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miabelieves  User ID: 30428793  United States12/27/2012 10:01 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello all. Does no one read what is said or do you just read the title and than start replying. OP clearly says found somewhere else and posting. OH, why bother. If people can't see things are changing at a dramatic rate than you best be opening your eyes. TODWI Hold on to your undies, it's gonna be a hell of a ride |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2312772 United States12/27/2012 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding. Quoting: knowing 25512421 When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive? Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start. We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known. There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea. Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you. There is no scripture that explicitly says that a new temple will be built, even as there is no scripture that says the Jews will return to their land before Messiah comes. (All the scriptures about the end time return speak of a return of all Israel, not just the Jews, and Isaiah 66 explicitly says this will happen after Messiah comes, not before.) But it is physically impossible for the man of sin to "sit as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God" (2 Thessalonians 2:4) if there is no temple. And it is physically impossible to take away the "daily sacrifice" (Daniel 8:11-13) if no daily sacrifice is being offered. Likewise, Daniel 8:14 explicitly says that after 2300 days "then shall the sanctuary be cleansed." Again, it is physically impossible to cleanse a sanctuary that does not exist. You are quite sure this temple does not exist? Does it not say for the elect's sake flesh would be saved by the days being shortened? Does it not say that Christ came in this flesh and died for our sins? Where does symbolism begin and end for you? A parable is called a parable for a reason. As surely as Christ came in flesh and God has found it important to save it for the elects' sake, the rest of the endtime prophecy will be fulfilled in fleshly existence as well. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30985239 United Kingdom12/27/2012 10:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he said god does not discriminate, yet god gave hm the vision, why not god give us all the same vision, that way there would be no conflicts of argument since we all had the same visions, then we would all have to agree with the one god if we all had the same vision, why waste it on one man to convince 6 billion others, dont make sense does it, why would a god tell one person or show him a vision then expect that one person to tell the world, pathetic to say the least. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 365191  Canada12/27/2012 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5 yeaqr olds and personal dreams are what i look to when like planning my future Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30947744 i go on the net and read them and say to meself " wow, a tidal wave (thge japs call them tsumanis and so do stupid american coipy cat retards) lol learn how to spell you fucken wordtard.... |
| gatzster User ID: 779066  Puerto Rico12/27/2012 11:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.amazon.com] Heaven is for Real by Todd Burpo This vision is very similar to the story of the little boy Colton (4 or 5)who spent some time in Heaven while he was very ill. He never actually flat-lined but he was a very sick little boy. While in Heaven he described Jesus with the same type of clothing and lightheartedness of spirit described in this vision. He talked about all the children playing in Heaven and even playing with his sister that he never knew. His mother lost a baby and they never explained it to their children because they were young. They didn't know the baby was a girl. He talked about how beautiful Heaven was with colors that are indescribable and all the animals. He even met his grandfather. Colton's father is a pastor and after Colton recovered he started talking about Heaven. The parents wanted to let Colton describe his experience without any coaching. As the little boy grew his description became more detailed as he learned specific words. When he told his Dad that he met grandpa they showed him pictures of his grandfather as an old man. He kept saying no. Then they showed him a picture of grandpa as a young man he said yes that is grandpa. They also showed him pictures of Jesus and he kept saying no. It wasn't until they showed him Akiane's Prince of Peace artwork that he said yes, that is Jesus. [link to shroudstory.com] This book is a short read and I found it very comforting to read after losing my spouse. Also wanted to mention that Akiane, the artist, was raised by Atheists. She painted the Prince of Peace at age 8. Last Edited by gatzster on 12/27/2012 11:47 PM |
