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Sometimes, I have my doubts about God

 
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
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When do you start blaming the real culprit here....HUMANS fucked the world up.
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shit happens.
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
 Quoting: Is he really by our side? 30947405


When do you start blaming the real culprit here....HUMANS fucked the world up.
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shit happens.
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Thanks, Einstein.
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
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There are more times that God has doubts about you. ohyeah
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
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There are more times that God has doubts about you. ohyeah
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well, we're not interested in God's opinion.
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
 Quoting: Is he really by our side? 30947405


There are more times that God has doubts about you. ohyeah
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well, we're not interested in God's opinion.
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You mean you're not Him?
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
 Quoting: Is he really by our side? 30947405


There are more times that God has doubts about you. ohyeah
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well, we're not interested in God's opinion.
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You mean you're not Him?
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do you see anyone interested in my opinion?
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"Those who say, don't know
And those who know, don't say."
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
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There are more times that God has doubts about you. ohyeah
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well, we're not interested in God's opinion.
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Now that is typically a case of multiple personality disorder. grinning
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do you see anyone interested in my opinion?
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I don't see a lot of people using the word opinion when discussing you.
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do you see anyone interested in my opinion?
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I don't see a lot of people using the word opinion when discussing you.
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i know. look at all my red karma. huffy
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
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Wednesday, December 26, 2012

THE SIN THAT MAKES GOD CRY

Let me give it to you straight—no beating around the bush and no soft-pedaling. The sin that makes God cry is being committed daily, not by pagan workers of iniquity but by multitudes of Christians—the sin of doubting God's love for His children.

Do you think it makes God sound too human and vulnerable to say that He cries? Then ask yourself how a God of love could not cry when His own people doubt His very nature. Jesus Christ was God in the flesh, and according to the book of John He wept when those closest to Him doubted His love and concern. That was God incarnate at the tomb of Lazarus, crying over friends who failed to recognize who He was.

Time and time again Christ's dearest associates on this earth doubted His love for them. Think of the disciples in a storm-tossed boat that was taking on water. Jesus was in the stern of the boat, sound asleep. Fearing for their lives, His followers shook Him awake and then accused Him of outright unconcern. "Master, carest thou not that we perish?" (Mark 4:38). How their accusation must have grieved the Lord! That was God Almighty in their boat! How could He not care? But whenever men take their eyes off the Lord and concentrate instead on their circumstances, doubt always takes over. Jesus was astounded! "How can you be afraid when I am with you? How can you question My love and care?"

Christians today grieve the Lord in this matter even more. Our unbelief is a greater affront to Him than the unbelief of Mary, Martha, and all the disciples, for our sin is committed against greater light. We stand on a higher mountain and see more than they could ever see. We have a completed Bible with a full and detailed record of God's trustworthiness. We have the written testimonies of almost twenty centuries of Christians, generation after generation of godly fathers who have passed down to us unshakable proofs of God's love. And we have countless personal experiences that testify to God's tender love and affection for us.

Let us look for His exceeding mercy and love, admit the sinfulness of our unbelief, and recognize who He is!
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OH, please, give me a break. You obviously have never read the Bible. The God of the Bible is the most evil creation that any human has ever imagined. He tortures most of humanity forever, remembering that Jesus said the road is narrow and few find the way. Could you torture your beloved child forever if he didn't believe in your ideas or didn't worship you? If you say you couldn't, then you have higher moral values than the God you worship.

Then you stupid Christians say, "Yes, he tortures most of humanity forever, but HE LOVES YOU." LOL, I don't think there is a more stupid group of people on this planet than Christians. They tell you to turn from your sins and repent. But they think THEY get to heaven simply because they believe in Jesus. They are arrogant, self-righteous, greedy, bigots who hate their enemies (and they never repent of THOSE sins)5a, but they think a "belief" will get them into heaven. And they are A-OK with the fact that the God they "love" tortures most people forever. And then they type up flowery garbage, like that above, and think people should buy it. To that I say, GROW UP.
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Sometimes, I stop thinking about all the disgraces in this world, and I come to a point where I get a little suspicious, about God's actions.......could he be just a sadistic fucker, watching our pain and laughing on us?
 Quoting: Is he really by our side? 30947405


