A Vision/Dream from an AC 28 years ago about to be fulfilled?

'Next year sometime' allows for a 12 month window

'A few weeks away' allows for a window of a 'few weeks'

Can you see how these are not one in the same?

You did not address the very important contradiction in your story abot how there will be no warning, no prophet, and no messenger predicting this event, yet you are here doing just that. Please explain.

Your reply also did not address why you claim you want no part of religion yet you promote certain biblical concepts while your other statements lie in contradiction to what is found in the same religious text. Can you explain that please?

Please do not pawn your statements off as 'general impressions' when you claim with specificity that these events will transpire from 2013 to 2020 and you state with specificity that 'millions will die' and that Western civilization will be permanently devastated and it will be a 'terrifying abyss'. These are not 'general impressions' but bold and specific predictions. You claim these predictions on the heels of claiming a 'divine encounter' with 'God', so those reading your predictions will assign an element of perceived validity/credibility to them.

P.S. I speak out in other threads against those who propogate fear in others under perceived false pretense and your situation is quite different then doom THEORIES because you claim a divine encounter with 'God'. Can you see the difference?

I recognize your writing style through the random capitalization of words in your sentences. You are the Australian AC who uses sarcasm to go after Christians who promote the fire & brimstone / HELL false doctrine. I respected those posts of yours because you were working to counteract unnecessary fear-mongering under false pretense. I am having a hard time digesting your story with all it's contradictions and inconsistencies and the wording of your 'general impression' of the consequencies of this event seems to accomplish the very same thing that your prior posts were designed to work against.

Oh, is this AC the same australian AC guy that obsesses over hell every single day???? Are they the same AC?

If you have to Question it Go with your Gut.

I don't think it's the same guy. I could be wrong and don't want to derail the thread.

Sorry OP!

Hmmmm.... But you didn't "move on" after reading our posts that called out the OP, did you? If you think we are wrong, why not move on yourself? Why tell US to move on?

And then you compare a dream about flying unicorns to the OPs fear porn and religious dogma?

Perhaps you shouldn't judge people and tell them what they--thinks, based on how you-thinks?

Just because you would move on doesnt mean everyone else would.

You obviously are reflecting you're own perceptions and beliefs onto other people. So that would mean YOU are the one that's scared.

Keep telling yourself your lies, it clearly makes you feel good.

peace

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What are you talking about? I've never been a pre-tribber. I'm a hard core post tribber, last trump.

You are getting people confused here....

This^

Thank you

Okay my appologies, it's difficult to keep mental tabs on who advocates what. I edited my post.

No problem.....

Yes the same writing style with the spaced apart lines and the intermittent capitalization/emphasis of words. But it's important to note those posts about 'hell' are cleverly veiled sarcasm that is designed to confront and corner those here who actually promote that doctrine. I respect those posts because they are designed to counteract those who are intentionally spreading hate/fear.

Im trying to answer ten questions at once..give me time OK.

You are not the only one I am trying to help.

Nor are your questions the only ones.

So I will try now to answer a couple more you have raised.



You said..

Please do not pawn your statements off as 'general impressions' when you claim with specificity that these events will transpire from 2013 to 2020 and you state with specificity that 'millions will die' and that Western civilization will be permanently devastated and it will be a 'terrifying abyss'.

Fair enough..I can see how you got the impression.

Let me clarify it in no uncertain terms.

Everything you said there that I said IS TRUE.

What I described there WILL happen.

I am not the only one saying this..and any watching of the daily doom here at GLP and anyone CAN SEE the writing IS ON THE WALL.

How am I at fault for stating the rather obvious?

In the past when prophets warned of doom no one liked them either. thier message was not a happy one.

It did not make them wrong..it just made them very unpopular.

Would you rather I say everything is nice and peachy and decieve people into thinking nothing will ever change and they can go on their merry way..not worrying about forgiveness..or mercy..and compassion..and learning real love isnstead of hate while they still have time?

because my dear friend..you know..and I know..and we all know...this world IS getting darker and darker...any glance at the news will tell you this..

Are you saying I should speak pece peace..when ther is no peace?

Shuld I clearly see a world event coming and say nothing?

If I was just talking doom I could understand your stance..but my main focus has been love..forgiveness..character..mercy..compassion..to be READY for the times ahead.

I am not preaching "Entertainment"..nor tickling peoples ears telling them what they WANT to hear..Im telling them what they NEED...because this world is dark..and getting darker.

In the time full of lies...truth is hated.


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You also said..

I recognize your writing style through the random capitalization of words in your sentences. You are the Australian AC who uses sarcasm to go after Christians who promote the fire & brimstone / HELL false doctrine. I respected those posts of yours because you were working to counteract unnecessary fear-mongering under false pretense.

