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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30979759 United States 12/28/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6113187 Yeah... Some religi-tard is using this forum to proselytize for his yahweh. He claims he's not religious, yet his vision is riddled with Christian beliefs. He signed on as multiple people to attract attention. And the Jesus people (and new age people) are all over it .. They be like "oh, what a beautiful vision" "it resonates with me" "it must be true cuz believe it"! Someone karma pinned it. And today some mod red pins it. So basically, you're not missing anything! You're right about him signing on as different people tho, does he really think no one would figure it out? However, I've known him from different forums througout the last few years and have no doubt he is a sincere christian who experienced exactly what he wrote. So, he was a non-believer and he became a believer after the vision? He has end time visions? Is there more that I am missing? Hard to say what this guy believes. But he claims to be non-Christian (before and after his vision) His visions are riddled with Christian dogma. His end time is typical confusion - suppoosedly no one will no when the end will come. Yet he claims it'll happen shortly because he just had a birthday. Oh, jeez...it's silly and I can't believe I'm even posting about this crap So leave, believe whatever you want and let others believe what they want. As for not calling himself a christian he simply doesn't care for titles, he is clearly a follower of Jesus and the Bible. I have no problem with this. |
OP User ID: 11673097 Australia 12/28/2012 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I"d like to know what is the event that will change life as we know it in the west? Is it pole shift or something like that? Man made or natural disaster? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa I dont actually know WHAT the event is. All i know is that there is an event. Somthing that will change everything. I dont know WHEN it is either except that its next year sometime. Sorry I could not be of more help. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4520570 United States 12/28/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think the event will be the prophesize 3 days of darkness, and as the OP states, it will be brushed off shortly after as just another anomaly. But I caution everybody: The LORD is making Himself known to people personally. Infact He even came and paid me a visit just barely 3 weeks ago, and I nearly shatted myself. Of course I ran to GLP to post what had happened, but you all have Free Will to make your own decisions about things. Thread: John Lear may be wrong about Christ (Page 5) |
OP User ID: 11673097 Australia 12/28/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30979759 You're right about him signing on as different people tho, does he really think no one would figure it out? However, I've known him from different forums througout the last few years and have no doubt he is a sincere christian who experienced exactly what he wrote. So, he was a non-believer and he became a believer after the vision? He has end time visions? Is there more that I am missing? Hard to say what this guy believes. But he claims to be non-Christian (before and after his vision) His visions are riddled with Christian dogma. His end time is typical confusion - suppoosedly no one will no when the end will come. Yet he claims it'll happen shortly because he just had a birthday. Oh, jeez...it's silly and I can't believe I'm even posting about this crap So leave, believe whatever you want and let others believe what they want. As for not calling himself a christian he simply doesn't care for titles, he is clearly a follower of Jesus and the Bible. I have no problem with this. I WAS a total athiest UNTIL the vision..and a half decided athiest AFTER it..and not too long ago..a NON athiest. I only have different IP's all the time because I have a dynamic IP ,which quite often gets me banned...which is WHY I had to post the vision at the other place, because I spent christmas period from the 24th to the 28th banned from GLP simply because of my dynamic IP changing too many times in a day. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 Canada 12/28/2012 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This needs to be perma super pinned. How does a post like this even exist? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9258462 Most christians would cash in on a vision like this. You know..sell books..do meetings..and tell people rubbish about angels having wings. This guy does not. And the fact he knew angels did not have wings gives it real credence. The minute anyone has an nde or a vision and mentions angels with wing you KNOW its all crap. Theres actually a chakra between your shoulder blades and when energy is radiating from it it looks like wings. We are all angels in a sence but that chakra relates to communication. Angels can appear to have wings. Even angels can appear to have wings if you are trained to see energy. I had a vision of my lower self, in the underworld, having wings, that were black, the same color as his skin. My vision of this wasn't scary like the other visions I had, running away from it in fear. The vision was about what I fear most, holds my greatest strength, that is forgiveness. Also about judging something due to its looks. This goes along with my fear of spiders, also. I do believe Angels have wings, and I aint no religious guy, more spiritual than anything. The wings to me defines unity, and balance, of the female & male side of the body, or the chakras. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/28/2012 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I"d like to know what is the event that will change life as we know it in the west? Is it pole shift or something like that? Man made or natural disaster? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa I dont actually know WHAT the event is. All i know is that there is an event. Somthing that will change everything. I dont know WHEN it is either except that its next year sometime. Sorry I could not be of more help. That's ok. If you remember more, I hope you will come back and update for those of us who believe you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6113187 United States 12/28/2012 02:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dynamic IPs are the standard. I have a dynamic IP. It does not change unless you purposely reboot.., no one else here has complained of 4 days of ip changing. You acted like you were another person posting some one else's vision from another forum. Your vision is all Christian dogma. You spout a story that has no information that would benefit people. It's all fear. You offer no good news, other than for you personally. Everyone else is a non-Jesus eyed pawn with no hope to reach your "heaven". Only you and your daughters are guaranteed a place. Meanwhile, you want people to spend the next few months waiting for some kill-shot where we all die. But wait, you said there would be wars, famine and destruction, before or after this kill shot I have no idea. Fear-porn. For your Yahweh You realize you will pay karmic debt for misleading people? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6113187 Got news for you, I'm not atheist. I spoke true facts! What did I say above that's not true? Ok so you're a believer in a God who's not the christian one so of course you're going to have a problem with a christian sharing their experiences that promote christianity. And no christians don't consier themselves religious, as Jesus is not a religion but an actual person. I could care less about opinions...religious or otherwise. Unlike you, I can step aside and look at things objectively. All my words were based on FACT, whether I agreed with him or not. FACT: this guy lied (claiming to not be christian) FACT: he signs on as different users FACT: many posters are going gaga over his vision. They want sooo bad to have a daddy to take care of them FACT. I am the one who had the vision. FACT I WAS a total athiest UNTIL the vision..and a half decided athiest AFTER it..and not too long ago..a NON athiest. FACT I only have different IP's all the time because I have a dynamic IP ,which quite often gets me banned...which is WHY I had to post the vision at the other place, because I spent christmas period from the 24th to the 28th banned from GLP simply because of my dynamic IP changing too many times in a day. FACT..yes many posters are going gaga..and can you blame them? When I recalled the entire vision/dream..I was gaga for a while myself. Its amazing what realizing how LOVED you actually are..and that your life DOES have a purpose...does to your "gaga" levels. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25676821 United States 12/28/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sudden change, the world rocking event, the end of western civilazation that you speak about is the fall of Babylon the Great aka The United States of America. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21306218 But yeah, the fall of Babylon the Great aka the USA will be the CATACLYSMIC event which will devastate the world. It will be an ALL OUT sneak attack. Just like Pearl Harbor, except the attack will be nuclear and it will annihilate every city in America. Read Jeremiah 50 and 51 to see how devestating the attack will be. No one who is still living in Babylon, which will be countless hundreds of millions, will survive the attack. This will signal the beginning of the end. The first 4 seals will be broken and the end will be here. Seek the LORD while He may be found. Amen. Here's what I can't buy into: This so-called "ALL OUT sneak nuclear attack" on the US....that will destroy hundreds of millions.....I can't see it. If there were a nuclear attack THAT large, it would affect the entire planet, not just the US. I'm thinking more a meteor strike (one striking GOM has been suggested). This would send tsunamis up and down the entire gulf coast, devastating the entire eastern half of the country, I suspect. That sounds more plausible. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26795689 United States 12/28/2012 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I"d like to know what is the event that will change life as we know it in the west? Is it pole shift or something like that? Man made or natural disaster? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa I dont actually know WHAT the event is. All i know is that there is an event. Somthing that will change everything. I dont know WHEN it is either except that its next year sometime. Sorry I could not be of more help. Why is your story so inconsistent? Yesteday you proclaimed it was 'a few weeks away', now today you make a generalized assertion that it's 'next year sometime'. Well which is it? Surely 'a few weeks away' and 'next year sometime' are not the same time frame. The vision didnt "Predict" anything as such. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16770779 Just a general timeframe, most of it regarding me personally. The impression I got from it all..and going by the events in my own life which have taken place with a precision that is way past coincidence, is that my entire life was structured around the need to be ready for the end. That need to be ready starts today. So that being the case, and going by the timieframes given the beginning of the last few years...the main event that starts it all rolling is only a few weeks away. Also that it will be a sudden unexpected change. Why did you proclaim that there would be no warning, no prophet, no prediction about this event, yet here you are in fact acting as a prophet, a predictor, and a messenger by providing a warning and providing a specific time frame of when this will happen??? That is difficult to reconcile and make sense of. You are doing the very thing you allege will not happen. Lastly, why do you claim you want no part of religion yet you promote religious doctrine? You claim a 7 Year Tribulation period and promote the harvest/rapture and make biblical references. Does the same book that you make references to not state that no man shall see the face of 'God' and that no man shall know the time nor the day of the 'end'??? You've already stated that the end will occur in 2020. So how can you promote certain biblical concepts, while other elements of your story directly contradict what is written in that same religious text? Either you believe in the bible or you don't. Which is it??? I'm sorry to be blunt but none of this adds up to me and I suspect you were in fact the other two anonymous australian AC's creating threads on this 'story' yesterday. If it were just a story about heaven and a visit with 'God' I would not even bother to post in these threads but your message also contains elements designed to induce and generate fear in others and my intuition tells me this story is a work of fiction so I feel compelled to speak out about the contradictions and inconsistencies. I don't feel that anyone should be taken advantage of and encouraged to feel fear under false pretense. Just in case you forgot here were some of the words you used in your message: 'terrifying abyss' 'milllions dying, war, death' 'devastating, permanent end of western civilization' 'world shaking' 'sudden and shocking Time to come clean about your 'story' please. |
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IvantZtrooth User ID: 21403272 United States 12/28/2012 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like pure fiction for religitards to say "Wow, see that guy was atheist and was wrong" and if he did dream this, he claimed that he was atheist surrounded by people that believed in god and then he imagined what god would be like. big surprise. ive had plenty of meaningless VIVID dreams. doesnt make it the gospel. if i wrote a story about a dream with a back story of me believing the opposite, their would be the same reaction. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30265586 United States 12/28/2012 02:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only One Doctrine THE WORD OF GOD!!!! Spoken of By Jesus Christ! That and only That is Righteous! Quoting: 7is7the7way How do you which words were spoken, or which words that were infiltrated. Reading it and Letting God Think For You is the Only Way to The Truth! Listen to Your Inner Thoughts of Good, That is Your God! Everyones God is the Good inside Your Heart! |
Libra II User ID: 1001450 Denmark 12/28/2012 02:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I"d like to know what is the event that will change life as we know it in the west? Is it pole shift or something like that? Man made or natural disaster? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa I dont actually know WHAT the event is. All i know is that there is an event. Somthing that will change everything. I dont know WHEN it is either except that its next year sometime. Sorry I could not be of more help. I hate weather reporters. The bastards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30265586 United States 12/28/2012 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like pure fiction for religitards to say "Wow, see that guy was atheist and was wrong" and if he did dream this, he claimed that he was atheist surrounded by people that believed in god and then he imagined what god would be like. big surprise. ive had plenty of meaningless VIVID dreams. doesnt make it the gospel. if i wrote a story about a dream with a back story of me believing the opposite, their would be the same reaction. What is Fiction when you dont even Understand why your here? Not knowing why your here you continue wasting your time setting yourself back by calling B.S. Remember This Message is Good in our Hearts! Leave Them From your bad Words! Pour Good into the Conversation and Our Hearts will Feel the Heavenly Path of Light :) Peace! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1370992 Canada 12/28/2012 02:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only One Doctrine THE WORD OF GOD!!!! Spoken of By Jesus Christ! That and only That is Righteous! Quoting: 7is7the7way How do you which words were spoken, or which words that were infiltrated. Reading it and Letting God Think For You is the Only Way to The Truth! Listen to Your Inner Thoughts of Good, That is Your God! Everyones God is the Good inside Your Heart! That was well said, and I agree 100% with that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6113187 United States 12/28/2012 02:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like pure fiction for religitards to say "Wow, see that guy was atheist and was wrong" and if he did dream this, he claimed that he was atheist surrounded by people that believed in god and then he imagined what god would be like. big surprise. ive had plenty of meaningless VIVID dreams. doesnt make it the gospel. if i wrote a story about a dream with a back story of me believing the opposite, their would be the same reaction. Exactly. This is typical religion or cult recruiting: 1) Claim you aren't a part of a group 2) claim certain powers, or visions come to you without you requesting it 3) Therefore, it must be "real" and your group (and beliefs) is now validated. 4) announce it to believers and non-believers as "proof" (for that group or beliefs) you are right. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30265586 United States 12/28/2012 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is only One Doctrine THE WORD OF GOD!!!! Spoken of By Jesus Christ! That and only That is Righteous! Quoting: 7is7the7way How do you which words were spoken, or which words that were infiltrated. Reading it and Letting God Think For You is the Only Way to The Truth! Listen to Your Inner Thoughts of Good, That is Your God! Everyones God is the Good inside Your Heart! That was well said, and I agree 100% with that. Remember You were Given Gifts To Decipher evil in the world by Feeling the Message if it is Good give it Twice as Much Good Back and You Have Twofold Good back:) If its bad, Give it Twofold Good and You receive Fourfold back and it Multiplies the More People That You Have Giving and Holding Good to be The True Life! |