| WhiteLight User ID: 19401718 United States12/27/2012 11:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this on another forum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16256353 I thought I would post it here. I have never seen anyting like it. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I was raised an athiest. Utterly godless. Not even agnostic. No gods..fairies..santas or bunnies…Believed nothing at all. I saw all the trouble and confusion it caused and wanted nothing to do with it. I see Christians always fighting and debating and being hypocrites all the time. I see new agers not really having a clue what it is they actually beleive in, and going in circles. I see all the other religions all banging their head on a wall but achieving nothing but headaches. I wanted no part in it and still don’t. But I had a dream /vision when I was 15 that changed my life, but it was not until about a year ago it took effect, and according to the dream it will not be until after tomorrow, when I turn 44, that it finds fulfilment. I was 15...still a kid..but wondering what it was all about, seeing as everything was so totally pointless and without a reason or a goal. Being an athiest is the most pointless life one can live..so empty of purpose or meaning. And like all kids I needed purpose and meaning. So the dream./vision... It was September the 28th 1984....a day I will never forget, because its the day my life was taken right OUT of my hands, and I realised that none of us really have a choice...only a will directed by the one who makes the choices. I remember so clearly..sitting on my bed that night...looking out the window at the stars. Wondering why they were there..what purpose they served..if any at all. I remember asking the same thing of myself..what was my purpose..did I have a purpose...or was it all pointless..an illusion..meaningless and dead? That night I lay down on my bed..still wondering what it was all about...and I had a dream....or a vision..not sure which but it was incredibly vivid..I was there..could feel..hear..smell.... Where was I? (Keep in mind up UNTIL that point I had never even looked into a bible or any religious book..so what I saw was not previously planted in there) One moment I was on my bed..in a half awake half sleep state..a trance you might call it. That zone you are in where you are still aware but also..not aware. I found myself about 200 meters in the air...an air that was NOT air as we know it.I looked around in shock...I was there..this was no dream..I panicked at first cause I thought I was dead..and for all I know..I was. After adjusting to this "Shock" I was able to look around me..where I was...and what I saw....Spreading around me in every direction to a horizon that just was not there..was THE most incredible landscape I have ever seen. No majestic scene on earth comes close to this..awesome..the SCOPE of it...endless..and solid and real. Vast jungles..parks..majestic mighty mountains..oceans the size of earth itself..and lakes as big as oceans. Waterfalls a hundred kilometers high..mighty rivers packed with life..crystal clear...the trees...small and great..colourful..detailed..each one unique and some full of flowers of colours vivid and bright..some full of fruit of weird shapes and hue. ALL was alive..in a life that was LIFE..not just living things..but LIVING beings..they were not just alive..they WERE life in its essence...each leaf..blade of grass..creature and fish..bird and reptile..were not JUST alive..its like they WERE EMANATING life... This mighty and majestic landscape went on and on. What I thought were small hills in the distance, turned out to be mighty mountain ranges that make the himalayas look like a badly thought up joke in comparison. The waterfall immediatly to my left upon arrival there...WOW...it was (I later found out) over 300 kilometers form where I floated..and even at that distance it was so utterly magnificent...rising up and up..above eye level..like looking UP at a river..It decended down the side of a "small"(compared to some of the other mountains there) 100 kilometer high cliff face...falling..cascading..majestic..and throwing of rainbows in its mighty mist... I could go on and on about the details..but I am going to stick with the main part...and that is..WHO was standing "Or floating" there beside me..who until that moment I had not noticed.. I turned to my right...and...wow...there was this bloke...who I Immediatley KNEW was The creator of all I saw. I didnt know his name..I just KNEW HE was responsible for it all.. He was about 6 foot...medium build..strong..yet supple..he had an air of authority about him..like a mighty fighter who could whip anyones butt with ease..and KNEW it..but was humble and gentle and didnt brag about it. His hair was white...but not from age..more of a symbol of purity kind of white. Like a judge would wear a white wig as a symbol. But this hair was no wig. It was his own. He wore a sort of robe..not ancient..yet not modern. Like a royal robe of state. Across his chest from right shoulder to left hip was a red/purple sash about 6 inches wide, interwoven with gold threads. The robe went to just above his ankles. He had sandals on. But not ancient looking. More of a modern look. But in looking there..at his feet...I saw holes in them...Then with a shock..I saw his hands..they too had holes in them..just at the ends of his wrists..each hole about half an inch wide. There was no blood and the wounds were not festy or horrible. They..were worn like a status symbol..a mark..more than an annoying wound.I had the urge to kneel..but realised I didnt have a body to kneel with. So I just looked at him..KNOWING he could read every thought...and knew my intent was to kneel if only I could have.. He knew. He just smiled at me..joy glittering in his eyes..eyes..so..blue..gold..green...all colours..fire..eyes of fire..like an opal of magnificent brilliance. He seemed to radiate a real..freindliness..happiness..total peace..yet utter and mighty authority. You felt at ease with him..yet so humbled as well. I finally said to him(Well..I thought it)...."You are God?" He said simply..."