Some of that is true.

I did do a few posts like that. But I was very frustrated at the time. I was coming to the end of my tether.

I had to vent.

I was set off by that poster and he gave me a few ideas. I saw the truth behind the anger and thats probably why I made some posts like it myself a few months back. Because I too was angry with "religion". In my long search I tried churches as well..and they just left me betrayed and angry and hurt. So I got disgruntled at them...at life.

There is more than one disgruntled aussie on here you know.

And the reason I write like him is because I spent a lot of time reading his posts. So when I wrote similar it came out similar.

I am not that man you think I am but yes you are right,..I did do some posts like his.

But mine had far less swearing in them.

I usually just stuck to the facts.

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You also said this..

You did not address the very important contradiction in your story abot how there will be no warning, no prophet, and no messenger predicting this event, yet you are here doing just that. Please explain.

So I will explain what I meant by that.

Whatever this event is..whenever it happens..NO one will actually be able to say what it is or when it will happen.

There will not be a single person who will warn of it and see it coming except right at the last second.

Thats what I meant.

I am warning of the fact that there will BE no warning.

No one will remeber this post..of what I said.

In a few months I will be forgotten..this warning will be forgotten..life will go on..nothing will change.

No one will see it coming...nor warn of its approach.


Take for example that quake in Haitii a few years back..how utterly devastating it was...how it changed their whole world there in one moment.

Now imagine this..

Imagine there was a person living there say, six to twelve months before. He was online and posted on a blog there that something terrible was going to happen. He said he didnt know what..only that it was within 12 months of his posting. He also knew that NO one would see it coming or be ready and he also stated that NO one would give warning or predict it.


A few people might have listened..some mocking..others totally ignoring. Its just another whackjob making a doom post about nothing in particular.

Few months later his post is utterly forgotten. No one remembers him or his post,no prophet is warning of anything coming, their witchdoctors dont even see it, their shamaans the same..NO one saw it come.

And it hit like a ton of bricks on a day like any other out of the blue.

Do you understand now what I mean?

This coming event will be just like that.

I'm just going to put this out there for a moment. I'm not defending the o.p. or the other side of this argument. If he lied, he lied. But using Christian dogma as proof of this is just dumb.

Christian dogma is so ingrained into western civilzation (spelling?) That you would have to be deaf, dumb, and blind not to know it.

I appreciate you at least taking the time to address my questions.

Are you saying you are not the Australian AC who goes after those who preach about 'hell', but that you have been intentionally trying to mimic/copy his posts? Does that not seem disingenuous? Why try to emulate someone else's writing style? Are you right now trying to emulate others with this story and your doom prediction? I have to be honest when I say I feel you are indeed the other anonymous AC who has been writing those previous posts mentioned above.

You said this above:
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Whatever this event is..whenever it happens..NO one will actually be able to say what it is or when it will happen.

There will not be a single person who will warn of it and see it coming except right at the last second.
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You claim this yet you have informed everyone this will occur from 2013 until 2020 and have boldy stated that it will begin anywhere from 'a few weeks' from now to 'sometime next year'. Can you see why it is difficult to conclude you are being honest when you make a bold prediction yet also state that no one can say when this will happen and that not a single person will warn or see it coming? This is a big contradiction.

Lastly, can you also address how you picked and chose which biblical doctrine you adhere to? The 7 year tribulation & rapture/harvest are one thing, but the same text also states that NO MAN will know the time/day of tribulation. Your very specific posts about 'a few weeks away' and your specificity of the 2013-2020 time period seem to lie in direct contradiction to other biblical doctrine. So I'm trying to reconcile how you have selectively decided which doctrine to subscribe to while ignoring other elements of the same text. For someone who refered to other christians as 'hypocrites' and stated that you want no part of 'religion', this is puzzling.

Thank you.

P.S. I agree with what you have subsequently communicated about the importance of 'forgiveness'. That is the one element of 'truth' that I have discerned in your messages.

Firstly - just have to say - those that give a barrage of insults to another poster and then finish off with saying 'peace'....urm...are you bi-polar or something?

How on earth can someone embrace peace after being insulted?

Just don't do it - wishing peace - trying to appear 'good-willing' after insulting someone. You're just displaying true colours of getting off more on arguing instead of enjoy interaction discussing differences of opinion.



I find the vision intriguing personally. I'm also considered 'classically atheist' yet experienced, when young, a similar vision of the world the OP posted.

Also i had a lucid dream a couple of years ago now (lucid dream is when you KNOW in the dream you are dreaming - it's different to a 'vivid' dream...however lucid dreams are usually very vivid too. I was taught a technique in a buddhist book - thought i'd give it a go! There were monks everywhere in the dream)
In this dream i met a man strangely similar in appearance and personality as is described in the OP - but i did not notice stigmata on hands or feet.

