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When should I expect my insurance cards to arrive?
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Yeah, exactly who gets this insurance?
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I live comfortably and in what I consider luxurary off about $15,000 a year. (I should clarify that I have an average Joe Blow job and am not smooching off the government!!)

So I'm not going to shed a tear for those making $200,000 + getting taxed a little more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


If I lived with my parents and ate their food, I would agree with you.

You obviously don't have children either.

Point is, I work hard for my money, I don't want to give it to a corrupt gov who will waste it on Obama vacations.
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+1
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I live comfortably and in what I consider luxurary off about $15,000 a year. (I should clarify that I have an average Joe Blow job and am not smooching off the government!!)

So I'm not going to shed a tear for those making $200,000 + getting taxed a little more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


If I lived with my parents and ate their food, I would agree with you.

You obviously don't have children either.

Point is, I work hard for my money, I don't want to give it to a corrupt gov who will waste it on Obama vacations.
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


and they buy votes with it. for everyone who works for the government, to vote against big, expensive government is a vote against themselves so there are more and more government leeches and again less producers. even government workers who pay taxes are taking taxpayer money and paying some of it back to the government in a never ending cycle of dependence.

name one thing that the government produces on its own? (not you specifically, the question is rhetorical)
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God I love your posts Davvi!hf
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
 Quoting: We Who Watch


Probably neither:
Theyare no different than you. You look at what you earn and on that basis you buy. Whatever you buy needs to be maintained, and you know how costly the taxes, repairs, maintenance in general can be. As a result there is no money left over for anything else other than what you already involved in.

Along comes a new expense (unforeseen) and devastating, because it is unforeseen. If you are rich, this could mean letting your mistress or gigolo go altogether, or insulting him/her by lowering the status of living to which he/she has become. This of course effects your sexlife, could even make mistress/gigolo really really mad as a junk-yard dog, and low and behold tells your wife and kids what you have been doing.. The wife is also cut short on her allowance, and also the kids, and before he knows it he has an entire pack of mad dogs at his throat.

Then, of course, there is the plane, and hanger expense, and general upkeep.

The Yacht: terrible amount of costly upkeep there.

The house at the beach, not necessarily in this Country; what if the taxes go up there, and again the costly maintenance of it.

Same thing with the house in the mountains.

Then there is the Benz, Rolls, and assortment of sports and travel vehicles: expenses, insurances, maintenance and on and on.

So how would you like to have all this costly cost going on in your life, and then along comes government and raises your taxes on your investments, but not the poor peoples’ investments . . . because they have none, and what they did have in Social Security (bought and paid for with 15% (half visible half invisible) of every paycheck of their entire life) has all been stolen by the government?
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"I live comfortably and in what I consider luxurary off about $15,000 a year."
That's refreshing and good to hear. Doesn't rent and rising grocery costs make life difficult?
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That's cool are you an off gridder living in a converted shipping container?
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
 Quoting: We Who Watch


You should move to France you socialist dbag.
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
 Quoting: We Who Watch


Probably neither:
Theyare no different than you. You look at what you earn and on that basis you buy. Whatever you buy needs to be maintained, and you know how costly the taxes, repairs, maintenance in general can be. As a result there is no money left over for anything else other than what you already involved in.

Along comes a new expense (unforeseen) and devastating, because it is unforeseen. If you are rich, this could mean letting your mistress or gigolo go altogether, or insulting him/her by lowering the status of living to which he/she has become. This of course effects your sexlife, could even make mistress/gigolo really really mad as a junk-yard dog, and low and behold tells your wife and kids what you have been doing.. The wife is also cut short on her allowance, and also the kids, and before he knows it he has an entire pack of mad dogs at his throat.

Then, of course, there is the plane, and hanger expense, and general upkeep.

The Yacht: terrible amount of costly upkeep there.

The house at the beach, not necessarily in this Country; what if the taxes go up there, and again the costly maintenance of it.