(I AM)" I thought to myself "This cant be real..there IS no "God"...I am imagining all this..I MUST be... He smiled even broader..if that were possible..like he was amused at my simple yet certain belief in nothing. It was not a snide enjoyment he was feeling..it was more like you would smile at a toddler who said something cute. He said, knowing my turmoil and thoughts, "Come..let me show you your destiny" Ah yes..to some it is very dramatic indeed..and to some like myself I have lived it my whole life. This experience came to me as a small child..5-6 years old and my mother said it was a bad dream..but my life was full immersion the White Light of the known the deep and never completely understood I AM..if I were to make this statement now..or forever more.. I AM..and it is true. I was born from an Atheist father and I agree so much with that assessment.. Being an atheist is the most pointless life one can live..so empty of purpose or meaning. And I have tried in my way to show that basis to know that it is.. the I AM.. the truth. So good now that many more will open the door! It truly is what will save mankind! I have not read the profacy he was given nor does it matter really. Because unless YOU have the experience and YOU open the door it is no one else that can have that kind of effect on you! I may add that I too can Astral travel and I too have been given the job of changing peoples minds but for now I rest.. let others do the job of heavy lifting of souls..just understand this when you are ready..he will come..and of course it may be a SHE.. I am a Child of God |
| Brian8888 User ID: 29823953 United States12/28/2012 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Waking up is really hard to do... You still may do it... Don't give up... It's not the end..... It's the beginning.... For you.... The universal " you".... This was your dream... You met your true self....as a man... You saw the world for what it is... Majestic.... Glorious... Heavenly.... Clean your sight... And be reborn.... Immortal YOU ARE ME |
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| MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada12/28/2012 01:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the fact he knew angels did not have wings gives it real credence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17453675 The minute anyone has an nde or a vision and mentions angels with wing you KNOW its all crap. Ex:25:20: And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be. [link to www.blueletterbible.org] 1) cherub, cherubim (pl) a) an angelic being 1) as guardians of Eden 2) as flanking God's throne 3) as an image form hovering over the Ark of the Covenant 4) as the chariot of Jehovah (fig.) For those looking for the original g00gle the first line of the vision. |
| Goat Hunter User ID: 10428279 United States12/28/2012 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have been to that same place OP, in a vision. I know just what you are saying and can feel and smell and touch it myself. I also remember That everybody grew their own gardens and it was a blessing. working the land together was such a blessing. We all had houses but they were like glass houses. No need for true walls, as there was nothing to hide and a wall only shut out some of the life emminating from the atmosphere and the beings and critters etc. It was always sunny and bright but never hot. I floated over the waterfall with the other person you describe. Everything was so beautiful and peaceful and full life. I was given no message to bring forward. but I want to affirm what you saw and where you were. Your description is so affirming to me. You wrote it very well. You brought it back very vividly for me. Thank you. eta: okay so OP is in another thread: Here is what was said about the houses. I just could not remember what it was about them that made them so beautiful. But the writer gets it very well. The light was taken from all around and magnified throughout the house. The windows whould break the light into amazing colours and decorate the interior with rainbows of fantastic hue..then the walls would absorb and magnify the light, and sent it streaming outward..to the house next to it..and the process would repeat..along each house..all sharing this amazing visual display and amplifying it to its peak..only to send it along again to the next dwelling..and the next... Last Edited by Goat Hunter on 12/28/2012 02:02 AM Goat Hunter |