I would have - for this man took my hand, leading me down a dirt road in some desert-based country, after we fled a temple built of massive reddish stone, that had collapsed around us.
I've barely travelled in this life physically and have no idea where this place was - when i saw pics of the 'wailing wall' temple it reminded me alot of the place i was in my dream.

He took my hand - i thought i was with my boyfriend until i looked up and saw his face...i was completely , utterly drawn-in by his face....eyes as pure blue, sparkling silvery green...incredible eyes. Skin, thin, as he was old in years but fairly taught. White hair...brushed back.

I looked at his huge hand in mine and thought to myself as i looked at him 'Does he know he's holding my hand?'...that's when he turned his head to me for the first time and telepathically replied 'Yes, i know i've got your hand'. (That's when i noticed his eyes...skin...face...and was enthralled before waking up)

Writing it down actually does not do justice the experience or help convey the feeling of the experience within the dream. It's like trying to describe the tastiest dessert but all you can manage to say is YUMMMMMM! Hahahaaa...

I have no idea what visions and dreams mean - they oftentimes reveal themselves in time. I've had a couple of visions come to pass and although at the time of the vision you think 'how can that be? - surely not' - time does a thing of warping reality until the necessary components are in place for that vision to 'become reality'.

Ever since these visions and dreams i have not given my devotion to a particular religion or spiritual practice...i'm just on earth wanting to explore my being-ness and awareness.yet i continue to have visions/dreams come to me - not often at all...but when they do they wobble your world a bit, but hindsight has taught me to be patient....and i am....pertaining to a glorious landscape and crystal-eyes beings walking among us....i'd wait a lifetime for that....wouldn't you?

:-)

I have another question OP, did you get any information or any understanding on pre-human existence? I mean, did our souls exist before being born on earth?

This is something I've wondered for years. Have read many experiences and some say yes, some say no, and I"m on the fence about it. I just don't know either way.

My goodness, I find it disheartening that so many people get on here just to be nasty, assume someone is lying, demand "proof", and to try and discredit. This man shared his story. Plain and simple. If someone does not believe it why can't they just move on to another thread? He is speaking of peace and love, good qualities that I which more of us had. And as far as his vision of what will happen in the future, take it or leave it. He isn't selling anything or earning any money from this. If he can reach a few souls, or even just one for that matter, and make their life more meaningful then what is the harm done? There are posters on here starting threads such as "my poo was green today - ask me a question". This one, however, recounts one man's experience and speaks NOT of hate or ignorance, but just the opposite, though there is so much bitterness posted in people's responses. Our future generation and our world in general is in big trouble.

+10000

Dang and I just used my last karma vote...I'll get you tomorrow (:

Now THAT is a very interesting question.

When I was there as a neborn having died twice in the hospital, he told me that I was "Fresh from his mind"..from his very spirit.

So from what I can gather from that is that we exists IN him..as part of him..he has us in mind all along.

We exist as part of him ready for the pre planned moment of our being sent FROM him into the bodies he prepared for us at conception.

Each soul waits IN him for their moment of "Being" in actuality.

So in a way..id have to say yes...we do exist before we are born but as a pre planned fully contructed "Thought"..a spark..waiting for our moment of conception.

He said in the bible of david and jeremiah "before you were born I KNEW you"...he already knows us..and all our days are already pre plenned and laid out waiting simply for us to live them.

Those who die as infants or are killed in abortions are also known...and that explains why there are so many children there..millions upon millions of them..

Jesus KNEW..thats why he said of babies and children "For SUCH is the kingdom of heaven"

Hows that?

Its the best I can do considering what I know of the bible..and what jesus told me about my visit as an
infant...and also why there are so many kids in heaven..inocent and free.

That was always their destiny.

A sad one..considering they missed their life on earth..but a PLANNED one..in that it was already taken into account and they too have their part to play..but not on earth...at least..not yet.

Yeah! I'll go with that too.

Well, I can't go along with that being their destiny because evil is not the will of God.

It's the outcome alot of the time, but only because of free will. When children were being sacrificed to Molech, the Lord was horrified, so obviously that was not their destiny. It was a sad result of sin and free will.

I guess there are just some questions that we don't get to know until we get to meet Him face to face and ask.

Why do you judge people who point out inconsistencies and lies, and assume they are bitter? Because they don't agree with you?

The OP is a pied piper. He sings a pretty tune and leads people into his lies.

If you want to believe, perhaps take your own advice and leave alone those who point out the emperor has no cltothes.

And for the record, there are a lot more threads to get involved with than just green poo and Jesus.