Same thing with the house in the mountains.

Then there is the Benz, Rolls, and assortment of sports and travel vehicles: expenses, insurances, maintenance and on and on.

So how would you like to have all this costly cost going on in your life, and then along comes government and raises your taxes on your investments, but not the poor peoples’ investments . . . because they have none, and what they did have in Social Security (bought and paid for with 15% (half visible half invisible) of every paycheck of their entire life) has all been stolen by the government?
 Quoting: SwnSong 30915212


People like me lose their measly income because the products I sell are purchased by those "rich" folks...
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‎"The biggest hit comes from the roll-back of the Bush-era tax rates. Families making between $50,000 and $75,000 would see taxes jump roughly $2,400, according to one non-partisan study. "
AWESOME, because I have the ability to live off of $92.00 less per paycheck! That will fix my teeth, Fran's cavities, and other assorted goodies of necessity. OH and great a 2% increase in SS tax withholding! There goes another $61.00, add to that the $50.00 per pay being withheld each pay to cover the taxes we DID not pay on unemployment in 2010 and now owe (because if we took the tax out of unemployment we would not have had enough left to EAT!and keep the lights on) .....
and now for 2013 we are DOWN $203.00 per pay check! That is $5, 228. SO if I get a job (PLEASE LET Me GET A JOB), then the first 2.6 months of work, roughly, are for making UP the DIFFERENCE in taxes and paying back taxes for the year!

Nice, 2013 should be a blast! Maybe my teeth will fall out and I will get thin from lack of food, inability to chew without teeth and walking everywhere I go since I have no car and if I did could not afford the gas! Happy New Year! I don't even understand the 'alternative min tax thing with average increases of $3700. but it is supposed to affect a new 37 million people, and we all know I can't win the lottery but I will surely be one of the newly affected middle class AMT sufferers.

At this point it is so stupid, we do not have the money to PAY DOWN THE DEBT. IT IS MATHEMATICALLY NOT POSSIBLE. If we stopped paying EVERYTHING except the government workers needed to operate the government and SS and Medicare, we would NOT break even; we would still be in the hole. SO who cares. SIGN a deal, yet another stupid deal, and spend some money we have not printed yet, beg China for more loans we will never pay back, tell the Fed to shove the interest on money we printed and gave to them to lend to us to charge us interest on to take a hike and FIX MY PAYCHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ah

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Congress approved US President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care bill nearly three years ago, but only in the coming weeks will Americans finally start to see the real price of the program.

A whole new slew of taxes are expected to be imposed starting January 1 to help pay for the health care plan, and that isn’t sitting pretty with some high-income households, or even the medical industry.

There will be a few new changes in 2013 as far as taxes go, but the one that might affect the most people is one that targets income investments. Individuals making more than $200,000 annually (and married couples making over $250k combined) will be subjected to a 3.8 percent levy on investment income, a maneuver that it expected to earn Uncle Sam an extra $123 billion between the first of the year and 2019.
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When should I expect my insurance cards to arrive?
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cruise

Umm...that would be AFTER you go out and pay for it.

That law just makes insurance MANDITORY so if you do NOT buy insurance you are in violation of the law.
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
 Quoting: We Who Watch


I live comfortably and in what I consider luxurary off about $15,000 a year. (I should clarify that I have an average Joe Blow job and am not smooching off the government!!)

So I'm not going to shed a tear for those making $200,000 + getting taxed a little more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


real nice mentality you guys got there.

trickle down poverty. that's what you want.
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I live comfortably and in what I consider luxurary off about $15,000 a year. (I should clarify that I have an average Joe Blow job and am not smooching off the government!!)

So I'm not going to shed a tear for those making $200,000 + getting taxed a little more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


If I lived with my parents and ate their food, I would agree with you.

You obviously don't have children either.

