand the term (in this context) 'Israelites' to 'Israel', but if we go beyond that expansion or extension we are fallen into error. Issac was not a Jew, nor was Issac his own son, Jacob/Israel. Abraham was not a Jew either. Peleg was not a Jew, and neither was 'Eber.

Correct.....I thing part of Paul's problems stemmed from his pharasaical background......He got the GRACE part down good, but continued to carry the corrupt practices of animal sacrifice --- which of course, resulted in the eating of animals.

Isaiah 66:3

But whoever sacrifices a bull
is like one who kills a person,
and whoever offers a lamb
is like one who breaks a dog’s neck


Isaiah 66:4

so I also will choose harsh treatment for them
and will bring on them what they dread.
For when I called, no one answered,
when I spoke, no one listened.
They did evil in my sight
and chose what displeases me.

This is my last post here in an attempt to get the lost to see that it's not about food or animals........it's about PEOPLE!

Everything was a foreshadowing of what was to come, a lesser and greater fulfillment which most people do not get because they do not read with spiritual eyes and do not hear with spiritual ears. They are like the Pharisees, this is why Jesus spoke in parables, because the ones who think they are smart will never get the real meaning.

Everything in the OT is symbolic of the NT, EVERYTHING. It's all about people and matters of the heart.

Read the Letter of Barnabas chapter 10 to get a better understanding if you want to know the truth. [link to www.earlychristianwritings.com]

Or continue on in your falsehood.........it's your choice.

This is correct. Later, at the Concile of Nicäa, special escrivatores were ordered to remove the vegan / vegetarian or reincarnation references from the scriptures. They have overseen some though.

Passover Lamb meal was Lamb... go figure, an animal, a mammal... one could not properly observe the commandments in the Law of Moses without eating the lamb yourself... if you did't eat the lamb (or goat) you would not have been in obediance to that law of the Passover as found in the Law of Moses.


Oh, and someone asked about the Law of Noah (that law with God gave to Noah and to give to his children after the end of the flood.

Gen 9:1-7 KJV
(1) And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
(2) And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
(3) Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
(4) But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.
(5) And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.
(6) Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
(7) And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein.


This is what I term "The Law of Noah". And as to dietary Law of Noah this part: Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat. And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man.

Any religion that forbids Lobster is pure evil. You know who else are forbidden Lobster? The poor people living under the rule of Communist Cuba.

yep. Those are just a couple.

Ok so how about a partial list of what we should and should not be eating? (for us laymen)...

Isaiah 66:3 IS TALKING ABOUT THE DISTANT FUTURE
another world ! like it says if you keep reading

"“As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before me,” declares the Lord,"


As for whats to come in the MESSIANIC ERA


The work of the Holy Temple will continue once again as we see from the Prophet Jeremiah:

" Behold the days are coming says YHVH I will perform the good thing which I promised to the house of Israel, and to the house of Yehudah. In those days at that time, I will cause an offshoot of righteousness to grow up for David and He shall execute justice and righteousness in the land. In those days shall Yehudah be saved and Jerusalem shall dwell safely and this is the name whereby she shall be called YHVH is our righteousness. Thus says YHVH David shall never lack a man sitting on the thrown of the house of Israel. Neither shall the Cohen and Levites lack a man before me to offer Burnt offerings and to burn Meal offerings and to do sacrifice for all days "(33:14-18)

DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE

I KNOW YOUR INTENT IS GOOD


BUT YOU DONT GET IT

READ UP


THAT RIGHT "Burnt offerings" ARE RETURNING !

BRB-Q

IF YOU BUY JESUS AS THE FINAL AND PERFECT SACRIFICE

WHATS THIS ?

What came first was physical. What last comes is Spiritual.

Flesh and Blood first, then comes Soul, and then comes the Spirit of Man, and in due time as the Father provides, then comes the Spirit of God installed within man when ever man has believe the testimony of God and His Son.

Every phrase of the Bible could be taken as literal or symbolic (virtualized or 'spiritualized') as one form or another of Figure of Speech. Each single phrase. The task is to learn what phrase is Literal and what is Figure of Speech. The matrix of such possibilities is staggering in the number of dimensions and elements in that whole hyper-dimensional matrix of meaning.

Let each man be convinced of his own study... but have also humility as to awareness of each man's limitations.

The First Adam was physical, and a living soul, with a spirit of man. The First Adam was created, made (appointed), and formed.

As to the Epistle of Barnabas, I would like to find the Greek text that Lightfoot did his translation from.

Pertaining to the Law of Moses and the dietary should and should not's?

First go to the Law of Moses, don't go anywhere else until you have read, read, read, studied studied and studied, outlined outline outline, the entire of the books of Exodus, Leviticus, Number, and Deuteronomy, and then exacted from that text the Legal codice sections and outlined them as you would any other Law codice, Article, Section, Paragraph and Sentence and then Clause.

Do that first.. before you read any 'teaching' on these Laws. See what you yourself find in there.

Do you own homework, your own study, your own work. Then having done that study and re-tested your derived understanding from that search those sections again and attempt to (as if in a virtual world) apply the understanding you have to these laws, applied in action in a virtual society (perhaps like, "Second-Life") these laws and see what sorts of 'gotchas' you encounter.

Once you have done this for several months, them one is ready and at a good foundation to begin to discuss and share your findings.

Any other approach is vain. Do you own work.

WELL WHATS UP WITH THIS ?

You left out the most important thing, the Holy Spirit and prayer. Without the Holy Spirit, you will understand absolutely NOTHING.

Paul practiced sacrifice......why do you call this a lie?

burnt offerings may be returning but they will stop as soon as Messiah rules.....If Messiah is "the new Adam," who returns us to the Garden of Eden, as *believers* believe, and if he is "the Prince of Peace" described in Isaiah 11, who ushers in God's new (renewed) vision, as *believers* also believe, it would be inconceivable for him to dine on animal carcasses or demand the burning flesh as a *sweet aroma*.

You are going to miss "The Wedding Supper of the Lamb"

I never said he TAUGHT it to gentiles....I said he continued the practice.

paul said it was cool.

Indeed, so I did, and I should not have left that out... however I had intended to be speaking to those who already have the Spirit of God within them.

Acts 21 - Paul took the Nazarite vow. he also continued to observe the feasts as practiced by the *Jews* of that time....which observed ritual sacrifice, and eating.

Furthermore, whether one wants to say that Paul TAUGHT the gentiles sacrifice (not sure why he would need to teach them sacrifice) he DID tell them to follow his example, which one would presume would include sacrifice.

Last Edited by If You Only Knew on 12/27/2012 02:17 PM

Again........more false accusation and condemnation from you Neim.

Those who obey His commandments......to Love God and to Love your neighbor. I keep both as much as I possibly can.

Go accuse someone else..........sorry, last post here. Not falling into these spiritual traps anymore.