IvantZtrooth User ID: 21403272 United States 12/28/2012 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sounds like pure fiction for religitards to say "Wow, see that guy was atheist and was wrong" and if he did dream this, he claimed that he was atheist surrounded by people that believed in god and then he imagined what god would be like. big surprise. ive had plenty of meaningless VIVID dreams. doesnt make it the gospel. if i wrote a story about a dream with a back story of me believing the opposite, their would be the same reaction. What is Fiction when you dont even Understand why your here? Not knowing why your here you continue wasting your time setting yourself back by calling B.S. Remember This Message is Good in our Hearts! Leave Them From your bad Words! Pour Good into the Conversation and Our Hearts will Feel the Heavenly Path of Light :) Peace! what you used to infer that i was wrong in your first sentence, proves you wrong as well. do you even hear yourself? you basically said you don't believe anything is real or fake and then you told me how i should be more like you lol, so delusional |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6113187 United States 12/28/2012 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Once again Anhedonic, you post an intelligent and well-thought out response. Sadly, the believers will believe what they what...yet they won't see the common sense you write here. Sad because they prefer a fear-based story riddled with inconsistencies instead of inner strength and personal spiritual quests. OP, I"d like to know what is the event that will change life as we know it in the west? Is it pole shift or something like that? Man made or natural disaster? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa I dont actually know WHAT the event is. All i know is that there is an event. Somthing that will change everything. I dont know WHEN it is either except that its next year sometime. Sorry I could not be of more help. Why is your story so inconsistent? Yesteday you proclaimed it was 'a few weeks away', now today you make a generalized assertion that it's 'next year sometime'. Well which is it? Surely 'a few weeks away' and 'next year sometime' are not the same time frame. The vision didnt "Predict" anything as such. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16770779 Just a general timeframe, most of it regarding me personally. The impression I got from it all..and going by the events in my own life which have taken place with a precision that is way past coincidence, is that my entire life was structured around the need to be ready for the end. That need to be ready starts today. So that being the case, and going by the timieframes given the beginning of the last few years...the main event that starts it all rolling is only a few weeks away. Also that it will be a sudden unexpected change. Why did you proclaim that there would be no warning, no prophet, no prediction about this event, yet here you are in fact acting as a prophet, a predictor, and a messenger by providing a warning and providing a specific time frame of when this will happen??? That is difficult to reconcile and make sense of. You are doing the very thing you allege will not happen. Lastly, why do you claim you want no part of religion yet you promote religious doctrine? You claim a 7 Year Tribulation period and promote the harvest/rapture and make biblical references. Does the same book that you make references to not state that no man shall see the face of 'God' and that no man shall know the time nor the day of the 'end'??? You've already stated that the end will occur in 2020. So how can you promote certain biblical concepts, while other elements of your story directly contradict what is written in that same religious text? Either you believe in the bible or you don't. Which is it??? I'm sorry to be blunt but none of this adds up to me and I suspect you were in fact the other two anonymous australian AC's creating threads on this 'story' yesterday. If it were just a story about heaven and a visit with 'God' I would not even bother to post in these threads but your message also contains elements designed to induce and generate fear in others and my intuition tells me this story is a work of fiction so I feel compelled to speak out about the contradictions and inconsistencies. I don't feel that anyone should be taken advantage of and encouraged to feel fear under false pretense. Just in case you forgot here were some of the words you used in your message: 'terrifying abyss' 'milllions dying, war, death' 'devastating, permanent end of western civilization' 'world shaking' 'sudden and shocking Time to come clean about your 'story' please. |