Point is, I work hard for my money, I don't want to give it to a corrupt gov who will waste it on Obama vacations.
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


and they buy votes with it. for everyone who works for the government, to vote against big, expensive government is a vote against themselves so there are more and more government leeches and again less producers. even government workers who pay taxes are taking taxpayer money and paying some of it back to the government in a never ending cycle of dependence.

name one thing that the government produces on its own? (not you specifically, the question is rhetorical)
 Quoting: davvi

God I love your posts Davvi!hf
 Quoting: littlemiracles


cheers my friend.

also could someone tell me why you need to pay a fee for a driver's license? and why do we need a huge bureaucracy to collect that fee? same with:

marriage license?
building permit?
hotel taxes?
fuel taxes? (just how does the gov justify taxing something they don't produce?)
cigarette taxes?
parking fees?
sales tax?
"sin" taxes?
fishing license?
dog license?

we can't do any of the above ^ without the government charging us to do it? and still democrap morons think the gov isn't getting enough money? and still democrap voters vote for the bloated gov to take more???

when was the last time anyone really looked at your pay stub? why are you not furious at the chunk of change the government steals from you every pay period? You've got your social security tax, your medicare tax, your unemployment tax, your workers compensation...and still you idiots vote for obama to take more?

i wouldn't care but you also vote for him to take more from me and that seriously pisses me off!
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If I lived with my parents and ate their food, I would agree with you.

You obviously don't have children either.

Point is, I work hard for my money, I don't want to give it to a corrupt gov who will waste it on Obama vacations.
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


and they buy votes with it. for everyone who works for the government, to vote against big, expensive government is a vote against themselves so there are more and more government leeches and again less producers. even government workers who pay taxes are taking taxpayer money and paying some of it back to the government in a never ending cycle of dependence.

name one thing that the government produces on its own? (not you specifically, the question is rhetorical)
 Quoting: davvi

God I love your posts Davvi!hf
 Quoting: littlemiracles


cheers my friend.

also could someone tell me why you need to pay a fee for a driver's license? and why do we need a huge bureaucracy to collect that fee? same with:

marriage license?
building permit?
hotel taxes?
fuel taxes? (just how does the gov justify taxing something they don't produce?)
cigarette taxes?
parking fees?
sales tax?
"sin" taxes?
fishing license?
dog license?

we can't do any of the above ^ without the government charging us to do it? and still democrap morons think the gov isn't getting enough money? and still democrap voters vote for the bloated gov to take more???

when was the last time anyone really looked at your pay stub? why are you not furious at the chunk of change the government steals from you every pay period? You've got your social security tax, your medicare tax, your unemployment tax, your workers compensation...and still you idiots vote for obama to take more?

i wouldn't care but you also vote for him to take more from me and that seriously pisses me off!
 Quoting: davvi


The fee for the drivers license is only there for one purpose...
It IS to pay for the huge bureaucracy of collecting the fees!! Lol!
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I live comfortably and in what I consider luxurary off about $15,000 a year. (I should clarify that I have an average Joe Blow job and am not smooching off the government!!)

So I'm not going to shed a tear for those making $200,000 + getting taxed a little more.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7736082


If I lived with my parents and ate their food, I would agree with you.

You obviously don't have children either.

Point is, I work hard for my money, I don't want to give it to a corrupt gov who will waste it on Obama vacations.
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan


and they buy votes with it. for everyone who works for the government, to vote against big, expensive government is a vote against themselves so there are more and more government leeches and again less producers. even government workers who pay taxes are taking taxpayer money and paying some of it back to the government in a never ending cycle of dependence.

name one thing that the government produces on its own? (not you specifically, the question is rhetorical)
 Quoting: davvi


opium industry:
you will have to Google this because godlike has banned all the links i have on this:
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Congress approved US President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care bill nearly three years ago, but only in the coming weeks will Americans finally start to see the real price of the program.