| Goat Hunter User ID: 10428279 United States12/28/2012 02:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the fact he knew angels did not have wings gives it real credence. The minute anyone has an nde or a vision and mentions angels with wing you KNOW its all crap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17453675 Not crap at all. But they may be in a higher heaven. i have been with them too. they would take me to the very highest elevation on a mountain peak and they would brush my hair and just take care of me in my darkest scariest days. They were at the safest of safe place for me. there were angels with wings who would watch so that no one else could come and find me. i needed tending to and they were truly beautiful and majestic and gentle, wonderful, caring beings. I remember now. They live in God's city. I remember being in the desert and willing to die there. did not want help and did not want to live life at all. But God told me I had to live and he would bring me to His city any way I wanted to go. He was willing to carry me but i chose to be dragged in the desert across rocks and dirt. I was totally pissed off that I had to go the His city and I damn well was not going through no golden gates. He said, "yes you are going" Eventually I did let Him carry me the rest of the way and he handed me over to His angels to be cared for. I could go visit Him anytime I wanted but I needed special care and His angels....with wings....were the beings just right for the job. It was glorious. I check in once in awhile. I think I need to check in a little more often. things are getting rough in this world and I need somewhere safe to go. Thanks for the reminder. Goat Hunter |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1488503 United Kingdom12/28/2012 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this on another forum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16256353 I thought I would post it here. I have never seen anyting like it. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I was raised an athiest. Utterly godless. Not even agnostic. No gods..fairies..santas or bunnies…Believed nothing at all. I saw all the trouble and confusion it caused and wanted nothing to do with it. I see Christians always fighting and debating and being hypocrites all the time. I see new agers not really having a clue what it is they actually beleive in, and going in circles. I see all the other religions all banging their head on a wall but achieving nothing but headaches. I wanted no part in it and still don’t. But I had a dream /vision when I was 15 that changed my life, but it was not until about a year ago it took effect, and according to the dream it will not be until after tomorrow, when I turn 44, that it finds fulfilment. I was 15...still a kid..but wondering what it was all about, seeing as everything was so totally pointless and without a reason or a goal. Being an athiest is the most pointless life one can live..so empty of purpose or meaning. And like all kids I needed purpose and meaning. So the dream./vision... It was September the 28th 1984....a day I will never forget, because its the day my life was taken right OUT of my hands, and I realised that none of us really have a choice...only a will directed by the one who makes the choices. I remember so clearly..sitting on my bed that night...looking out the window at the stars. Wondering why they were there..what purpose they served..if any at all. I remember asking the same thing of myself..what was my purpose..did I have a purpose...or was it all pointless..an illusion..meaningless and dead? That night I lay down on my bed..still wondering what it was all about...and I had a dream....or a vision..not sure which but it was incredibly vivid..I was there..could feel..hear..smell.... Where was I? (Keep in mind up UNTIL that point I had never even looked into a bible or any religious book..so what I saw was not previously planted in there) One moment I was on my bed..in a half awake half sleep state..a trance you might call it. That zone you are in where you are still aware but also..not aware. I found myself about 200 meters in the air...an air that was NOT air as we know it.I looked around in shock...I was there..this was no dream..I panicked at first cause I thought I was dead..and for all I know..I was. After adjusting to this "Shock" I was able to look around me..where I was...and what I saw....Spreading around me in every direction to a horizon that just was not there..was THE most incredible landscape I have ever seen. No majestic scene on earth comes close to this..awesome..the SCOPE of it...endless..and solid and real. Vast jungles..parks..majestic mighty mountains..oceans the size of earth itself..and lakes as big as oceans. Waterfalls a hundred kilometers high..mighty rivers packed with life..crystal clear...the trees...small and great..colourful..detailed..each one unique and some full of flowers of colours vivid and bright..some full of fruit of weird shapes and hue. ALL was alive..in a life that was LIFE..not just living things..but LIVING beings..they were not just alive..they WERE life in its essence...each leaf..blade of grass..creature and fish..bird and reptile..were not JUST alive..its like they WERE EMANATING life... This mighty and majestic landscape went on and on. What I thought were small hills in the distance, turned out to be mighty mountain ranges that make the himalayas look like a badly thought up joke in comparison. The waterfall immediatly to my left