When do you start blaming the real culprit here....HUMANS fucked the world up.
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shit happens.
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Humans fucked the world up, and God (who can do ANYTHING, apparently) uses his power to do ANYTHING to do NOTHING at all. He sits up in heaven, polishing his fingernails that nice black color that he loves, and he WATCHES while innocent little children are gunned down. He doesn't stop the gun man because, well, you know, humans are so fucking evil. GROW UP. There is no God. Get over yourself.
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Re: Sometimes, I have my doubts about God
we all do,its normal.
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"Sometimes, I have my doubts about God "

well, hold that thought. cultivate it. nurture it.
and one day, soon, you will be a true atheist.
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some people can't stand being alone.
so they hold on the some "God" or teddy bear or something.
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You have doubts about God? Really? It is so simple, even a child should believe. First off, God made man (out of dirt) and woman (out of man's rib.) And then, surprise, God found out he didn't like the people he created. God got disgusted with himself for creating sinful people so he decided to kill them all...all except for one family.

You might wonder why God killed all the little babies and children. Well, again, it is simple. God knows everything, from the beginning to the end. So he knew that the babies and children would grow up to be people he hated. In fact, read the account of Esau. God tells us, clearly, that he hated Esau in the womb. He hated Esau before he even sinned.

God only saves a couple of people, and those people are the sinless ones. Later, he killed his son, Jesus, who was perfect. And Jesus told US that we needed to be perfect, like God is perfect. We have to be perfect, or we will not make it into heaven. It is really simple. If you ask the holy spirit into your heart and develop a personal relationship with Jesus, you will be perfect. God can't be in the presence of sin so you must become perfect before you die.

God knows everyone before they are born. The Bible calls it predestination. So God knows who will go to heaven (only a few) and he knows who he will torture eternally (the many on the wide road.) You might think God is cruel but he is all about love. He loves the people he saves, even if there are only a couple of them. And because God made us, and because he knows everyone completely before they are born, this is all fair and just. Do you see how simple this all is?

If you have any questions, fire away. See, it really IS simple.
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You have doubts about God? Really? It is so simple, even a child should believe. First off, God made man (out of dirt) and woman (out of man's rib.) And then, surprise, God found out he didn't like the people he created. God got disgusted with himself for creating sinful people so he decided to kill them all...all except for one family.

You might wonder why God killed all the little babies and children. Well, again, it is simple. God knows everything, from the beginning to the end. So he knew that the babies and children would grow up to be people he hated. In fact, read the account of Esau. God tells us, clearly, that he hated Esau in the womb. He hated Esau before he even sinned.

God only saves a couple of people, and those people are the sinless ones. Later, he killed his son, Jesus, who was perfect. And Jesus told US that we needed to be perfect, like God is perfect. We have to be perfect, or we will not make it into heaven. It is really simple. If you ask the holy spirit into your heart and develop a personal relationship with Jesus, you will be perfect. God can't be in the presence of sin so you must become perfect before you die.

God knows everyone before they are born. The Bible calls it predestination. So God knows who will go to heaven (only a few) and he knows who he will torture eternally (the many on the wide road.) You might think God is cruel but he is all about love. He loves the people he saves, even if there are only a couple of them. And because God made us, and because he knows everyone completely before they are born, this is all fair and just. Do you see how simple this all is?

If you have any questions, fire away. See, it really IS simple.
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I got a question for ya....why doesn't your "god" heal amputees. I can't wait for your answer to this one (because I already know the answer).cool2
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You have doubts about God? Really? It is so simple, even a child should believe. First off, God made man (out of dirt) and woman (out of man's rib.) And then, surprise, God found out he didn't like the people he created. God got disgusted with himself for creating sinful people so he decided to kill them all...all except for one family.

You might wonder why God killed all the little babies and children. Well, again, it is simple. God knows everything, from the beginning to the end. So he knew that the babies and children would grow up to be people he hated. In fact, read the account of Esau. God tells us, clearly, that he hated Esau in the womb. He hated Esau before he even sinned.

God only saves a couple of people, and those people are the sinless ones. Later, he killed his son, Jesus, who was perfect. And Jesus told US that we needed to be perfect, like God is perfect. We have to be perfect, or we will not make it into heaven. It is really simple. If you ask the holy spirit into your heart and develop a personal relationship with Jesus, you will be perfect. God can't be in the presence of sin so you must become perfect before you die.

God knows everyone before they are born. The Bible calls it predestination. So God knows who will go to heaven (only a few) and he knows who he will torture eternally (the many on the wide road.) You might think God is cruel but he is all about love. He loves the people he saves, even if there are only a couple of them. And because God made us, and because he knows everyone completely before they are born, this is all fair and just. Do you see how simple this all is?