A whole new slew of taxes are expected to be imposed starting January 1 to help pay for the health care plan, and that isn’t sitting pretty with some high-income households, or even the medical industry.

There will be a few new changes in 2013 as far as taxes go, but the one that might affect the most people is one that targets income investments. Individuals making more than $200,000 annually (and married couples making over $250k combined) will be subjected to a 3.8 percent levy on investment income, a maneuver that it expected to earn Uncle Sam an extra $123 billion between the first of the year and 2019.
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Congress approved US President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care bill nearly three years ago, but only in the coming weeks will Americans finally start to see the real price of the program.

A whole new slew of taxes are expected to be imposed starting January 1 to help pay for the health care plan, and that isn’t sitting pretty with some high-income households, or even the medical industry.

There will be a few new changes in 2013 as far as taxes go, but the one that might affect the most people is one that targets income investments. Individuals making more than $200,000 annually (and married couples making over $250k combined) will be subjected to a 3.8 percent levy on investment income, a maneuver that it expected to earn Uncle Sam an extra $123 billion between the first of the year and 2019.
 Quoting: strikeforce


oblameo and the dems in congress were sure to plan it so that the "pain" wouldn't come until after the election. americans are soooooooooooo stupid that they can't think beyond today so they voted like good little sheeple.

actually most americans don't care who pays what in taxes because far too many of them DON'T pay ANY taxes. we who do are so far outnumbered that our voices don't count.

we get to pay the bills and have no say. taxation without representation, revolutions have been fought for that reason.
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How many times do people need to say "no one pays taxes" or "half of Americans don't pay taxes"

You pay more in taxes on shot you buy. And there is no way your stars are right
Times are changing!
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Congress approved US President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care bill nearly three years ago, but only in the coming weeks will Americans finally start to see the real price of the program.

A whole new slew of taxes are expected to be imposed starting January 1 to help pay for the health care plan, and that isn’t sitting pretty with some high-income households, or even the medical industry.

There will be a few new changes in 2013 as far as taxes go, but the one that might affect the most people is one that targets income investments. Individuals making more than $200,000 annually (and married couples making over $250k combined) will be subjected to a 3.8 percent levy on investment income, a maneuver that it expected to earn Uncle Sam an extra $123 billion between the first of the year and 2019.
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Well then I guess I'l have to limit my income to $199,999.99...
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Congress approved US President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care bill nearly three years ago, but only in the coming weeks will Americans finally start to see the real price of the program.

A whole new slew of taxes are expected to be imposed starting January 1 to help pay for the health care plan, and that isn’t sitting pretty with some high-income households, or even the medical industry.

There will be a few new changes in 2013 as far as taxes go, but the one that might affect the most people is one that targets income investments. Individuals making more than $200,000 annually (and married couples making over $250k combined) will be subjected to a 3.8 percent levy on investment income, a maneuver that it expected to earn Uncle Sam an extra $123 billion between the first of the year and 2019.
 Quoting: strikeforce


oblameo and the dems in congress were sure to plan it so that the "pain" wouldn't come until after the election. americans are soooooooooooo stupid that they can't think beyond today so they voted like good little sheeple.

actually most americans don't care who pays what in taxes because far too many of them DON'T pay ANY taxes. we who do are so far outnumbered that our voices don't count.

we get to pay the bills and have no say. taxation without representation, revolutions have been fought for that reason.
 Quoting: davvi


How many times do people need to say "no one pays taxes" or "half of Americans don't pay taxes"

You pay more in taxes on shot you buy. And there is no way your stars are right
 Quoting: FASNYC


Most of the taxes on the stuff you buy is state, not Federal.
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and they buy votes with it. for everyone who works for the government, to vote against big, expensive government is a vote against themselves so there are more and more government leeches and again less producers. even government workers who pay taxes are taking taxpayer money and paying some of it back to the government in a never ending cycle of dependence.

name one thing that the government produces on its own? (not you specifically, the question is rhetorical)
 Quoting: davvi

