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Harry Reid: `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

 
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Let the "cliff" happen. More taxes and less spending is the only sensible thing to do.
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I agree. I'm so sick and tired of hearing about the fiscal cliff. Let it happen and we will be forced to fix the problems. All they are doing is putting off the inevitable and the inevitable may not be as horrible as the politicians are making it out to be...both sides, no one is innocent here. The citizens that have a half of a brain in their heads will adapt, those that don't will flush out the gene pool a bit.
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Funny thing too.

These same corrupt politicians who are warning of going over the "cliff"...are the ones who CREATED the cliff in the first place. grnrolleyes


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Dirty Harry is so funny in this video. Fiscal illusion.


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REID SAYS `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

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The MSM hoax claims the US dollar & economy didnt go over the cliff long ago - past the point of no recovery. The debt is too large. It will never be paid off. Hyper-inflation is coming.
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Harry Reid: `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF
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Meanwhile.....they keep SPENDING.
(and they want MORE taxes???) fuckoff2



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Instead of repeating "fiscal cliff" over and over, why don't they talk about the points of contention? What are they arguing over?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30708042


Wall Street Journal online has a little interactive game where you can do the voting for them. You get to click a box for each of the proposals you like, and a line chart at the top tells whether you have balanced the budget.

You get choices like "decrease benefit payments" and "increase taxes on..." but military spending cuts are not in the list of options.
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REID SAYS `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

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 Quoting: Dixie Normous


what does it mean to go over fiscal cliff
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REID SAYS `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

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what does it mean to go over fiscal cliff
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Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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REID SAYS `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

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what does it mean to go over fiscal cliff
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The Bush tax cuts expire, a bunch of spending cuts go into effect, and Obama's health care taxes go into effect. supposedly all these higher taxes and spending cuts are supposed to throw us back into the recession
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Why does the left believe raising the taxes on the rich will 'fix' the economy? It baffles me..
My little sister can manage wealth better than these clowns in washington
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I do have to agree with you in a sense. If the government can't responsibly handle the money that has already been entrusted to them, the answer is NOT to give them even more money to waste.

As far as the laws go though, we most likely wouldn't have found ourselves in a situation where most people are struggling while a very few have so much money they couldn't possibly spend it in a lifetime if the laws all along had been geared to preventing something like that from happening in the first place.

We've had minimum wage laws for years. Perhaps it's time to implement MAXIMUM wage laws as well.

Check out this chart

[link to www.forbes.com]

Explain to me how these people can POSSIBLY spend the MILLIONS they earn each year. IF the businesses didn't have to spend all of this money on exorbitant wages to just their top executives, think of all of the extra money they would have available to lower the cost of the goods and services they offer and/or increase the pay of other lower paid employees and/or expand their businesses to put even more unemployed people to work.

The system is definitely broke! Not sure how they plan on fixing it, but something definitely needs to be done.
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they'll take everything to the brink again and agree last minute again - so slave keep slaving.
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REID SAYS `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

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 Quoting: Dixie Normous


what does it mean to go over fiscal cliff
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The Bush tax cuts expire, a bunch of spending cuts go into effect, and Obama's health care taxes go into effect. supposedly all these higher taxes and spending cuts are supposed to throw us back into the recession
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it means the money you spend on food now will go directly to the government
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Everyone's Talking About How The Fiscal Cliff Is Crushing The Consumer

[link to www.businessinsider.com]
 Quoting: Dixie Normous

Talking about it isn't killing the consumer , raising the limit every time it comes around is.

We will be working for Zimbabwe money if they keep raising the limit.
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they'll take everything to the brink again and agree last minute again - so slave keep slaving.
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I agree recession and depressing is the natural fix for a criminal leaching government and economy.
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People who earn great fortunes by honest labour and creation of products don't deserve to be taxed at a higher rate than the lowest assembly line worker.

Those that gain great fortune by swindle or corruption deserve no wealth at all.

THAT is the problem with our society.
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What people dont understand is Obama is a Muslim (Like it or Not its True) he is here to bring down America.. America can not lose a war (unless its against China) but our Economy can fall.. Well because of spending and our debt we are on a cliff, We are about to Fall over it and LOOK OUT..$100 to $150 less in a pay is not Good.. We will be fighting each other when times REALLY get bad.
The EU is soon to fall and America also...
Part of the Plan for a One world government.
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I bet there will be an "11th hour" compromise.