I agree..evil is NOT the will of God.

But he also forsaw that evil and let them be concieved anyway..which can ONLY mean he had already taken their early demise into account..he must have a reason and a plan because he CANT make mistakes.

So there is a reason..something we cant see..as to WHY.

It will never be heard from Gods mouth "OOPS..I stuffed up"

He KNEW about all those babies dying..and because of free will he had to let em all be born anyway..but being God he does have a purpose for them..to allow it to happen.

Those little ones...they never knew the pain of life..they never knew the agony of sin..they are all innocent and will grow up in the most amazing place a child could wish for.

As to why??....well..perhaps we will see why during the 1000 years...perhaps all those who never had a chnace at a real family will be given a group of happy full of life young children to raise..recompensing them for all they missed on earth.

He did say we would recieve 100 times more in return..and what about the mothers of those babies?

Many of them will repent..and have already repented..perhaps..God will allow them to raise their little ones..in perfect happiness..and joy.

Nothing is ever wasted with God..and when he makes a promise he keeps it.

So..with much anticipation..I look forward to just what joys this upcoming millenium will bring.

I don't see this as contradictory. He has said there will be a large, devastating event that will change everything. (paraphrasing, that's my impression) However there will be little to no warning of it when it occurs. Any number of things could fit this description, from a massive earthquake to a collision with a comet/asteroid. He's just saying this WILL occur, and gives a timeframe, but he himself is not able to say when, nor give us any warning of what it is or even how to get ready for it, other tnan spiritually. I find that consistent, not contradictory.

Actually I think it would be their destiny.
Because even if horrible things happen as a result of free will,God knew what ever choice would ultimately lead us to before we were created.

Some of us have the destiny of being servants of God here on earth.While perhaps these murdered little ones purpose was to add to the fullness of the wrath of God leading until the end of days.Did Jesus not say that the spilled blood of every single innocent who's ever lived would be brought up against the devil and his followers in the last days?

This would include Abel,the slain prophets,Jesus himself,Stephen and other martyrs.And yes..even innocent babies that were aborted.

Do you want to know how you can be certain that the author of this story is a liar? The opening post of this thread states:

"I found this on another forum

I thought I would post it here.

I have never seen anything like it."

It was written by an anonymous AC from australia. Now the self-proclaimed author of the vision (also an anonymous AC from australia) is responding within this thread and changing his displayed name from anonymous coward to 'OP' (see his last post on this page). Original Poster. The author of the vision is indicating he was the one who created this thread when the opening post clearly indicates that this story was found on another forum and that he's "never seen anything like it".

That right there tells you that this thread was created to bait you into believing this story even when he originally pretends not to be the author of the story but later posts in his own thread claiming to be 'OP' of the thread as well as the author of the story. The writing style is exactly the same too with spaced apart lines rather than complete paragraphs.

This was nothing but a poorly contrived fictional narrative pawned off as the 'truth.

Three threads created yesterday by 3 Australian AC's with different userid's and now we know by the author's own admission that his IP constantly changes (and thus his userid) on his 'dynamic network' because he is using his phone to connect. That right there tells you that he was the author of all 3 threads yesterday even though in this thread he originally claims not to be the author of the vision/experience but returns to the thread a day later as the self-designated "OP" to clarify the fictional narrative as the alleged author.

Lets get this stright once and for all.



Right now I will say for the TENTH time so far (Which for some reasson either you have NOT read or refuse to read) the reason why I posted at the other forum first and not here and why I have to call myself OP as in..THE AUTHOR of the vision.

Over christimas I was blanket banned.

When I recieved the full recall of what hapenned to me my first though was to post it HERE.

But I could not.

I had been blanket banned along with half my entire country as trin likes to do from the 24th till the 28th.

OUR time..not america time.

So I posted in there (the other forum) on the fouth page of a thread.

I was just another AC there as I am here.

Someone from MY country took that post and posted it here and I did not KNOW they did because I was BANNED from even viewing this website.

Later that day when I logged on here to see if I was still banned ot not I wasn't.

I then found someone else had already taken it from that other site and posted it here.

So for a while I just watched to see what would happen.

Later that day a lot of people were asking questions and I felt I had to own up to the vision as the author of it.

Thats why I called myself OP...as in the AUTHOR of the vision..NOT the thread..as is SO abvious to others except YOU for some reason.

I even went so far as to start a thread just to answer questions about it.

And now we have you trolling me around trying your hardest to pull to peices with all your might the message of love and forgiveness..hope and mercy..

I wonder why?

WHAT are you so terribly afraid of?

Yes. Why not just go to your weird blog page and talk about nothing.

This vision has a ring of truth for those that can hear!