God I love your posts Davvi!hf
 Quoting: littlemiracles


cheers my friend.

also could someone tell me why you need to pay a fee for a driver's license? and why do we need a huge bureaucracy to collect that fee? same with:

marriage license?
building permit?
hotel taxes?
fuel taxes? (just how does the gov justify taxing something they don't produce?)
cigarette taxes?
parking fees?
sales tax?
"sin" taxes?
fishing license?
dog license?

we can't do any of the above ^ without the government charging us to do it? and still democrap morons think the gov isn't getting enough money? and still democrap voters vote for the bloated gov to take more???

when was the last time anyone really looked at your pay stub? why are you not furious at the chunk of change the government steals from you every pay period? You've got your social security tax, your medicare tax, your unemployment tax, your workers compensation...and still you idiots vote for obama to take more?

i wouldn't care but you also vote for him to take more from me and that seriously pisses me off!
 Quoting: davvi


The fee for the drivers license is only there for one purpose...
It IS to pay for the huge bureaucracy of collecting the fees!! Lol!
 Quoting: littlemiracles


lol, e-x-a-c-t-l-y! and do you think that the people who work for motor vehicle will ever vote to abolish the bureau? never, and as we see those who create these agencies do so with the idea and method to keep them with us forever.

then to add insult to injury they UNIONIZE them against the very people who pay their salaries...US. the whole thing is incestuous and perpetual.
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
 Quoting: We Who Watch


Probably neither:
Theyare no different than you. You look at what you earn and on that basis you buy. Whatever you buy needs to be maintained, and you know how costly the taxes, repairs, maintenance in general can be. As a result there is no money left over for anything else other than what you already involved in.

Along comes a new expense (unforeseen) and devastating, because it is unforeseen. If you are rich, this could mean letting your mistress or gigolo go altogether, or insulting him/her by lowering the status of living to which he/she has become. This of course effects your sexlife, could even make mistress/gigolo really really mad as a junk-yard dog, and low and behold tells your wife and kids what you have been doing.. The wife is also cut short on her allowance, and also the kids, and before he knows it he has an entire pack of mad dogs at his throat.

Then, of course, there is the plane, and hanger expense, and general upkeep.

The Yacht: terrible amount of costly upkeep there.

The house at the beach, not necessarily in this Country; what if the taxes go up there, and again the costly maintenance of it.

Same thing with the house in the mountains.

Then there is the Benz, Rolls, and assortment of sports and travel vehicles: expenses, insurances, maintenance and on and on.

So how would you like to have all this costly cost going on in your life, and then along comes government and raises your taxes on your investments, but not the poor peoples’ investments . . . because they have none, and what they did have in Social Security (bought and paid for with 15% (half visible half invisible) of every paycheck of their entire life) has all been stolen by the government?
 Quoting: SwnSong 30915212


People like me lose their measly income because the products I sell are purchased by those "rich" folks...
 Quoting: littlemiracles


yeah, right !
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Congress approved US President Barack Obama’s hallmark health care bill nearly three years ago, but only in the coming weeks will Americans finally start to see the real price of the program.

A whole new slew of taxes are expected to be imposed starting January 1 to help pay for the health care plan, and that isn’t sitting pretty with some high-income households, or even the medical industry.

There will be a few new changes in 2013 as far as taxes go, but the one that might affect the most people is one that targets income investments. Individuals making more than $200,000 annually (and married couples making over $250k combined) will be subjected to a 3.8 percent levy on investment income, a maneuver that it expected to earn Uncle Sam an extra $123 billion between the first of the year and 2019.
 Quoting: strikeforce


oblameo and the dems in congress were sure to plan it so that the "pain" wouldn't come until after the election. americans are soooooooooooo stupid that they can't think beyond today so they voted like good little sheeple.

actually most americans don't care who pays what in taxes because far too many of them DON'T pay ANY taxes. we who do are so far outnumbered that our voices don't count.