upon arrival there...WOW...it was (I later found out) over 300 kilometers form where I floated..and even at that distance it was so utterly magnificent...rising up and up..above eye level..like looking UP at a river..It decended down the side of a "small"(compared to some of the other mountains there) 100 kilometer high cliff face...falling..cascading..majestic..and throwing of rainbows in its mighty mist... I could go on and on about the details..but I am going to stick with the main part...and that is..WHO was standing "Or floating" there beside me..who until that moment I had not noticed.. I turned to my right...and...wow...there was this bloke...who I Immediatley KNEW was The creator of all I saw. I didnt know his name..I just KNEW HE was responsible for it all.. He was about 6 foot...medium build..strong..yet supple..he had an air of authority about him..like a mighty fighter who could whip anyones butt with ease..and KNEW it..but was humble and gentle and didnt brag about it. His hair was white...but not from age..more of a symbol of purity kind of white. Like a judge would wear a white wig as a symbol. But this hair was no wig. It was his own. He wore a sort of robe..not ancient..yet not modern. Like a royal robe of state. Across his chest from right shoulder to left hip was a red/purple sash about 6 inches wide, interwoven with gold threads. The robe went to just above his ankles. He had sandals on. But not ancient looking. More of a modern look. But in looking there..at his feet...I saw holes in them...Then with a shock..I saw his hands..they too had holes in them..just at the ends of his wrists..each hole about half an inch wide. There was no blood and the wounds were not festy or horrible. They..were worn like a status symbol..a mark..more than an annoying wound.I had the urge to kneel..but realised I didnt have a body to kneel with. So I just looked at him..KNOWING he could read every thought...and knew my intent was to kneel if only I could have.. He knew. He just smiled at me..joy glittering in his eyes..eyes..so..blue..gold..green...all colours..fire..eyes of fire..like an opal of magnificent brilliance. He seemed to radiate a real..freindliness..happiness..total peace..yet utter and mighty authority. You felt at ease with him..yet so humbled as well. I finally said to him(Well..I thought it)...."You are God?" He said simply..."(I AM)" I thought to myself "This cant be real..there IS no "God"...I am imagining all this..I MUST be... He smiled even broader..if that were possible..like he was amused at my simple yet certain belief in nothing. It was not a snide enjoyment he was feeling..it was more like you would smile at a toddler who said something cute. He said, knowing my turmoil and thoughts, "Come..let me show you your destiny" Egotistical bs |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16434086  Australia12/28/2012 03:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the fact he knew angels did not have wings gives it real credence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17453675 The minute anyone has an nde or a vision and mentions angels with wing you KNOW its all crap. Ex:25:20: And the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings, and their faces shall look one to another; toward the mercy seat shall the faces of the cherubims be. [link to www.blueletterbible.org] 1) cherub, cherubim (pl) a) an angelic being 1) as guardians of Eden 2) as flanking God's throne 3) as an image form hovering over the Ark of the Covenant 4) as the chariot of Jehovah (fig.) For those looking for the original g00gle the first line of the vision. Cherubim and seraphs are the ONLY angels that have wings. They are a special class. The majority of angels do NOT have wings. The meesenger and warrior class. |
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| Dr. know... User ID: 20588127 United States12/28/2012 06:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I found this on another forum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16256353 I thought I would post it here. I have never seen anyting like it. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I was raised an athiest. Utterly godless. Not even agnostic. No gods..fairies..santas or bunnies…Believed nothing at all. I saw all the trouble and confusion it caused and wanted nothing to do with it. I see Christians always fighting and debating and being hypocrites all the time. I see new agers not really having a clue what it is they actually beleive in, and going in circles. I see all the other religions all banging their head on a wall but achieving nothing but headaches. I wanted no part in it and still don’t. But I had a dream /vision when I was 15 that changed my life, but it was not until about a year ago it took effect, and according to the dream it will not be until after tomorrow, when I turn 44, that it finds fulfilment. I was 15...still a kid..but wondering what it was all about, seeing as everything was so totally pointless and without a reason or a goal. Being an athiest is the most pointless life one can live..so empty of purpose or meaning. And like all kids I needed purpose and meaning. So the dream./vision... It was September the 28th 1984....a day I will never forget, because its the day my life was taken right