All these fuckers care about is their own image anyway.
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People who earn great fortunes by honest labour and creation of products don't deserve to be taxed at a higher rate than the lowest assembly line worker.

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Bullshit. Anyone who claims he has earned a "great fortune" by honest labour, surely is NOT honest.
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Justice Roberts is looking at Obama eligibility today.

[link to www.orlytaitzesq.com]

The cliff looms large.
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Yeah like that is going to help this country out. Some people are so frigging anal.Parrot heads.
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REID SAYS `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

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 Quoting: Dixie Normous


You mean he is throwing his toys out of his pram because things arnt going his party's way. Big business will force them to act.
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What people dont understand is Obama is a Muslim (Like it or Not its True) he is here to bring down America.. America can not lose a war (unless its against China) but our Economy can fall.. Well because of spending and our debt we are on a cliff, We are about to Fall over it and LOOK OUT..$100 to $150 less in a pay is not Good.. We will be fighting each other when times REALLY get bad.
The EU is soon to fall and America also...
Part of the Plan for a One world government.
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Oh you poor brainwashed doomtard.
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It is surprising to me that many people do not see the subterfuge going on in the Democratic Party, they feel if they keep repeating something over and over again people will start to believe it.

Well..it seems to have worked, which is in itself surprising to me since i always felt the American people had more sense, i was sadly mistaken.

One of the main problems with the Senate at the moment is Harry Reid.
This party loving old geezer is taking our country hostage by only passing what he deems necessary and shelving all the rest of the ideas mainly because most of the ideas being submitted were made by Republicans, his arch enemies it seems.

To watch the man when he comes to the floor to speak in the Senate, is just appalling. Most often the first sentence will always have to do with how he just can't understand the Republicans and how they are just ruining our country or something to that degree.
Then he starts the finger pointing and repeating all the old lies about the other side while always managing to leave out how their party has been sitting on their laurels for the past six years or so and do absolutely nothing for our country, they cannot even pass a budget..or do not even care to.

To this man it all comes down to party, he is fighting a war of words and wits aimed directly at the Republican Party not caring a bit about what is actually going on with our country it all comes down to hate for the other party for him. He is literally holding the Senate hostage for his own selfish hatreds..bills are not being passed..business as usual is not being taken care of because of one person and that is Harry Reid himself. If the man wants to do something great for this country he should resign immediately and let someone who can do the job without partisan or personal leanings take the office that he was given.

The political repercussions of his inability to lead are becoming quite apparent. Instead of doing his job and passing or failing bills that our nation needs to keep moving he would rather sit back and blame the other party about everything under the sun ..make it look like everything since the dawn of time has been the Republicans fault and let the media think that the reason we may go over the "Fiscal Cliff" is all the other parties fault, when in reality it is nobodies fault except the majority leaders in the Senate..Mr. Harry Reid..an outdated dinosaur with a bad disposition.

Reid claims that the Republicans will not work with them ..that is a lie..he refuses every suggestion..every offer..every bill passed by them...and then openly mocks them by laughing in their faces..he wants us to go over the cliff...it makes their job easier ..to turn America into a third world country ..

Its all just a big game to them..they are all puppets ..some with more power than others..their goal is the redistribution of all of America's wealth to the rest of the world..at all costs..and their puppet master is George Soros..you don't believe me? Obama was handpicked to be President many many years ago because of his skin color and oratory skills...divide and conquer..the new world order brought to you by the United Nations via George Soros is at your service..

All hail to the Great Destroyer! and God Help us.
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Our government and the powers that be planned for America to fly off the fiscal cliff.
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Should be interesting! They expect us to 'go over' the fiscal cliff as in 'fall.' Since the eagle is our national symbol and it DOES NOT fall, but fly, hopefully things won't be near as bad as people are predicting.
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you need to look a little closer...the eagle is NOT our national symbol, it is the phoenix. Take out a dollar bill and look at the back of the top of the head. See that little cowlick on it? That's a phoenix.

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This is one of the more intelligent responses I've read, although it does wander off into kook territory toward the end. It was on page two of this debate...

By Design...by both parties of our government.

It's all pre-planned and has been since the 90's. If you want to know what's coming, read this. This "Intelligence Insider" has been right on in predicting our "future" since I've been following him. He was right on with his predictions on Benghazi. Very scary what he says is coming. Everyone should read this.

A sampling of this article:

DH: Thereís a lot here. Letís take it step by step if you donít mind.