If you have any questions, fire away. See, it really IS simple.
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I got a question for ya....why doesn't your "god" heal amputees. I can't wait for your answer to this one (because I already know the answer).cool2
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Why do you think it's a sin or requiring adjustment?

You live in a world where marriage is treated as nothing more than a business partnership. The bible says that two become one flesh.

So you rip a psyche in half for the almighty dollar or whatever else, and you worry about a missing arm or leg sustained in enforcement of monetary interests?

Get back to me when you can afford miracles.
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I got a question for ya....why doesn't your "god" heal amputees. I can't wait for your answer to this one (because I already know the answer).cool2


Why do you think it's a sin or requiring adjustment?

You live in a world where marriage is treated as nothing more than a business partnership. The bible says that two become one flesh.

So you rip a psyche in half for the almighty dollar or whatever else, and you worry about a missing arm or leg sustained in enforcement of monetary interests?

Get back to me when you can afford miracles.


A.D.D. Elephant....a-gain. *sigh* Done doing laps in corn flakes already? All done with your great thinking and ready to bless the unwashed masses again. You're trolling my replies? What a sad person you are. I have bested you, now you're just being annoying. awhore You put stock in that blood-soaked book, too? Tsk-tsk-tsk. That blew all illusions I had that you had a modecum of intelligence. And "miracles" are just coincidences and timing and human exaggeration blended under the lie of religion. Please leave me alone.1doh1
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What part of these verses point to that conclusion? (after both bruises in Ge:3:15 are completed)

Isa:54:7:
For a small moment have I forsaken thee;
but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Isa:54:8:
In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment;
but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
Isa:54:9:
For this is as the waters of Noah unto me:
for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth;
so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee,
nor rebuke thee.
Isa:54:10:
For the mountains shall depart,
and the hills be removed;
but my kindness shall not depart from thee,
neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed,
saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
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I got a question for ya....why doesn't your "god" heal amputees. I can't wait for your answer to this one (because I already know the answer).cool2
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That would be glorified flesh and when the rest of the body gave up the breath of life the immortal flesh would remain alive. That is why God doesn't put the batteries back in until the terrain is suited for the whole body to be glorified in a big group type of event. If this life sucked at times because of sinners the having it that way for eternity would be a curse rather than a blessing.
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What part of these verses point to that conclusion? (after both bruises in Ge:3:15 are completed)

Isa:54:7:
For a small moment have I forsaken thee;
but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Isa:54:8:
In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment;
but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
Isa:54:9:
For this is as the waters of Noah unto me:
for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth;
so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee,
nor rebuke thee.
Isa:54:10:
For the mountains shall depart,
and the hills be removed;
but my kindness shall not depart from thee,
neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed,
saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
 Quoting: MHz


Yeah, yeah. except that "god" either won't or can't show an amputee mercy by healing his or her missing limb. Soothing, ancient poetry. Given false hope to millions and the last breath to even millions more. Why doesn't god heal amputees? Does he have a special plan for them? Is healing them beyond his power? Did they not bow and grovel hard enough? Basic reasoning is the acid of faith.pope
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What part of these verses point to that conclusion? (after both bruises in Ge:3:15 are completed)

Isa:54:7:
For a small moment have I forsaken thee;
but with great mercies will I gather thee.
Isa:54:8:
In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment;
but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
Isa:54:9:
For this is as the waters of Noah unto me:
for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth;
so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee,
nor rebuke thee.
Isa:54:10:
For the mountains shall depart,
and the hills be removed;
but my kindness shall not depart from thee,
neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed,
saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
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Yeah, yeah. except that "god" either won't or can't show an amputee mercy by healing his or her missing limb. Soothing, ancient poetry. Given false hope to millions and the last breath to even millions more. Why doesn't god heal amputees? Does he have a special plan for them? Is healing them beyond his power? Did they not bow and grovel hard enough? Basic reasoning is the acid of faith.pope
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Well he has faith in you, but do you?
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I got a question for ya....why doesn't your "god" heal amputees. I can't wait for your answer to this one (because I already know the answer).cool2
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That would be glorified flesh and when the rest of the body gave up the breath of life the immortal flesh would remain alive. That is why God doesn't put the batteries back in until the terrain is suited for the whole body to be glorified in a big group type of event. If this life sucked at times because of sinners the having it that way for eternity would be a curse rather than a blessing.
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Yes, but that book says anything (including healing miracles) that one prays for earnestly in Jesus' name shall be healed. Yet one example of contradictions in that blood-soaked book.
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Yeah, yeah. except that "god" either won't or can't show an amputee mercy by healing his or her missing limb. Soothing, ancient poetry. Given false hope to millions and the last breath to even millions more. Why doesn't god heal amputees? Does he have a special plan for them? Is healing them beyond his power? Did they not bow and grovel hard enough? Basic reasoning is the acid of faith.pope
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The answers you seek are in the book, why do you think He is keeping you from being able to find them on your own? At least He is a God that sticks to the plan once it is in place, you have to give Him points for that even if the plan is't up to your specs.