OUT of my hands, and I realised that none of us really have a choice...only a will directed by the one who makes the choices. I remember so clearly..sitting on my bed that night...looking out the window at the stars. Wondering why they were there..what purpose they served..if any at all. I remember asking the same thing of myself..what was my purpose..did I have a purpose...or was it all pointless..an illusion..meaningless and dead? That night I lay down on my bed..still wondering what it was all about...and I had a dream....or a vision..not sure which but it was incredibly vivid..I was there..could feel..hear..smell.... Where was I? (Keep in mind up UNTIL that point I had never even looked into a bible or any religious book..so what I saw was not previously planted in there) One moment I was on my bed..in a half awake half sleep state..a trance you might call it. That zone you are in where you are still aware but also..not aware. I found myself about 200 meters in the air...an air that was NOT air as we know it.I looked around in shock...I was there..this was no dream..I panicked at first cause I thought I was dead..and for all I know..I was. After adjusting to this "Shock" I was able to look around me..where I was...and what I saw....Spreading around me in every direction to a horizon that just was not there..was THE most incredible landscape I have ever seen. No majestic scene on earth comes close to this..awesome..the SCOPE of it...endless..and solid and real. Vast jungles..parks..majestic mighty mountains..oceans the size of earth itself..and lakes as big as oceans. Waterfalls a hundred kilometers high..mighty rivers packed with life..crystal clear...the trees...small and great..colourful..detailed..each one unique and some full of flowers of colours vivid and bright..some full of fruit of weird shapes and hue. ALL was alive..in a life that was LIFE..not just living things..but LIVING beings..they were not just alive..they WERE life in its essence...each leaf..blade of grass..creature and fish..bird and reptile..were not JUST alive..its like they WERE EMANATING life... This mighty and majestic landscape went on and on. What I thought were small hills in the distance, turned out to be mighty mountain ranges that make the himalayas look like a badly thought up joke in comparison. The waterfall immediatly to my left upon arrival there...WOW...it was (I later found out) over 300 kilometers form where I floated..and even at that distance it was so utterly magnificent...rising up and up..above eye level..like looking UP at a river..It decended down the side of a "small"(compared to some of the other mountains there) 100 kilometer high cliff face...falling..cascading..majestic..and throwing of rainbows in its mighty mist... I could go on and on about the details..but I am going to stick with the main part...and that is..WHO was standing "Or floating" there beside me..who until that moment I had not noticed.. I turned to my right...and...wow...there was this bloke...who I Immediatley KNEW was The creator of all I saw. I didnt know his name..I just KNEW HE was responsible for it all.. He was about 6 foot...medium build..strong..yet supple..he had an air of authority about him..like a mighty fighter who could whip anyones butt with ease..and KNEW it..but was humble and gentle and didnt brag about it. His hair was white...but not from age..more of a symbol of purity kind of white. Like a judge would wear a white wig as a symbol. But this hair was no wig. It was his own. He wore a sort of robe..not ancient..yet not modern. Like a royal robe of state. Across his chest from right shoulder to left hip was a red/purple sash about 6 inches wide, interwoven with gold threads. The robe went to just above his ankles. He had sandals on. But not ancient looking. More of a modern look. But in looking there..at his feet...I saw holes in them...Then with a shock..I saw his hands..they too had holes in them..just at the ends of his wrists..each hole about half an inch wide. There was no blood and the wounds were not festy or horrible. They..were worn like a status symbol..a mark..more than an annoying wound.I had the urge to kneel..but realised I didnt have a body to kneel with. So I just looked at him..KNOWING he could read every thought...and knew my intent was to kneel if only I could have.. He knew. He just smiled at me..joy glittering in his eyes..eyes..so..blue..gold..green...all colours..fire..eyes of fire..like an opal of magnificent brilliance. He seemed to radiate a real..freindliness..happiness..total peace..yet utter and mighty authority. You felt at ease with him..yet so humbled as well. I finally said to him(Well..I thought it)...."You are God?" He said simply..."(I AM)" I thought to myself "This cant be real..there IS no "God"...I am imagining all this..I MUST be... He smiled even broader..if that were possible..like he was amused at my simple yet certain belief in nothing. It was not a snide enjoyment he was feeling..it was more like you would smile at a toddler who said something cute. He said, knowing my turmoil and thoughts, "Come..let me show you your destiny"  Dr. know... |