we get to pay the bills and have no say. taxation without representation, revolutions have been fought for that reason.
 Quoting: davvi


How many times do people need to say "no one pays taxes" or "half of Americans don't pay taxes"

You pay more in taxes on shot you buy. And there is no way your stars are right
 Quoting: FASNYC


Most of the taxes on the stuff you buy is state, not Federal.
 Quoting: OutdoorsMan



sorry, but it all goes to the same cause and that is some crappy politician extending his power paid for by us.
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1/2 of America isn't claiming / paying taxes now. What makes you think they will after the hike?

See, when you still have your guns you can tell tyrants to fuck off.

Its a game of outlasting. They are playing with a 'fiscal cliff' which means they are out of tricks. Once the dollar is gone, so are they. The people on the other hand, will PROSPER. They need us, we dont need them. Their 'plan' called for us all to be in the streets begging for food stamps in exchange for our arms by now.

LOL and fail. Americans get stronger and wiser every day.
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I so hope that your right brother, I so hope your right!!!!!!

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My biggest concern is their change of mortgage interest deductions. cry
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12/27/2012 11:34 AM
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there is no way they can finance this train wreck off of the rich only. the middle class will foot the bill. Besides, zero hates the white middle class.
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12/27/2012 11:42 AM
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
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12/27/2012 11:47 AM
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
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You should move to France you socialist dbag.
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You need to pay taxes to contribute to society. You're the problem. dbag.
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12/27/2012 11:50 AM

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I live comfortably and in what I consider luxurary off about $15,000 a year. (I should clarify that I have an average Joe Blow job and am not smooching off the government!!)

So I'm not going to shed a tear for those making $200,000 + getting taxed a little more.
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If I lived with my parents and ate their food, I would agree with you.

You obviously don't have children either.

Point is, I work hard for my money, I don't want to give it to a corrupt gov who will waste it on Obama vacations.
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and they buy votes with it. for everyone who works for the government, to vote against big, expensive government is a vote against themselves so there are more and more government leeches and again less producers. even government workers who pay taxes are taking taxpayer money and paying some of it back to the government in a never ending cycle of dependence.

name one thing that the government produces on its own? (not you specifically, the question is rhetorical)
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opium industry:
you will have to Google this because godlike has banned all the links i have on this:
"Fighting And Dying In Afghanistan For Opium”:
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they don't fight to win because someone is making a lot of money supplying the military, so it is in their best interest that "war" never ends. does anyone of us want "war" in afghanistan, iraq, africa, the middle east? we have the means to destroy any country who touches us and yet we fight these ground wars which never end/ why are we willing to sacrifice our military to make money for others?

war should be quick and most of all war should decisive. the loser should be left to rebuild on their own, the punishment should be so clear...

what we have now is lunatics striking us and in return their people get a new hospital or school or foreign aid. how is this war by any definition? it isn't, it is "redistribution of american tax payer dollars to big campaign donors in this country who supply the means to wage war. it's a scam and we are losing american lives to make the politician wealthy.
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Life must be good in the UK if OP is worried about Americans making 200,000 dollars a year being taxed a little more. Let me see.... 200,000 is about 16,500 a month or 4,000 a week or 800 per working day.

Yep! I can see how it must be hard to survive on that!

Absolute Greed vs Absolute Need.

I wonder which is UK helping?
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You should move to France you socialist dbag.
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You need to pay taxes to contribute to society. You're the problem. dbag.
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idiot, how does paying taxes to pay for parasites contribute to society? how does paying for foreign wars contribute to society? how does keeping a "ruling class" in this country fat and happy contribute to society?
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You think this is bad?

You ain't seen nothing yet.

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there is no way they can finance this train wreck off of the rich only. the middle class will foot the bill. Besides, zero hates the white middle class.
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Taxes (Federal) for the middle class are the lowest in years.

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