Isa:55:11:
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
it shall not return unto me void,
but it shall accomplish that which I please,
and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.

Isa:66:22:
For as the new heavens and the new earth,
which I will make,
shall remain before me,
saith the LORD,
so shall your seed and your name remain.
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Well he has faith in you, but do you?
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I have faith in me tho think for myself.
I have faith to ask hard questions.
I have faith that I am something more than a blind-faith follower scared I'll be sent to hell if I don't.
I have faith that there is something more to who and what we really are than what is rammed down my throat by organized religion.
I have faith that our true origins and destiny is even more wonderous than what can ever be described in mere, crude, inadequate words of a book.
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Yes, but that book says anything (including healing miracles) that one prays for earnestly in Jesus' name shall be healed. Yet one example of contradictions in that blood-soaked book.
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Like I said, not up to your specs.

Now give me the verse that says that comes from reading a book rather than when the book says formerly dead people will be walking around.


Re:20:4:
And I saw thrones,
and they sat upon them,
and judgment was given unto them:
and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,
and for the word of God,
and which had not worshipped the beast,
neither his image,
neither had received his mark upon their foreheads,
or in their hands;
and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Nor can you show me just what 'afflictions He had', no artist ever follows this verse do they?


Isa:53:2:
For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant,
and as a root out of a dry ground:
he hath no form nor comeliness;
and when we shall see him,
there is no beauty that we should desire him.
Isa:53:3:
He is despised and rejected of men;
a man of sorrows,
and acquainted with grief:
and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

Jer:31:8:
Behold,
I will bring them from the north country,
and gather them from the coasts of the earth,
and with them the blind and the lame,
the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together:
a great company shall return thither.
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Yeah, yeah. except that "god" either won't or can't show an amputee mercy by healing his or her missing limb. Soothing, ancient poetry. Given false hope to millions and the last breath to even millions more. Why doesn't god heal amputees? Does he have a special plan for them? Is healing them beyond his power? Did they not bow and grovel hard enough? Basic reasoning is the acid of faith.pope
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The answers you seek are in the book, why do you think He is keeping you from being able to find them on your own? At least He is a God that sticks to the plan once it is in place, you have to give Him points for that even if the plan is't up to your specs.

Isa:55:11:
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth:
it shall not return unto me void,
but it shall accomplish that which I please,
and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

Isa:42:9:
Behold,
the former things are come to pass,
and new things do I declare:
before they spring forth I tell you of them.

Isa:66:22:
For as the new heavens and the new earth,
which I will make,
shall remain before me,
saith the LORD,
so shall your seed and your name remain.
 Quoting: MHz


First of all, quoting scripture does nothing for me nor bolster your debate with me.
Second, that book would have me accept the notion that 6 billion people, 6 distinct races of that people, spread across 6 continants are the inbred offspring of two fleah and blood humans molded out of dirt.
Third, that book contradicts itself so much it gets boring pointing them out.
Fourth, that book has been responsible for millions upon millions of innocent deaths since it's beginnings.
Fifth, Noah's ark? Need I go on with that one?

I know you cannot help being under this yoke of yours. Just know that we who choose to believe there's another version are not wrong just because your book says we are.
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.... blind-faith ....
 Quoting: lasereyes

There is no disadvantage in waiting for proof before making your final decision. The book isn't a make or break kind of deal. If judgment comes at the 7th trump then there are 6 signs given that would qualify as 'proof'.

Joh:20:29:
Jesus saith unto him,
Thomas,
because thou hast seen me,
thou hast believed:
blessed are they that have not seen,
and yet have believed.

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