| MHz User ID: 25505891 Canada12/28/2012 07:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cherubim and seraphs are the ONLY angels that have wings. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16434086 They are a special class. The majority of angels do NOT have wings. The meesenger and warrior class. So what, they are angelic, perhaps Lot met one of these Angels. I can see why wings wouldn't be part of the dress-code in that instance as well in other places in the OT, the point is some do have wings so the ones claiming none do are, ...... wait for it, ..... wrong. Heb:13:2: Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. |
| Citizenperth User ID: 30987609 Australia12/28/2012 07:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't agree. The bible clearly states it will be after several things happen. one is the rebuilding of the temple on the dome of the rock site. Way off in my opinion. No offense on your vision, but the bible also says many will come in my name and false prophets will abound. You need to use Jesus own clues and not lean to your own understanding. Quoting: knowing 25512421 When He said it would be after Israel was once again a nation, and that the generation that saw then become one again would not pass away until all is fulfilled He meant it. But yet a generation has passed away hasn't it? but did He mean the recognized term of a generation which is 20 years, or did he mean the very last person born during that time would still be alive? Obviously, He meant the very last person alive would see all fulfilled. Many years off imo...and the clues and the math match for a late date of around 2085 for all of this to start. We are commanded to occupy until then, and do our best to make the truth known. There is no rebuilding of the Temple. You are believing an evangelical lie. Scripture does not support such an idea. Read the Bible for yourself please, instead of believing what others have told you. Well then what do YOU say is to happen next? Do you really want to know? What I have to share with you will be quite unbelievable to you. However, if you choose to believe it may save your life. that's an oxymoron and i am finished with your thread... i think other thinkers should do likewise.. here is you thread to "shoot shit".. or oblivion.... you yourself will be judge eventusllly for worth.. no religious... but spiritually.. hey.. have fun.............. It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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| Louie User ID: 31013040 United States12/28/2012 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if this vision of OP is truthful, I have to wonder...because even numerous NDEs over the past few decades have also sent people back with future visions that don't seem to be happening as they said would happen. Of course, if we knew the future, it would take some of the purpose out of living in this dimension, so my take is -- Live In The Present... Easier said than done... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31013220 United States12/28/2012 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he said god does not discriminate, yet god gave hm the vision, why not god give us all the same vision, that way there would be no conflicts of argument since we all had the same visions, then we would all have to agree with the one god if we all had the same vision, why waste it on one man to convince 6 billion others, dont make sense does it, why would a god tell one person or show him a vision then expect that one person to tell the world, pathetic to say the least. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30985239 Your natural understanding is hopelessly flawed. Until you realize that, and stop counting yourself "wise" in your own eyes, you'll understand nothing. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30868707 Australia12/28/2012 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry OP and everyone else, but god does not exist and the OP is either lying or has vivid complex dreams/mental disillusions. If your life is shit, then it is, there is no god out there that cares about you or your shitty life. Might as well move on and try to make your life better instead of wishing a father/mother figure (god) will take you away from here. O just in case you missed the ones posted earlier  |
| ro User ID: 30903907 United States12/28/2012 09:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation |  thanks for sharing with us!!Ephesians 2:8-10 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-- not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24364556 United States12/28/2012 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This needs to be perma super pinned. How does a post like this even exist? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9258462 Most christians would cash in on a vision like this. You know..sell books..do meetings..and tell people rubbish about angels having wings. This guy does not. And the fact he knew angels did not have wings gives it real credence. The minute anyone has an nde or a vision and mentions angels with wing you KNOW its all crap. Theres actually a chakra between your shoulder blades and when energy is radiating from it it looks like wings. We are all angels in a sence but that chakra relates to communication. Angels can appear to have wings. Even angels can appear to have wings if you are trained to see energy. |