RB: Okay, but Iím not going to give it to you in baby steps. Big boy steps. This is what I am hearing. Life for the average American is going to change significantly, and not the change people expect. First, DHS is preparing to work with police departments and the TSA to respond to civil uprisings that will happen when there is a financial panic. And there will be one, maybe as early as this spring, when the dollar wonít get you a gumball. Iím not sure what the catalyst will be, but Iíve heard rumblings about a derivatives crisis as well as an oil embargo. I donít know, thatís not my department. But something is going to happen to collapse the dollar, which has been in the works since the 1990s.
Now if it does not happen as soon as this, itís because there are people, real patriots, who are working to prevent this, so itís a fluid dynamic. But that doesnít change the preparations.

And the preparations are these: DHS is prepositioning assets in strategic areas near urban centers all across the country. Storage depots. Armories. And even detainment facilities, known as FEMA camps. FEMA does not even know that the facilities are earmarked for detainment by executive orders, at least not in the traditional sense they were intended. By the way, people drive by some of these armories every day without even giving them a second look. Commercial and business real estate across the country are being bought up or leased for storage purposes. Very low profile.

Anyway, I am hearing that the plan from on high is to let the chaos play out for a while, making ordinary citizens beg for troops to be deployed to restore order. but itís all organized to make them appear as good guys. Thatís when the real head knocking will take place. Weíre talking travel restrictions, which should not be a problem because gas will be rationed or unavailable. The TSA will be in charge of travel, or at least be a big part of it. They will be commissioned, upgraded from their current status.

They, I mean Jarrett and Obama as well as a few others in government, are working to create a perfect storm too. This is being timed to coincide with new gun laws.

DH: New federal gun laws?

RB: Yes. Count on the criminalization to possess just about every gun you can think of. Not only restrictions, but actual criminalization of possessing a banned firearm. I heard this directly from the highest of my sources. Plans were made in the Ď90s but were withheld. Now, itís a new day, a new time, and they are riding the wave of emotion from Sandy Hook, which, by the way as tragic as it was, well, it stinks to high heaven. I mean there are many things wrong there, and first reports are fast disappearing. The narrative is being changed. Look, there is something wrong with Sandy Hook, but if you write it, youíll be called a kook or worse.

DH: Sure

RB: But Sandy Hook, thereís something very wrong there. But I am hearing that wonít be the final straw. There will be another if they think itís necessary.
DH: Another shooting?

RB: Yes.

DH: That would mean they are at least complicit.

RB: Well, thatís one way of looking at it.

DH: Are they? Were they?

RB: Do your own research. Nothing I say, short of bringing you photographs and documents will convince anyone, and even then, itís like [DELETED] in the wind.


[link to www.canadafreepress.com]
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I say line up all the members of Congress along the edge of the cliff and have a big PUSH for freedom!
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This is the real DOOM you should worry about.
not the mayan BS, that's just a distraction.
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REID SAYS `IT LOOKS LIKE' U.S. WILL GO OVER FISCAL CLIFF

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People who earn great fortunes by honest labour and creation of products don't deserve to be taxed at a higher rate than the lowest assembly line worker.

 Quoting: Paradox0910


Bullshit. Anyone who claims he has earned a "great fortune" by honest labour, surely is NOT honest.
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that's right...no one ever got rich making $4 an hour.
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Now, for my opinion.

A) If America cannot, or refuses to repay its debt, say goodbye to your dollar value. You cannot simply print more money because it will all be next to worthless. Nobody will want to trade with the American dollar.

B) With a shitty dollar, investment becomes impossible. Businesses will fail and every debt within America will be called in. This will create a cascade of bankruptcy. That inability of anyone being able to pay their debt will cause an economic collapse.

C) Everything will be expensive. And no-one will want to provide goods and services to a country where the dollar is worthless. Think; Backward African, Asian countries. Tour leaders are on the brink of a Third World America.

D) America will need more money to avoid these issues. It will probably want to borrow its way out of trouble. To do this it will need to raise taxes on everything it can. EVERYTHING. Services will have to be cut and public servants trimmed off by the bushel. Kiss goodbye to the military spending of the past. It too will have to be cut back.

This overview is very simple look for those who need some insight into how bad things could get if America refuses to tax up in order to be granted more money. Your great country needs a handout. In effect, your government is currently running on food stamps.

Get ready for some interesting times.

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