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OP User ID: 17402180 Australia 12/28/2012 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I"d like to know what is the event that will change life as we know it in the west? Is it pole shift or something like that? Man made or natural disaster? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa I dont actually know WHAT the event is. All i know is that there is an event. Somthing that will change everything. I dont know WHEN it is either except that its next year sometime. Sorry I could not be of more help. Why is your story so inconsistent? Yesteday you proclaimed it was 'a few weeks away', now today you make a generalized assertion that it's 'next year sometime'. Well which is it? Surely 'a few weeks away' and 'next year sometime' are not the same time frame. The vision didnt "Predict" anything as such. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16770779 Just a general timeframe, most of it regarding me personally. The impression I got from it all..and going by the events in my own life which have taken place with a precision that is way past coincidence, is that my entire life was structured around the need to be ready for the end. That need to be ready starts today. So that being the case, and going by the timieframes given the beginning of the last few years...the main event that starts it all rolling is only a few weeks away. Also that it will be a sudden unexpected change. Why did you proclaim that there would be no warning, no prophet, no prediction about this event, yet here you are in fact acting as a prophet, a predictor, and a messenger by providing a warning and providing a specific time frame of when this will happen??? That is difficult to reconcile and make sense of. You are doing the very thing you allege will not happen. Lastly, why do you claim you want no part of religion yet you promote religious doctrine? You claim a 7 Year Tribulation period and promote the harvest/rapture and make biblical references. Does the same book that you make references to not state that no man shall see the face of 'God' and that no man shall know the time nor the day of the 'end'??? You've already stated that the end will occur in 2020. So how can you promote certain biblical concepts, while other elements of your story directly contradict what is written in that same religious text? Either you believe in the bible or you don't. Which is it??? I'm sorry to be blunt but none of this adds up to me and I suspect you were in fact the other two anonymous australian AC's creating threads on this 'story' yesterday. If it were just a story about heaven and a visit with 'God' I would not even bother to post in these threads but your message also contains elements designed to induce and generate fear in others and my intuition tells me this story is a work of fiction so I feel compelled to speak out about the contradictions and inconsistencies. I don't feel that anyone should be taken advantage of and encouraged to feel fear under false pretense. Just in case you forgot here were some of the words you used in your message: 'terrifying abyss' 'milllions dying, war, death' 'devastating, permanent end of western civilization' 'world shaking' 'sudden and shocking Time to come clean about your 'story' please. A few weeks away IS "next year sometime". And also...when I said a "few weeks away" I said I "FELT" it was..it was just an impression of time..not certain..like..you KNOW there is a storm coming because you can see the clouds building..you KNOW its soon..but you DONT know when exactly it WILL hit...you just KNOW it will. It could be more than a "Few weeks" probably is...but the general impression either way..if you are NOT getting pedantinc about WORDS..and willingly ignoring the fact that I STATED it was ONLY an "Impression" and not a fact...is that its SOON..and NEXT YEAR. And as for generating fear...we have the daily news for that. How have I generated fear by stating in a vague uncertain way what everyone else here states so clearly in graphic detail? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6113187 United States 12/28/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the ones who don't believe the OP's story, why does it bother you so much? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa If you don't like it, just move on. Because his story is fear-based with no direction and many inconsistencies. And we have a right to question it. Right? Or do you simply "move on" when you don't agree with the lies the govt feeds you? Some of us like to shed light on the stories that are misleading and inconsistent. Personally, I like to use my brain. It's what makes us human. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1106916 United States 12/28/2012 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the ones who don't believe the OP's story, why does it bother you so much? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa If you don't like it, just move on. Because his story is fear-based with no direction and many inconsistencies. And we have a right to question it. Right? Or do you simply "move on" when you don't agree with the lies the govt feeds you? Some of us like to shed light on the stories that are misleading and inconsistent. Personally, I like to use my brain. It's what makes us human. If I think something is complete and total fantasy, I just move on and ignore it. If someone posted that they had a dream of flying unicorns eating popcorn, I wouldn't waste my time. Me thinks that you guys do believe it, and it frightens you for some reason. Peace. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30265586 United States 12/28/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To the ones who don't believe the OP's story, why does it bother you so much? Quoting: Lisa*Lisa If you don't like it, just move on. Because his story is fear-based with no direction and many inconsistencies. And we have a right to question it. Right? Or do you simply "move on" when you don't agree with the lies the govt feeds you? Some of us like to shed light on the stories that are misleading and inconsistent. Personally, I like to use my brain. It's what makes us human. If I think something is complete and total fantasy, I just move on and ignore it. If someone posted that they had a dream of flying unicorns eating popcorn, I wouldn't waste my time. Me thinks that you guys do believe it, and it frightens you for some reason. Peace. Everyone WAIT!!! We all Go together Like Peanut Butter and Jelly, We dont want Nuts in ours Though :) Peace and Love Brothers and Sisters. |